Also here it says that the 20,000 elk were not healthy to the ecosystem. The wolves are helping keep balance. nationalparkstravele DOTCOM /2011/01/annual-count-shows-huge-decline-yellowstone-national-park-elk-herd-how-accurate-it7458
I like how in Native American sign language, "Pawnee" and "wolf" were the same sign. (I'm sure you know this, pawneewolf). Thanks for posting this episode, by the way.
Freaking youtube is blocking this video on some countries. Some parts are available without proxy what is odd. I wish that wolves shreds to parts Youtube's copyright stupidity.
@lastEvergreen Wolves kill everything in one area and then move on. There is no "balance" involved. Those who believe that are living in a fanatsy world. Live the nightmare, its not alot of fun.
@lastEvergreen Figures, spelling. The idea got across.....Moose just about extinct in the park, Elk down so low recovery may not be possilble.....same ol story.
@Mont556n I don't think that a couple wolf packs could mow through a few tens of thousands elk and Moose. But hey I'm not a certified Biologist. But are do you have any professional experience in this field? You seem to talk in FACTS.
@lastEvergreen Hmmm, lemme see.....there are about 100 wolves in yellowstone now. Each wolf (according to the experts, the guys who study them) eats about 20 elk a year. Thats about 2,000 elk. There are only 4,000 elk left in the northern yellowstone herd. In 1995, there were 16,000 +. Do the math and you can see that elk are in serious trouble in the park. Moose? Just about nonexistant now.
it really annoys me that people think that killing wolves is the answer to the elk population decreasing, every action has a consequence, too many elk will destroy vegetation and too many wolves will endanger the species, if it was as bad as you say then experts would have done something by now, set up reservations stuff like that, killing things when there are other solutions or for fun is barbaric, to every problem there is a solution.
´Thank u so much for ulpoading! This may be my favorite wolf documentary of all time. So much good parts and epic soundtracks, also nice views of the other wild animals.
@SEElovEverywhere The wolves introduced into Yellowstone were NOT native American wolves. They were Canadian Gray Wolves, much larger than our native wolves, who they will no doubt drive into extinction. They are further annihilating the elk population, killing indiscriminantly, and leaving carcasses to rot. Do the research yourself. It's out there. This release was an astranomical mistake.
Renee Askins, a modern-day heroine, is responsible for the successful Wolf Reintroduction to Yellowstone. She established the Wolf Fund in 1986, despite death threats, nominal assets, contentious debates, political manipulations and numerous setbacks.
Actually many books written by 'pro wolf' people are also written by people who manage wolves and wolf conflicts. Conservation is supposed to balance the needs of wildlife and people, not just people and not just wolves. Once agian, please refrain from making silly comments and get some facts to support your comments.
please refrain from making ridicoulus comments throughout the whole documentary. I suggest reading a few (non bias) books before making such comments. Thanks.
Tell me one time when wolves completely wiped out a species. Last time I talked to you and asked you to give me proof about something, you never replied. How about you get your nose in the books a see how many game animals were harvested by hunters from 1600 to 1900, there was profit to be made. You haven't even seen damage. Do you know how a lot of the bison went away? Over hunting and human habitation replaced the wilderness, duh. What do you see now where wild lands once were, cities?
never said that white. Between 1600 and 1900 we had UNREGULATED HUNTING! These people hunted to survive, they had no clue about conservation....In 1940, deer (of all things) were unheard of in our area. Now well have lots. Why? conservation. Works the same today. Who pays for the game? HUNTERS. People like you sit on your asses and bitch and you have not stake in the process. A few wolves, fine, REGULATED. Its either that or people will start to take the law into thier own hands..
There, you just corrected yourself. At first you made it sound like the whole reason for the game problem from the start was wolves. And your right, hunters did damage and now days they are working for preserving the game. I was talking about the past not the present. Wolves will be delisted on May 4th, so you wont have to take the law in your own hands.
I never said I was against controlled hunting, I was just saying what happened in the past. And you didn't deny it, I just got on a soapbox.
oh yea, hey, this is mild compared to what I have been called on these videos for expressing an opinion. I try to keep it clean and discuss topic (like the wolf) but some people set me off to, for sure.
Oh, and here is a little clue. If wolves were the the reason for wild ungulate wipe outs, then there wouldn't be any game when settlers set foot on America. But there was quite the opposite, according to historical documents, there were high abundances of both wolves and game animals. Of course, human hunters depleted game numbers, then in an attempt to save the population, everyone went on a wolf killing spree. And now we are stuck with thinking wolves were the reason for the game drop.
wrong again, white. The "high incidence" of game was on the plains. YNP is not on the plains. Sure, there were some elk, moose, etc, but not at the levels of today. PEOPLE live here now and modern agriculature has brought about more wildlife. Even clearing up the forest makes for more animals. You missed the point completely. PEOPLE rely on those elk to, and thats why the wolves must be controlled.
how much of the "truth" are the pretend park biologists telling us? They saw "one" bighorn killed. Where did the rest of them go? Go to the park and try to find one, ask one of the park boys where are the sheep, oh, "they are hiding in the woods" Bullshit.
Guess what I saw at least ten bighrons on Mount Washburn and in another location near Mammoth Hot Springs in 2007. And as far as I know they're still alive as of 2009.
Well, a few suggestions then. You're guaranteed to see bighorns in the Gardner River Canyon near Mammoth Hot Springs. Also be on the lookout for them on Dunraven Pass. You'll probably see them on top of Mount Washburn also.
@NonStereotypical Perhaps you'd also like to explain why the population of elk has declined by 2/3 since the introduction of wolves? Why the Lolo 10 and 12 elk conservation areas in Idaho have had their numbers decreased by 85%? These wolves were a mistake that need to be dealt with accordingly.
@cmartel2 People have said the same thing about the elk in Yellowstone. That the population was 20,000 and has dropped to about 6,500. But if you look on the National Park Service website, it says, "More than 30,000 elk from 7-8 different herds summer in Yellowstone and approximately 15,000 to 22,000 winter in the park."
Who do I trust?
And can you point me to a peer-reviewed article about the elk population declining by 85%?
@BIGSKYHAL50 Oh no there are cows! Now there will be no grass in a few years. Ever heard of overpopulation? There will be too many of these and then they will run out of food an nearly die out. Wolves and other predators will keep population in control.
LOL That comment is hilarious. Idk... something tells me that there have been wolves, mountain sheep, and moose living together for thousands of years... something also tells me that in that amount of ecological history... that it will be ok. Take your fear mongering else where man!
thanks for posting this videoo ..this helped me alot i had questions regarding this video but was not in class when teacher showed this...thanks for posting very helpful
i have a question
when did this air on tv?
TheRj1322 4 days ago
Also here it says that the 20,000 elk were not healthy to the ecosystem. The wolves are helping keep balance. nationalparkstravele DOTCOM /2011/01/annual-count-shows-huge-decline-yellowstone-national-park-elk-herd-how-accurate-it7458
lastEvergreen 6 months ago
Right here: thewildlifenews /2011/01/12/northern-range-yellowstone-elk
lastEvergreen 6 months ago
@Mont556n 20 elk per pack meaning about 2000 a year.
Not even coming close to the 260,000 deer in a annual deer harvest of 1 state.
lastEvergreen 6 months ago
Heehee wolfwolf posted this!
lastEvergreen 9 months ago
I like how in Native American sign language, "Pawnee" and "wolf" were the same sign. (I'm sure you know this, pawneewolf). Thanks for posting this episode, by the way.
mcmptn 9 months ago
Thank you so much for uploading this. I've been trying so hard to find these videos without success. Bless you for sharing this with us.
XEvanRainX 1 year ago
Freaking youtube is blocking this video on some countries. Some parts are available without proxy what is odd. I wish that wolves shreds to parts Youtube's copyright stupidity.
RaDnWave 1 year ago
wickid!
bigmamadunn 1 year ago
Worst mistake every made in wildlife management.......
Mont556n 1 year ago
@Mont556n Ooooh you so Crazy!
And what do you mean by "every"? Might you mean ever? :\
lastEvergreen 8 months ago
@lastEvergreen Wolves kill everything in one area and then move on. There is no "balance" involved. Those who believe that are living in a fanatsy world. Live the nightmare, its not alot of fun.
Mont556n 8 months ago
@lastEvergreen Figures, spelling. The idea got across.....Moose just about extinct in the park, Elk down so low recovery may not be possilble.....same ol story.
Mont556n 8 months ago
@Mont556n I don't think that a couple wolf packs could mow through a few tens of thousands elk and Moose. But hey I'm not a certified Biologist. But are do you have any professional experience in this field? You seem to talk in FACTS.
lastEvergreen 8 months ago
@lastEvergreen Hmmm, lemme see.....there are about 100 wolves in yellowstone now. Each wolf (according to the experts, the guys who study them) eats about 20 elk a year. Thats about 2,000 elk. There are only 4,000 elk left in the northern yellowstone herd. In 1995, there were 16,000 +. Do the math and you can see that elk are in serious trouble in the park. Moose? Just about nonexistant now.
Mont556n 8 months ago
it really annoys me that people think that killing wolves is the answer to the elk population decreasing, every action has a consequence, too many elk will destroy vegetation and too many wolves will endanger the species, if it was as bad as you say then experts would have done something by now, set up reservations stuff like that, killing things when there are other solutions or for fun is barbaric, to every problem there is a solution.
MetalShewolf93 1 year ago
´Thank u so much for ulpoading! This may be my favorite wolf documentary of all time. So much good parts and epic soundtracks, also nice views of the other wild animals.
AcrotheraxFabalis 1 year ago
Wolves are the ultimate predators on land. They are also Absolutely beautiful animals.
Zmaj747 1 year ago
I just got home from a vacation in Yellowstone and i saw wolves!
It was amazing!
xxfantasylovengirlxx 1 year ago
1:02- 1:13 sent a chill down my spine. O.O
ClawsOfTK 1 year ago
@ClawsOfTK Go play Dead Space :)
genissage4u 1 year ago
Driven out by fear, mistrust, and ignorance. Long live the wolves!
Larzabeth 1 year ago
i love wolves
wioholic 1 year ago
The largest econlogical mistake to ever take place occuried when canadian wolves were introduced to YNP. What a waste........
Mont556n 1 year ago
This is a wonderful documentary that clearly shows the value of wolves for other species the eco system. Thank you so much for posting! ♥ Nan
SEElovEverywhere 2 years ago 2
@SEElovEverywhere The wolves introduced into Yellowstone were NOT native American wolves. They were Canadian Gray Wolves, much larger than our native wolves, who they will no doubt drive into extinction. They are further annihilating the elk population, killing indiscriminantly, and leaving carcasses to rot. Do the research yourself. It's out there. This release was an astranomical mistake.
cmartel2 1 year ago
Renee Askins, a modern-day heroine, is responsible for the successful Wolf Reintroduction to Yellowstone. She established the Wolf Fund in 1986, despite death threats, nominal assets, contentious debates, political manipulations and numerous setbacks.
love2teachece 2 years ago 12
Exelent!!
PeponeNRC 2 years ago 3
Actually many books written by 'pro wolf' people are also written by people who manage wolves and wolf conflicts. Conservation is supposed to balance the needs of wildlife and people, not just people and not just wolves. Once agian, please refrain from making silly comments and get some facts to support your comments.
thanks.
pawneewolf 2 years ago 13
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Will there be any elk left in yellowstone in another 10 years? Only time well tell....Any mountain sheep left? Moose?
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
please refrain from making ridicoulus comments throughout the whole documentary. I suggest reading a few (non bias) books before making such comments. Thanks.
pawneewolf 2 years ago 3
maybe you should get your nose out of books written by prowolf people and see the damage yourself.......Thanks.
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Tell me one time when wolves completely wiped out a species. Last time I talked to you and asked you to give me proof about something, you never replied. How about you get your nose in the books a see how many game animals were harvested by hunters from 1600 to 1900, there was profit to be made. You haven't even seen damage. Do you know how a lot of the bison went away? Over hunting and human habitation replaced the wilderness, duh. What do you see now where wild lands once were, cities?
WhiteVV01F 2 years ago
never said that white. Between 1600 and 1900 we had UNREGULATED HUNTING! These people hunted to survive, they had no clue about conservation....In 1940, deer (of all things) were unheard of in our area. Now well have lots. Why? conservation. Works the same today. Who pays for the game? HUNTERS. People like you sit on your asses and bitch and you have not stake in the process. A few wolves, fine, REGULATED. Its either that or people will start to take the law into thier own hands..
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
There, you just corrected yourself. At first you made it sound like the whole reason for the game problem from the start was wolves. And your right, hunters did damage and now days they are working for preserving the game. I was talking about the past not the present. Wolves will be delisted on May 4th, so you wont have to take the law in your own hands.
I never said I was against controlled hunting, I was just saying what happened in the past. And you didn't deny it, I just got on a soapbox.
WhiteVV01F 2 years ago
sounds good to me, nice comment
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago 2
I figured I road up a bit hard on you that time, sorry about that. Everything cool?
WhiteVV01F 2 years ago
oh yea, hey, this is mild compared to what I have been called on these videos for expressing an opinion. I try to keep it clean and discuss topic (like the wolf) but some people set me off to, for sure.
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Oh, and here is a little clue. If wolves were the the reason for wild ungulate wipe outs, then there wouldn't be any game when settlers set foot on America. But there was quite the opposite, according to historical documents, there were high abundances of both wolves and game animals. Of course, human hunters depleted game numbers, then in an attempt to save the population, everyone went on a wolf killing spree. And now we are stuck with thinking wolves were the reason for the game drop.
WhiteVV01F 2 years ago
wrong again, white. The "high incidence" of game was on the plains. YNP is not on the plains. Sure, there were some elk, moose, etc, but not at the levels of today. PEOPLE live here now and modern agriculature has brought about more wildlife. Even clearing up the forest makes for more animals. You missed the point completely. PEOPLE rely on those elk to, and thats why the wolves must be controlled.
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Why are you talking to me? I don' t think you pressed reply to you right person. I never said anything about YNP. I thought we had this settled.
I think your argument is with the guy called
NonStereotypical who said:
I don't know where you get your ''facts'' from, but the Park Service has only confirmed ONE incident of wolves killing a bighorn in Yellowstone.
WhiteVV01F 2 years ago
I don't know where you get your ''facts'' from, but the Park Service has only confirmed ONE incident of wolves killing a bighorn in Yellowstone.
NonStereotypical 2 years ago
how much of the "truth" are the pretend park biologists telling us? They saw "one" bighorn killed. Where did the rest of them go? Go to the park and try to find one, ask one of the park boys where are the sheep, oh, "they are hiding in the woods" Bullshit.
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Guess what I saw at least ten bighrons on Mount Washburn and in another location near Mammoth Hot Springs in 2007. And as far as I know they're still alive as of 2009.
NonStereotypical 2 years ago
ok, 2007, well, there are still some....funny how the park officials have not said much about bighorns........
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Well the Park Service says they don't expect wolves to impact the bighorn population.
NonStereotypical 2 years ago
ok, I can live with that, but I will see for myself this summer.....
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Well, a few suggestions then. You're guaranteed to see bighorns in the Gardner River Canyon near Mammoth Hot Springs. Also be on the lookout for them on Dunraven Pass. You'll probably see them on top of Mount Washburn also.
NonStereotypical 2 years ago
oh, I will be there, thanks for the info......
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
@NonStereotypical Perhaps you'd also like to explain why the population of elk has declined by 2/3 since the introduction of wolves? Why the Lolo 10 and 12 elk conservation areas in Idaho have had their numbers decreased by 85%? These wolves were a mistake that need to be dealt with accordingly.
cmartel2 1 year ago
@cmartel2 People have said the same thing about the elk in Yellowstone. That the population was 20,000 and has dropped to about 6,500. But if you look on the National Park Service website, it says, "More than 30,000 elk from 7-8 different herds summer in Yellowstone and approximately 15,000 to 22,000 winter in the park."
Who do I trust?
And can you point me to a peer-reviewed article about the elk population declining by 85%?
nofxpunk023 1 year ago
@BIGSKYHAL50 lol, what non sense... u a vegetarian or something? u have no understanding of the food chain it seems...
ZapherJin 1 year ago
@BIGSKYHAL50 that comment could only come from someone who is ignorant.
Raksha76 1 year ago
@BIGSKYHAL50 Oh no there are cows! Now there will be no grass in a few years. Ever heard of overpopulation? There will be too many of these and then they will run out of food an nearly die out. Wolves and other predators will keep population in control.
LightningDragon1999 7 months ago
@BIGSKYHAL50
LOL That comment is hilarious. Idk... something tells me that there have been wolves, mountain sheep, and moose living together for thousands of years... something also tells me that in that amount of ecological history... that it will be ok. Take your fear mongering else where man!
CrazedMachine 5 months ago
thanks for posting this videoo ..this helped me alot i had questions regarding this video but was not in class when teacher showed this...thanks for posting very helpful
APLOV 3 years ago