@ampicoab I enjoy automated musical instruments, also, such as player pianos, orchestrions, band organs, fairground organs , etc. in addition to the theater organ. When ever I can, I visit Cooley's Old Time Piano Shoppe website. COTPS sells all kinds of automated musical instruments. COTPS is located in Hochessin DE. I love the music they have on there as well. I enjoy looking at pictures of instruments there. Unfortunately. Rick Cooley, Sr. who owned it, passed away on 8-15-2010. his wife, Be
Although I'm a pianist, I know nothing about player pianos. And I've always wondered: can a human play a player piano as he would a regular piano? You know, like with the keys 'n' stuff?
@WelteMax Actually, no. The reroll track for the Duo Art is the first hole on the left. For the Welte, it is hole ten from the right side. Obviously, many of the tracker holes have multiple functions, depending on which system is operating. More complex is the division of the the stack. Each system has separate expression for bass and treble, but the divide point is not the same. The Welte has more notes, including low C, on the bass. The Duo Art bass starts at C#.
@MarzipanSamurai Actually, they didn't. Aeolian made the player mechanisms for Steinway's "Duo Art" series. It was, however, a successful collaboration.
Holly Cow Two in one. Never would have thought that was possible. Did they make many of these or was it a one of a kind custom order? Where did you ever find such a magnificent instrument and in a Steinway to boot? Fantastic Welte replay. The the control switch to do the counter melody section is done with perfect results!.
The underside is shown at 1:44 thru 1:49. You really can't see the details. What you can see is there is NO empty space!
Note an abundance of large hoses throughout the entire underside. The Welte expression unit is above the rear leg, just aft of the electric motor.
The curved hoses leading to the center of the stack provide vacuum to the notes that swithch between the bass and treble divisions, depending on the active expression system.
I does believe that the lid is BEING shut by a PERSON!!!!!!!!! Opened by a person also, I rebuild players and have NEVER HEARD OF any kind of mechanism that would open and shut the fallboard! Len P
sweet. my old Moington-Weston player piano has reached the end I am afraid its going to be scrapped. they cost too much to repair these days.,u can have 100 rolls! free. (England)
Old pianists used to record piano rolls on a "desperate" tentative to preserve their performances as they were (obviously) not happy with the state of the audio recordings.
Duo-Art, Welte, Ampico and similar "MIDI precursor" systems were not perfect.
But listen to that famous Rachmaninoff Prelude, recorded by Rachmaninoff himself, using the Ampico system.
Could anybody please explain the different between the Art Duo and Welte Mignon system..? Is it 2 complete different systems ore is it 2 different producers of the rolls...??
The two systems are different in the manner that the expression is controlled. The coding of the rolls is different also. The Welte has no fixed steps of volume, while the Duo Art has 16 (an oversimplified explanation). There are other differences, too.
If it is not a hoax, this conversion is brilliant! In addition to the time-consuming restoration, the details are noteworthy, such as the spool-box plate that says Duo-Art and Welte, and the separate decals on the fallboard.
Love this piece of music as well as how wonderful the old fellow preforms! A great sounding reproducer. Wish all pianos sounded this good! Of course a Steinway does help, but with the Dual expression certainly is unique. Thanks, Wish you could put more of this piano on! Thanks again! Akanabea(John)
Thanks for identifying the tunes to all viewers. The two Duo Art samples came from a "Bulletin" roll and were just excerpts anyway. The "Just Friends" Welte roll was played all the way through.
that thing covering the keyboard opens up all by itself! Nice!!! I want THAT piano!!!! Its amazing!!! I bet when the piano finishes, the keyboard cover goes down all by itself too! And I can see all the keys shift itself too! I can't wait to see the pedals move all by themselves!
you seem to aquired the "Golden Fleese" of Reproducing piano's.Although I am quite aware of Duo-Art & Welte, I have never read or heard of a dual purpose reproducing piano--what a find!!!
Beautiful--great instrument, great tuning and regulation of both player and piano. Is the roll of "Just Friends" a QRS title that the Gr, er--Leedy bros. encoded for Welte Mignon expression?
great video quality. I need to unload some more stuff on ebay and make a (video) hardware upgrade
Many thanks for this good quality video and sound .I have seen similar instruments over the years but where is this one located ( or is it in a private collection ?) as I have not seen a dual action before .
This piano is indeed unique with two systems. It is in a private collection and I no longer know its location as the owner has moved. The video was made in 1999.
@ampicoab I enjoy automated musical instruments, also, such as player pianos, orchestrions, band organs, fairground organs , etc. in addition to the theater organ. When ever I can, I visit Cooley's Old Time Piano Shoppe website. COTPS sells all kinds of automated musical instruments. COTPS is located in Hochessin DE. I love the music they have on there as well. I enjoy looking at pictures of instruments there. Unfortunately. Rick Cooley, Sr. who owned it, passed away on 8-15-2010. his wife, Be
DonaldFranklin67 2 months ago
That is quite something for a player piano to have a fall board that opens and closes automatically, as it plays. How unique and unusual!
DonaldFranklin67 2 months ago
whats the title of the third music
MrJeremiahValenzuela 4 months ago in playlist Piano Player
Although I'm a pianist, I know nothing about player pianos. And I've always wondered: can a human play a player piano as he would a regular piano? You know, like with the keys 'n' stuff?
simersonic1 6 months ago
@simersonic1 Absolutely yes. There is no difference.
ampicoab 6 months ago
where do you point at from 3:31 until 3:44?
TTR3pwns 8 months ago
At 0:32 The haunted piano is being played by a GHOST!
aaron1a12 8 months ago
The First Casette Player!
coolbionicle 8 months ago 2
so it's just luck that the re-roll track is on the same tracker hole on both?=)
WelteMax 9 months ago
@WelteMax Actually, no. The reroll track for the Duo Art is the first hole on the left. For the Welte, it is hole ten from the right side. Obviously, many of the tracker holes have multiple functions, depending on which system is operating. More complex is the division of the the stack. Each system has separate expression for bass and treble, but the divide point is not the same. The Welte has more notes, including low C, on the bass. The Duo Art bass starts at C#.
ampicoab 9 months ago
@WelteMax so what happens if you would paly any 88-note on it ;)?
WelteMax 8 months ago
@WelteMax Play 88-note rolls by putting tape over the Duo Art expression holes. Select the Duo Art position, and play the roll.
ampicoab 7 months ago
What type of music is this?
SpyroTheDragon9972 11 months ago
Ghosts are playing the piano. O.o JK
pinky4354 11 months ago
nice! I have a 1913 player piano... but did that cover come up automaticly? or did somebody open it?
thechelsey100 1 year ago
Wow...what a wonderful piano! I have never seen a dual-system piano like this though...fascinating!
Organsk8er 1 year ago
Please can someone tell me the name of those song?, the sound beautiful.
Daniel
cubanm8 1 year ago
what are the songs played on there?
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themanolo9999 1 year ago
I think player pianos always sound better when they're a little more honky-tonk than this.
sept0988 1 year ago
@sept0988
Philistine!
lazer58 10 months ago
is there anyway i could get hold of a sheet music version of this song? it's so good
wbrigg 1 year ago
I had NO idea Steinway made players...such GORGEOUS tone!! Thank you for sharing :)
MarzipanSamurai 1 year ago
@MarzipanSamurai Actually, they didn't. Aeolian made the player mechanisms for Steinway's "Duo Art" series. It was, however, a successful collaboration.
jsteeber 1 year ago
damm i need me one of these when i get lazy to play
preciousjey 1 year ago
Superb! perfect.. you are great... thanks...dontcha love utube!
its a sunny day and I'm watching .great stuff... I gotta get out more!
bluedoris 1 year ago
very beautiful...thank you for the video
seeburgman 2 years ago
Holly Cow Two in one. Never would have thought that was possible. Did they make many of these or was it a one of a kind custom order? Where did you ever find such a magnificent instrument and in a Steinway to boot? Fantastic Welte replay. The the control switch to do the counter melody section is done with perfect results!.
jev1937 2 years ago
wow...it's so nice
313EDO 2 years ago
Do you have pictures of underneath the piano on a website somewhere. I would love to see how they fit all those parts in underneath the piano!
jlblcm 2 years ago
The underside is shown at 1:44 thru 1:49. You really can't see the details. What you can see is there is NO empty space!
Note an abundance of large hoses throughout the entire underside. The Welte expression unit is above the rear leg, just aft of the electric motor.
The curved hoses leading to the center of the stack provide vacuum to the notes that swithch between the bass and treble divisions, depending on the active expression system.
ampicoab 2 years ago
so the rolls weren't universal? They were only supposed to be played on particular pianos?
meowmeowkitty3 2 years ago
I does believe that the lid is BEING shut by a PERSON!!!!!!!!! Opened by a person also, I rebuild players and have NEVER HEARD OF any kind of mechanism that would open and shut the fallboard! Len P
maddog5461 2 years ago
OOPS, the big MYSTERY is the dual license, sorry, LOL Len P
maddog5461 2 years ago
Still my favorite utube player of all. Fine job Mr. Craftsman, and thank you for such an excellent job of tuning the instrument properly. I noticed!
kawaimaster 2 years ago
Yeah, that was sort of spooky how the lid flipped up. xP
adametokillfor 2 years ago
Every time I watch this piano, I love it more, as well as the music it plays.
Thanks for the video
aknabea 2 years ago
sweet. my old Moington-Weston player piano has reached the end I am afraid its going to be scrapped. they cost too much to repair these days.,u can have 100 rolls! free. (England)
bluedoris 2 years ago
G G G GHOST!
figaro589 2 years ago 2
very nice
sapphiresanchez 2 years ago
wow we had 2 players and we loved them
wish we had one now there great for partys and sing along
owlydog 2 years ago
just get a cd player
JohnF30Music 2 years ago
Old pianists used to record piano rolls on a "desperate" tentative to preserve their performances as they were (obviously) not happy with the state of the audio recordings.
Duo-Art, Welte, Ampico and similar "MIDI precursor" systems were not perfect.
But listen to that famous Rachmaninoff Prelude, recorded by Rachmaninoff himself, using the Ampico system.
ClassicalOJazz 2 years ago
A wonderful piano, playing a real feel-good song. I've come back frequently to listen over and over. Thanks for posting this! Please post more!
cntryby8 3 years ago
what are the songs and who are the composers?
spiritbrother 3 years ago
I think that she second song, played by the Welte-Mignon, is "Just Friends" ; the composer is Justin Klenner (it's on the roll box).
a78ba 2 years ago
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tepedor66 3 years ago
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tepedor66 3 years ago
Could anybody please explain the different between the Art Duo and Welte Mignon system..? Is it 2 complete different systems ore is it 2 different producers of the rolls...??
tepedor66 3 years ago
The two systems are different in the manner that the expression is controlled. The coding of the rolls is different also. The Welte has no fixed steps of volume, while the Duo Art has 16 (an oversimplified explanation). There are other differences, too.
ampicoab 3 years ago
the other differences .. ? They are..? Have allways been impressed by these player pianoes....
tepedor66 3 years ago
@ampicoab What is happening? How does that piano play itself? If only my piano did that! Seriously can it function as a normal piano too?
MrJackanthony 1 year ago
Where did you buy this Player Piano? Well done for the care, it sounds great!
sergioiudicibus 3 years ago
I have a similar piano. It's a Steinway concert grand from 1927 that has both Duo-Art and QRS systems. How rare are these double system pianos?
tom16mm 3 years ago
Very rare
ampicoab 3 years ago
@ampicoab
Like Antiques Roadshow appraisers circling-it-like-moths-to-the-porch-light rare. lol
kasteman1 1 year ago
Wow...my aunt, Dagmar Nordstrom, cut piano rolls at Steinway in New York city in the 1920s.
NordstromSisters 3 years ago
If it is not a hoax, this conversion is brilliant! In addition to the time-consuming restoration, the details are noteworthy, such as the spool-box plate that says Duo-Art and Welte, and the separate decals on the fallboard.
nedsparks 3 years ago
Not a hoax. Too bad I don't have more footage. This was taken in 1999, and now I don't know where the piano is located.
ampicoab 3 years ago
the lid doesnt go up and down by its self...and of course the keys move...its a player piano...it plays...they all do
Jitters10 3 years ago
Yeah, it seems that someone got close but not visible by the camera and lifted it up.
PirhanaandKodiak 3 years ago
Love this piece of music as well as how wonderful the old fellow preforms! A great sounding reproducer. Wish all pianos sounded this good! Of course a Steinway does help, but with the Dual expression certainly is unique. Thanks, Wish you could put more of this piano on! Thanks again! Akanabea(John)
aknabea 4 years ago
Can you say which songs are played?
heaterI 4 years ago
My Sin (DeSylva, Brown & Henderson) 1929
My Lucky Star (DeSylva, Brown & Henderson) from "Follow Thru" 1928
Just Friends (Sam Lewis-John Klenner) 1931
nedsparks 3 years ago
Thanks for identifying the tunes to all viewers. The two Duo Art samples came from a "Bulletin" roll and were just excerpts anyway. The "Just Friends" Welte roll was played all the way through.
ampicoab 3 years ago
that thing covering the keyboard opens up all by itself! Nice!!! I want THAT piano!!!! Its amazing!!! I bet when the piano finishes, the keyboard cover goes down all by itself too! And I can see all the keys shift itself too! I can't wait to see the pedals move all by themselves!
elisan693 4 years ago
you seem to aquired the "Golden Fleese" of Reproducing piano's.Although I am quite aware of Duo-Art & Welte, I have never read or heard of a dual purpose reproducing piano--what a find!!!
heresjohnny888 4 years ago
Beautiful--great instrument, great tuning and regulation of both player and piano. Is the roll of "Just Friends" a QRS title that the Gr, er--Leedy bros. encoded for Welte Mignon expression?
great video quality. I need to unload some more stuff on ebay and make a (video) hardware upgrade
56Packman 4 years ago
Thanks for the comments, the roll is a recut, by the brothers Leedy, but the original was a Welte coded roll.
ampicoab 4 years ago
A sound fit for Park Avenue or the Drake Hotel or the Empire Room at the Palmer House! This piano has a memory of the best of popular music!
WOW!
ragsoldiron 4 years ago
Many thanks for this good quality video and sound .I have seen similar instruments over the years but where is this one located ( or is it in a private collection ?) as I have not seen a dual action before .
Best wishes
Rick
rickglos1 4 years ago
This piano is indeed unique with two systems. It is in a private collection and I no longer know its location as the owner has moved. The video was made in 1999.
ampicoab 4 years ago
many thanks -Rick
rickglos1 4 years ago
Very interesting.We need more videos like this
hupfeldpan 4 years ago
AMAZING! The quality of the video is super. I really like seeing the mechanisum and how a reproducing piano works
earthquake88 4 years ago