Allah was the first and the last..say what you want..when we all dead and bones..we find out..all u disbeleivers will eat your wrods..moses warned you jesus warned you and muhammad warned you peace be upon em all..thats it snm DONE (:
Read the verses at least before replying lol. It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.
I am giving you actual verses where Jesus HIMSELF is telling you that he has come to follow the law of Moses, YOU yourself admit he was a Jew.
But you come to the conclusions which you have been taught by the church and they don't match with what Jesus said.
oops I meant sheep not ship, here is the verse. Matthew 15:24 "Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Haha Victoria, if Quran is proved to be copied then copying is BAD but if gospels are copied from each other, SO WHAT?? haha.
Read John 10:29. before Jesus says I and my father are one he says My father is greater than me!
1 John 4:12 "No one has ever seen God...." So either Paul is lying or John. Paul never EVER met Jesus in his life!!
@vikakond : Yeah thats the point of conflict between Christianity and Islam, Jesus (pbuh) did predicted about the last prophet and the last prophet is Mohammed (pbuh). This is same as earlier, jews didn't believed in Jesus (pbuh) as christians do not believe in Mohammed (pbuh). My brother before uttering any further rubbish against anyone, you must do a little bit of research. Read Bible and Quran as well. You'll come to know. Its up to you what you believe and perform .
@Shafaqization I suggest you read the bible carefully too and theres nothing in the Bible about mohammad because The Bible came way before the quran. The muslims just made up mohammad and put him in their quran.
@wildsurfer67 : This what a jew says that stan might have created a relegion so close to Jewism. Christianity is the continuation of Jewism as Islam is the continuation of Christianity.
Very well said Allahsarmy- GOD is one and He's the creator of all, He needs no help. He sent messengers to mankind to show the right path. may God bless all..
Paul was an apostate hebrew! He adopted the Mithrasean religion and the portraits you have is of that faith including who you say Jesus pbuh.is! Late Dr.knows the truth and he rejected!
@Allahsarmy your saying your god doesn't need partners? Well what about your mohammed? hes a partner of allah.. and why than did your god allah create the world for if there is no relationship between god and his people?
@vikakond I think you have misunderstood what Muslims believe. Muhammah and Jesus and moses and all other prophets peace be upon them all are PROPHETS and MESSENGERS of the almighty god. Muhammad pbuh is a servant of god not his partner. The relationship that god wants to have with his CREATION is that of a servant and master. God is our master and we are all his servants and he has established this relationship by sending prophets from time to time. I hope this helps :)
@vikakond Ok you seem to think of us muslims very negatively because we don't believe that jesus is god. But please just hear me out for a sec, just like out of love and compassion you say that jesus is our lord and saviour, same way we muslims out of love and compassion believe that jesus is a mighty messenger of god, we equal him to muhammad, moses, abraham and all the other messengers that god almighty sent on earth. Even bible agrees that jesus is a prophet, i can show you verses if u want.
@NeXuzMotionzz ok. show me the verses. so, why does the koran mention Jesus in the book but the Christian Holy Bible doesn't mention anywhere about mohammad as a prophet of some sort?
@vikakond I will show you not only the verses but even prophet Muhammad's name being mentioned in the old testament. But first the verses which suggest that Jesus is a prophet sent by the one true god.
Luke 24:17-22 “”About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people.”
Acts 3:13 “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His SERVANT Jesus, the one whom you delivered”
@vikakond in the verses below jesus calls himself a prophet and shows that god is greater than him.
Luke 13:33-34 “In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you.”
John 5:30 “I can of my own self do nothing, As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”
@NeXuzMotionzz yeah He is speak of the prophets, but it doesn't say anything about Him being a prophet. Read the Bible closer. He is the Son of God. The one who took the sins of the world upon Himself so we any have eternal life with Him. Read: John 14:6 ...No prophet in the Bible says that about himself except Jesus because He is the Messiah who was crucified. Read: John 3:16-18. This is the truth and only truth. Read: Romans 14:11
@vikakond I am aware that there are verses where Jesus is called the son of god where he says I and my father are one, I am the way truth and the life, before Abraham was, I am. But these are not EXPLICIT verses.
John 17:3 “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” Now here it is very explicitly said that the father is the ONLY TRUE GOD who has SENT Jesus. The same gospel of John is telling you that my friend. Please don't ignore it.
@vikakond Exodus 20:2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."
Quran 14:6 "And [recall, O Children of Israel], when Moses said to His people, "Remember the favor of Allah upon you when He saved you from the people of Pharaoh, who were afflicting you with the worst torment and were slaughtering your [newborn] sons and keeping your females alive. And in that was a great trial from your Lord."
Same god, but obviously you have been taught to say its false.
@NeXuzMotionzz ok allah i might mean "god" in some arabian language but that's still not the same God of the Bible. quran might have a lot of verses that are copied from the Bible because the Bible was made way for the quran. Read and explain me this: John 8:19. All other prophets had fathers on earth but Jesus was born of virgin Mary. That's why Catholics worship Mary and not Jesus, the Son of God.
@vikakond "in some arabian language"? lol its called Arabic and it is very similar to Aramaic (the language which jesus spoke in). You must remember that Muhammad could NOT read or write. This is a historical fact! And not a single verse of quran is exactly the same as a biblical verse. However, we all know that Luke and Matthew copied from the gospel of Mark (Christian scholars say that not me).
If Jesus is son of god because he didnt have a father, then Adam didnt have a father OR a mother??
@NeXuzMotionzz Jesus was a jew and also no one copied the gospel from each other. They all saw what happened and each of them interpreted in their own words. God created Adam and Eve but God didn't create Jesus because He already existed with the heavenly Father in heaven.
@vikakond I never said Jesus wasn't a Jew. In fact, he was sent to the "lost ship of house of Israel" according to the bible. All Jews believe that god is only one including Jesus.
There are verses and paragraphs and pages which are exactly word to word the same found in the gospel of mark, matthew and Luke, that is why they are called synoptic gospels. Do some research please.
Yes if Jesus was already god then stop saying his virgin birth proves it & prove to me he was already there with god.
@NeXuzMotionzz "he was sent to the "lost ship of house of Israel" according to the bible" where is this from? Yes, most of the gospels are the same, so what. As far as Jesus and God being one, read: John 10:30, they are ONE along with the Holy Spirit. Also Paul said, Christ Jesus is the visible image of the invisible God. John said, He existed in the beginning with God. Peter said, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life.
@NeXuzMotionzz Look your not getting it. No one made Him into something. He came to earth self-willing to redeem everyone who ever lived, who are living, and who will live on earth from eternal hell after death. Only through Jesus death on the cross we will have salvation. This only possible if one accepts The Holy Trinity (God, Son and Holy Spirit) in their life. Christians suffer the most out of any religious persecution because it's written about it in the Bible. Read: (John 15:20)
@vikakond Ok but if you start believing in trinity then there are some questions you need to answer. Can god die? If NO, then Jesus CANNOT be god because he died on the cross. Who killed god(Jesus)? If you say he came to earth self-willing to redeem everyone and that he killed himself on that cross, isn't that suicide? If you say the a bunch of Jews killed God, you are committing blasphemy because humans cannot kill their creator.
David was also called begotten son of god, is he god too? think!!
@NeXuzMotionzz Do you know about the covenant God made for man in old testament?
Well the New Testament was made because Jesus Christ comes to establish the new covenant.
Yes, everyone has seen Jesus because He was flesh, as man, but he was half God and half human. God is the invisible spirit but Jesus was flesh and blood. Yes, He died as flesh and blood but the spirit doesn't die. In fact, He rose from death and won over death itself.
@vikakond Did Jesus establish a new covenant? Lets see what Jesus says:
Matthew 5:17-18 "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God's law will disappear until its purpose is achieved."
"but he was half god and half human"? really? you do REALISE that you are calling jesus a demi-god? lol WOW!!!
@NeXuzMotionzz Exactly! ppl in the old testament used calf or goat to slaughter at the alter for their sins, and now in the new testament Jesus came down and became the slaughter Lamb on the cross for all humanity to be saved from eternal hell.
" Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fullfilled Matt (5:17-18) And Hebrews went as far as to say " He that despised Moses' Law Died without mercy under two or three witnesses" Hebrew 10:28 Even so much as eating Pork which GOD Forbade, Which the Majority of you people do. now get you teeth round that
"I will declare the decree: The Lord hath SAID unto ME, [Prophet David (as)] Thou art MY SON; this day i ""BEGOTTEN"" thee". (Psalms 2:7) so what i understand from this is GOD has Two (2) Begotten sons (Astaghfurillah) How can you argue with Scripture, which im sure you will. And dont get saying "Jesus was born of the virgin Mary" Absolutely true He(as) was, But don't mean a thing when Prophet David(as) was GODS first Begotten son now does it ?
We absolutely REJECT the idea God had a son ! saying God has a son is a DIABOLICAL lie against GOD who NO words can Descibe. GOD is the ONLY Source of Salvation. GOD does not Need to sacrifice GODS supposed son for the Sins of Mankind. GOD needs NO help. GOD Said in Many verses in the OT that he is the ONLY salavation. GOD warned people about setting up partners with him, thats exactly what you people are doing. I am Angry behond belief. But for the sake of Truth i will continue (Insha'Allah)
Obiosly satan is so smart that he would create a religion so close to Christianity and twist some major characters, To make a very thin line to decieved mankind, Satan could easily used someone to do his demonic will--Its is cristal Clear that anyone denies the christ and as a savior of god is an anti-christ and is not for christ,
Just remember people that.. Satan would come as a sheep and not as a wolf---to decieved mankind until the last day.
Praise the Lord<3 for He who is in me is far greater than he who is of the earth!<3 Nothing in this world wld make me renounce my faith in Jesus Christ<3
"And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say).
Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (Quran 5:116-117).
stop calling yourself a christian you follow paulism
Paul's teachings did match a religion of the time but it wasn't Christianity; it was Mithraism. In fact it is clear that he ripped off doctrines and even specific phrases from this early rival to Christianity. Historical evidence points to the fact that Paul was widely viewed as a Heretic by early Christians
Islamic texts regard Jesus as a righteous messenger of God, and reject the idea of him being God or the begotten Son of God. According to Islamic scriptures, the belief that Jesus is God or Son of God is shirk, or the association of partners with God, and thereby a rejection of God's divine oneness (tawhid) and the sole unpardonable sin.[28] All other sins may be forgiven through true repentance
This is ridiculous..even early Christians did not believe Mary had a divine standing with and equal to God. Trinity is simply a shorthand to recognize God and His expression to us as a loving Father, as the savior ( Jesus) and His Spirit moving to bring us to a life filled swith Grace ( the Holy Spirit)
I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah! My Savior, Redeemer, Friend, the King of Kings & Lord of Lords
@tadpoleposition those are not arguements, those are statements of truth and questions for you to think about... all I am saying is this conversation is over. If you don't believe you don't believe. That's all there is to it. I am not going to try and prove what the Bible says to you, and I am not going to try and prove that the Bible is truth. That's stupid, the Bible speaks for itself. So no I am not going to argue with you.
I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah! He is my Savior, my Redeemer, my Friend, my KING!
A SUIVRE if you want to argue bring the genuine new testament writen in aramia not what has writen paul after seventy years in greek wich contradict what jesus pbuh has said bring all your four gospels you will see it agree together for only 3% the trinity wich you pretend arose after 320 years i tell something you remember always god is not a shampoo three in one god is allah the god of ibraham and moses if you have a doubt in the birth of jesus without father remember adam and eve
god will ask jesus in the judjment day O JESUS SON OF MARIAM DID YOU SAY TO YOUR FOLLOWERS TAKE ME AND MY MOTHER FOR GODS BESIDES ALLAH why you do not finish the verses because you will know the truth jesus answer O MY LORD IF I DID IT YOU ALREADY KNOWN IT,YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN MY MIND BUT I DID NOT THE ONLY THING I TOLD WORSHIP ALLAH MY GOD AND YOUR GOD jesus our beloved we muslims we love all prophets and we dont have difference between them pbu them all if you want to ASUIVRE
@tadpole.... sorry the relationship was created by God with His Son Jesus Christ!!!! Jesus and God have both been around since the beginning (Gen 1:26) " God said let us make man in our image"!!!! Nice try
@kruzer94 "Islam is a religion that was made up by a man!!! Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ that was created by God!!!!!!"
Wait a minute! Jesus was created? So, he's not the Creator? You must not me Christian. How long will you allow yourself to believe an illiterate caravan merchant Arab living in 7th Century Arabia managed to concoct a complete social, economical, and political system out of thin air? Accept Islam and be like Jesus.
@tadpoleposition Jesus is not a Muslim. Look at your history. Islam didnt even exist in the time Jesus walked the earth. Islam in fact didn't even come around till about 600AD. How would Jesus be a Muslim, a follower of Islam and Muhammad? Muhammad (Ubu'l Kassim) wasn't even alive. It is foolishness for people to say Jesus is a Muslim. Makes me laugh.
@tifper09 I couldn't go away from this page without writing something to you ! Jesus is not a muslim , right ? what does muslim mean ? muslim means in arabic = believer in one true God ! did Jesus believe in one true God ? if not than you are a liar ! muslim is an arabic word = believer in english , so wether you like it arabic or engish its the same meaning ! Adam was muslim , Moses was muslim, and all prophets who believed in one GOD ! You are brainwashed badly
@MrCobra811 thats not true. You see, if believing in one God would make a Christian, a Muslim in Arabic, then that would also mean a Muslim is a Christian in English according to you. Yet, the Quran itself, seperates Christians/Jews from Muslims. The Quran refers to Christians and Jews as People of the Book -does it not? And you got the definition wrong, Muslim doesn't mean believer in one God in Arabic, (its shows your ignorance when you say that) look up the definition for yourself....
@MrCobra811 "Muslim" is the Arabic term for "one who submits to God". And even then the term Muslim co-insides with the term "Islam" which means submission, Muslim is not just one who submits to their god Allah but is also someone who follows the religion of Islam, and its founder, Ubu'l Kassim (aka Muhammad) and its own book, the Quran. Get your facts straight before you come at me. I am not brainwashed homey, I read the Quran for myself.
@tifper09 Believe in one God or worship in one God its the same and don't try to find an exuse ! So you are telling me that Jesus didn't worship God ? are you ? Jesus, Moses, Abraham , Adam etc worshiped one God therefore =muslims , muslim is an arabic word ok , you can use the english if you want but its still the same concept ! If islam means submission then you are telling me that Jesus didn't submit to God ? Islam doesn't mean submission to Muhammed but to God , so Jesus =muslim
@MrCobra811 First off, I never even mentioned a difference in believing in one god or worshiping in one god. so how can there be an exuse? Just because you believe in one god, doesnt me that your god is THEE ONE TRUE GOD. Like I said, Muslim means more than just "one who submits to god", the word is partners with Islam, which I know means to submit. HOWEVER, do people who are Muslims not also follow Islam, and its founder Ubu'l Kassim (muhammad)? This is an easy concept here.
@MrCobra811 A Muslim is not just one who submits to god. they submit to allah, and they are a follower of Islam, a follower of Ubu'l Kassim (Muhammad) and has their own book the Quran. According to your definition of Muslim, "one who submits to god" ... that would mean that all Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and who knows what else, all are now considered Muslims, why is that? because they all "submit to a god" Whether its THEE GOD, or just a god. SOO your definition doesnt fit.
@tifper09 Well , we were talking about abrahamic God by the way unless you never read anything about Islam ! Yes it is only to Allah , so what is the definition of Allah ? He is the most powerful , has no end or beginning , he is not like any of his creations , he is unique , the creator of universe , he is everlasting , merciful creator ! Now : whoever believes in this definition he is a muslim , if you don't believe that God has this definition then you are not a muslim !
@MrCobra811 Before you go off trying to say that allah is the same God as Jehovah, why dont you look more at the original meaning of allah. Before its meaning was changed to what you think allah's definition is.
BTW how you gonna tell me I haven't read anything about Islam. lol.
@tifper09 What on earth are you saying ? Allah = God in english ok , what are you trying to tell me ? wether you want to call him Jehovah or Allah or powerful creator the concept is the same ok , arabic word for God is Allah , what is this original meaning ? I already defined you Allah so is not the Allah of stones or rocks or some statue , God in english can be defined in many ways too but when you describe his attributes then you know which one we are talking about
@tifper09 You have read the Quran and yet you still believe that Jesus died for your sins ? LOL ! Jesus never died he was saved from God , how can a God let some criminals kill his beloved prophet ? only in christianity you hear this ! and those people who tried to kill him probably will go to heaven cos he died for their sins LMAO ! Can u not smell the cheese ?
@MrCobra811 yep & I will never believe otherwise. I have seen to much, know to much, & personally experienced WAYYY TOO much for you or any other person to try & tell me Jesus is not who He says He is. You're too late to try & convince me of anything else. Can you say that you have a close personal relationship with Almighty God, that He speaks to you daily, and shows His great love for you - or are you still trying to get right with Him through your own works/deeds and hope your good enough?
@MrCobra811 I have thaot close personal relationship w/ Almighty God. I knw of His great love for me, I know of His endless mercy&grace. I know Him. He made me righteous -right standing with Him. I don't have to do work/deeds to be right with Him, I simply have to embrace the gift of righteousness that He has given me through Jesus' blood which was shed on my behalf. All that is asked of me is that I walk worthy of the righteousness which He has given me... no other religion offers this gift.
@73geneva What sins ? and even if I had sinned , God can forgive me without having to punish somebody ! he just forgives me thats it ! Jesus died for our sins : is invented in order to make the religion easy to people so they can do whatever they like and still think that they are saved , but that is a lie ! Who died for the sins of people before Jesus ? they must have gonne to hell ! What is the point of God sending prophets when he could have just sent Jesus to die and that's it !
@MrCobra811 Why didn't He forgive Adam and Eve after they sinned, why did He chase them out of Eden? No one who truly believes in Jesus will go on doing whatever they like. God's word says if anyman be in Christ he is a new creature, old things are passed away, behold all things have become new. Those who truly accept Jesus don7t live in sin anymore. Jesus is called the Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World. All good people who died b4 Jesus still need Jesus b4 they can enter heaven.
@tifper09 So you are saying that my God is not the one true God , ok ! I gave you the definition of my God so why don't you give me your definition of yours and see if we have the same one ? now to disprove my God we can ask these questions : can god who created the universe not be all powerful ? can God be a creation , no cos a creation has a creator ! can God be born or die ? no cos he wouldn't be God then !
@tifper09 Well homey, muslim and christian are two different meanings ok , christian = one who follows Jesus christ , Muslim = one who submits to God . Jesus christ can't be called a christian , can he ? he can be called a muslim cos he worshiped God ! Moses can't be called a christian cos Jesus didn't even exist on Moses time and Moses wasn't a Jesus follower but a Gods follower ! So was Abraham and others , christianity is only for christians , islam is for everybody from Adam to us
@MrCobra811 Christian mean more than what you say as well. Christian "one who follows Christ" what does Christ mean, it means Messiah/Annointed One. According to all the scriptures regarding the Messiah and what He would do, Jesus fulfills all these. Therefore Jesus is the Messiah. Yes I follow my Jesus Christ (Jesus the Messiah) my Savior.Christianity is for the world. Jesus the Messiah, THEE SAVIOR, came to set the captives free, and redeem all who believe and call upon Him.
@tifper09 use your brain when you try to believe and not just accept what the priest tell you ! How on earth Jesus is God when he was born from a women , how ? how absurd can this be ! God is not Born or he dies ,he is not human or any of his creation , he is unique ! Jesus died for your sins , is it ? so i can cause mayhem now and still go to heaven as long as i say that Jesus died for my sins ! are you really serious ? Jesus died for nobody
@MrCobra811 First of all, I dont have a priest, I have a pastor. & my pastor never taught me about what I know about Islam. I taught myself, I studied history, the Quran, and I have many Muslim acquaintances. As for if you believe Jesus is God or not, that is your decision. But I am here to tell you, He did die on the cross, rose again and lives! Jesus died for the world, He even died for you. The fact that Jesus can redeem even the worst "sinner" shows His love & His sacrifice is powerful.
@tifper09 Jesus died for the world , this is the most ridiculous statement that christians make , no offence but if you only use the brain a little bit you would know why ! here is why : God cannot save people without having to kill his beloved son , can he ? why would a powerful God kill his own son so some random criminals go to heaven ? he can save his son and can save anybody without having to kill somebody cos he is God after all , he makes his rules ! that is insane to believe
@MrCobra811 Well since God is all powerful, why can't He do just that? Whether you believe it or not, He already did it!
All have sinned & fall short. Sin is sin, no matter how great or small. The liar, the theif, the murderer, its all sin, and sin brings death, destruction, unrighteousness & seperation from God. That is why the Perfect Lamb was sent to cleanse us from our sinful nature, redeem us, make us righteous, give us new life, and eternity spent with Him. -So insane? I think not.
Righteousness-right standing with God, holiness; purity; uprightness; rectitude. Righteousness, as used in Scripture and theology, in which it chiefly occurs, is nearly equivalent to holiness, comprehending holy principles and affections of heart, and conformity of life to the divine law, It is an attribute that implies that a person's actions are justified, and can have the connotation that the person has been "judged" or "reckoned" as leading a life that is pleasing to God.
who MADE us righteousness, not that we have to work in our own power to be made right with God, but that we are already counted as righteous through the simple belief that Jesus Christ is who He is. Christianity is not about working to save ourselves, it is about accepting the gift that God has given to those who believe. Us being made righteous, is how we can come before our Holy Almighty God, and boldly say that we have a relationship with Him.
Christianity is not like any other religion, in most other religions, it is about man trying to get right with God through actions-works-in their own power. Christianity is about being MADE right with God through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus, .
Now Islam on the other hand, doesn't take the Bible as truth, you only accept from the Bible what backs up your own book. The Quran. Which the Bible clearly doesn't back up any part of the Quran. I have read the Quran. I have studied. The Quran may share similar stories, but it does not completely line up with what the Bible says. There are many examples of how the Bible and the Quran don't agree. If Muslims where closer in relation to the Jews then they would share the same book -the Bible (OT)
Actaully the Messianic (sp?) Jews do believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God... do you even know what the trinity is? Jews and Christians have more in common than a Jew and a Muslim. Jews and Christians share the same OT, we both believe in the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.... you see Jews actually do believe in the Messiah, they just think He hasn't come yet. This is where Jews and Christians differ, Christians believe the Messiah has come, and the Messiah is Jesus.
. As a believer I am made righteous through Jesus Christ, I have that personal true undeniable relationship with Almighty God, and I am adopted into the Kingdom of God, as a child of God. Nothing can take that away from me. This is the message of the Bible.
through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And now today it is like this, if you believe in Jesus Christ is who He said He is, and if you call upon His name, and believe that He died on that cross for your sin, and rose again on the third day, you will be saved, and you will have that true relationship with God and this is best covenant between God and man
He gave all those who believe in Him back their authority and their direct fellowship with God and our authority is through Him, He is our mediator, and He has been given the Name that is ABOVE every other name, and He is the story of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, the Bible shares one theme, and that is how God restored back our fellowship with Him
who fulfilled the prophecy, who is the Messiah who died on the cross and took the sins of the world upon Himself, and on that third day He rose again from the grave and with that He conquered death, and now holds the keys to death, hell and the grave! (Meaning He has authority)
but that wasn't enough, God being rich in mercy and knowing the end even from the beginning, took it upon Himself, to provide a reasonable sacrifice, a perfect sacrifice that would blot out the sins that separated the relationship between God and man for good, thus Jesus came
That actually is not the message of the Bible that I am referring to, the message of the Bible OT and NT is this... When man and woman disobeyed God in the garden, they gave their authority over to the devil, this sin and disobedience separated all humanity from God, sin took our direct fellowship with God away, so God being full of love, mercy and grace, He established the law of Moses (OT) so that man would know what was wrong so to say, and restore part fellowship back with Him
It's the truth people, whether you like it or not! And Protestants and Catholics agree on almost nothing! Catholicism has been a cult, since not long after the 12 apostles of Christ died! So, get informed, because you will stand before Jesus Christ at the Great White Throne Jugment, if your not born-again!, and had your sins washed in Christ's Blood!!!
@bobby7771117 "Catholicism has been a cult, since not long after the 12 apostles of Christ died!"
Listen, your history was monopolized by the Catholics for centuries. You can never go back and extract what you feel is the truth. Catholicism actually existed before Jesus in Rome. You exposed the Catholic cult then basically claimed the exact same thing they would. Jesus dying and you becoming born again is all founded in Catholicism.
god says the good will suffer n b rewarded and the bad will suffer . belief in jesus as part of the trinity does not let us know we have gods favor.wicked ones r rich n healthy, n good are poor n sick. which has gods favor? days and months are named after gods that we call on every time we say them.even when we pray we call ''amen when we are done.u think jehova will answers that prayer?..stop the war of the gods..it was a trick from the beginning to divide mankind love n unity will end it all
believers in jesus as a part of the trinity still have no way of knowing god is pleased with their actions . we are taught the good will suffer the bad will suffer and god desires us long suffering and we will be rewarded.are the wicked but rich n healthy in accordance with their god? are christians who get sick and are poor in accordance with their god?we need to spend less time bad mouthing each other n see daily we call on names of many gods by saying names of weeks n months even 'amen'
understand that people who choose a god to call by name and worship are all in search of ,strongly believe or follow traditions of their fathers for a god to worship...because mankind are liars , no one has anything to go on but books or heresay..no one of any religion should be called idiots.where u are born determines who the one and only god is said to be..since no one is worthy of calling the name of god no more than u'd call your parents by their name,all are invoking ..i say creator
"ow jesus son of mary did you say "take me and my mother for two gods besides allah?"
where does this say that the trinity is jesus, allah and mary?
the verse is telling christians generally not to believe that jesus or mary are gods....
the catholics say that mary is the mother of god, and jesus is god, son of god (what a mess). protestants arent the majority of christians but acatholics are and they say that mary is mother of god...thats what the verse is saying
james white and mohammads misunderstanding pf trinity...
the qor'an doesnt say what a trinity is...the qor'an simply tells christians to stop saying 3, theres no trinity...the qor'an doesnt say "the trinity is allah, jesus and mary"...
this is a guess work of james white like many other guess works of christians...
Blessed is he who sent down the furqan upon his servant that he may be a Warner to the nations;
2-he, whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did not take to himself a son, and who has no associate in the kingdom, and who created everything, then ordained for it a measure.
And when Allah will say: o isa (Jesus) son of marium (Mary)! Did you say to men, take me and my mother for two gods beside allah, he will say: glory be to thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, thou wouldst indeed have known it; thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in thy mind, surely thou art the great knower of the unseen things
Jew's, Christian's, and Muslim's all worship the same God!!! If people took the time to understand the truth of Islam and study by reading the Qur'an before judging it.. as OUR GOD HAS INSTRUCTED US TO DO, (Read and become knowledgeable and not ignorant!!!)They would understand and would not be making ignorant propaganda videos such as this!
@aroselly not true. Jews and Christian believe in the same God, Islam however does not. Have you studied the Bible, have you looked at how different your god is and my God is? There is no way that they can be the same. I have done my fair share of studying the Quran, and I continue to study the Bible. If you look at both, with an open mind, you will see that there is no way that the god written about in the Quran and my God can be the same.
@tifper09 "Jews and Christian believe in the same God, Islam however does not."
Jew do not believe in a trinity, do not take Jesus and the Holy Spirit as false gods besides God, don't even accept Jesus as the Messiah let alone God or God's son, don't accept the crucifixion/resurrection atonement doctrine, and the list goes on. The Jews and Muslims share more in common then Christians in this regard.
Gotta love this argumentative approach. You know, if you want to learn, ask. Slinging denials and such will avail you nothing. Like the man said, Muslims can't grasp the idea of grace (unmerited favor). They've chosen to follow a lying, deceiving god and his prophet, a murdering, warmongering, raping pedophile. All we can do is show them the way. Don't try to convince them, because an Apostle tried to convince someone and failed. Just teach, that's all anyone can do.
@dilawer321 "...like a typical muslim donkey........"
If you had used kind words and been more Christ-like I might have enjoyed opening a dialogue with you, but you chose an approach unbecoming of anyone claiming to believe in God. Jesus didn't invite people to the worship of God this way. Are you even a Christian?
Is James White a Protestant? Last I checked the predominant belief in the time of Muhammad (peace be upon Him) and now amongst the Christians is the Catholic creed. "Holy Mary mother of god" ring a bell? Question: How do you not include Mary in the trinity? After all, she's the mother of god, right? Allah rejected any polytheistic concept, whether it be a binity, trinity, quadrinity, or whatever suits your fancy. It's nonsensical to not include Mary and is proof of how dumb the whole trinity is.
@apathy7170 Last I checked it was Mary who bore God according to Christians. I think you better rethink that whole "Mary has NO part in the "t"rinity" thing. Her role, according to Christians, is part and parcel why Catholics build statues to venerate her, direct their prayers to her, and so on. Don't just believe narrow-mindedly that "your" creed is the only Christian creed. There were many different creeds shortly after Jesus' ascension and even more today. God is one without partners.
Mary was a human vessel to carry Jesus Christ incarnate; she is not part of the Trinity and never has been. Not even to the catholics, who lift her up falsely, but still NOT as part of the Trinity. btw, catholic and Christian are 2 different doctrinal views. She was a blessed woman of YHVH, not a god. Just a blessed woman. I study the doctrines of not only Christian faiths, but all faiths. It is you who seem to be misled in what Christians and even catholics believe, study it
@apathy7170 Listen, I understand the trinity that was adopted by the Nicene Council in the late fourth century. It's made up of the father, son, and holy ghost. What is not understood, and can never be, is why Catholics, the main branch of Christians, falsely worship Mary and take her as a god besides God. They claim Mary is not part of the original trinity, yet direct acts of worship to her. Acts of worship should be done for God alone. Jesus worshipped his God directly without an intermediary.
First, let us clarify; catholics are not Christian they are RCC. They meet every qualification of a cult, 1)Lessen the deity of Christ (Mary as co-mediatrix/All holy one) 2) Tradition over scripture 3) Earthly leader who speaks for god 4) Heretical to study scriptures w/out their translation 5) Works righteousness 6) The r only way to god, not personal relationship. 7) Idol worship. They strayed after aprx. 200 years from truth. Satan lives @ the Vatican as much as in Mecca.
I am a Christian apologist. Didn't mean to throw you off with an obvious statement for an apologist. I do agree with you on the glaring doctrinal issues that can occur in Christian and falsely so called christian religions...this is true as well for Islam...the Hadith is oft interpreted to many different things to many sects. The issue should then fall to the core tenants of said faith and the outliers or peripheral verbiage would then be allowed scholarly discussion/debate.
@apathy7170 So, the question remains, how can you now, some 2,000 years later, try and go back and sift through what is mostly a Catholic history of Christianity and present what you believe to be the truth aside from what the Catholics maintained for centuries? It's an impossibility. Without another book, the Quran, and another Prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him, you are completely lost.
@tadpoleposition it is as easy as looking at the Bible. You ever read it? From front to back it carries the same message. From front to back it shares the same story... the same theme... do you know it? Do you know what the message of the Bible is?
@tifper09 " didn't you just hear him, MARY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY."
Do or do not Catholics build statues of Mary, direct prayers to Mary, and refer to her as "The Mother of God" among other names? You may claim God is a trinity comprising God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but that doesn't explain why the largest sect amongst Christians directs acts of worship to Mary. A four in one is more symmetrical anyway ; ) The issue is not with Islam, it's with the contradictory Christian creed.
@tadpoleposition Do you even know about the life or history of Mohammed, or how about how the name Allah was established? Allah did not always mean god like it does today. You ever wondered why Islam has a moon and a star symbol? Look into the history of Islam, and how it got started and you will understand Islam is a government "religious" system made up by a man.
@tadpoleposition Do you even know Muhammad's real name? Also know, not all Christians are Catholic. AND KNOW THAT JESUS IS NOT A MUSLIM, HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD. It is foolish for the people who wrote the Quran to think that Jesus is a Muslim, their foolishness showed when they wrote that down in the Quran..... Islam, the religion, did not even exist when Jesus walked the earth. If you knew about history you would know Jesus dwelt among the Jews, no Islam involved.
@tadpoleposition The Quran even refers to Jesus, as Jesus Christ. Do you know that Christ means "Messiah"&"Annointed" in Greek. You would think that those who wrote the Quran would not call Him that, as they don't believe in Him being who He said He was.
@tadpoleposition I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to tell or try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah!
@tadpoleposition For what I know is that the Trinity is a paganistic concept created by the Pagans, Romans and Idolizers, Jesus (Pbuh) himself had nothing to with this.
Even Christmass is a fabricated event because no one knows the actual birthdate of Jesus (Pbuh)
December 25th was indeed the birth-date of the wicked ruler Nimrod from Babylon, wich many pagans worship, they celeberate his birthdate but use Jesus as cover up.
That explains why there is the Vatican and Roman Catholic.
@eppsislike Asalamu alaikum, yeah, Jesus merely became the fountainhead of the Sun worship cult of the ancient Romans. The Feast of Ishtar (Easter) was a celebration of when the dead earth would be resurrected by the spring rains. The whole resurrection is based on that feast. Also, Christmas was to the sun worshippers the day their old god died and their new god was born. Christians say Jesus was born on that day. It's all plain to see. Thank Allah for the truth. Ma'a salaama.
Trinity Triaune God is lies from pagans, there is no such thing , God is one God and Jesus Son of God. There are no Three persons in One God, God is God and God is not human form
We dont need a Mediator we ask Allah staight forword If All-llah wants as too for give he will for give us if we did baad we wll be punished All-llah is not just he is not just going to give you haven like that comiting shirk partners with god because he is not in need of partner when he says be it will be done if he wants to forgive he will forgive us all not just christinas but Allah has made it test for you these workd in beliveing in god
Trinity Doesn't exist in greeke but it comes from latin people ok Jezus is latinised iin hebrew is Esau in Greek is kristos Which means annointed ok Christianity comes from christ Judaism comes from trime of juda so were does Islam comes from it comes from Adam Because they All-llah submited to the will of god This is Islam
All-llah has created people to think not just believe so,but to use their intelect think about this world and Allah doesnt confuse people ok Allah know how much can a person take ok
first thing too get to heaven is not is not only way All-llah say i wiil forgive all your sins accept if you dont associate partners to god wich is called in islam (shirk)
or you may go to heel and pay for what you did sins because we beleve to associate jesus with god is asin because alla says he is the one that desirves to worship nothing but him
in that verse show that the churches have the virgin amry idols and jesus idols in it..so it is in the other verse that says christian take their saints as gods.. becoz they have idols of them in the churches..admit it christianity is nothing more than idol worshippers and then they claim they worship god...how come there are no idol of the father or the holy spirit , they only existed in painting as an old man wit some light behind his head and look like zeus ~~!!
This is what I've done, I stand back watch people in their religious ways of life and I found Christians are not so faithful to YAH. I notice Muslims are very faithful not matter with the EVIL man had do to them they still pray to ALLAH which is the same GOD that Christians suppose to be faithful to. I got tired of Christians pretending to be all so HOLY and they are the most FAKE ASS people I ever seen in my life. Look what's going on with Biship Long and the Catholics
Allah is only an adjective describing Muslim god. In Christianity, GOD is the name. You can call me ignorant. You can call me stupid. But that's the truth. Allah cannot be God. God cannot be Allah. The bible teaches God isn't tempted by evil, but the quran teaches Allah is the author of evil. MY God is not a liar. He is not a deceiver. And He teaches me that the only way into Heaven is by faith in him and his grace. Not that i have to eat certain foods or pray facing a certain place. It's stupid
@zackyj19 you said :"The bible teaches God isn't tempted by evil,"
lol learn your bible your god was tempted by evil in "Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil...."
I am not arguing that allah means god, what I'm telling everyone is that allah is not Yahweh because Yahweh is not Al-Makr, change his mind, is the best of the deceivers.. all these names that are associated for allah by the quran are the names given to Satan. Yahweh does not deceive his people He Loves Us and wants us to return to him. Is it true that one way to be gurantee Paradise for a Muslim is to become a Martyr? Kill in the name of allah?
i dont get why these christians mis represent islamic concepts on God, and the way to heaven. the narrator says only through martydom can muslims enter paradise". this is not an islamic teaching. they say we dont know grace?they say that we Consider God to be very distant from, us, when the Quran States Allah is nearer to you that your Jugular vein.and of course we have rules on what we are allowed and what we are forbiden to do. any civilization does.
this is a lie why do the muslim pray 5 times a day to come closed to your lord stop listening to these people tells lies Allah is you lord MUSLIM4LIFE
Allah is not Elohim but Satan. This cult is a locust from the dessert who is mentioned in the Holy Bible. If this cult was from GOD we would not see these muslims killing humans to enter what Satan offers them, virgins, wine etc. NONSENSE it is all carnal desires that Satan throws at dogs for attraction.
@satancreatedallah who said that every muslim that kills a nopn muslim will enter paradise. the Killing is on the battle field, not on trains planes buses and public buildings. and only as a defensive not an offenseive, or aggressive attack. but the media keeps that part from you. and the bible does prophesis that the arabs would have a Prophet. would you like refrences.
@satancreatedallah isaiah 21:13, the burden upon arabia, isaiah mentions this after having seen the vision of a chariot of Asses(donkeys) the chariot of Asses turned out to be Jesus pbuh who entered jerusalem on two donkeys (mathew 21:7) who then was the chariot of camels refering to in the same vision?it can be none other that the prophet muhammed pbuh who came about 600 years after Jesus, and entered into mecca on the back of a camel...
@satancreatedallah he (Muahmmed pbuh) shined forth from mount paran (in arabia), and he came with ten thousand saints deuteronamy 33:2 (refering to the conquest of mecca. also deuteronamy32:21
@JEMOMER You are taking the bible totally out of context. The Holy Bible doesn't talk about muhammad, unless you read the book of revelation where it talks about the Antichrist and Satan. Allah is not Yahweh of the Bible but Satan and his only prophet is muhammad. I'm not trying to cause trouble I'm telling you the Truth.
@satancreatedallah Well the evidence doesnt support what you are saying. so anybody can make accusations against anybody but with no evidence, all they are are accusations. if the quran is from satan, there would be not even a shred of good in it, where as it is All Good. it would have many contradictions, there is not 1, others would be able to imitate it, but not even one has come close. again you can make further accusaqtions but they are just acusations.
@satancreatedallah Just because a ferw muslims around the world, do some crazy lunatic things, you think that is the religion. if we were to apply that rule to any belief structure,we can deny all of them even non belief. and yes especially christianity. the Prophet Muhammed in his life has never done anything immoral or unjust, and anything otherwise is being ignorent to facts and accusations. the only way nybody can say anything bad about the prophet of the one God, is if they use sumfin false
Allah was the first and the last..say what you want..when we all dead and bones..we find out..all u disbeleivers will eat your wrods..moses warned you jesus warned you and muhammad warned you peace be upon em all..thats it snm DONE (:
sunzgunz 1 month ago
Geez guys stop posting reply comments they're sooo boring just shut up.
Timushyi 1 month ago
"God" is make believe.
bryn93 1 month ago
Read the verses at least before replying lol. It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.
I am giving you actual verses where Jesus HIMSELF is telling you that he has come to follow the law of Moses, YOU yourself admit he was a Jew.
But you come to the conclusions which you have been taught by the church and they don't match with what Jesus said.
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
oops I meant sheep not ship, here is the verse. Matthew 15:24 "Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."
Haha Victoria, if Quran is proved to be copied then copying is BAD but if gospels are copied from each other, SO WHAT?? haha.
Read John 10:29. before Jesus says I and my father are one he says My father is greater than me!
1 John 4:12 "No one has ever seen God...." So either Paul is lying or John. Paul never EVER met Jesus in his life!!
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@vikakond : Yeah thats the point of conflict between Christianity and Islam, Jesus (pbuh) did predicted about the last prophet and the last prophet is Mohammed (pbuh). This is same as earlier, jews didn't believed in Jesus (pbuh) as christians do not believe in Mohammed (pbuh). My brother before uttering any further rubbish against anyone, you must do a little bit of research. Read Bible and Quran as well. You'll come to know. Its up to you what you believe and perform .
Shafaqization 2 months ago
@Shafaqization I suggest you read the bible carefully too and theres nothing in the Bible about mohammad because The Bible came way before the quran. The muslims just made up mohammad and put him in their quran.
vikakond 2 months ago
@wildsurfer67 : This what a jew says that stan might have created a relegion so close to Jewism. Christianity is the continuation of Jewism as Islam is the continuation of Christianity.
Very well said Allahsarmy- GOD is one and He's the creator of all, He needs no help. He sent messengers to mankind to show the right path. may God bless all..
Shafaqization 2 months ago
@Shafaqization Ok. Tell me this then, why doesn't God send anymore prophets to earth after Jesus?
vikakond 2 months ago
Paul was an apostate hebrew! He adopted the Mithrasean religion and the portraits you have is of that faith including who you say Jesus pbuh.is! Late Dr.knows the truth and he rejected!
GENIEDA1NONLY 2 months ago
@Allahsarmy your saying your god doesn't need partners? Well what about your mohammed? hes a partner of allah.. and why than did your god allah create the world for if there is no relationship between god and his people?
vikakond 3 months ago
@vikakond I think you have misunderstood what Muslims believe. Muhammah and Jesus and moses and all other prophets peace be upon them all are PROPHETS and MESSENGERS of the almighty god. Muhammad pbuh is a servant of god not his partner. The relationship that god wants to have with his CREATION is that of a servant and master. God is our master and we are all his servants and he has established this relationship by sending prophets from time to time. I hope this helps :)
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz It doesn't matter what muslims believe bcuz its all bullsh*t.
They make their muhammad equal to Jesus and and believe Jesus is just another ordinary prophet. Which is not true.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond Ok you seem to think of us muslims very negatively because we don't believe that jesus is god. But please just hear me out for a sec, just like out of love and compassion you say that jesus is our lord and saviour, same way we muslims out of love and compassion believe that jesus is a mighty messenger of god, we equal him to muhammad, moses, abraham and all the other messengers that god almighty sent on earth. Even bible agrees that jesus is a prophet, i can show you verses if u want.
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz ok. show me the verses. so, why does the koran mention Jesus in the book but the Christian Holy Bible doesn't mention anywhere about mohammad as a prophet of some sort?
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond I will show you not only the verses but even prophet Muhammad's name being mentioned in the old testament. But first the verses which suggest that Jesus is a prophet sent by the one true god.
Luke 24:17-22 “”About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people.”
Acts 3:13 “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His SERVANT Jesus, the one whom you delivered”
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@vikakond in the verses below jesus calls himself a prophet and shows that god is greater than him.
Luke 13:33-34 “In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you.”
John 5:30 “I can of my own self do nothing, As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”
if you want i can give u more
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz yeah He is speak of the prophets, but it doesn't say anything about Him being a prophet. Read the Bible closer. He is the Son of God. The one who took the sins of the world upon Himself so we any have eternal life with Him. Read: John 14:6 ...No prophet in the Bible says that about himself except Jesus because He is the Messiah who was crucified. Read: John 3:16-18. This is the truth and only truth. Read: Romans 14:11
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond I am aware that there are verses where Jesus is called the son of god where he says I and my father are one, I am the way truth and the life, before Abraham was, I am. But these are not EXPLICIT verses.
John 17:3 “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” Now here it is very explicitly said that the father is the ONLY TRUE GOD who has SENT Jesus. The same gospel of John is telling you that my friend. Please don't ignore it.
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz We all know allah is a false god. Read: Exodus 20:2 ..its not the same true God of the Bible.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond Exodus 20:2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."
Quran 14:6 "And [recall, O Children of Israel], when Moses said to His people, "Remember the favor of Allah upon you when He saved you from the people of Pharaoh, who were afflicting you with the worst torment and were slaughtering your [newborn] sons and keeping your females alive. And in that was a great trial from your Lord."
Same god, but obviously you have been taught to say its false.
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz ok allah i might mean "god" in some arabian language but that's still not the same God of the Bible. quran might have a lot of verses that are copied from the Bible because the Bible was made way for the quran. Read and explain me this: John 8:19. All other prophets had fathers on earth but Jesus was born of virgin Mary. That's why Catholics worship Mary and not Jesus, the Son of God.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond "in some arabian language"? lol its called Arabic and it is very similar to Aramaic (the language which jesus spoke in). You must remember that Muhammad could NOT read or write. This is a historical fact! And not a single verse of quran is exactly the same as a biblical verse. However, we all know that Luke and Matthew copied from the gospel of Mark (Christian scholars say that not me).
If Jesus is son of god because he didnt have a father, then Adam didnt have a father OR a mother??
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz Jesus was a jew and also no one copied the gospel from each other. They all saw what happened and each of them interpreted in their own words. God created Adam and Eve but God didn't create Jesus because He already existed with the heavenly Father in heaven.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond I never said Jesus wasn't a Jew. In fact, he was sent to the "lost ship of house of Israel" according to the bible. All Jews believe that god is only one including Jesus.
There are verses and paragraphs and pages which are exactly word to word the same found in the gospel of mark, matthew and Luke, that is why they are called synoptic gospels. Do some research please.
Yes if Jesus was already god then stop saying his virgin birth proves it & prove to me he was already there with god.
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz "he was sent to the "lost ship of house of Israel" according to the bible" where is this from? Yes, most of the gospels are the same, so what. As far as Jesus and God being one, read: John 10:30, they are ONE along with the Holy Spirit. Also Paul said, Christ Jesus is the visible image of the invisible God. John said, He existed in the beginning with God. Peter said, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond Is Jesus the only begotten son of god? According to the bible the answer is NO!!
[Psalms 2:7] “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou (King David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”
[Matthew 5:9] “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”
[Romans 8:14] “For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.”
So why single out Jesus? Why make him into something he never was? Why not accept him as a messenger of god
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz Look your not getting it. No one made Him into something. He came to earth self-willing to redeem everyone who ever lived, who are living, and who will live on earth from eternal hell after death. Only through Jesus death on the cross we will have salvation. This only possible if one accepts The Holy Trinity (God, Son and Holy Spirit) in their life. Christians suffer the most out of any religious persecution because it's written about it in the Bible. Read: (John 15:20)
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond Ok but if you start believing in trinity then there are some questions you need to answer. Can god die? If NO, then Jesus CANNOT be god because he died on the cross. Who killed god(Jesus)? If you say he came to earth self-willing to redeem everyone and that he killed himself on that cross, isn't that suicide? If you say the a bunch of Jews killed God, you are committing blasphemy because humans cannot kill their creator.
David was also called begotten son of god, is he god too? think!!
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz Do you know about the covenant God made for man in old testament?
Well the New Testament was made because Jesus Christ comes to establish the new covenant.
Yes, everyone has seen Jesus because He was flesh, as man, but he was half God and half human. God is the invisible spirit but Jesus was flesh and blood. Yes, He died as flesh and blood but the spirit doesn't die. In fact, He rose from death and won over death itself.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond Did Jesus establish a new covenant? Lets see what Jesus says:
Matthew 5:17-18 "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God's law will disappear until its purpose is achieved."
"but he was half god and half human"? really? you do REALISE that you are calling jesus a demi-god? lol WOW!!!
NeXuzMotionzz 2 months ago
@NeXuzMotionzz Exactly! ppl in the old testament used calf or goat to slaughter at the alter for their sins, and now in the new testament Jesus came down and became the slaughter Lamb on the cross for all humanity to be saved from eternal hell.
vikakond 2 months ago
" Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fullfilled Matt (5:17-18) And Hebrews went as far as to say " He that despised Moses' Law Died without mercy under two or three witnesses" Hebrew 10:28 Even so much as eating Pork which GOD Forbade, Which the Majority of you people do. now get you teeth round that
Allahsarmy 3 months ago
"I will declare the decree: The Lord hath SAID unto ME, [Prophet David (as)] Thou art MY SON; this day i ""BEGOTTEN"" thee". (Psalms 2:7) so what i understand from this is GOD has Two (2) Begotten sons (Astaghfurillah) How can you argue with Scripture, which im sure you will. And dont get saying "Jesus was born of the virgin Mary" Absolutely true He(as) was, But don't mean a thing when Prophet David(as) was GODS first Begotten son now does it ?
Allahsarmy 3 months ago
We absolutely REJECT the idea God had a son ! saying God has a son is a DIABOLICAL lie against GOD who NO words can Descibe. GOD is the ONLY Source of Salvation. GOD does not Need to sacrifice GODS supposed son for the Sins of Mankind. GOD needs NO help. GOD Said in Many verses in the OT that he is the ONLY salavation. GOD warned people about setting up partners with him, thats exactly what you people are doing. I am Angry behond belief. But for the sake of Truth i will continue (Insha'Allah)
Allahsarmy 3 months ago
Yahweh is actually the Son of Allah
thone2008 3 months ago
@thone2008 allah is a made up god or its satan in disguise.. either one works.
vikakond 2 months ago
@vikakond
nearly right, allah/god/satan are Products of AUTHORS, like harry potter
thone2008 2 months ago
Obiosly satan is so smart that he would create a religion so close to Christianity and twist some major characters, To make a very thin line to decieved mankind, Satan could easily used someone to do his demonic will--Its is cristal Clear that anyone denies the christ and as a savior of god is an anti-christ and is not for christ,
Just remember people that.. Satan would come as a sheep and not as a wolf---to decieved mankind until the last day.
wildsurfer67 3 months ago
Praise the Lord<3 for He who is in me is far greater than he who is of the earth!<3 Nothing in this world wld make me renounce my faith in Jesus Christ<3
danyboo2486 3 months ago
"And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say).
Fujackattack 3 months ago
Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (Quran 5:116-117).
Fujackattack 3 months ago
stop calling yourself a christian you follow paulism
Paul's teachings did match a religion of the time but it wasn't Christianity; it was Mithraism. In fact it is clear that he ripped off doctrines and even specific phrases from this early rival to Christianity. Historical evidence points to the fact that Paul was widely viewed as a Heretic by early Christians
Fujackattack 3 months ago
Islamic texts regard Jesus as a righteous messenger of God, and reject the idea of him being God or the begotten Son of God. According to Islamic scriptures, the belief that Jesus is God or Son of God is shirk, or the association of partners with God, and thereby a rejection of God's divine oneness (tawhid) and the sole unpardonable sin.[28] All other sins may be forgiven through true repentance
Fujackattack 3 months ago
This is ridiculous..even early Christians did not believe Mary had a divine standing with and equal to God. Trinity is simply a shorthand to recognize God and His expression to us as a loving Father, as the savior ( Jesus) and His Spirit moving to bring us to a life filled swith Grace ( the Holy Spirit)
mikko522 7 months ago
I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah! My Savior, Redeemer, Friend, the King of Kings & Lord of Lords
tifper09 8 months ago
@tifper09 "I am not going to argue with you about this."
7 posts later.
tadpoleposition 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition those are not arguements, those are statements of truth and questions for you to think about... all I am saying is this conversation is over. If you don't believe you don't believe. That's all there is to it. I am not going to try and prove what the Bible says to you, and I am not going to try and prove that the Bible is truth. That's stupid, the Bible speaks for itself. So no I am not going to argue with you.
tifper09 8 months ago
I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah! He is my Savior, my Redeemer, my Friend, my KING!
tifper09 8 months ago
A SUIVRE if you want to argue bring the genuine new testament writen in aramia not what has writen paul after seventy years in greek wich contradict what jesus pbuh has said bring all your four gospels you will see it agree together for only 3% the trinity wich you pretend arose after 320 years i tell something you remember always god is not a shampoo three in one god is allah the god of ibraham and moses if you have a doubt in the birth of jesus without father remember adam and eve
4219551 8 months ago
god will ask jesus in the judjment day O JESUS SON OF MARIAM DID YOU SAY TO YOUR FOLLOWERS TAKE ME AND MY MOTHER FOR GODS BESIDES ALLAH why you do not finish the verses because you will know the truth jesus answer O MY LORD IF I DID IT YOU ALREADY KNOWN IT,YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN MY MIND BUT I DID NOT THE ONLY THING I TOLD WORSHIP ALLAH MY GOD AND YOUR GOD jesus our beloved we muslims we love all prophets and we dont have difference between them pbu them all if you want to ASUIVRE
4219551 8 months ago
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@tadpole.... sorry the relationship was created by God with His Son Jesus Christ!!!! Jesus and God have both been around since the beginning (Gen 1:26) " God said let us make man in our image"!!!! Nice try
kruzer94 8 months ago
Islam is a religion that was made up by a man!!! Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ that was created by God!!!!!!
kruzer94 8 months ago
@kruzer94 "Islam is a religion that was made up by a man!!! Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ that was created by God!!!!!!"
Wait a minute! Jesus was created? So, he's not the Creator? You must not me Christian. How long will you allow yourself to believe an illiterate caravan merchant Arab living in 7th Century Arabia managed to concoct a complete social, economical, and political system out of thin air? Accept Islam and be like Jesus.
tadpoleposition 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition Jesus is not a Muslim. Look at your history. Islam didnt even exist in the time Jesus walked the earth. Islam in fact didn't even come around till about 600AD. How would Jesus be a Muslim, a follower of Islam and Muhammad? Muhammad (Ubu'l Kassim) wasn't even alive. It is foolishness for people to say Jesus is a Muslim. Makes me laugh.
tifper09 8 months ago
@tifper09 I couldn't go away from this page without writing something to you ! Jesus is not a muslim , right ? what does muslim mean ? muslim means in arabic = believer in one true God ! did Jesus believe in one true God ? if not than you are a liar ! muslim is an arabic word = believer in english , so wether you like it arabic or engish its the same meaning ! Adam was muslim , Moses was muslim, and all prophets who believed in one GOD ! You are brainwashed badly
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 thats not true. You see, if believing in one God would make a Christian, a Muslim in Arabic, then that would also mean a Muslim is a Christian in English according to you. Yet, the Quran itself, seperates Christians/Jews from Muslims. The Quran refers to Christians and Jews as People of the Book -does it not? And you got the definition wrong, Muslim doesn't mean believer in one God in Arabic, (its shows your ignorance when you say that) look up the definition for yourself....
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 "Muslim" is the Arabic term for "one who submits to God". And even then the term Muslim co-insides with the term "Islam" which means submission, Muslim is not just one who submits to their god Allah but is also someone who follows the religion of Islam, and its founder, Ubu'l Kassim (aka Muhammad) and its own book, the Quran. Get your facts straight before you come at me. I am not brainwashed homey, I read the Quran for myself.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 Believe in one God or worship in one God its the same and don't try to find an exuse ! So you are telling me that Jesus didn't worship God ? are you ? Jesus, Moses, Abraham , Adam etc worshiped one God therefore =muslims , muslim is an arabic word ok , you can use the english if you want but its still the same concept ! If islam means submission then you are telling me that Jesus didn't submit to God ? Islam doesn't mean submission to Muhammed but to God , so Jesus =muslim
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 First off, I never even mentioned a difference in believing in one god or worshiping in one god. so how can there be an exuse? Just because you believe in one god, doesnt me that your god is THEE ONE TRUE GOD. Like I said, Muslim means more than just "one who submits to god", the word is partners with Islam, which I know means to submit. HOWEVER, do people who are Muslims not also follow Islam, and its founder Ubu'l Kassim (muhammad)? This is an easy concept here.
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 A Muslim is not just one who submits to god. they submit to allah, and they are a follower of Islam, a follower of Ubu'l Kassim (Muhammad) and has their own book the Quran. According to your definition of Muslim, "one who submits to god" ... that would mean that all Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and who knows what else, all are now considered Muslims, why is that? because they all "submit to a god" Whether its THEE GOD, or just a god. SOO your definition doesnt fit.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 Well , we were talking about abrahamic God by the way unless you never read anything about Islam ! Yes it is only to Allah , so what is the definition of Allah ? He is the most powerful , has no end or beginning , he is not like any of his creations , he is unique , the creator of universe , he is everlasting , merciful creator ! Now : whoever believes in this definition he is a muslim , if you don't believe that God has this definition then you are not a muslim !
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 Before you go off trying to say that allah is the same God as Jehovah, why dont you look more at the original meaning of allah. Before its meaning was changed to what you think allah's definition is.
BTW how you gonna tell me I haven't read anything about Islam. lol.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 What on earth are you saying ? Allah = God in english ok , what are you trying to tell me ? wether you want to call him Jehovah or Allah or powerful creator the concept is the same ok , arabic word for God is Allah , what is this original meaning ? I already defined you Allah so is not the Allah of stones or rocks or some statue , God in english can be defined in many ways too but when you describe his attributes then you know which one we are talking about
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 lol do I have to do all your homework? go research and study about the god allah before 600AD...
here is a little clue though, shows who allah is and always will be...
why do you think Islam is represented by a moon and a star?
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 check out this website, this might help you a bit...
go to awesomestories,com then go to story index, type in Fear of Islam....
this story is to counteract the fear of Islam, but it contains much truth about its basic beliefs and how it was started, and about Muhammad himself.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 You have read the Quran and yet you still believe that Jesus died for your sins ? LOL ! Jesus never died he was saved from God , how can a God let some criminals kill his beloved prophet ? only in christianity you hear this ! and those people who tried to kill him probably will go to heaven cos he died for their sins LMAO ! Can u not smell the cheese ?
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 yep & I will never believe otherwise. I have seen to much, know to much, & personally experienced WAYYY TOO much for you or any other person to try & tell me Jesus is not who He says He is. You're too late to try & convince me of anything else. Can you say that you have a close personal relationship with Almighty God, that He speaks to you daily, and shows His great love for you - or are you still trying to get right with Him through your own works/deeds and hope your good enough?
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 I have thaot close personal relationship w/ Almighty God. I knw of His great love for me, I know of His endless mercy&grace. I know Him. He made me righteous -right standing with Him. I don't have to do work/deeds to be right with Him, I simply have to embrace the gift of righteousness that He has given me through Jesus' blood which was shed on my behalf. All that is asked of me is that I walk worthy of the righteousness which He has given me... no other religion offers this gift.
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 It was your sins that made Jesus die, but He did not remain in the grave; He rose again three days later and He is alive forevermore.
73geneva 5 months ago
@73geneva What sins ? and even if I had sinned , God can forgive me without having to punish somebody ! he just forgives me thats it ! Jesus died for our sins : is invented in order to make the religion easy to people so they can do whatever they like and still think that they are saved , but that is a lie ! Who died for the sins of people before Jesus ? they must have gonne to hell ! What is the point of God sending prophets when he could have just sent Jesus to die and that's it !
MrCobra811 5 months ago
@MrCobra811 Why didn't He forgive Adam and Eve after they sinned, why did He chase them out of Eden? No one who truly believes in Jesus will go on doing whatever they like. God's word says if anyman be in Christ he is a new creature, old things are passed away, behold all things have become new. Those who truly accept Jesus don7t live in sin anymore. Jesus is called the Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World. All good people who died b4 Jesus still need Jesus b4 they can enter heaven.
73geneva 5 months ago
@tifper09 So you are saying that my God is not the one true God , ok ! I gave you the definition of my God so why don't you give me your definition of yours and see if we have the same one ? now to disprove my God we can ask these questions : can god who created the universe not be all powerful ? can God be a creation , no cos a creation has a creator ! can God be born or die ? no cos he wouldn't be God then !
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@tifper09 Well homey, muslim and christian are two different meanings ok , christian = one who follows Jesus christ , Muslim = one who submits to God . Jesus christ can't be called a christian , can he ? he can be called a muslim cos he worshiped God ! Moses can't be called a christian cos Jesus didn't even exist on Moses time and Moses wasn't a Jesus follower but a Gods follower ! So was Abraham and others , christianity is only for christians , islam is for everybody from Adam to us
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 Christian mean more than what you say as well. Christian "one who follows Christ" what does Christ mean, it means Messiah/Annointed One. According to all the scriptures regarding the Messiah and what He would do, Jesus fulfills all these. Therefore Jesus is the Messiah. Yes I follow my Jesus Christ (Jesus the Messiah) my Savior.Christianity is for the world. Jesus the Messiah, THEE SAVIOR, came to set the captives free, and redeem all who believe and call upon Him.
tifper09 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 that choice to follow Him is for everybody.... -looks like you already made your choice.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 use your brain when you try to believe and not just accept what the priest tell you ! How on earth Jesus is God when he was born from a women , how ? how absurd can this be ! God is not Born or he dies ,he is not human or any of his creation , he is unique ! Jesus died for your sins , is it ? so i can cause mayhem now and still go to heaven as long as i say that Jesus died for my sins ! are you really serious ? Jesus died for nobody
MrCobra811 6 months ago
@MrCobra811 First of all, I dont have a priest, I have a pastor. & my pastor never taught me about what I know about Islam. I taught myself, I studied history, the Quran, and I have many Muslim acquaintances. As for if you believe Jesus is God or not, that is your decision. But I am here to tell you, He did die on the cross, rose again and lives! Jesus died for the world, He even died for you. The fact that Jesus can redeem even the worst "sinner" shows His love & His sacrifice is powerful.
tifper09 6 months ago
@tifper09 Jesus died for the world , this is the most ridiculous statement that christians make , no offence but if you only use the brain a little bit you would know why ! here is why : God cannot save people without having to kill his beloved son , can he ? why would a powerful God kill his own son so some random criminals go to heaven ? he can save his son and can save anybody without having to kill somebody cos he is God after all , he makes his rules ! that is insane to believe
MrCobra811 6 months ago
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@MrCobra811 Well since God is all powerful, why can't He do just that? Whether you believe it or not, He already did it!
All have sinned & fall short. Sin is sin, no matter how great or small. The liar, the theif, the murderer, its all sin, and sin brings death, destruction, unrighteousness & seperation from God. That is why the Perfect Lamb was sent to cleanse us from our sinful nature, redeem us, make us righteous, give us new life, and eternity spent with Him. -So insane? I think not.
tifper09 6 months ago
mary is not in the trinity you fools , quran dosnt say that
izlamiztruth 8 months ago
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about!!!
k9Nemesis 9 months ago
it is unrighteousness- caused by sin that seperates man from God.
tifper09 9 months ago
Righteousness-right standing with God, holiness; purity; uprightness; rectitude. Righteousness, as used in Scripture and theology, in which it chiefly occurs, is nearly equivalent to holiness, comprehending holy principles and affections of heart, and conformity of life to the divine law, It is an attribute that implies that a person's actions are justified, and can have the connotation that the person has been "judged" or "reckoned" as leading a life that is pleasing to God.
tifper09 9 months ago
who MADE us righteousness, not that we have to work in our own power to be made right with God, but that we are already counted as righteous through the simple belief that Jesus Christ is who He is. Christianity is not about working to save ourselves, it is about accepting the gift that God has given to those who believe. Us being made righteous, is how we can come before our Holy Almighty God, and boldly say that we have a relationship with Him.
tifper09 9 months ago
@tifper09 I agree. It isn't about the man, its about the lamb. Only through Jesus grace may we obtain salvation.
olisaoli 8 months ago
Christianity is not like any other religion, in most other religions, it is about man trying to get right with God through actions-works-in their own power. Christianity is about being MADE right with God through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus, .
tifper09 9 months ago
ahh i mispelled a few things in those previous posts, oh well you get the point that I am making though....
tifper09 9 months ago
Now Islam on the other hand, doesn't take the Bible as truth, you only accept from the Bible what backs up your own book. The Quran. Which the Bible clearly doesn't back up any part of the Quran. I have read the Quran. I have studied. The Quran may share similar stories, but it does not completely line up with what the Bible says. There are many examples of how the Bible and the Quran don't agree. If Muslims where closer in relation to the Jews then they would share the same book -the Bible (OT)
tifper09 9 months ago
Actaully the Messianic (sp?) Jews do believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God... do you even know what the trinity is? Jews and Christians have more in common than a Jew and a Muslim. Jews and Christians share the same OT, we both believe in the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.... you see Jews actually do believe in the Messiah, they just think He hasn't come yet. This is where Jews and Christians differ, Christians believe the Messiah has come, and the Messiah is Jesus.
tifper09 9 months ago
. As a believer I am made righteous through Jesus Christ, I have that personal true undeniable relationship with Almighty God, and I am adopted into the Kingdom of God, as a child of God. Nothing can take that away from me. This is the message of the Bible.
tifper09 9 months ago
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through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And now today it is like this, if you believe in Jesus Christ is who He said He is, and if you call upon His name, and believe that He died on that cross for your sin, and rose again on the third day, you will be saved, and you will have that true relationship with God and this is best covenant between God and man
tifper09 9 months ago
He gave all those who believe in Him back their authority and their direct fellowship with God and our authority is through Him, He is our mediator, and He has been given the Name that is ABOVE every other name, and He is the story of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, the Bible shares one theme, and that is how God restored back our fellowship with Him
tifper09 9 months ago
who fulfilled the prophecy, who is the Messiah who died on the cross and took the sins of the world upon Himself, and on that third day He rose again from the grave and with that He conquered death, and now holds the keys to death, hell and the grave! (Meaning He has authority)
tifper09 9 months ago
but that wasn't enough, God being rich in mercy and knowing the end even from the beginning, took it upon Himself, to provide a reasonable sacrifice, a perfect sacrifice that would blot out the sins that separated the relationship between God and man for good, thus Jesus came
tifper09 9 months ago
That actually is not the message of the Bible that I am referring to, the message of the Bible OT and NT is this... When man and woman disobeyed God in the garden, they gave their authority over to the devil, this sin and disobedience separated all humanity from God, sin took our direct fellowship with God away, so God being full of love, mercy and grace, He established the law of Moses (OT) so that man would know what was wrong so to say, and restore part fellowship back with Him
tifper09 9 months ago
It's the truth people, whether you like it or not! And Protestants and Catholics agree on almost nothing! Catholicism has been a cult, since not long after the 12 apostles of Christ died! So, get informed, because you will stand before Jesus Christ at the Great White Throne Jugment, if your not born-again!, and had your sins washed in Christ's Blood!!!
bobby7771117 9 months ago
@bobby7771117 "Catholicism has been a cult, since not long after the 12 apostles of Christ died!"
Listen, your history was monopolized by the Catholics for centuries. You can never go back and extract what you feel is the truth. Catholicism actually existed before Jesus in Rome. You exposed the Catholic cult then basically claimed the exact same thing they would. Jesus dying and you becoming born again is all founded in Catholicism.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
god says the good will suffer n b rewarded and the bad will suffer . belief in jesus as part of the trinity does not let us know we have gods favor.wicked ones r rich n healthy, n good are poor n sick. which has gods favor? days and months are named after gods that we call on every time we say them.even when we pray we call ''amen when we are done.u think jehova will answers that prayer?..stop the war of the gods..it was a trick from the beginning to divide mankind love n unity will end it all
09876543210098765432 9 months ago
believers in jesus as a part of the trinity still have no way of knowing god is pleased with their actions . we are taught the good will suffer the bad will suffer and god desires us long suffering and we will be rewarded.are the wicked but rich n healthy in accordance with their god? are christians who get sick and are poor in accordance with their god?we need to spend less time bad mouthing each other n see daily we call on names of many gods by saying names of weeks n months even 'amen'
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09876543210098765432 9 months ago
understand that people who choose a god to call by name and worship are all in search of ,strongly believe or follow traditions of their fathers for a god to worship...because mankind are liars , no one has anything to go on but books or heresay..no one of any religion should be called idiots.where u are born determines who the one and only god is said to be..since no one is worthy of calling the name of god no more than u'd call your parents by their name,all are invoking ..i say creator
09876543210098765432 9 months ago
damn liars...u christians would better stop listening to missionaries...missionaries wont save u from the hell fire...
khalilrabee 9 months ago
"ow jesus son of mary did you say "take me and my mother for two gods besides allah?"
where does this say that the trinity is jesus, allah and mary?
the verse is telling christians generally not to believe that jesus or mary are gods....
the catholics say that mary is the mother of god, and jesus is god, son of god (what a mess). protestants arent the majority of christians but acatholics are and they say that mary is mother of god...thats what the verse is saying
khalilrabee 9 months ago
james white and mohammads misunderstanding pf trinity...
the qor'an doesnt say what a trinity is...the qor'an simply tells christians to stop saying 3, theres no trinity...the qor'an doesnt say "the trinity is allah, jesus and mary"...
this is a guess work of james white like many other guess works of christians...
khalilrabee 9 months ago
Quran:
{Surah-25-the criterion (furqan)-vs-1}
Blessed is he who sent down the furqan upon his servant that he may be a Warner to the nations;
2-he, whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did not take to himself a son, and who has no associate in the kingdom, and who created everything, then ordained for it a measure.
quranresponse 10 months ago
will ask Jesus on the judgment day?
Quran:
(Surah-5-the maidah-vs-116)
And when Allah will say: o isa (Jesus) son of marium (Mary)! Did you say to men, take me and my mother for two gods beside allah, he will say: glory be to thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, thou wouldst indeed have known it; thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in thy mind, surely thou art the great knower of the unseen things
quranresponse 10 months ago
He prayed the rosary. 'Enough!
Hkepfer 11 months ago
This is a good video -thank you.
Hkepfer 11 months ago
Jew's, Christian's, and Muslim's all worship the same God!!! If people took the time to understand the truth of Islam and study by reading the Qur'an before judging it.. as OUR GOD HAS INSTRUCTED US TO DO, (Read and become knowledgeable and not ignorant!!!)They would understand and would not be making ignorant propaganda videos such as this!
aroselly 11 months ago
@aroselly not true. Jews and Christian believe in the same God, Islam however does not. Have you studied the Bible, have you looked at how different your god is and my God is? There is no way that they can be the same. I have done my fair share of studying the Quran, and I continue to study the Bible. If you look at both, with an open mind, you will see that there is no way that the god written about in the Quran and my God can be the same.
tifper09 9 months ago
@tifper09 "Jews and Christian believe in the same God, Islam however does not."
Jew do not believe in a trinity, do not take Jesus and the Holy Spirit as false gods besides God, don't even accept Jesus as the Messiah let alone God or God's son, don't accept the crucifixion/resurrection atonement doctrine, and the list goes on. The Jews and Muslims share more in common then Christians in this regard.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
I LOVE JESUS CHRIST!!TRUTH GOD CHANGE FROM THE HEART..
Shark8er 1 year ago
Fuck religions!
luxfair 1 year ago
Gotta love this argumentative approach. You know, if you want to learn, ask. Slinging denials and such will avail you nothing. Like the man said, Muslims can't grasp the idea of grace (unmerited favor). They've chosen to follow a lying, deceiving god and his prophet, a murdering, warmongering, raping pedophile. All we can do is show them the way. Don't try to convince them, because an Apostle tried to convince someone and failed. Just teach, that's all anyone can do.
DreadStorm 1 year ago
Could someone pay me a dollar for every time I said "That's not true" during this vomit? I need some new stunnas.
tadpoleposition 1 year ago 33
@tadpoleposition name 1 part thats not true, instead of just saying "thats not true" like a typical muslim donkey........
dilawer321 4 months ago
@dilawer321 "...like a typical muslim donkey........"
If you had used kind words and been more Christ-like I might have enjoyed opening a dialogue with you, but you chose an approach unbecoming of anyone claiming to believe in God. Jesus didn't invite people to the worship of God this way. Are you even a Christian?
tadpoleposition 4 months ago
@tadpoleposition You wasted the whole comment and didnt even bother mentioning one example...
dilawer321 4 months ago
@dilawer321 Can't even humble yourself enough to apologize. I understand.
tadpoleposition 4 months ago
@tadpoleposition ..............
dilawer321 4 months ago
Is James White a Protestant? Last I checked the predominant belief in the time of Muhammad (peace be upon Him) and now amongst the Christians is the Catholic creed. "Holy Mary mother of god" ring a bell? Question: How do you not include Mary in the trinity? After all, she's the mother of god, right? Allah rejected any polytheistic concept, whether it be a binity, trinity, quadrinity, or whatever suits your fancy. It's nonsensical to not include Mary and is proof of how dumb the whole trinity is.
tadpoleposition 1 year ago 31
@tadpoleposition
Mary has NO part in the Trinity...only a muslim would make a ridiculous claim like that.
apathy7170 10 months ago
@apathy7170 Last I checked it was Mary who bore God according to Christians. I think you better rethink that whole "Mary has NO part in the "t"rinity" thing. Her role, according to Christians, is part and parcel why Catholics build statues to venerate her, direct their prayers to her, and so on. Don't just believe narrow-mindedly that "your" creed is the only Christian creed. There were many different creeds shortly after Jesus' ascension and even more today. God is one without partners.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition
Mary was a human vessel to carry Jesus Christ incarnate; she is not part of the Trinity and never has been. Not even to the catholics, who lift her up falsely, but still NOT as part of the Trinity. btw, catholic and Christian are 2 different doctrinal views. She was a blessed woman of YHVH, not a god. Just a blessed woman. I study the doctrines of not only Christian faiths, but all faiths. It is you who seem to be misled in what Christians and even catholics believe, study it
apathy7170 10 months ago
@apathy7170 Listen, I understand the trinity that was adopted by the Nicene Council in the late fourth century. It's made up of the father, son, and holy ghost. What is not understood, and can never be, is why Catholics, the main branch of Christians, falsely worship Mary and take her as a god besides God. They claim Mary is not part of the original trinity, yet direct acts of worship to her. Acts of worship should be done for God alone. Jesus worshipped his God directly without an intermediary.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition
First, let us clarify; catholics are not Christian they are RCC. They meet every qualification of a cult, 1)Lessen the deity of Christ (Mary as co-mediatrix/All holy one) 2) Tradition over scripture 3) Earthly leader who speaks for god 4) Heretical to study scriptures w/out their translation 5) Works righteousness 6) The r only way to god, not personal relationship. 7) Idol worship. They strayed after aprx. 200 years from truth. Satan lives @ the Vatican as much as in Mecca.
apathy7170 10 months ago
@apathy7170 "Satan lives @ the Vatican as much as in Mecca."
Uh-huh? Can someone throw me a bone? I mean, you clarified the Catholics straying, then left a statement that reeks of apologetic filth.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition
I am a Christian apologist. Didn't mean to throw you off with an obvious statement for an apologist. I do agree with you on the glaring doctrinal issues that can occur in Christian and falsely so called christian religions...this is true as well for Islam...the Hadith is oft interpreted to many different things to many sects. The issue should then fall to the core tenants of said faith and the outliers or peripheral verbiage would then be allowed scholarly discussion/debate.
apathy7170 10 months ago
@apathy7170 So, the question remains, how can you now, some 2,000 years later, try and go back and sift through what is mostly a Catholic history of Christianity and present what you believe to be the truth aside from what the Catholics maintained for centuries? It's an impossibility. Without another book, the Quran, and another Prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him, you are completely lost.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@apathy7170 agree
tifper09 9 months ago
@tadpoleposition didn't you just hear him, MARY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY.
tifper09 9 months ago
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@tifper09 "didn't you just hear him, MARY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY."
Did I just hear who? Did God say He is a trinity and then explain who's its participants are and are not? Don't bother quoting 1 John 5:7.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
@tadpoleposition it is as easy as looking at the Bible. You ever read it? From front to back it carries the same message. From front to back it shares the same story... the same theme... do you know it? Do you know what the message of the Bible is?
tifper09 9 months ago
@tifper09 "You ever read it?"
Yes.
"Do you know what the message of the Bible is?"
Yes, and it's definitely not the trinity. It's worshipping God alone without taking gods with Him in worship and obeying his commands.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
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@tifper09 "didn't you just hear him, MARY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY."
Do you happen to have a verse wherein God says he is a trinity? I could care less what James White said. Oh yeah, don't bother quoting 1 John 5:7.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
@tifper09 " didn't you just hear him, MARY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY."
Do or do not Catholics build statues of Mary, direct prayers to Mary, and refer to her as "The Mother of God" among other names? You may claim God is a trinity comprising God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but that doesn't explain why the largest sect amongst Christians directs acts of worship to Mary. A four in one is more symmetrical anyway ; ) The issue is not with Islam, it's with the contradictory Christian creed.
tadpoleposition 9 months ago
@tadpoleposition Do you even know about the life or history of Mohammed, or how about how the name Allah was established? Allah did not always mean god like it does today. You ever wondered why Islam has a moon and a star symbol? Look into the history of Islam, and how it got started and you will understand Islam is a government "religious" system made up by a man.
tifper09 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition Do you even know Muhammad's real name? Also know, not all Christians are Catholic. AND KNOW THAT JESUS IS NOT A MUSLIM, HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD. It is foolish for the people who wrote the Quran to think that Jesus is a Muslim, their foolishness showed when they wrote that down in the Quran..... Islam, the religion, did not even exist when Jesus walked the earth. If you knew about history you would know Jesus dwelt among the Jews, no Islam involved.
tifper09 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition The Quran even refers to Jesus, as Jesus Christ. Do you know that Christ means "Messiah"&"Annointed" in Greek. You would think that those who wrote the Quran would not call Him that, as they don't believe in Him being who He said He was.
tifper09 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition I am not going to argue with you about this. I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I know Jesus, I have that personal relationship with Almighty God. I HAVE seen too much, know too much, and experienced too much, for you to tell or try and convince me that Jesus is not the Lamb of God, Son of God, my Redeemer, and Savior of the world. You nor any other person in this whole world, will ever be able to convince me of anything else. Jesus is the Messiah!
tifper09 8 months ago
@tadpoleposition For what I know is that the Trinity is a paganistic concept created by the Pagans, Romans and Idolizers, Jesus (Pbuh) himself had nothing to with this.
Even Christmass is a fabricated event because no one knows the actual birthdate of Jesus (Pbuh)
December 25th was indeed the birth-date of the wicked ruler Nimrod from Babylon, wich many pagans worship, they celeberate his birthdate but use Jesus as cover up.
That explains why there is the Vatican and Roman Catholic.
eppsislike 4 months ago
@eppsislike Asalamu alaikum, yeah, Jesus merely became the fountainhead of the Sun worship cult of the ancient Romans. The Feast of Ishtar (Easter) was a celebration of when the dead earth would be resurrected by the spring rains. The whole resurrection is based on that feast. Also, Christmas was to the sun worshippers the day their old god died and their new god was born. Christians say Jesus was born on that day. It's all plain to see. Thank Allah for the truth. Ma'a salaama.
tadpoleposition 4 months ago
@tadpoleposition And the world is runned by people who believe in paganism, satanism and worship money and physicial demons.
eppsislike 4 months ago
Trinity Triaune God is lies from pagans, there is no such thing , God is one God and Jesus Son of God. There are no Three persons in One God, God is God and God is not human form
Brightstarblog7 1 year ago
We dont need a Mediator we ask Allah staight forword If All-llah wants as too for give he will for give us if we did baad we wll be punished All-llah is not just he is not just going to give you haven like that comiting shirk partners with god because he is not in need of partner when he says be it will be done if he wants to forgive he will forgive us all not just christinas but Allah has made it test for you these workd in beliveing in god
SahihMuslim87 1 year ago
Trinity Doesn't exist in greeke but it comes from latin people ok Jezus is latinised iin hebrew is Esau in Greek is kristos Which means annointed ok Christianity comes from christ Judaism comes from trime of juda so were does Islam comes from it comes from Adam Because they All-llah submited to the will of god This is Islam
SahihMuslim87 1 year ago
All-llah has created people to think not just believe so,but to use their intelect think about this world and Allah doesnt confuse people ok Allah know how much can a person take ok
SahihMuslim87 1 year ago
first thing too get to heaven is not is not only way All-llah say i wiil forgive all your sins accept if you dont associate partners to god wich is called in islam (shirk)
or you may go to heel and pay for what you did sins because we beleve to associate jesus with god is asin because alla says he is the one that desirves to worship nothing but him
SahihMuslim87 1 year ago
According to the Koran, Allah is Yahweh/Jehovah/Adonai/Al-Shaddai etc.
According to the Bible, Allah is not Yahweh etc...
Which is right? Let the pissing contest commence!
jesuriah 1 year ago
in that verse show that the churches have the virgin amry idols and jesus idols in it..so it is in the other verse that says christian take their saints as gods.. becoz they have idols of them in the churches..admit it christianity is nothing more than idol worshippers and then they claim they worship god...how come there are no idol of the father or the holy spirit , they only existed in painting as an old man wit some light behind his head and look like zeus ~~!!
setias16 1 year ago
JESUS IS HUMAN. GOD IS GOD. TRINITY IS AN INVENTED IDEA. WAKE UP!!
zatoichiable 1 year ago
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AsHwH 1 year ago
This is what I've done, I stand back watch people in their religious ways of life and I found Christians are not so faithful to YAH. I notice Muslims are very faithful not matter with the EVIL man had do to them they still pray to ALLAH which is the same GOD that Christians suppose to be faithful to. I got tired of Christians pretending to be all so HOLY and they are the most FAKE ASS people I ever seen in my life. Look what's going on with Biship Long and the Catholics
QueenEiliYAH 1 year ago
Allah is only an adjective describing Muslim god. In Christianity, GOD is the name. You can call me ignorant. You can call me stupid. But that's the truth. Allah cannot be God. God cannot be Allah. The bible teaches God isn't tempted by evil, but the quran teaches Allah is the author of evil. MY God is not a liar. He is not a deceiver. And He teaches me that the only way into Heaven is by faith in him and his grace. Not that i have to eat certain foods or pray facing a certain place. It's stupid
zackyj19 1 year ago
@zackyj19 you said :"The bible teaches God isn't tempted by evil,"
lol learn your bible your god was tempted by evil in "Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil...."
SOON619 1 year ago
I am not arguing that allah means god, what I'm telling everyone is that allah is not Yahweh because Yahweh is not Al-Makr, change his mind, is the best of the deceivers.. all these names that are associated for allah by the quran are the names given to Satan. Yahweh does not deceive his people He Loves Us and wants us to return to him. Is it true that one way to be gurantee Paradise for a Muslim is to become a Martyr? Kill in the name of allah?
satancreatedallah 1 year ago
islam is a sect of christianity
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
i dont get why these christians mis represent islamic concepts on God, and the way to heaven. the narrator says only through martydom can muslims enter paradise". this is not an islamic teaching. they say we dont know grace?they say that we Consider God to be very distant from, us, when the Quran States Allah is nearer to you that your Jugular vein.and of course we have rules on what we are allowed and what we are forbiden to do. any civilization does.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
this is a lie why do the muslim pray 5 times a day to come closed to your lord stop listening to these people tells lies Allah is you lord MUSLIM4LIFE
muhammadismyson99 1 year ago
Allah is not Elohim but Satan. This cult is a locust from the dessert who is mentioned in the Holy Bible. If this cult was from GOD we would not see these muslims killing humans to enter what Satan offers them, virgins, wine etc. NONSENSE it is all carnal desires that Satan throws at dogs for attraction.
satancreatedallah 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah who said that every muslim that kills a nopn muslim will enter paradise. the Killing is on the battle field, not on trains planes buses and public buildings. and only as a defensive not an offenseive, or aggressive attack. but the media keeps that part from you. and the bible does prophesis that the arabs would have a Prophet. would you like refrences.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah isaiah 21:13, the burden upon arabia, isaiah mentions this after having seen the vision of a chariot of Asses(donkeys) the chariot of Asses turned out to be Jesus pbuh who entered jerusalem on two donkeys (mathew 21:7) who then was the chariot of camels refering to in the same vision?it can be none other that the prophet muhammed pbuh who came about 600 years after Jesus, and entered into mecca on the back of a camel...
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah he (Muahmmed pbuh) shined forth from mount paran (in arabia), and he came with ten thousand saints deuteronamy 33:2 (refering to the conquest of mecca. also deuteronamy32:21
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER You are taking the bible totally out of context. The Holy Bible doesn't talk about muhammad, unless you read the book of revelation where it talks about the Antichrist and Satan. Allah is not Yahweh of the Bible but Satan and his only prophet is muhammad. I'm not trying to cause trouble I'm telling you the Truth.
satancreatedallah 1 year ago 2
@satancreatedallah Well the evidence doesnt support what you are saying. so anybody can make accusations against anybody but with no evidence, all they are are accusations. if the quran is from satan, there would be not even a shred of good in it, where as it is All Good. it would have many contradictions, there is not 1, others would be able to imitate it, but not even one has come close. again you can make further accusaqtions but they are just acusations.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah Just because a ferw muslims around the world, do some crazy lunatic things, you think that is the religion. if we were to apply that rule to any belief structure,we can deny all of them even non belief. and yes especially christianity. the Prophet Muhammed in his life has never done anything immoral or unjust, and anything otherwise is being ignorent to facts and accusations. the only way nybody can say anything bad about the prophet of the one God, is if they use sumfin false
JEMOMER 1 year ago