Wow most of you are failing to realize this is not a religion topic, this is a unconstitutional act committed by the court. This stomped on the freedom of religion, now what? We can't. See family because of what we believe in? Are you kidding me, that's the most absurd thing I ever heard.
@TheCashmoney1234567 It does somewhat have to do with religion. Because the religious propagate this whole anti-atheist/agnostic feeling in America at least. It is the religion that promotes it, so obviously there is a huge bias. But yes the court ruling is in direct violation of the constitution. The judgment was obviously based off a religious stand point, which is why the judgment was unconstitutional.
Fuck Christians! Why Does It Mattter That a Person is a Certain Religion, Prejudice assholes! And Yes, Troll This Fucking Comment as Much as You Like, As Far as any Of You Uptight Prejudice Nazi Fucks, Im Burning In Hell!
Church and state is now connected? Interesting. So if you don't believe in the invisible ET, out in the clouds, you don't deserve children? I better read Peter Pan again, may help me in a court of law.
its just a phase Americans are going through. Apparently if you are atheist you are rational but anyway if the woman is Christian she should know the importance of family and need of father in their lives. The wife is just using the religion as a tool.
lol the wife even has a boyfriend. that's forbidden in Christianity.
@razaa09 Yes, you're correct in saying that fornication is a sin. However, having a boyfriend or girlfriend does not equal fornication. You can have a meaningful relationship without sex. How else do you find a future spouse if you never ever date? You have to get to know the person, and their personality, temperament, etc.
@TheWindsBreath well yeah I agree taht you have to know the indivisual before you marry them but spending time with them in a cafe or goingout for a dinner doesnt mean you are in a relationship. how often you hear that two people are couple and they haven't touched each other yet? Christianity has gone down the drain.
@razaa09 There are a lot of Christians (myself included) that earnestly seek relationships without sex before marriage. Christianity hasn't gone down the drain, people's self control has. It is possible to be with someone without sleeping with them.
@TheWindsBreath yeah but you cant kiss them or hug them. In christianity women aere suppose to dress the way Muslim women and Jewish women dress. Walk into a church and you will images of Mary where her head is covered but today there are strippers who have a cross around their neck. Girls are walking around wearing skirts, there are bikinis and thongs lol.
@razaa09 What Bible are you reading? Where does it say you can't kiss or hug a person? And where does it say that Christian women are supposed to dress like Muslim or Jewish (who, by the way, do not dress alike) women?
"Walk into a church and you will [see] images of Mary where her head is covered..."You're talking about a Roman Catholic or Orthodox Catholic church. Protestant churches don't have that, and just because Mary is veiled doesn't mean all Christian women have to.
@razaa09 A lot of women who dress provocatively wear the cross while wearing a bikini - but so do men who lie and cheat on their wives. So do deceivers, fornicators, etc. The point is that all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. We all need Jesus. Being a Christian doesn't mean you're automatically a perfect person with your nose looking down on others...it means you have Jesus helping you to make the right decisions.
@TheWindsBreath if you don't want people to cheat on their wives, and make sure that teenagers do no commit fornication then first you have to make sure that you daughter does not wear a skirt or a bikini. If you are not following or even attempting to follow Christian values then stop calling yourself Christian.
@razaa09 No you don't. It's called SELF CONTROL. If I want to wear a pair of shorts in the summer time (which I do), I'm going to wear a pair of shorts. I am not going to go out and fornicate because I have some leg showing! How dare you say I'm not following Christian values when it is clear you don't have a good grasp on what Christian values are. Being a Christian doesn't mean I dress like a 16th century Puritan who doesn't watch TV or listen to secular music.
@razaa09 Being a Christians means I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and emulate him in my life. It means I try to be a light to a dark world, and it means that I earnestly seek God in all that I do. Please find me a chapter and verse in the Bible that contradicts anything I said. I was raised in a Christian home, and went to Christian schools my entire life. I KNOW the Bible, and have been guided by several Godly men and women in my life. I'll wait for your proof though.
@TheWindsBreath Brother look, the way you act-the way you talk to other people-the way you eat and drink-the way you treat your young and elders...all these things also matter. The first step is to believe in Jesus Christ PBUH and then you follow his path. Just saying that "yeah i believe in Jesus" and then go and commit adultery or fornication is ridiculous. How are you a believer then?........My words are not directed towards you; I hope you realize that :)
@razaa09 PBUH? He's not dead, Jesus is alive. PBUH is a Muslim saying using after saying the name of Muhammad, the founder of Islam.
The first step is to believe in Jesus, yes. And listening to elders, obeying God's commands, etc. are all also important. However, just because a person fornicates once or commits adultery once doesn't mean they're not Christian anymore. Repentance and asking God's forgiveness are what's important. Earnest repentance is what counts - not just saying sorry
@razaa09 But meaning it. That's what's important. As we follow Christ more and try to be more like him, we a light to a dark world that needs God. So wearing shorts or a short skirt doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. When I went on my missions trip in 2008, several of the children and adults we evangelized to wore shorts and skirts. Does that mean their conversions weren't real, or that they're not Christians? Christianity is orthodox (belief in correct practice) rather than orthopractic.
@TheWindsBreath you have to practice what you believe. You can't just pick one. Plus Jesus Christ PBUH did not even write the bible and there is a new bible out everyday. How do you even know what did Jesus Christ said?
@razaa09 I'm not sure why you keep saying PBUH after you say Jesus Christ, but ok. Of course Jesus didn't write the Bible. His apostles wrote the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), Paul wrote the epistles (Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Etc.) and John wrote the book of Revelation. His apostles knew what he said. Archaeologists say it takes 2 generations for a story (passed orally as I'm sure Jesus' was) to get misconstrued.
@razaa09 Look up chronology of Jessu on Wiki, it won't let me post the link <-- Archaeological estimations for the writing of the gospels. There aren't new Bibles out everyday, there are new translations/versions. It is really semantics, and if you really want the original Bible it exists in its primary languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic.
@TheWindsBreath Jesus PBUH never even wrote the bible. Moreover the most popular bible followed today is of the King James version which came out 1400 years after Jesus Christ PBUH. You can`t just pick and choose what you like and edit out the stuff you do not.
Most Dad's share 50-50 custody? Yeah right. Both my parent's are atheist, and my Mom still got major custody, and my Dad only got every other weekend and Wednesday's. My mom actually called the cops on me for trying to not go on a trip with her and the cops made me go with her, and I wanted to stay with my dad for longer when it was actually his day to have me and I still had to go with that fascist bitch! Fuck custody laws, give kids 10 and up the right to transfer custody between parents!
If this story unfolded the way this guy is "reporting", then its not right. What really bothers me,however, is how this guy (I don't know his name and I don't want to) seems to go out of his way to portray Christians in an unfavorable light. Maybe thats why he's stuck on the internet.
He doesnt portray all Christians in a bad way, he only throws the ones under the bus who would split up a father and his kids because of their religion.
True Christians would not get in the way of a father and his children. jenk (thats his name) only goes after people who are being unfair or promoting inequality. which seems pretty fair to me if im honest.
@grant11102 First of all, Im a Christian, but Icertainly dont advocate taking a mans children away from him because he is not. Im inclined to believe that there's more to this story than a few seconds of a video clip on youtube. "My kids are being taken away from me because I'm not a Christian" is a more sensational story than whatever else may have been a factor (and I've GOT to believe there are other factors). Second of all, Im not one of the twelve people who watch msnbc.
That's fucking disgusting- what the hell is wrong with America? Taking a man's children away because he's agnostic? What next, deporting the non-religious? Killing them? Story makes me want to vomit.
Religions are disgusting and embarrassing. It's horrible we still give stature and respect to these ignorant bronze age cults. We have to end superstition, before it ends us..
Family law is such a nightmare with religious right judges. and the religious right is always complaining about so-called liberal activist judges, what a bunch of hypocrites. For this reason i just could never have an intimate relationship with any kind of fundamentalist, their just to control freak.
Such is the assault on American fathers in all states. In the field of psychology, such action is known as Parental Alienation which is usually attributed to a chaotic parent. Now folks, let us prepare for the next phase of Governmental Alienation : the final intrusion into the family structure and condemnation of American fathers.
If the joint custody were allowed to continue, this man and woman have no moneys to dispute. If the custody is her's she gets money.... very simple equation.
And this is why you don't get into a relationship and/or marriage with a religious person. I have stayed clear of them in romantic relationships all my life and I am quite happy.
But if it is cut to four hours a week and rotating week ends, does than mean that he will not be agnostic those hours? There are many relationships that the people have different religions, and at the rate of divorce, we might as well get used to it.
I bet the judge did not reduced the dad's child support payment. If a dad is unfit to spent time with the child, the mom should be unfit to spent his money.
besides the religious component, this is about father's rights. this is a prime example of how the mother almost always gets the kids regardless, in this case she's a total deadbeat piece of shit, yet she gets carte blanche.
@Zoeres You sound so ignorant. Thomas Jefferson stated that the Bible should be taught in schools. And when they said freedom of religion they really meant that freedom of different denominations of Christianity because, there was a lot of persecution back then by the different denominations. Why do you think many of the early immigrants came here? God made this world for Christians and I guess you will find out the hard way in the next life.
The Government can not promote religion of any denomination in it's laws; be it christian, hindu, non-denomination, or non-faith's. In fact when laws are made religious concederations are forbbiden. (meant interpetation1st amendment)
The Government may not demand any religious test for public office or trust. Meaning no one has to be this christain or non-faith to be acceptable. Not a state right. (meant interpetation of Article 6)
The judge made the right decision. This country and world was made for CHRISTIANS and wheter you belive in God or not; it doesn't matter because you will have to face the truth in the next world
- So thank you judge for trying to give children a fair chance in life. Email me if you want my prayers!
@lilkidgohome2 US was founded by atheists and one of the constitutional rights is freedom or religion. If anyone gets treated differently in law becouse of their religion it is against the constitution.
Besides this world wasn't made for christians even in christian belief you asshole. Ever read the bible? It never seizes to amaze me how christians go on and on about they're untoubtebly right when they constantly contradict their own religion.
@lilkidgohome2 your religion is not the rule of the world....christianity does not dictate all people...and just so you know the US was founded on religious freedom
So religion is fine as long as you stay brainwashed. The moment you have questions or show signs of intelligence the freedom of thought speech religion goes flying out the window? We are not free enough in this country to question fairy tales with a skeptical mind without consequence? This BS is wrong on so many levels. Agnostic is not even non belief it is just a inbetween enlightenment to truth and knowledge. The mother of all knowledge comes from questioning.
Thanks for sharing this ridiculousness. Down with the church!! Down with all organized religion!! Flush your arrogance; The Universe rules all!! There are, and have been for many thousands of years, beings who know and respect these Universal rules. Respect your elders and ancestors for once in your arrogant life!!
This what happens when commissioners hear cases and get away with violating the Constitution/ Bill of Rights 1st amendment because these administrators are not bound by Oath to uphold the Constitution.
So we need to start by asking if the judge or commissioner has an Oath registered in the court where proceeding are being held. If commissioner dodges question, then the concerned party should not let the proceedings continue until proof Oath is established for and on the record.
For those hating on the conservatives in this case, you might be interested to know that Judge George Pancol, who gave the decision, is a Democrat, as is Judge Thomas Newman, who affirmed the decision. A case like this is NOT about liberal/conservative, or Republicans v. Democrats. It's simply a matter of right v.wrong. In this case, the decision was very wrong. On that, most people can agree.
I don't give a flying fuck whether someone is a Republican or Democrat, as this is not a always a good indicator of whether they are liberal or conservative. Case in point: Fred Phelps of Westborough Baptist is a Democrat (as were most Klan members back in the day) and many of the Iowa judges who legalized gay marriage were put in office by Republicans.
Being liberal or conservative does matter though. Conservative (& non-libertarian) judges are worthless pieces of shit.
@aridchicken LMFAO...it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary? anyone can resort to swearing in a post, but usually, and you prove this well, there is nothing at all being said that is intelligent or rational. you contridict yourself, and there really isn't a coherent thought here, nor is there an actual point being made... except for your lack of intelligent thought. the joys of the world wide web. anyone that can find the power button on a computer can post! LOL
Little cunts like you who cry about swearing should be summarily dragged out into the streets and shot in the face. Seriously!? A whole fucking paragraph whinging and whining about the fact that I said 'fuck'? Did mommy tuck you in last night?
BTW, you want to complain about lack of intelligent thought in my post? Why don't you proofread your own?
"it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary?"
I think you MEANT to say "Is it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary?" By your own example of inability to use intelligent vocabulary, I'd have to reply with a resounding "YES!"
This guy just needs to kidnap, er... "move with his children" to someplace where the judge (a liberal version of Roy Moore) will find in favor of him. He needs to take a lesson from Dawn Huber's ex-husband.
Home of the free. Have you people had enough?! NOW will you sideline sitting "AMERICANS" get off your damn ass and do something to fight back against this minority of right wing FREAKS who are doing their best to ruin this country?
Mr Scarberry is from Indianapolis and Ive had the privilege to talk to this gentleman and he seems like an upstanding guy. I am doing an interview with him this Saturday on blogtalkradio/ucofw between 2-4pm...be sure to check it out to get the total scoop!
i'm christian and simply what they did to that guy is unacceptable.. but why keep saying bad things about religion? obviously it is the people who are selfrighteous who made this not religion.. its like you're blaming Islam for the actions terrorists' made.
associating religion with taking your father out of your life is not the best selling point. by pursuing this the mom is doing damage to her kids, and it will probably backfire.
Remember when Jesus said to treat others like shit and take away their kids? Yeah well fuck Jesus, this is American christianity, we have some new plans for sinners and the government is going to get paid to help us enact it.
Sharia law in America. Theocracy developing there.... I thought America was supposed to be SE-CU-LAR! How can the law,based on a secular constitution, base itself on religion to rule out the possibility of maintaining the joint custody?? Government no longer preach what they say. SICK!
there is an old saying that states: "beware the man of one book". the same applies to any city, county, state, or country. if they rely on ONE book they are to be considered dangerous.
What if someone ruled and took his kids away and put them into a foster home, or that he couldnt see them as much as before, BECAUSE HE IS A DOUCHEBAG. Now, I know that isnt in a religion, BUT HEY. ILL WRITE MY OWN FICTICIOUS PIECE OF WORK. CALL IT A RELIGION, and in my religion, if you dont believe in it, you are an unfit parent, because my imaginary god, JACK VODKA says you must believe penguins are the master race.
YES i know everything I just said here is nonsense. So is ALL OTHER RELIGION.
He should sue these judges for EVERY CENT they have ever made. Now, I am totally against egregious lawsuits, however, these ARE JUDGES, they are PAID, to be unbiased, open minded and fair. What happened here is an undeniable example of why religion is horrible, biased, backwards, close-minded, unintelligent, unscientific, but most of all UNNEEDED. Fuck these judges. If they are allowed to violate someones rights by taking their kids away, what if someone took his kids away because...
If this isn't enough proof that religion is ABSOLUTELY terrible. ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. This judge is a complete, total and indefensible sack of shit. So now we can take peoples children because of their religious affiliation. FURTHER proof, that THERE ARE NO POSITIVE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOOD, about religion. NOTHING. Living your life from a fictitious book or from the interpretation of that book by a priest, is LUDICROUS. I am 10000000% serious. This guy, should sue these judges..
Religion doesn't play into this as much as 'All Courts in every State in our Union' give the mother the kids, child support, etc. with no questions asked about anything. It's always to the Mom's favor & Father's everywhere have no rights at all & are Raped in every way possible. I'm a Dad in Texas & our Attorney General Office doesn't even have a clue.
That's what religions do, as a symptom,... religions create conflicts and divide people.
The way to solve world problems is to solve them localy first.
INDIFFERENCE is the most horrible human trait to maintain. It is of such great importance that non-activists start stepping out of the closet and do their part to make this planet a better world to live in, for everyone and for all future generations. This man needs help, he needs us, he needs an army to spread sanity and do away the insanity.
How the FUCK can a judge make a ruling based on one's religious belief?! ...Spitspatfirespit... This is the pinnacle of the encroaching narrow-mindedness and if this egregious ruling isn't blown up and out, pretty soon rapists will be "redeemed" by the court's approval of faith. Yes, that is a distinct possibility.
How on earth does the father's religion impact his fitness as a father? It didn't impact his fitness as a soldier in the US military. This just proves that the US Court system is owned by outside interests and is committed to theocracy now.
no relationship is perfect so when outside 'authorites' stick in their spoons and start stirling, there are no winners. look at what happens to the stars when they are hit on by the media. it's not dissimilar.
at least they torture for the sake of entertainment.. not god.
Those kids are kept in a PRISON called Christianity. All contact with the outside world is prevented. AS YOU CAN SEE CHRISTIANITY AND FASCIST RELIGIONS ARE ALL MONEY-MAKING CULTS WHERE THE FOLLOWERS ARE ALL KEPT IN PRISON AND BRAINWASHED FROM BIRTH.
And there's no way you can leave. Except if you're that guy who became agnostic....or one of the millions of others around the world who were raised Christian and changed their beliefs later in life.
Never Ever Marry a Fascist Religious Dictator, especially in a Theocratic Fascists Prison Constitution-Hating Freedom-Hating Orwellian Hellhole like America where the Judicial System and Judges are Owned by Corporations and the Money-making Scam called Christianity Inc.
The Australian constitution has almost the exact same wording on the separation of church and state but the powers that be choose to interpret it far more narrowly.
@halcyon0830 Oh shut up. Something like 85% of custody, when contested, goes to the mother. This is one case in which religion was the reason, but chances are he would have lost them anyway. It's a men's rights issue.
Fascist fuck head. How dare you mock the constitution from an arm chair you communist cock sucker... The judges in this case violated the constitution... Using this to mock our Constitution is blatant proof of your sheer ignorance
@halcyon0830 well have you ever lived in america? i doubt it and no the judges arent owned by anyone. you make these assumption and i can tell you dont know what your talking about
@halcyon0830 hey hey hey, there's no reason to insult America over a judge's decision. There was another judge that said schools have no right to impose Intelligent Design on school science curriculum, which is something we share with Europe. I'm not sure why the good things about America are never mentioned in situations like this :(
America is becoming a backwards Fascist Orwellian Prison Theocratic Hellhole where people are soon going to be hanged for not being Christian and for protesting against Wars, Oppression, Corporations and Fascism.
@halcyon0830 This happened in Russia and China. Now, they are being give the chance to do what America and Europe did for so long. It goes from one part of the planet to the other. The banksters use one half of the world to feed the other. This is how all the `isms' serve their serf society.
@halcyon0830 Hahaha Hanged for NOT being Christian?! Your insane. Its terribly obvious if you pay attention to anything in the world that it is shifting AWAY from Christianity to an awakening of conscienceness which will be this new world religion eventually and if you don't want anything to do with THAT you will be hanged. Opposite of what your saying. Thats truth.
@halcyon0830 Like I said to the other guy, listen. American is NOT the hellhole that people are saying. There's plenty of Americans who maintain values that are important to human beings, ok? There's no reason to say silly stuff like that any more than there's reason to say France is filled with rude smoking drinking assholes that don't bathe. Get me?
this is so messed up. its against his civil rights. our country was founded by people looking for freedom of religion.... its in the first amendment along with freedom of speech. its because of this crap, and the fact im not gullible, is the reason im a proud atheist and practicing nietzschean( to be above all the primitive thoughts, above religion and racism, above politics)
@ChristianIce Our nation is already a free nation, nothing is stopping you from being an Atheist.
Btw Hitler's religious affliation has been left up to debate. He was known to flip-flop a lot on his religious beliefs ranging from Christian, to Catholic, to Atheist. So your point is moot. We aren't here to discuss hitler's religion though.
Yep, both Hitler and Stalin didn't motivate their actions because of religion (as actually Bush did), so there is nothing to talk about.
Fact is in a nation where you are free to be an atheist, or an agnostic like in this case, that should not lead any judge to make decisions based upon your lack of belief, don't you agree?
@ChristianIce You shouldn't make beliefs based on religion. But don't act like there hasn't been an atheist that has done something wrong to Christians because he is against their belief.
Also Stalin killed around 20mil people or so. 4 million of which were Jewish and Christians. Most of whom were killed because they had a religion. So in a way Atheism motivated Stalin.
Whatever, there is nothing more on atheism that just the lack of belief in god, if you want to think that this simple fact leaded Stalin to kill people, feel free to think that, that doesn't change the history.
Also, thousands of people were killed in the name of god, directly, during hte crusades and the spanish inquisition .. are you reading what i am writing?
@ChristianIce and Stalin/Pol Pot (atheists) killed people because of their religion. Why you deny this, I have no idea but like you said. You can deny it all you want but you can't change history.
Also if you want to compare Atheist to Christian death-tolls. Atheists have killed a lot of people in a shorter time. In contrast the Crusade took place over many, many years. They also took place pre 1900 when the world was different.
Pol Pot/Stalin happened in the 1900s aka modern times.
@ChristianIce are you making generalizations and putting words in my mouth? When did I say that strictly being atheist makes you kill? I'd love to see where I said that. What I said was, you call Christians out for having killed in the past but when I call Atheists out for it, then you start making up excuses.
@ChristianIce It's about Pol Pot and another Atheist from China that committed a genocide (his name escapes me atm). But Stalin is the easiest to type so I'm just talking about him.
And who cares about the crusades which happened almost 1000 years ago?
Not sure if this will help or not. I'm a Atheist so you know this is not coming from a Christian,
But the bible might be his way out of this as well.
Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
I wonder what would happen cause she is going against the bible and so is the judge.
According to her bible she's the bad guy.
TheHappilyInsane 3 weeks ago
Hopefully that bitch gets hit by a bus
furysdrummer 4 weeks ago
@furysdrummer *likeee*
ExMxO59002 1 week ago
agnosticism forever.
Spitfire995 1 month ago
Wow most of you are failing to realize this is not a religion topic, this is a unconstitutional act committed by the court. This stomped on the freedom of religion, now what? We can't. See family because of what we believe in? Are you kidding me, that's the most absurd thing I ever heard.
TheCashmoney1234567 1 month ago
@TheCashmoney1234567 It does somewhat have to do with religion. Because the religious propagate this whole anti-atheist/agnostic feeling in America at least. It is the religion that promotes it, so obviously there is a huge bias. But yes the court ruling is in direct violation of the constitution. The judgment was obviously based off a religious stand point, which is why the judgment was unconstitutional.
CtheWolfe 1 month ago
Religion is for the clueless who can't think
PimpinMyHos 1 month ago
Fuck Christians! Why Does It Mattter That a Person is a Certain Religion, Prejudice assholes! And Yes, Troll This Fucking Comment as Much as You Like, As Far as any Of You Uptight Prejudice Nazi Fucks, Im Burning In Hell!
ChineseUrinals 2 months ago 2
It's probably sexist and wrong, but generally, unless there is a compelling reason, women in the US will win custody.
paulaegraham 3 months ago
Church and state is now connected? Interesting. So if you don't believe in the invisible ET, out in the clouds, you don't deserve children? I better read Peter Pan again, may help me in a court of law.
fmnma1 4 months ago
its just a phase Americans are going through. Apparently if you are atheist you are rational but anyway if the woman is Christian she should know the importance of family and need of father in their lives. The wife is just using the religion as a tool.
lol the wife even has a boyfriend. that's forbidden in Christianity.
ughhh silly people.
razaa09 5 months ago
@razaa09 Boyfriends are most certainly not forbidden in Christianity. Perhaps you're thinking of Islam?
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath Fornication is forbidden in Christianity!
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 Yes, you're correct in saying that fornication is a sin. However, having a boyfriend or girlfriend does not equal fornication. You can have a meaningful relationship without sex. How else do you find a future spouse if you never ever date? You have to get to know the person, and their personality, temperament, etc.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath well yeah I agree taht you have to know the indivisual before you marry them but spending time with them in a cafe or goingout for a dinner doesnt mean you are in a relationship. how often you hear that two people are couple and they haven't touched each other yet? Christianity has gone down the drain.
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 There are a lot of Christians (myself included) that earnestly seek relationships without sex before marriage. Christianity hasn't gone down the drain, people's self control has. It is possible to be with someone without sleeping with them.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath yeah but you cant kiss them or hug them. In christianity women aere suppose to dress the way Muslim women and Jewish women dress. Walk into a church and you will images of Mary where her head is covered but today there are strippers who have a cross around their neck. Girls are walking around wearing skirts, there are bikinis and thongs lol.
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 What Bible are you reading? Where does it say you can't kiss or hug a person? And where does it say that Christian women are supposed to dress like Muslim or Jewish (who, by the way, do not dress alike) women?
"Walk into a church and you will [see] images of Mary where her head is covered..."You're talking about a Roman Catholic or Orthodox Catholic church. Protestant churches don't have that, and just because Mary is veiled doesn't mean all Christian women have to.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@razaa09 A lot of women who dress provocatively wear the cross while wearing a bikini - but so do men who lie and cheat on their wives. So do deceivers, fornicators, etc. The point is that all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. We all need Jesus. Being a Christian doesn't mean you're automatically a perfect person with your nose looking down on others...it means you have Jesus helping you to make the right decisions.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath if you don't want people to cheat on their wives, and make sure that teenagers do no commit fornication then first you have to make sure that you daughter does not wear a skirt or a bikini. If you are not following or even attempting to follow Christian values then stop calling yourself Christian.
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 No you don't. It's called SELF CONTROL. If I want to wear a pair of shorts in the summer time (which I do), I'm going to wear a pair of shorts. I am not going to go out and fornicate because I have some leg showing! How dare you say I'm not following Christian values when it is clear you don't have a good grasp on what Christian values are. Being a Christian doesn't mean I dress like a 16th century Puritan who doesn't watch TV or listen to secular music.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@razaa09 Being a Christians means I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and emulate him in my life. It means I try to be a light to a dark world, and it means that I earnestly seek God in all that I do. Please find me a chapter and verse in the Bible that contradicts anything I said. I was raised in a Christian home, and went to Christian schools my entire life. I KNOW the Bible, and have been guided by several Godly men and women in my life. I'll wait for your proof though.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath Brother look, the way you act-the way you talk to other people-the way you eat and drink-the way you treat your young and elders...all these things also matter. The first step is to believe in Jesus Christ PBUH and then you follow his path. Just saying that "yeah i believe in Jesus" and then go and commit adultery or fornication is ridiculous. How are you a believer then?........My words are not directed towards you; I hope you realize that :)
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 PBUH? He's not dead, Jesus is alive. PBUH is a Muslim saying using after saying the name of Muhammad, the founder of Islam.
The first step is to believe in Jesus, yes. And listening to elders, obeying God's commands, etc. are all also important. However, just because a person fornicates once or commits adultery once doesn't mean they're not Christian anymore. Repentance and asking God's forgiveness are what's important. Earnest repentance is what counts - not just saying sorry
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@razaa09 But meaning it. That's what's important. As we follow Christ more and try to be more like him, we a light to a dark world that needs God. So wearing shorts or a short skirt doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. When I went on my missions trip in 2008, several of the children and adults we evangelized to wore shorts and skirts. Does that mean their conversions weren't real, or that they're not Christians? Christianity is orthodox (belief in correct practice) rather than orthopractic.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@razaa09 CORRECTION: Orthodox (belief in correct doctrine) rather than orthopractic (belief in correct practice equaling salvation)
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath you have to practice what you believe. You can't just pick one. Plus Jesus Christ PBUH did not even write the bible and there is a new bible out everyday. How do you even know what did Jesus Christ said?
razaa09 2 months ago
@razaa09 I'm not sure why you keep saying PBUH after you say Jesus Christ, but ok. Of course Jesus didn't write the Bible. His apostles wrote the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), Paul wrote the epistles (Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Etc.) and John wrote the book of Revelation. His apostles knew what he said. Archaeologists say it takes 2 generations for a story (passed orally as I'm sure Jesus' was) to get misconstrued.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@razaa09 Look up chronology of Jessu on Wiki, it won't let me post the link <-- Archaeological estimations for the writing of the gospels. There aren't new Bibles out everyday, there are new translations/versions. It is really semantics, and if you really want the original Bible it exists in its primary languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic.
TheWindsBreath 2 months ago
@TheWindsBreath Jesus PBUH never even wrote the bible. Moreover the most popular bible followed today is of the King James version which came out 1400 years after Jesus Christ PBUH. You can`t just pick and choose what you like and edit out the stuff you do not.
razaa09 2 months ago
wow what the fuck people like these make christians look like assholes v.v
iheartpurplemonkey 7 months ago
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America is an theocratic fascist state, it has been going that way since Reagan
videotuna 7 months ago
How did it all work out?
YoungIvyScholar 8 months ago
Most Dad's share 50-50 custody? Yeah right. Both my parent's are atheist, and my Mom still got major custody, and my Dad only got every other weekend and Wednesday's. My mom actually called the cops on me for trying to not go on a trip with her and the cops made me go with her, and I wanted to stay with my dad for longer when it was actually his day to have me and I still had to go with that fascist bitch! Fuck custody laws, give kids 10 and up the right to transfer custody between parents!
MacabreManifesto 8 months ago 4
If this story unfolded the way this guy is "reporting", then its not right. What really bothers me,however, is how this guy (I don't know his name and I don't want to) seems to go out of his way to portray Christians in an unfavorable light. Maybe thats why he's stuck on the internet.
BrownHawk35 8 months ago
@BrownHawk35
he has actually got his own tv segment on msnbc.
He doesnt portray all Christians in a bad way, he only throws the ones under the bus who would split up a father and his kids because of their religion.
True Christians would not get in the way of a father and his children. jenk (thats his name) only goes after people who are being unfair or promoting inequality. which seems pretty fair to me if im honest.
grant11102 7 months ago
@grant11102 First of all, Im a Christian, but Icertainly dont advocate taking a mans children away from him because he is not. Im inclined to believe that there's more to this story than a few seconds of a video clip on youtube. "My kids are being taken away from me because I'm not a Christian" is a more sensational story than whatever else may have been a factor (and I've GOT to believe there are other factors). Second of all, Im not one of the twelve people who watch msnbc.
BrownHawk35 7 months ago
That's fucking disgusting- what the hell is wrong with America? Taking a man's children away because he's agnostic? What next, deporting the non-religious? Killing them? Story makes me want to vomit.
JermzzzyFTW 8 months ago
Maybe hes a democrat. Thats reason to take kids off of him.
JawsJaws 8 months ago
Religions are disgusting and embarrassing. It's horrible we still give stature and respect to these ignorant bronze age cults. We have to end superstition, before it ends us..
odiewan58 8 months ago
imagion the other way around
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 9 months ago 2
This is one of the rare times I agree with Cenk or TYT. That should not be a factor in the legal system.
vjohn16 9 months ago
Family law is such a nightmare with religious right judges. and the religious right is always complaining about so-called liberal activist judges, what a bunch of hypocrites. For this reason i just could never have an intimate relationship with any kind of fundamentalist, their just to control freak.
jslovin23 9 months ago
only in america...
Darusdei 11 months ago 4
Indiana Judge is Anti-Family
InfamousArmstrong 11 months ago 2
who does need muslim terrorists to destroy a country when you got christian judges
arborinfelix 11 months ago 11
Such is the assault on American fathers in all states. In the field of psychology, such action is known as Parental Alienation which is usually attributed to a chaotic parent. Now folks, let us prepare for the next phase of Governmental Alienation : the final intrusion into the family structure and condemnation of American fathers.
If the joint custody were allowed to continue, this man and woman have no moneys to dispute. If the custody is her's she gets money.... very simple equation.
DisposableEgo 11 months ago
I was attempting to comment on this video, but I am so dumb-founded by the judge's decision that I don't know how to express myself.
SVTcoolguy 11 months ago 2
And this is why you don't get into a relationship and/or marriage with a religious person. I have stayed clear of them in romantic relationships all my life and I am quite happy.
INatalkaI 11 months ago 2
The judge us such a dick
PumaFau 11 months ago
Mother shouldn't be allowed to impose her beliefs on the kids. Stupid.
MyPaperBleedsInk 11 months ago 12
But if it is cut to four hours a week and rotating week ends, does than mean that he will not be agnostic those hours? There are many relationships that the people have different religions, and at the rate of divorce, we might as well get used to it.
sandra44035 1 year ago
I bet the judge did not reduced the dad's child support payment. If a dad is unfit to spent time with the child, the mom should be unfit to spent his money.
allTRIPLE1 1 year ago 5
It is sadly amazing that being aware that there is probably not a imagery man in the sky can take away your rights.
dude12nothin 1 year ago 4
shit that's fucked up.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago 3
besides the religious component, this is about father's rights. this is a prime example of how the mother almost always gets the kids regardless, in this case she's a total deadbeat piece of shit, yet she gets carte blanche.
BillKiernan 1 year ago 3
WTF is Christian daycare? Is that some kind of bible camp?
JesusSuckedGayPenis 1 year ago 4
@Zoeres You sound so ignorant. Thomas Jefferson stated that the Bible should be taught in schools. And when they said freedom of religion they really meant that freedom of different denominations of Christianity because, there was a lot of persecution back then by the different denominations. Why do you think many of the early immigrants came here? God made this world for Christians and I guess you will find out the hard way in the next life.
lilkidgohome2 1 year ago
@lilkidgohome2 Your Wrong!!!
The Government can not promote religion of any denomination in it's laws; be it christian, hindu, non-denomination, or non-faith's. In fact when laws are made religious concederations are forbbiden. (meant interpetation1st amendment)
The Government may not demand any religious test for public office or trust. Meaning no one has to be this christain or non-faith to be acceptable. Not a state right. (meant interpetation of Article 6)
Stop betraying US, FOOL!
Zunile03scape 1 year ago 4
@lilkidgohome2 Does the person who is responsible for you know you're on the internet saying stupid things?
afroschlan 1 year ago
god freaks are whats wrong with the world !
JuStGrEaTfUl 1 year ago
The judge made the right decision. This country and world was made for CHRISTIANS and wheter you belive in God or not; it doesn't matter because you will have to face the truth in the next world
- So thank you judge for trying to give children a fair chance in life. Email me if you want my prayers!
lilkidgohome2 1 year ago
@lilkidgohome2 US was founded by atheists and one of the constitutional rights is freedom or religion. If anyone gets treated differently in law becouse of their religion it is against the constitution.
Besides this world wasn't made for christians even in christian belief you asshole. Ever read the bible? It never seizes to amaze me how christians go on and on about they're untoubtebly right when they constantly contradict their own religion.
Zoeres 1 year ago
@lilkidgohome2 your religion is not the rule of the world....christianity does not dictate all people...and just so you know the US was founded on religious freedom
brainiac554 1 year ago
This is fucking ridiculous
matthewisacracker 1 year ago
So religion is fine as long as you stay brainwashed. The moment you have questions or show signs of intelligence the freedom of thought speech religion goes flying out the window? We are not free enough in this country to question fairy tales with a skeptical mind without consequence? This BS is wrong on so many levels. Agnostic is not even non belief it is just a inbetween enlightenment to truth and knowledge. The mother of all knowledge comes from questioning.
PeckerGoblin 1 year ago 4
who is the judge who made this ruling?
samthor 1 year ago
kill the mother
MANJUICEIFY 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing this ridiculousness. Down with the church!! Down with all organized religion!! Flush your arrogance; The Universe rules all!! There are, and have been for many thousands of years, beings who know and respect these Universal rules. Respect your elders and ancestors for once in your arrogant life!!
jysluggo 1 year ago
This what happens when commissioners hear cases and get away with violating the Constitution/ Bill of Rights 1st amendment because these administrators are not bound by Oath to uphold the Constitution.
So we need to start by asking if the judge or commissioner has an Oath registered in the court where proceeding are being held. If commissioner dodges question, then the concerned party should not let the proceedings continue until proof Oath is established for and on the record.
natcycle1 1 year ago
For those hating on the conservatives in this case, you might be interested to know that Judge George Pancol, who gave the decision, is a Democrat, as is Judge Thomas Newman, who affirmed the decision. A case like this is NOT about liberal/conservative, or Republicans v. Democrats. It's simply a matter of right v.wrong. In this case, the decision was very wrong. On that, most people can agree.
hoosierghosthunter 1 year ago
@hoosierghosthunter
I don't give a flying fuck whether someone is a Republican or Democrat, as this is not a always a good indicator of whether they are liberal or conservative. Case in point: Fred Phelps of Westborough Baptist is a Democrat (as were most Klan members back in the day) and many of the Iowa judges who legalized gay marriage were put in office by Republicans.
Being liberal or conservative does matter though. Conservative (& non-libertarian) judges are worthless pieces of shit.
aridchicken 1 year ago
@aridchicken LMFAO...it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary? anyone can resort to swearing in a post, but usually, and you prove this well, there is nothing at all being said that is intelligent or rational. you contridict yourself, and there really isn't a coherent thought here, nor is there an actual point being made... except for your lack of intelligent thought. the joys of the world wide web. anyone that can find the power button on a computer can post! LOL
hoosierghosthunter 1 year ago
@hoosierghosthunter
I contradicted myself? Where? How?
Little cunts like you who cry about swearing should be summarily dragged out into the streets and shot in the face. Seriously!? A whole fucking paragraph whinging and whining about the fact that I said 'fuck'? Did mommy tuck you in last night?
aridchicken 1 year ago
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@hoosierghosthunter
BTW, you want to complain about lack of intelligent thought in my post? Why don't you proofread your own?
"it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary?"
I think you MEANT to say "Is it really too hard on the brain to use an intelligent vocabulary?" By your own example of inability to use intelligent vocabulary, I'd have to reply with a resounding "YES!"
aridchicken 1 year ago
50% to 4 hours? Thanks for covering this! Yes, this IS beyond outrageous.
MegF142857 1 year ago
This guy just needs to kidnap, er... "move with his children" to someplace where the judge (a liberal version of Roy Moore) will find in favor of him. He needs to take a lesson from Dawn Huber's ex-husband.
aridchicken 1 year ago
Home of the free. Have you people had enough?! NOW will you sideline sitting "AMERICANS" get off your damn ass and do something to fight back against this minority of right wing FREAKS who are doing their best to ruin this country?
ccm800 1 year ago
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Mr Scarberry is from Indianapolis and Ive had the privilege to talk to this gentleman and he seems like an upstanding guy. I am doing an interview with him this Saturday on blogtalkradio/ucofw between 2-4pm...be sure to check it out to get the total scoop!
ucofw 1 year ago
Hope the judge is removed and the father gets full custody.
Yolandra101 1 year ago
She can't tell him how to raise his kids during the time HE sees them. Judge George Pankel is wrong. They can't treat a VETERAN this way!!!
I'm a drag queen, Craig, but I will have Freedom Trucker do a video for you and I will try to help. You are free to believe or not.
LaReinaDelBarrio 1 year ago
This is why I hate religion. Fucking causes problems and everybody thinks there better then each other.
UltimateGamer181 1 year ago 2
i'm christian and simply what they did to that guy is unacceptable.. but why keep saying bad things about religion? obviously it is the people who are selfrighteous who made this not religion.. its like you're blaming Islam for the actions terrorists' made.
foodlick 1 year ago
@foodlick Absolutely blame Islam for terrorism and the extremist morons that believe the religion.
thecosmos003 1 year ago
What?????????? The mother has put those kids into Christian Day Care?
Give custody to the father; the woman is obviously trying to brainwash those kids.
CobinRain 1 year ago
associating religion with taking your father out of your life is not the best selling point. by pursuing this the mom is doing damage to her kids, and it will probably backfire.
MissNophi2U 1 year ago
Remember when Jesus said to treat others like shit and take away their kids? Yeah well fuck Jesus, this is American christianity, we have some new plans for sinners and the government is going to get paid to help us enact it.
jas16899 1 year ago
Sharia law in America. Theocracy developing there.... I thought America was supposed to be SE-CU-LAR! How can the law,based on a secular constitution, base itself on religion to rule out the possibility of maintaining the joint custody?? Government no longer preach what they say. SICK!
CuteMcBeauty 1 year ago
there is an old saying that states: "beware the man of one book". the same applies to any city, county, state, or country. if they rely on ONE book they are to be considered dangerous.
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago 4
What if someone ruled and took his kids away and put them into a foster home, or that he couldnt see them as much as before, BECAUSE HE IS A DOUCHEBAG. Now, I know that isnt in a religion, BUT HEY. ILL WRITE MY OWN FICTICIOUS PIECE OF WORK. CALL IT A RELIGION, and in my religion, if you dont believe in it, you are an unfit parent, because my imaginary god, JACK VODKA says you must believe penguins are the master race.
YES i know everything I just said here is nonsense. So is ALL OTHER RELIGION.
freelandwhippet 1 year ago
@freelandwhippet sadly it'll probably will work, and you'll have yourslef your own little cult.
eethry 1 year ago
He should sue these judges for EVERY CENT they have ever made. Now, I am totally against egregious lawsuits, however, these ARE JUDGES, they are PAID, to be unbiased, open minded and fair. What happened here is an undeniable example of why religion is horrible, biased, backwards, close-minded, unintelligent, unscientific, but most of all UNNEEDED. Fuck these judges. If they are allowed to violate someones rights by taking their kids away, what if someone took his kids away because...
freelandwhippet 1 year ago
If this isn't enough proof that religion is ABSOLUTELY terrible. ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. This judge is a complete, total and indefensible sack of shit. So now we can take peoples children because of their religious affiliation. FURTHER proof, that THERE ARE NO POSITIVE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOOD, about religion. NOTHING. Living your life from a fictitious book or from the interpretation of that book by a priest, is LUDICROUS. I am 10000000% serious. This guy, should sue these judges..
freelandwhippet 1 year ago
Terrible. Screw religion in its backwards asshole.
BanglishBoy 1 year ago 2
Religion doesn't play into this as much as 'All Courts in every State in our Union' give the mother the kids, child support, etc. with no questions asked about anything. It's always to the Mom's favor & Father's everywhere have no rights at all & are Raped in every way possible. I'm a Dad in Texas & our Attorney General Office doesn't even have a clue.
rleary1 1 year ago
That's what religions do, as a symptom,... religions create conflicts and divide people.
The way to solve world problems is to solve them localy first.
INDIFFERENCE is the most horrible human trait to maintain. It is of such great importance that non-activists start stepping out of the closet and do their part to make this planet a better world to live in, for everyone and for all future generations. This man needs help, he needs us, he needs an army to spread sanity and do away the insanity.
manlioman 1 year ago
I hope the guy wins and the judge is ridiculed by his profession for his inane decision
SingHouse 1 year ago
HOW WAS THIS NOT DISMISSED?!
How the FUCK can a judge make a ruling based on one's religious belief?! ...Spitspatfirespit... This is the pinnacle of the encroaching narrow-mindedness and if this egregious ruling isn't blown up and out, pretty soon rapists will be "redeemed" by the court's approval of faith. Yes, that is a distinct possibility.
skorchedutopia 1 year ago
Just another reason for me to hate religion : )
waj1173 1 year ago 2
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This is why we in Europe look down on you.
DerrenBrown100 1 year ago
His wife is sleeping with the judge.
fito192rex192 1 year ago 5
@fito192rex192 one way of explaining it-or the judge is a biased sack of shit
random6678 1 year ago
How on earth does the father's religion impact his fitness as a father? It didn't impact his fitness as a soldier in the US military. This just proves that the US Court system is owned by outside interests and is committed to theocracy now.
xander7ful 1 year ago
no relationship is perfect so when outside 'authorites' stick in their spoons and start stirling, there are no winners. look at what happens to the stars when they are hit on by the media. it's not dissimilar.
at least they torture for the sake of entertainment.. not god.
nettledned 1 year ago
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BIBLE
Kill friends/family worshipping a God who is different than your own. [Deuteronomy13:6-10]
“If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both have done the detestable. They must be put to death” [Leviticus20:13]
“Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed” [Exodus22:20]
"Blessed shall he be who takes your child and dashes them against the rock!" [Psalm137:9]
"If a man commits adultery with a wife, both adulterer & adulteress must be put to death." [Leviti20:10]
halcyon0830 1 year ago
Those kids are kept in a PRISON called Christianity. All contact with the outside world is prevented. AS YOU CAN SEE CHRISTIANITY AND FASCIST RELIGIONS ARE ALL MONEY-MAKING CULTS WHERE THE FOLLOWERS ARE ALL KEPT IN PRISON AND BRAINWASHED FROM BIRTH.
halcyon0830 1 year ago
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BaxterBrothersShow 1 year ago
@halcyon0830
And there's no way you can leave. Except if you're that guy who became agnostic....or one of the millions of others around the world who were raised Christian and changed their beliefs later in life.
ViolentRiC 1 year ago
And America Dares to go after Iran and North Korea and call them "Crazy" and "Freedomless" and "Fascist" and "Extremists" ???
halcyon0830 1 year ago 7
Never Ever Marry a Fascist Religious Dictator, especially in a Theocratic Fascists Prison Constitution-Hating Freedom-Hating Orwellian Hellhole like America where the Judicial System and Judges are Owned by Corporations and the Money-making Scam called Christianity Inc.
halcyon0830 1 year ago 64
@halcyon0830
America is not that bad
The Australian constitution has almost the exact same wording on the separation of church and state but the powers that be choose to interpret it far more narrowly.
celestialsalamander 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 Oh shut up. Something like 85% of custody, when contested, goes to the mother. This is one case in which religion was the reason, but chances are he would have lost them anyway. It's a men's rights issue.
TruTV 1 year ago
@halcyon0830
Fascist fuck head. How dare you mock the constitution from an arm chair you communist cock sucker... The judges in this case violated the constitution... Using this to mock our Constitution is blatant proof of your sheer ignorance
direnmina 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 couldn't agree more
kingmartinh 1 year ago
@kingmartinh then you havent lived in america
brainiac554 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 well have you ever lived in america? i doubt it and no the judges arent owned by anyone. you make these assumption and i can tell you dont know what your talking about
brainiac554 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 hey hey hey, there's no reason to insult America over a judge's decision. There was another judge that said schools have no right to impose Intelligent Design on school science curriculum, which is something we share with Europe. I'm not sure why the good things about America are never mentioned in situations like this :(
BigLundi 1 year ago
America is becoming a backwards Fascist Orwellian Prison Theocratic Hellhole where people are soon going to be hanged for not being Christian and for protesting against Wars, Oppression, Corporations and Fascism.
halcyon0830 1 year ago 57
@halcyon0830
first of all it's a Lucifarian agenda using the guise of Christianity, Start doing your research properly and quit generalising about Christianity.
PoeticaUK 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 This happened in Russia and China. Now, they are being give the chance to do what America and Europe did for so long. It goes from one part of the planet to the other. The banksters use one half of the world to feed the other. This is how all the `isms' serve their serf society.
stargate669 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 Hahaha Hanged for NOT being Christian?! Your insane. Its terribly obvious if you pay attention to anything in the world that it is shifting AWAY from Christianity to an awakening of conscienceness which will be this new world religion eventually and if you don't want anything to do with THAT you will be hanged. Opposite of what your saying. Thats truth.
andytaylor2011 1 year ago
@halcyon0830
kingmartinh 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 whos getting hanged in america? no one has been hanged in over 70 years...
brainiac554 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 Like I said to the other guy, listen. American is NOT the hellhole that people are saying. There's plenty of Americans who maintain values that are important to human beings, ok? There's no reason to say silly stuff like that any more than there's reason to say France is filled with rude smoking drinking assholes that don't bathe. Get me?
BigLundi 1 year ago
@halcyon0830
I call bullshit on that comment. Religion is in a decline, and the only bitching you hear is from the holy roller republican white trash. GG .
jgrakowski 10 months ago
@halcyon0830 I think that's a bit of a stretch. But I share your basic concern.
rpsmith014 8 months ago
Is Indiana a backwards state where people are hanged for not being Christian?
jrsam25 1 year ago
How much you wanna bet the judge wont be fired?
ooMONKEYoo 1 year ago 3
Would State and Church laws be crossed here?
ShieldHearth420 1 year ago
Get religious bull shit out of our judicial system. This is not Saudi Arabia.
djwaglmuffin 1 year ago 7
Ignore retardedBob people, he's a idiotic troll.
mecher3k 1 year ago
Not right
KINGCALLO 1 year ago
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this is so messed up. its against his civil rights. our country was founded by people looking for freedom of religion.... its in the first amendment along with freedom of speech. its because of this crap, and the fact im not gullible, is the reason im a proud atheist and practicing nietzschean( to be above all the primitive thoughts, above religion and racism, above politics)
Akirajay38 1 year ago
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Akirajay38 1 year ago
Was that guy for real??
Unbeliavable ...
ChristianIce 1 year ago
Never liked theocracies.
I hope american people will stand up against who is working to make U.S. a "christian" nation (whatever christian mean, i would ask mormons first).
That's the first step if you want to get rid of sad stories like this one on TYT, creationism and bullshit of that kind.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce How would being an atheist nation help?
Google Russia under Stalin since that was an Atheist nation.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
No you didn't get it.
A free nation is a nation where you are free to believe any god you like, and also none.
And I guess somebody else already pointed out to you that hitler was a catholic, right?
So no point made.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Our nation is already a free nation, nothing is stopping you from being an Atheist.
Btw Hitler's religious affliation has been left up to debate. He was known to flip-flop a lot on his religious beliefs ranging from Christian, to Catholic, to Atheist. So your point is moot. We aren't here to discuss hitler's religion though.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Yep, both Hitler and Stalin didn't motivate their actions because of religion (as actually Bush did), so there is nothing to talk about.
Fact is in a nation where you are free to be an atheist, or an agnostic like in this case, that should not lead any judge to make decisions based upon your lack of belief, don't you agree?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce You shouldn't make beliefs based on religion. But don't act like there hasn't been an atheist that has done something wrong to Christians because he is against their belief.
Also Stalin killed around 20mil people or so. 4 million of which were Jewish and Christians. Most of whom were killed because they had a religion. So in a way Atheism motivated Stalin.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
I don't deny history, i don't deny the crusades, the spanish inquisition... what's the point?
You can say that Stalin was motivated by atheism as much as I can say that Hitler was motivated by chtistianity, but i thought you already get that.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Except Stalin was motivated in some sense by Atheism. Hitler was motivated by the fact that he wanted a one race world.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Whatever, there is nothing more on atheism that just the lack of belief in god, if you want to think that this simple fact leaded Stalin to kill people, feel free to think that, that doesn't change the history.
Also, thousands of people were killed in the name of god, directly, during hte crusades and the spanish inquisition .. are you reading what i am writing?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce and Stalin/Pol Pot (atheists) killed people because of their religion. Why you deny this, I have no idea but like you said. You can deny it all you want but you can't change history.
Also if you want to compare Atheist to Christian death-tolls. Atheists have killed a lot of people in a shorter time. In contrast the Crusade took place over many, many years. They also took place pre 1900 when the world was different.
Pol Pot/Stalin happened in the 1900s aka modern times.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Even if he did?
How many people were killed by christians because of religion?
Did you ever heard of maya?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce When did I ever deny people were killed by Christians? I'm saying you're denying people were killed in the name of Atheism.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Ok let's see how logically being an atheist would lead to kill somebody.
Please enlight me.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce I just told you. Stalin was against anyone that worshipped a God. Are you really that dense?
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Do you think that being an atheist will lead to kill people?
Do you think that since stalin did it i would do it as well?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce are you making generalizations and putting words in my mouth? When did I say that strictly being atheist makes you kill? I'd love to see where I said that. What I said was, you call Christians out for having killed in the past but when I call Atheists out for it, then you start making up excuses.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Oh so it was just about stalin.
Well, who cares though, he is dead.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce It's about Pol Pot and another Atheist from China that committed a genocide (his name escapes me atm). But Stalin is the easiest to type so I'm just talking about him.
And who cares about the crusades which happened almost 1000 years ago?
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
If it is not a generalization, if it's not about atheism but just about stalin, why are we still talking about that?
Anyway give me a couple of minutes to find the pope words.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce It is about Atheism. So what the hell are you talking about or are you just spouting random nonsense?
Also find me 3 Pope videos. I'd love to see them.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
Man ,if it is about atheism, it is a generalization.
So we get back at the previous question.
How being an atheist would lead ME to kill anybody?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Stalin was an atheist who didn't believe in God (as with all Atheists). He killed people who believed in God.
Theres your answer.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
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@Sneezlebob
Again, how being an atheist would lead ME to kill anybody?
What is the logic in that?
I see you can say "stalin killed people", and I don't care.
There is not an "atheist book of rules" that states Kill people.
There are many passages with "kill the infedels" in the bible though.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Dude i just told you why an Athest would kill someone.
Also there are passages in the Bible that say "Love why neighbor". Apparently Atheists have no concept of this since you say Atheists have no bible.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
" i just told you why an Athest would kill someone"
No, you didn't.
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Yes I did, you just asked me a while back. I told you why. Asking the same question won't get you a different answer
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@ChristianIce You said
In what language should I make you understand and asked me to check your channel.
Why would I check your retarded channel?
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
@ChristianIce Find me 3 videos of the Pope saying "I am a Christian" instead of "I am a Catholic" just so we're clear he didnt misspeak.
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
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giovedì 15 gennaio 2009
Il Papa: "Per noi Cristiani, la vera speranza è Cristo, dono del Padre all’umanità"
magisterobenedettoxvi . blogspot.com / 2009 / 01 / il-papa-per-noi-cristiani-la-vera . html
ChristianIce 1 year ago
@Sneezlebob
There you go, an entire channel.
youtube .com / vaticanit?gl=IT&hl=it
Not just 3, there's 300 videos you would hear that.
Enough?
ChristianIce 1 year a