Remember, not everyone wants to be treated right. Some don't even know what virtue is. So if we treat bad folks the way theywant to be treated it will be unwelcomed. So, the golden rule is dependant on virtue, which is why I covered it.
P.S. Freedoms are limited by our common Responsiblity to to respect each others humanity. This is the fundimental line where all freedoms come to, and this is the fundimental truth that all morality is born out of. The Golden Rule.
you stated -> If each individuals goals are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without trying to steal, murder, or enslave then the balance has been met. Too easy.
Well, the reason stealing, murder, ect are wrong gets back to the reponsibility we all have to each others humanity, also known as the Golden Rule. See, responsibility comes 1st and then freedom results.
Don't confuse liberty with Libertarianism. Liberty is one of many components of Humanism Philosophy that is based on respect of each others humanity. It is Liberty that rejects (authoritarianism) for self determination through democracy. BTW... one problem I have with Islam is it is authoritarian.
@AdogmaticEdwards Trust me. I know the differences quite well. As in Islam, I disagree 100%. The Quran doesn't say anything about authoritarian or democracy. Notably however, a careful study of the Quran will give the person the tools to chose what system they wish to live in. There is no compulsion in Deen. In that, there is not a set way that a human is to be alive. Hence, the Quran is free of that compulsion.
@AdogmaticEdwards I get the feeling that you are against the same "islam" that I am. I am not for a religion or doctrine or dogma or institution that I did not chose. I did not chose any of those and do not feel they are legitimate. I do accept the Quran and Allah and that which is found therein, but I do not accept Hadith. So, all that which compels a person to authoritarianism is not even on my radar.
I could talk more about this is you want to personally. Another day at least.
Libertarianism is a deadbeat political cult that lacks any balance between the individual and the society... Libertarians want freedom from social responsibility. All freedoms come from and are limited by responsibility we have to each other.
@AdogmaticEdwards Freedoms aren't limited if there is virtue and mutual gain. That is liberation. Responsibility to those that are accepted into your construct (whatever the premise), is a mutual thing, and thus are accepted as part of your consideration.
If each individuals goals are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without trying to steal, murder, or enslave then the balance has been met. Too easy.
Remember, not everyone wants to be treated right. Some don't even know what virtue is. So if we treat bad folks the way theywant to be treated it will be unwelcomed. So, the golden rule is dependant on virtue, which is why I covered it.
Teddy3inDC 2 weeks ago
P.S. Freedoms are limited by our common Responsiblity to to respect each others humanity. This is the fundimental line where all freedoms come to, and this is the fundimental truth that all morality is born out of. The Golden Rule.
AdogmaticEdwards 2 weeks ago
@AdogmaticEdwards agreed
Teddy3inDC 2 weeks ago
you stated -> If each individuals goals are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without trying to steal, murder, or enslave then the balance has been met. Too easy.
Well, the reason stealing, murder, ect are wrong gets back to the reponsibility we all have to each others humanity, also known as the Golden Rule. See, responsibility comes 1st and then freedom results.
AdogmaticEdwards 2 weeks ago
Don't confuse liberty with Libertarianism. Liberty is one of many components of Humanism Philosophy that is based on respect of each others humanity. It is Liberty that rejects (authoritarianism) for self determination through democracy. BTW... one problem I have with Islam is it is authoritarian.
AdogmaticEdwards 3 weeks ago
@AdogmaticEdwards Trust me. I know the differences quite well. As in Islam, I disagree 100%. The Quran doesn't say anything about authoritarian or democracy. Notably however, a careful study of the Quran will give the person the tools to chose what system they wish to live in. There is no compulsion in Deen. In that, there is not a set way that a human is to be alive. Hence, the Quran is free of that compulsion.
Teddy3inDC 3 weeks ago
@AdogmaticEdwards I get the feeling that you are against the same "islam" that I am. I am not for a religion or doctrine or dogma or institution that I did not chose. I did not chose any of those and do not feel they are legitimate. I do accept the Quran and Allah and that which is found therein, but I do not accept Hadith. So, all that which compels a person to authoritarianism is not even on my radar.
I could talk more about this is you want to personally. Another day at least.
Teddy3inDC 3 weeks ago
Libertarianism is a deadbeat political cult that lacks any balance between the individual and the society... Libertarians want freedom from social responsibility. All freedoms come from and are limited by responsibility we have to each other.
AdogmaticEdwards 3 weeks ago
@AdogmaticEdwards Freedoms aren't limited if there is virtue and mutual gain. That is liberation. Responsibility to those that are accepted into your construct (whatever the premise), is a mutual thing, and thus are accepted as part of your consideration.
If each individuals goals are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without trying to steal, murder, or enslave then the balance has been met. Too easy.
Teddy3inDC 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the share!
salam
johanizahri 1 month ago
As always great job!
TheTruthseekerman 1 month ago