How come geet.com doesn't exist anymore? Lots of adventurous builders, but, where is Paul? Where is Geet. And, how about the electrostatic interference that will probably knock out the computer on a modern car?
@arealtreat google GEET International for Paul's website. There is a large group of researchers at the yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger. You could be right about interference. In the past, some GEETs have output RF at certain frequencies used by military RADAR and FAA transpoders and they came to find the source. The frequency seems to change with applied vacuum, engine rpm, GEET pipes' sizes, etc. Paul Pantone says found a way to shield the RF from escaping but it is proprietary to GEET.
@2:36...very nice trick hiding a magnet in the end of the copper pipe. Copper is a non-ferrous metal and will not attract a compass needle. I've looked into these energy scams for over 35 years. Oh I now see comments must be approved. Doubtful I'll see this....LOL
@KJVWordofGod The laugh is on you. These are steel pipes. I'm showing the remnant magnetic fields that change in the steel after running the GEET. I'm a senior staff engineer at a very large very high tech company. This is not a free energy scam. But automakers are scamming the public by not installing plasma fuel reformers on production cars even decades after JPL and Caltech proved to the SAE that they work well for cleaner air and better gas mileage.
@narivasant LOL....I am complimented that you approved my comment even though I exposed your little gag. In all these "Geet" videos and articles I note that not one of them has any scientific explanation for the so called "plasma" reaction. How about a formula? Your a tech guy right? Like (hp*33k=ftlbs/min)? Or more relevant in this case V=k*([q1*q2]/r)? Is the formula for the process a super secret? How do I get into the club? Is there a secret handshake?
@KJVWordofGod If you want to join the club go to the yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger. That is where other research scientists and engineers like myself study the GEET fuel reformer. But you won't get much out of it unless you can give up your prejudices and negative preconceived ideas.
@babbymeister Yes, people have tried it and it didn't work. Seems like a weak field works better. Glass rods have worked also. The remnant magnetic field seems to be good only for indicating that the vortexing of partially ionized gases created a magnetic field but trying to force a field with a magnetized rod seems to stop it from working.
@price5941 Yes, it is worth a try as long as there is a very good electrical connection between the inner steel and outer copper pipes. It needs a good return current path to work well.
You're correct in that some machining may be required to achieve proper tolerances. All depends on materials being used. Also some steel electrical conduits may be seamless.
A GEET reactor is a type of plasma fuel reformer. Google search "plasma fuel reformer" The GEET is unique in that it doesn't require an external power supply. It develops electrostatic potential similar thunderclouds. It is also unique in that it is documented to transmute atomic elements ,some unknown form of nuclear reaction, not a hot fusion or hot fission reaction.
@narivasant The science of this is beyond me, but from what I gather you're modifying a normal petrol or diesel engine so that it runs on 80% water, correct? How does this work? In a normal engine, it's the ignition of the petrol that creates an explosion which forces the piston down, which in turn drives the crankshaft. Water doesn't ignite, so how does it generate any force to push the pistons?
@Zlyzer Do a google search for "steam reforming" and study it. Do a google search of "plasma fuel reformer" and study it. Heat energy in the engine exhaust is converted to shorter chain fuel molecules which have more potential energy than the same mass made of longer chain molecules. The extra energy came from the heat that was absorbed in the endothermic chemical reaction. Auto makers have many patents for them but won't sell a car with one.
First the fuel vapours must be electrically ionized and then magnetic fields can deflect them. The GEET fuel reformer builds up electrostatic charge from its operation but other designs use an external power source. Here's a somewhat similar design from Drexel University:
A fuel vapourizer just vapourizes fuel but a fuel reformer uses an endothermic chemical reaction that cracks the fuel into shorter chain hydrocarbons and hydrogen and that has higher potential energy than the same mass of molecules in long hydrocarbon chains. The gained energy is the exhaust heat energy absorbed in the reaction.
google: "plasma fuel reformer" and "steam reforming"
or go to the link in the upper right text description of this video.
Some people get great results with stainless tubes and even a stainless rod but everything needs to be very smooth.
People who have tried magnets do not get any fuel reforming, just vapourizing. It works better with the magnetic fields that develop naturally. I now find it is better to have all parts with no magnetic fields rather than turning premagnetized tubes the correct orientation.
Even stainless tubes and rod get magnetized after running the hot exhaust through outer tube during use.
Then could you weld everything together, expose it to a very strong de-gaussing coil, then let it re-magnitize as you indicate it does after running. How about not using magnets but magnitizing the tubes with strong coils? If magnetized tubes are important, it shouldn't matter in the end how they become magnetized. Yes/No?
I think that the heat difference and the opposite direction of travel of the gases automatically magnetize the metal molecules, speeding the gases past the speed of sound, breaking apart the molecules of whatever fuel you put in.
yes, the output from a wood gasifier can be combined with water vapours and both sent through a GEET fuel reformer. The GEET can also run with 100% ethyl alcohol vapours and water vapours
If electric welding is used then all the reactor needs to be heated with a flame or a kiln to a dull red in the dark which will erase the magnetic fields left from electric welding.
I notice the pipe in this vid looks like copper,so is copper pipe ok to use? Also for theinner rod would a copper clad rod like a ground rod work as well?
Are steel. Only seen steel or stainless steel work for tubes & only if remnant magnetic fields are minimal before their first use.
I heard Pantone once tried copper for inner tube but I never heard if it worked for him. GEET training videos say the tubes and rod should have iron in them.
The rod to be regular steel or iron. Some have tried stainless steel rod. I haven't heard if that worked. Rod or pipes, preferably both need to save remnant magnetic fields from use, but copper can't do that
If inner tube is too thick there will not be good heat transfer.
If tubes have inner weld ridge, vapours are blocked from swirling, but they need to swirl.
In the video it says to orient the magnetized tubes correctly but it is actually much better to heat them up with a torch to a dull red to remove magnetic fields.
Best magnetic field positions, orientations develop running with an engine.
After using heat to remove magnetic fields, when everything is assembled, the inner rod nose must point South the first time it is used with an engine so the rod and tubes develop the correct magnetic fields
hi, good video, you can also de magnetize any metal by passing it through an A/C wire coil, and re align magnetic north to suite by passing a styrong magnet one way up the body of the metals... just a bit of info from my past... thom scotland.
Thanks Nari, I may not say much in the group but I read every post and regard all comments highly.. You, Paul, and several others provide a great service to the planet. Best to you , Ja
How come geet.com doesn't exist anymore? Lots of adventurous builders, but, where is Paul? Where is Geet. And, how about the electrostatic interference that will probably knock out the computer on a modern car?
arealtreat 3 weeks ago
@arealtreat google GEET International for Paul's website. There is a large group of researchers at the yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger. You could be right about interference. In the past, some GEETs have output RF at certain frequencies used by military RADAR and FAA transpoders and they came to find the source. The frequency seems to change with applied vacuum, engine rpm, GEET pipes' sizes, etc. Paul Pantone says found a way to shield the RF from escaping but it is proprietary to GEET.
narivasant 3 weeks ago
@2:36...very nice trick hiding a magnet in the end of the copper pipe. Copper is a non-ferrous metal and will not attract a compass needle. I've looked into these energy scams for over 35 years. Oh I now see comments must be approved. Doubtful I'll see this....LOL
KJVWordofGod 1 month ago
@KJVWordofGod The laugh is on you. These are steel pipes. I'm showing the remnant magnetic fields that change in the steel after running the GEET. I'm a senior staff engineer at a very large very high tech company. This is not a free energy scam. But automakers are scamming the public by not installing plasma fuel reformers on production cars even decades after JPL and Caltech proved to the SAE that they work well for cleaner air and better gas mileage.
narivasant 1 month ago
@narivasant LOL....I am complimented that you approved my comment even though I exposed your little gag. In all these "Geet" videos and articles I note that not one of them has any scientific explanation for the so called "plasma" reaction. How about a formula? Your a tech guy right? Like (hp*33k=ftlbs/min)? Or more relevant in this case V=k*([q1*q2]/r)? Is the formula for the process a super secret? How do I get into the club? Is there a secret handshake?
KJVWordofGod 1 month ago
@KJVWordofGod If you want to join the club go to the yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger. That is where other research scientists and engineers like myself study the GEET fuel reformer. But you won't get much out of it unless you can give up your prejudices and negative preconceived ideas.
narivasant 1 month ago
Have tried or heard about anyone using a rod with a stronger magnetfield like neodymium?
Do you think it can increase efficiency of the GEET?
babbymeister 1 month ago
@babbymeister Yes, people have tried it and it didn't work. Seems like a weak field works better. Glass rods have worked also. The remnant magnetic field seems to be good only for indicating that the vortexing of partially ionized gases created a magnetic field but trying to force a field with a magnetized rod seems to stop it from working.
narivasant 1 month ago
has anyone tried using a copper outer with a steel core? Is it worth a try or am I barking up the wrong tree?
price5941 11 months ago
@price5941 Yes, it is worth a try as long as there is a very good electrical connection between the inner steel and outer copper pipes. It needs a good return current path to work well.
narivasant 11 months ago
You're correct in that some machining may be required to achieve proper tolerances. All depends on materials being used. Also some steel electrical conduits may be seamless.
HemilGremil 1 year ago
this may be a stupid question,bit what is the purpose of that?
thereaperorsutch 1 year ago
@thereaperorsutch
A GEET reactor is a type of plasma fuel reformer. Google search "plasma fuel reformer" The GEET is unique in that it doesn't require an external power supply. It develops electrostatic potential similar thunderclouds. It is also unique in that it is documented to transmute atomic elements ,some unknown form of nuclear reaction, not a hot fusion or hot fission reaction.
Find out more about the GEET here:
tech.groups.yahoo. com/group/VortexHeatExchanger/
remove the spaces
narivasant 1 year ago
@narivasant thank you for explaining!!!
thereaperorsutch 1 year ago
@narivasant The science of this is beyond me, but from what I gather you're modifying a normal petrol or diesel engine so that it runs on 80% water, correct? How does this work? In a normal engine, it's the ignition of the petrol that creates an explosion which forces the piston down, which in turn drives the crankshaft. Water doesn't ignite, so how does it generate any force to push the pistons?
Zlyzer 2 months ago
@Zlyzer Do a google search for "steam reforming" and study it. Do a google search of "plasma fuel reformer" and study it. Heat energy in the engine exhaust is converted to shorter chain fuel molecules which have more potential energy than the same mass made of longer chain molecules. The extra energy came from the heat that was absorbed in the endothermic chemical reaction. Auto makers have many patents for them but won't sell a car with one.
google: yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger
narivasant 2 months ago
less pollution going into my lungs.
bluefly46 1 year ago
How does the Magneticfield have any influance on fuel?
Welcome2SweetLife 2 years ago
@Welcome2SweetLife
First the fuel vapours must be electrically ionized and then magnetic fields can deflect them. The GEET fuel reformer builds up electrostatic charge from its operation but other designs use an external power source. Here's a somewhat similar design from Drexel University:
mechse.uiuc. edu/research/glumac/NSFW/Fridman.pdf
paste the link in your browser and then remove the extra spaces.
narivasant 2 years ago
can someone tell me like really quick and short, what is this thingy? :P
MariusGuitar2007 2 years ago
It is one kind of plasma fuel reformer.
A fuel vapourizer just vapourizes fuel but a fuel reformer uses an endothermic chemical reaction that cracks the fuel into shorter chain hydrocarbons and hydrogen and that has higher potential energy than the same mass of molecules in long hydrocarbon chains. The gained energy is the exhaust heat energy absorbed in the reaction.
google: "plasma fuel reformer" and "steam reforming"
or go to the link in the upper right text description of this video.
narivasant 2 years ago
where to find this plans? can u please post a link.
vshart 2 years ago
There is a link under my user name at the upper right of the youtube web page for this video.
You can click where it says "more info" to see it better.
or do a google search for:
VortexHeatExchanger
and you will see a link to the yahoo group where many experimenters talk about this type of fuel reformer.
narivasant 2 years ago
would Stainless cylinder and a Neodymium rod work?
vinmorin 2 years ago
Some people get great results with stainless tubes and even a stainless rod but everything needs to be very smooth.
People who have tried magnets do not get any fuel reforming, just vapourizing. It works better with the magnetic fields that develop naturally. I now find it is better to have all parts with no magnetic fields rather than turning premagnetized tubes the correct orientation.
Even stainless tubes and rod get magnetized after running the hot exhaust through outer tube during use.
narivasant 2 years ago
Then could you weld everything together, expose it to a very strong de-gaussing coil, then let it re-magnitize as you indicate it does after running. How about not using magnets but magnitizing the tubes with strong coils? If magnetized tubes are important, it shouldn't matter in the end how they become magnetized. Yes/No?
ipromisenot 2 years ago
I think that the heat difference and the opposite direction of travel of the gases automatically magnetize the metal molecules, speeding the gases past the speed of sound, breaking apart the molecules of whatever fuel you put in.
joelito101 2 years ago
Can a geet modified engine run completely free of fossil fuels? eg, ethanol or some other fuel? I'm thinking as far out as wood pulp...
librano 2 years ago
yes, the output from a wood gasifier can be combined with water vapours and both sent through a GEET fuel reformer. The GEET can also run with 100% ethyl alcohol vapours and water vapours
narivasant 2 years ago
I've heard of kids running it on mountain dew.
joelito101 2 years ago
Is there even one video anywhere of a geet powered engine producing it's designed hp ? why are they all "unloaded" tests ?
port flow maybe ?( it's all in the math)
and if ice forms on the exhaust port as touted how dose it keep cracking the fuel ? , where did you get the heat to do it ?
robbosdog 2 years ago
GEET mowing tall grass:
youtube. com/watch?v=DpqTMjRV5VY
Helicopter with flight time increase from 4.5 hr to 6hr:
perso. orange. fr/quanthommesuite/helico1. htm
video. google. fr/videoplay?docid=1250183205287371141
video. google. fr/videoplay?docid=1489924129552184014
remove extra spaces in the links
narivasant 2 years ago
i wanna kno... why the gloves?
girrrrrrr2 3 years ago
because my hands are so hairy and ugly it would distract from the video
narivasant 3 years ago
which welding process is best for not disturbing the magnetizm?>
carbednotch 3 years ago
Flame welding is best.
If electric welding is used then all the reactor needs to be heated with a flame or a kiln to a dull red in the dark which will erase the magnetic fields left from electric welding.
narivasant 3 years ago
I notice the pipe in this vid looks like copper,so is copper pipe ok to use? Also for theinner rod would a copper clad rod like a ground rod work as well?
docscot11 3 years ago
Are steel. Only seen steel or stainless steel work for tubes & only if remnant magnetic fields are minimal before their first use.
I heard Pantone once tried copper for inner tube but I never heard if it worked for him. GEET training videos say the tubes and rod should have iron in them.
The rod to be regular steel or iron. Some have tried stainless steel rod. I haven't heard if that worked. Rod or pipes, preferably both need to save remnant magnetic fields from use, but copper can't do that
narivasant 3 years ago
will scafflding polls work well?
MIKEandNADIA 3 years ago
If tubes are steel or stainless steel.
Tubes must be at least slightly ferromagnetic.
If inner tube is too thick there will not be good heat transfer.
If tubes have inner weld ridge, vapours are blocked from swirling, but they need to swirl.
In the video it says to orient the magnetized tubes correctly but it is actually much better to heat them up with a torch to a dull red to remove magnetic fields.
Best magnetic field positions, orientations develop running with an engine.
narivasant 3 years ago
After using heat to remove magnetic fields, when everything is assembled, the inner rod nose must point South the first time it is used with an engine so the rod and tubes develop the correct magnetic fields
narivasant 3 years ago
being magnetized too strongly may stop it from working.
narivasant 3 years ago
hi, good video, you can also de magnetize any metal by passing it through an A/C wire coil, and re align magnetic north to suite by passing a styrong magnet one way up the body of the metals... just a bit of info from my past... thom scotland.
NEON271156 3 years ago
oh thanks
davinpilling 3 years ago
Thanks Nari, I may not say much in the group but I read every post and regard all comments highly.. You, Paul, and several others provide a great service to the planet. Best to you , Ja
jabrinka99 3 years ago