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  • Religion is a virus that cures human

  • @tollce78 Religion cures humans of what? Common sense? Reality? Freedom?

    It's a socially accepted metal disorder, replace the word God with your dogs name and you would be on court ordered medication before you knew it.

  • Religion is an almost perfect virus. I'm glad there are people who are immune to it.

  • the abrahamic religion is a plague.

  • I just saw some video of Dawkins in hell and he's was apologizing I know for a opinion that even if Dawkins did go to hell he wouldn't repent and nether would any one

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  • the concept of religion is very well explained here.

    I dream of a world without that massive pile of garbage that are religions... life would be so peaceful.

  • @clusha2

    Hey, Stalin (an Atheist) dreamed of no religion too. He killed 20 Million people. I guess that's one way to achieve peace: kill off all your enemies, either religious or political.

  • @vader421138

    not a good example to debate my point.

    There is a worst case scenario in every situation!

  • @clusha2

    To exclude the crimes of some Atheists yet include the crimes of some religious people is an unfair standard. It is unreasonable to ignore the good of religion and focus only on the good, just as it is unfair to ignore the bad of Atheism and focus only on the good. How about we focus on the bad of science? Science has caused global warming, ozone depletion, deforestation, nuclear pollution, and a sundry of other current day problems. Shall we focus on those and ignore the good?

  • @clusha2

    "I dream of a world without that massive pile of garbage that is science... the environment would be less endangered."

    Does that sound fair?

  • @clusha2

    And before you bring up the possible point of "religion has caused more damage than these other examples" it would be good to note that for most of history, most of the population has consisted of religious people. Anything good or bad done was most likely by religious people. Atheism is only much more recently popular, and hasn't had a chance to shine yet, though they are off to a good start (Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, to name a few).

  • @vader421138 What you are missing is whether somebody just did something horrible, or whether somebody did something horrible BECAUSE of their beliefs. To make it simple I will compare Hitler and Stalin. Stalinism exercised gosateizm (state atheism) based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism. Atheism was a means to an end, not a cause (see one of my next comments). Hitler was religious and publicly decried atheism. He hated Jews BECAUSE of his religious beliefs, and publicly stated so.

  • @Blurtex33

    I'm glad you see my point (which is one bad argument deserves another). A more accurate assessment would be that Stalin hated religion, and therefore both was an Atheist and persecuted religions. The Crusades were done decidedly against Christian principles, just with a Christian name attached. It is just as fair to claim that what Stalin did against religion is a good example of Atheism.

  • @Blurtex33

    I think it is good to note that what Hitler stated publicly and what he actually believed were two different things. He was a follower of Nietzsche and Darwin in respect to destroy the weak and survival of the fittest. Just because he stated such as the reason for his massacre of people shouldn't, on its own, reflect on those ideologies.

  • @vader421138 Yes, Hitler, that is social darwinism. No evidence to believe his massacre wasn't because of his particular religious beliefs.

  • @Blurtex33

    His religious beliefs were pagan and his social belief was Darwin. I am pretty sure these are historically documented. I can try to find specific references if you'd prefer.

  • @vader421138 "The individual may establish with pain today that with the appearance of Christianity the first spiritual terror entered into the far freer ancient world, but he will not be able to contest the fact that since then the world has been afflicted and dominated by this coercion, and that coercion is broken only by coercion, and terror only by terror...

  • @Blurtex33 "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

  • @vader421138 "...Only then can a new state of affairs be constructively created. Political parties are inclined to compromises; philosophies never. Political parties even reckon with opponents; philosophies proclaim their infallibility."

  • @vader421138 Another simpler example is the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian, but that does not mean what he did was because of his vegetarianism. Or any other murderer who happens to be a vegetarian. Unless there is reason to believe that is why (saying he killed because he/she was a meat-eater)

  • @vader421138 An ad hominem deflection which demonstrates a failure to understand that atheism is simply a lack of belief in god(s), with no inherit moral, political or philosophical baggage, and thus no line can be drawn from it to the aforementioned ideologies. In the same vein democracy could be called atheistic.

  • @Blurtex33

    And I beg to differ: Atheism does have moral and philosophical baggage. To say there is no God is to say there is no intrinsic value of life. If life intrinsically has value, where do you get that principle from? You either borrow it from another worldview or you say that life doesn't have any intrinsic value.

  • @vader421138 Simply because you can't find intrinsic value in a godless universe, doesn't mean others can't.

  • @Blurtex33

    You didn't answer my question about intrinsic worth: If you personally believe that life has intrinsic value, from where do you derive that idea?

    Atheism is a materialistic worldview where we are cells and chemicals and genes striving for life if only to live (dancing to our DNA as Dawkins would have it). That is the same for plants and animals and any living thing. What differentiates us from any other group of cells short of our achievements so far?

  • @vader421138 "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

  • @vader421138 Social Darwinism and Eugenics supplant actual natural selection with an unobjective personal perception of ‘fitness’. They are based on bad biology (genetic variability is actually very important for a species) and are completely independent of atheism.

  • @Blurtex33

    And to Eugenics, if I may ask, why do abortion doctors recommend abortions in the case of babies with high probability of disabilities? By your logic we shouldn't do that. It is bad biology. Do you agree?

  • @vader421138 It doesn't matter if the crusades were done against your beliefs or what you consider to be true christianity, they were done because of their view.

  • @vader421138 When doctors recommend abortions because of serious mental disabilities, they are not basing it off of eugenics, but a more social concern that is left up to the parents. I am not educated in medicine enough to know much else, though.

  • @Blurtex33

    It is on a case by case basis. Some abortion doctors do just leave it up to the parents. Some doctors pressure to have abortions done (money is involved after all, eh? But that is my cynical side). But you didn't answer my question: Do you think we should try to dissuade eugenics in relation to abortion since it is bad biology?

  • @vader421138 To answer both your questions, we have the intelligence to be more than that.

  • @vader421138 It is documented that he was a Roman Catholic

  • @vader421138 (or any other type of value)

  • @vader421138 (the crusades would be a good, more historic point)

  • He's right.

  • Let’s work to eradicate all religion. Conversely, begin a relationship with Jesus Christ today. You need to repent. Yes, you. Moreover, you should ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10

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  • @paularenas26 Forget, no religion is utopic, too far away, we must strive for freedom of belief, secularism and laicism, then to educate the people, only then we will have the numbers to maybe become a majority group on the world.

  • @paularenas26 you are an absolute moron, you say you want rid of religion, but want a relationship with jesus christ?, ... jesus christ is part of a religion, as is sin, and as is god that you have mentioned, they are all key factors in; A RELIGION. If you think that you have a relationship with an invisible being then you are religious, and you do, so you are.

  • Dawkins telling the creationists what they don't want to hear again, keep up the good work.

    your religions are no more than viruses, and we have the cure.

  • @maxslither lol

  • @maxslither

    Well, your ideas of the cure, by what Dawkins said, is a virus too. You want the idea to replicate in the minds of many?

    He has basically included all ideas, valid or not, in his description. ANY idea could be considered viral by the comparison. Yes, even the idea that ideas are viral is a virus.

  • @vader421138 well done, that doesn't stop religion being a virus though does it.

    Ok the difference is quite simple religions have simply no factual evidence whatsoever to support them which is why they are an idea. atheism has evidence as a non-belief, scientists have disproved the bible on numerous occasions most notably the dating that the bible has is off on oh just a few billion years surely god knows when he made it all, I could go on. atheism isnt just an idea and so hence cant be a virus.

  • @maxslither

    If the dating of the age of the earth is the most scientifically contradictory thing that you can mention, I think we are in good shape.There are many theories on how to bring the two to harmony. I'm not quite sure what you mean by religion has no factual evidence to support it. Factual as in history corroborating claims made in religious texts?

    Philosophically, religions are systems of thought that answer 4 basic concepts: origin, meaning, morality, and destiny.....

  • @maxslither

    ....Christianity says humans are created in God's image, are meant to bring God glory, derive morality from what God has said in the Bible, and either will spend eternity with God or away from Him. Atheists also answer these questions. Origin is random chance through evolution, meaning is to propagate DNA and live for the moment, morality is what seems right to you and what is best for society, and destiny is dust and the legacy left behind.....

  • @maxslither

    ....While Atheists don't believe in a god, they do answer these questions. From a philosophical standpoint, that is a religion.

    Also, just to note, disproving Christianity still leaves many other religions to contend with. Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, New Age, to name a few.

  • I LOVE HIS VOICE!!!!

  • Dawkins is brilliant!

  • People should debate less about Dawkins' personality and more about his messages.

  • @AussieGeoffA There is no debate, science already won, people confess that by their actions of using computers over telepathy and prayer.

  • I love the lady's looks on her face!

  • Religions were created by politicians to empower themselves to control people. And the very power also tells us to separate state and church. History tells us that a plenty, tracing to the Roman Empire and Christianity. Religions and politicians are strange bed fellows. Most recently Saddam Hussein story... He was never a religious man, but in winning back the people, he built mosques, TV showed him pray and bow.

    This is 21st century we explore the universe and declare WE ARE GOD.

  • He is emotional and subjective in it's way of speaking.

  • Dawkins is to immature.

  • @TheOmnicell Shut up kid, how old are you? The man is one of the most mature man you'll ever known. Faced to deep christian idiots like O'Reily, Dawkins never lose himself in the world of unjustified emotional agressivity when being cornered...

  • @TheOmnicell Please tell me that was a joke......

  • spot on description really

  • dawkins is full of shit

  • @astroboirap I disagree. I think that Dawkins is brilliant.

  • @Myzaru no man, he's immature, childish and pompous. he needs to do something more productive.

  • @astroboirap Can you please explain why you think he is immature, childish and pompous? Because the only thing he does is using facts to make up a statement. Nothing immature, childish or pompous about that. I agree that what he does is not very productive. But that doesn't back up your first statement.

  • i was mentally raped by the church when I was young :(. I confess that I lived in a community which praised prayer much more than action believing that a prayer would solve what actions would. Dawkins is a beacon of hope and direction to many disillusioned human beings.

  • her attention is NOT in the room. haha she might be listening. but she doesnt hear him.

  • nice explanation.

  • i am not religious, i am a man seeking truth, i dont accept a book which has been written by man to create fear in people and accept it to be the word of god. i believed evolution for years but after watching these 3 very imformative videos i no longer can accept the theory of evolution. please watch these : water the great mystery full length on youtube, humans and dinosaurs coexist also on youtube and scientists present proof of intelligent design part 1-7. if you seek truth these will help

  • @10bhave I seek truth; therefore I know that evolution is true. I don't have to use the word believe because that entails that evolution could possibly not be believed. For example you don't say "I believe in gravity". You simply know that gravity exists. Just like the fact of evolution. I understand that you're seeking truth, but I don't believe you have been educated well enough to know the truth.

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