Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism

[TheRapala]

truth = understanding

[evanbrockwalter]

Thumbs up if you heard about this author/book from Ron Paul

[MegaMegra]

7:30 perfectly phrased

[justcause7]

I agreed with everything he said until he started talking about oil...

[atraldreams]

@justcause7

/watch?v=Z_HvZHdcXQk

[TheNomadTraveler]

He said all suicide terrorists, 100%, are deep anger over occupation by military combat forces, trying to get them removed from their homeland or a sacred ground. That does not seem to describe the Mumbai attack.

[jam31688]

@TheNomadTraveler that was not a campaign

[guruapa]

@TheNomadTraveler yes it does. Its because of Indias occupation of Kashmir

[atraldreams]

@TheNomadTraveler

in his book he says a small portion of the suicide terrorist attacks are based on religion.

[ShiftNMove]

@atraldreams In his book he clearly makes the distinction between such suicide terrorist attacks as "religious difference" and not based solely on "religion"

[atraldreams]

@ShiftNMove

Yes. He also uses the term "Islamic Fundamentalism"

But you must admit, "religious difference" and "religion" are the same...at least the way I see it

[atraldreams]

@atraldreams

Wait, I haven't read dying to win. I've only read Cutting the Fuse

[Muslim1stLady]

MR. ROBERT .. I BELIEVE THAT "OCCUPATION" IS THE MAIN REASON , THANK YOU FOR SAYING THE TRUTH, TRULY APPRECIATED.

[MAZDAKPRODUCTION]

Sacrificing ones life to save others (Martyrdom) is at nature of Christianity. Jesus gave his blood for all: John 10:15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. Jesus GAVE His life and purposely chose not to call for divine deliverance, angelic help and spiritual reinforcements (Matthew 26:52-56)

[William00048]

Nobody else has studied this? That's astonishing. It also isn't true. Sam HARRIS, had already been studying religion pre 9/11 then wrote his book which very much found why Islam would lend itself 2 Suicide Bombing. A very informative talk on this is Andy Thomson on Suicide Bombing. He doesn't draw the same conclusions. Just keep out of Muslim lands. Then Muslims lands expand & we have to keep out of them. Where were the Islamic forces going to help Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq & Afghanistan?

[1freesoul2another]

@William00048 Good philosophy lets get them before they get us. Thats ridiculous.

[selfrealizedexile]

Energy independence is a secondary, non-ideal path; what we need to do is simply gtfo of the Middle East, stop financially supporting dictators, and stop financially and militarily supporting Israel. You can remain on oil until the eventual, natural free market shift to nuclear energy if you begin exercising the above policy; there's nothing inherently evil or special about high octane energy; we created this connection of oil and terrorism by our own meddling.

[selfrealizedexile]

12:15 is implausible given dictators' infamous reputation for disinformation, especially if you use Pape's thesis and Saddam's repression of the Kurds.

Don't get me wrong; I'm against foreign occupations, but his statement at that point was remarkably naive.

[1888junkteam]

excellent work!

[silverboy2001]

really educational.

[liberalnut]

I don't care about believers or non believers, I would willingly strap bombs to my waist and go and take out as many zionists as I could, its humanity not religion which is the way forward

[aceflashheart]

First suicide attackers: people's front of judea? :)

[bhaskie]

The Tamil Tigers are and have never been "Marxist". This is pretty commonsense...

[Webins]

3 points:

1-much of what he says is obvious and anyone even without all the studying could have known the same thing. This's another case of a university professor spending years doing research to tell us what two minutes of rational thinking could have known.

2-he's failed to really answer how "off-shore imperialism" is any better than "on-land imperialism"?

3-"getting of oil" won't stop American intervetion. There is still Israel, as well as good old fashion desires to dominate.

[Hajjat]

i like your comments. I don't agree with your first point though. It's true that rational thinking could have known all this, but the US citizens for example are completely oblivious to these facts. They know nothing about what's going outside the US, many are completely brain-washed to believe that Islam is a real threat, and all muslims are extremists and terrorists.

[Webins]

You have a point, but an additional five minutes on the internet or looking carefully at some other news sources (preferably non-mainstream) would be enough.

Even Bin Laden made his gripes clear in all his messages.

[sshender]

So Flawed!~

To his credit he is right about one thing - that poverty and despair have nothing to do with it (I guess that was just a TOO obvious of a fact for him to deny).

[Webins]

Why flawed?

[Dream23fb]

This video should be required viewing for all Americans.

[wilie123]

actually what we have today in our world is the struggle of one puis tribe against another one christians against muslims against jews against christians and so on not to forget hindus against muslims

so what we have is the balkanisation of our world in different rilgious beliefs who are not compatible with one another

so either this madness will end in the atomic war or we must grow out of these madness

we have the choice

[chambernater]

see this is why you have to take everything the media and our leaders say with a grain of salt. the only reason people hate muslims is because of what there told and they believe it without missing a beat. START THINKING FOR YOURSELVES MAYBE READ A BOOK INSTEAD OF WATCHING TV DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOUR TOLD!

[kandikhan]

i am absoutly agreed with his thoughts. this the only reason sucide bombers kills himself becouse in islam there is no such thing to kill himself, islam has always denounce such acts. In Islam the killing of one human is like killing of entire humanity.

Jihad means strugle "to uphold the right (Haq)", anyone who fight against evil is "Mujahid" like a teacher who works to education (Haq) masses is fight against Illiteracy (Bathil), so he is doing Jihad. the same for good docters, lawyers etc.

[UcanbeGOD]

I agree with Pape aswell BUT to say that the Koran doesn't have verses in it that support killing infidels is false. The Bible also has verses that support many horrible things including killing infidels. But you won't hear about that because its a thing that is swept under the rug.

[Omer698]

understand the contexts of those verses, the quran doesn't permit blind murder

[UcanbeGOD]

I am all ears as to the context of those verses.

[qarohc]

4:92 It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood- money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave.

Justification for murder, slavery and and an explanation of how the life of a believer is not as significant as that of a believer.

[Omer698]

4:92] No believer shall kill another believer, unless it is an accident. If one kills a believer by accident, he shall atone by freeing a believing slave, and paying a compensation to the victim's family, unless they forfeit such a compensation as a charity. If the victim belonged to people who are at war with you, though he was a believer, you shall atone by freeing a believing slave......

Seriously now....

[qarohc]

"Seriously now.... "

If the person belongs to the same cult as you, follow these instructions. It does not say all humans are equal. It does not say slavery is wrong and this is a tame passage that on it's surface is not immoral unless you bother to examine closely what it advocates.

You claim the quran does not justify murder this is not true.

It only limits the murder of "believers" and only if they are in your specific cult and advocates the murder of unbelievers (most of the world).

[sonnybrown]

great job of Pape to do the analysis and it helps the world for this infomation. But.

He has a horrible plan.