@Homer101010 The point is still the huge and insane price to host pre-recorded TV shows, on a basic style app, dont forget it comes out of our pockets to pay for this bullshite.
Could Mark Thompson please instruct his staff who run the I Player to adopt some courtesy towards license payers and actually flash up a message on screen saying sorry when they can't download a programme because it is too busy? Otherwise one is left wondering if the problem is the I Player itself!
The iPlayer service has been getting worse and worse each day. HD content is published inconsistently, programmes appear then magically disappear immediately without explanation, radio programmes are all over the place - it's a stinking mess. That's what you get for allowing this PUBIC corporation to become annexed by an American private company like Microsoft.
It's not just the site that sucks, it's the Windows-based back-end technology, and the BBC's attitude. Many useful projects have been neutered by the BBC's Draconian policies, including MyPlayer (Android), get_iplayer (multiplatform), and MythTV (Linux).
The BBC's charter is supposed to guarantee uninhibited access, so I really don't understand how they can be allowed to use DRM, or prevent other software accessing the site.
And another thing I find appalling, is the BBC's claim they need to use DRM to satisfy their "content providers" demands.
What "content providers"? I thought the BBC was it's OWN "content provider". When did this happen, exactly?
Why do we pay a BBC tax, if they're just going to give those public funds to private contractors? Shouldn't that be illegal? If the BBC is now just another private corporation, then they should only receive private funding, and not a mandatory "license" tax. Simple.
You're a bit late with your comment. This video was uploaded before full GNU/Linux support was offered.
And even now iPlayer is still proprietary software using patent encumbered codecs and Digital Restrictions Management, so lacks the flexibility of watching programmes on other devices (e.g. transfer to an iPod).
The BBC developed their own patent-free multimedia codec called Dirac. Why aren't they using it, instead of supporting Microsoft's intellectual monopoly racket?
the Iplayer is so c**p, wetha it cost £20m or £130m thats r hard earned money bein nicked of us by thse b*****ds thru r tv licences, hav u seen how much those f*****s cost? TOO MUCH, da bbc is s'pose 2 b a democracy ruled by da brit public e.g. if we say we wanna c such n such we are s'pose to get it (being the 1s that fund them) bt now they go n spend r money on ths shit, a service 4 peep who cant get nuff tele.. on tele so they need it online 2!!!, now frm 25/6/08 thy makin a new version CRAP!
Or better yet, the BBC's /own/ Free codec, "Dirac".
It amazes me the the Beeb would spend all that money; effort; and skill developing an advanced coded like Dirac, then piss it all away on Microsoft Slopware ... at the British taxpayers' expense too!
Least BBC iPlayer actually works on Macs, Channel 4's service 4OD (4 On Demand) doesn't even work on Macs at all. What's more is the BBC also developed iPlayer so it would work on Apple's iPhone. So they can't be that Microsoft dominated surely?
MSBBC's "work" to make content available for the iPhone, consisted of adding an MP4 profile to their transcoding workflow, and adding the links to their website. It must've taken them all of 5 minutes.
Certainly this means I can now view the content on Linux, although the MSBBC brand me as a "pirate" and a "hacker" for doing so (their definition of "hacker" being "following URLs and downloading the files those URLs point to"), even though they're quite happy to take my money in TV license tax.
Who's this guy questioning them. He's rather unusually well informed for someone from the house of commons. Suggesting bittorrent, the thing wrongly seen as a massive hub for piracy is quite refreshing!
Here's what Wikipedia says about Dr. John Pugh MP:
"Amongst John Pugh's campaigning interests is public sector IT, specifically around the role Open Source Software might play. Dr Pugh has argued that the public sector could reduce costs by increasing use of Open Source Software [3] and has accused the BBC of effectively giving Microsoft illegal state aid in only making their iPlayer download service available on Windows computers."
They should see exactly what it feels like to run 32 bit crap code of Flash on a 64 bit Linux machine. What assholes the BBC are. The Windows media codecs are just a bunch of lock-in codecs so you use Micro$oft.
The BBC wanted a minimum of 2 years to get the download system running on Mac & Linux from the Window$ launch, good job they were told no sodding way!
£130m! Fuck me! Has this guy never heard of Bittorrent? That's a perfectly efficient system to allow the downloading (and seeding) of even legit files, and guess what Mark Thompson, it's free!
But no, he runs some stupid Future Media & Technology section as well and can spend all our money for the same reason a dog licks its balls - because it can!
20 million or so to make a site which hosts pre recorded tv shows? WTF? thats bullshite!
Stop making excuses to hide your purchases of learjets, property and roll royces you fucking pile of scumbags.
and for everytime you say "Ah ah, uh uh" i should shove a fucking TV licence letter down your throat.
clitmint 1 year ago
@clitmint
Actually the cost was more like 130 million. See Groklaw article 20080120181708684 for details.
Homer101010 1 year ago
@Homer101010 The point is still the huge and insane price to host pre-recorded TV shows, on a basic style app, dont forget it comes out of our pockets to pay for this bullshite.
clitmint 1 year ago
Could Mark Thompson please instruct his staff who run the I Player to adopt some courtesy towards license payers and actually flash up a message on screen saying sorry when they can't download a programme because it is too busy? Otherwise one is left wondering if the problem is the I Player itself!
MrBabies123 1 year ago
@MrBabies123
The iPlayer service has been getting worse and worse each day. HD content is published inconsistently, programmes appear then magically disappear immediately without explanation, radio programmes are all over the place - it's a stinking mess. That's what you get for allowing this PUBIC corporation to become annexed by an American private company like Microsoft.
Homer101010 1 year ago
The iplayer site sux btw, the layout is appauling + who the fuck wants to "watch" a radio programme.
If they got rid of DRM + streamed everything ever made it would be awesome.
Corrupt5358 1 year ago
@Corrupt5358
It's not just the site that sucks, it's the Windows-based back-end technology, and the BBC's attitude. Many useful projects have been neutered by the BBC's Draconian policies, including MyPlayer (Android), get_iplayer (multiplatform), and MythTV (Linux).
The BBC's charter is supposed to guarantee uninhibited access, so I really don't understand how they can be allowed to use DRM, or prevent other software accessing the site.
Homer101010 1 year ago
And another thing I find appalling, is the BBC's claim they need to use DRM to satisfy their "content providers" demands.
What "content providers"? I thought the BBC was it's OWN "content provider". When did this happen, exactly?
Why do we pay a BBC tax, if they're just going to give those public funds to private contractors? Shouldn't that be illegal? If the BBC is now just another private corporation, then they should only receive private funding, and not a mandatory "license" tax. Simple.
Homer101010 1 year ago
iPlayer is actually pretty bloody good, why the bother?
userblue 1 year ago
@userblue
You're a bit late with your comment. This video was uploaded before full GNU/Linux support was offered.
And even now iPlayer is still proprietary software using patent encumbered codecs and Digital Restrictions Management, so lacks the flexibility of watching programmes on other devices (e.g. transfer to an iPod).
The BBC developed their own patent-free multimedia codec called Dirac. Why aren't they using it, instead of supporting Microsoft's intellectual monopoly racket?
Homer101010 1 year ago
Introducing Ashley Highfield: Mr Conflict Of Interest.
Previously CEO of Project Kangaroo... halted by the Competition Commission.
Was Director of New Media and Technology at the BBC, launched the iPlayer... courted controversy by launching the iPlayer only on Windows...
Now UK Managing Director of Microsoft (Consumer & Online)
A Governor of the British Film Institute.
Recently appointed to the Conservative Partys review of the Creative Industries. Influencing Conservative policy.
Keruaran 2 years ago
hilarious. erm erm uh uh piece of crap- could of used torrents ffs
xTROJANxX 3 years ago
Why ca?n't BBC bods speak plain English?
DaisyBarrass1950 3 years ago
Who is paying their wage ? Microsoft or the taxpayer ?
If they love working for Microsoft's interests so much, give them their marching orders and tell them to apply for a job at Microsoft.
Keruaran 3 years ago
the Iplayer is so c**p, wetha it cost £20m or £130m thats r hard earned money bein nicked of us by thse b*****ds thru r tv licences, hav u seen how much those f*****s cost? TOO MUCH, da bbc is s'pose 2 b a democracy ruled by da brit public e.g. if we say we wanna c such n such we are s'pose to get it (being the 1s that fund them) bt now they go n spend r money on ths shit, a service 4 peep who cant get nuff tele.. on tele so they need it online 2!!!, now frm 25/6/08 thy makin a new version CRAP!
JeekTheOtherOne 3 years ago
Fuck these bastards.
horneyvirus 3 years ago 2
Good work fella check out my Mark Thompson vid - I might with your permission nick some of your film to add ti yt um ah err um ahh
philmax9 3 years ago
if they are for availability why not use theora?
GegoXaren 3 years ago
Or better yet, the BBC's /own/ Free codec, "Dirac".
It amazes me the the Beeb would spend all that money; effort; and skill developing an advanced coded like Dirac, then piss it all away on Microsoft Slopware ... at the British taxpayers' expense too!
Unbelievable.
Unbelievably Corrupt.
Homer101010 3 years ago
What the hell is this guy doing running a £4bn corporation, madness.
pooh1234567890 3 years ago 4
Least BBC iPlayer actually works on Macs, Channel 4's service 4OD (4 On Demand) doesn't even work on Macs at all. What's more is the BBC also developed iPlayer so it would work on Apple's iPhone. So they can't be that Microsoft dominated surely?
hillendskier 3 years ago
MSBBC's "work" to make content available for the iPhone, consisted of adding an MP4 profile to their transcoding workflow, and adding the links to their website. It must've taken them all of 5 minutes.
Certainly this means I can now view the content on Linux, although the MSBBC brand me as a "pirate" and a "hacker" for doing so (their definition of "hacker" being "following URLs and downloading the files those URLs point to"), even though they're quite happy to take my money in TV license tax.
Homer101010 3 years ago
Who's this guy questioning them. He's rather unusually well informed for someone from the house of commons. Suggesting bittorrent, the thing wrongly seen as a massive hub for piracy is quite refreshing!
ziggyzaggy06 4 years ago 5
Here's what Wikipedia says about Dr. John Pugh MP:
"Amongst John Pugh's campaigning interests is public sector IT, specifically around the role Open Source Software might play. Dr Pugh has argued that the public sector could reduce costs by increasing use of Open Source Software [3] and has accused the BBC of effectively giving Microsoft illegal state aid in only making their iPlayer download service available on Windows computers."
Homer101010 4 years ago
They should see exactly what it feels like to run 32 bit crap code of Flash on a 64 bit Linux machine. What assholes the BBC are. The Windows media codecs are just a bunch of lock-in codecs so you use Micro$oft.
blimey2 4 years ago 6
Patronising gits don't care as they are guaranteed our money anyway.
MurunB 4 years ago 4
Watch the beardy one squirm! Hahahahaha!
dvddom 4 years ago
The BBC wanted a minimum of 2 years to get the download system running on Mac & Linux from the Window$ launch, good job they were told no sodding way!
mustard990 4 years ago 2
£130m! Fuck me! Has this guy never heard of Bittorrent? That's a perfectly efficient system to allow the downloading (and seeding) of even legit files, and guess what Mark Thompson, it's free!
But no, he runs some stupid Future Media & Technology section as well and can spend all our money for the same reason a dog licks its balls - because it can!
dvddom 4 years ago