Scientologe Tom Cruise als Stauffenberg auf der Berlinale 09

[lindabrow78]

echt gutes video könnte echt so schön sein wenn mich einer vor dem allein sein rettet

[herbert4860]

diese Verleihung ist aus dem Jahr 2004...typische gute Recherche der Medien

[JNN08]

Good film,

The film showes that not all Germans were People like Hitler.

I'am German, and ich like this film .

[thehyborian]

it is a shame to humiliate any German historic character by giving a role to this sectarian worthless little american piece of tiny shit which refused to meet some SS veterans who could help about his also little and aslo worthless role created by cionists .He was shaken about jews in this movie , you know.

[Eurofighter82]

Trotz all meiner Zweifel muss ich sagen, dass es ein GROßARTIGER FILM war!

[Pacifica93]

nicht reingehen!!

[leguan1]

Tom is weird.

But the film IS GREAT!

[rw221192]

NONSENSE, NONSENSE, NONSENSE

dont be stupid!!

[LindiVid]

rotkohl123 wrote "don´t make such a big deal"

It's an opportunity for the world to boycott it & make a statement. That makes it a big deal.

It's been pushed back three times already to a Valentine's Day weekend spot so I think the point has already been made that this movie is an insult to a nation, an insult to the ex-scientology community & an insult to people's intelligence but we'll keep making the point anyway

BOYCOTT THIS MOVIE!! Even tho it's likely headed straight to DVD

[DCMclarenFan]

if its such an insult, the German government should have refused to let them film there, but thay didnt

[LindiVid]

DCMclarenFan wrote "such an insult, the German govt should have refused"

"The film team have been banned from the Berlin building where the plotter, Count Claus von Stauffenberg, was executed by Nazi firing squad.

Officially this is because of fears that filming would lower the dignity of a memorial.

But German politicians had earlier assailed Cruise, 45, over his advocacy of Scientology and demanded such a ban. Scientology is suspected by many Germans of being anti-democracy."-DPA

[mollie2810]

No, it's not only a movie. It's a propaganda video for a cult called Scientology. And they use a German hero for they propaganda.

[rotkohl123]

oh please don´t make such a big deal of it it´s a movie nothing else i thnink it will be great

[LindiVid]

I understand your concern and I'm not even trying to argue it. In fact, I'm agreeing. I'm just making the point that it's just a start and the opinions have to change globally. But don't worry, this movie has been made into a joke already. It's been moved back twice and now they've chosen Valentine's weekend for the opening? lol Nothing says 'I love you' like a good political assassination attempt on Hitler.

It wouldn't surprise me if the movie ended up going straight to DVD

[Glaubensfrei]

(1)Maybe the movie will go straight to DVD in the US but in Germany the topic of the movie has the potential to become as important for the public like the "Die Passion Christi" become for the fundamental Christian believers, Mel Gibsons is a hero for them. You must understand that our bloody history is still a big topic in school and media and most of us understand that our whole nation guilt is our legacy.

[Glaubensfrei]

(2)That's its way so many places schools streets are named by the siblings Scholl. The potential of the emotional benefit, that some of us stand against the regime, can be a big positive impact for Cruse. Scientology know that.

[LindiVid]

Glaubensfrei, I agree with you that every ticket sold is a good thing for scientology and a bad thing for Germany. But that's true everywhere. For every dollar someone spends on a Tom Cruise movie, money goes in his pocket and putting money in his pocket is as good as making a donation to the cult. Germany is, without doubt, the leader in the fight against organized scientology and the world should take notes but this is absolutely a global problem

[Glaubensfrei]

Right it's a global Problem but Germany is the main target in Europe and in the moment they try everything they can to get rid of their negative image in the German public. We Germans have bad experience with totalitarian systems and know a scientologist plays a German hero that tried to kill the leader of our totalitarian system of the past what bitter irony. He even got a price for courage for that.

[Glaubensfrei]

The press split about this issue. But if we manage to get the message out what is the true purpose of the film premier in Germany 2009 (Message: See Germans we see you like you want to be seen so see us like we want to be seen) lot less people will watch it.

[somecomputergeek]

Ich bin ein Amerikaner. Ich könnte den Deutschen in diesem Video nicht verstehen. Ich entschuldige mich für meinen armen Deutschen.

Was ist der Name dieses Films? Wurde dieser Film durch die Kirche von Scientology verursacht oder finanziert? Erwähnt Scientology im Film?

Sein lustiges. Scientology' s-Führer teilen viel im Common mit den Nazin.

[Glaubensfrei]

The name of the movie is Valkyrie. Cruse is playing a German hero that tries to assassinate Hitler.

[riply43]

Just one more comment then I`ll leave

you alone. The Americans have NO

idea why Germany was upset with the

movie amd Tom Cruise. The Scis

used this incident to take up their

old cry that Germany is Nazi!

[Glaubensfrei]

The purpose of this video isn't to inform the US about how Scientology is treated in Germany.

I just want to inform Germans about the aims of Scientology behind this movie and the release at the Berlinale in Germany 2009. I want them to think about it and see that every sold ticket works for Scientology reputation in Germany.

[riply43]

I also want to suggest you change the name to include Spiegal TV. Like anonmuc did. After the name put in big letters ENGLISH. I promise that if you put up an english version I will put postings on all the most watched sites. If you need any help with the translation contact me. But it doesn`t have to be perfect. This is very important. The scientolo- gists are under pressure now and they are like rabid dogs. They will stop at nothing to take over Germany.

[Glaubensfrei]

Germany is the main arena for scientology in Europe. And this movie is a symbol for them wining in Germany that is truly fighting against the anticonstitutional actions of Scientology.

They have invested huge amount of power and money in this project to make it a big symbol but it's up to use what this symbol will look like. ;)

[riply43]

Here`s the thing. The Scis in America are screaming to the press that Germany is a Nazi country and they are suffering "religious persecution". How can the americans know differently if Germany doesn`t speak up? They do everything they can to influence the US government to put pressure on the Germans. If you want to see Germany truly free from COS you must get the message out there in english.

[Glaubensfrei]

(2)

Then Cruse states in an interview: Berlin (Germany) has become my second home, Germany is a great country (and so on) ....Then they show the the Vid of Crusie talk on Scientology private party. Quoting the text: "What you say: "Will we clean this place up?" then they state andrei mortens assumption that the whole movie is a pr action for scientology in Germany.

The new release Date for the movie (5. February 2009) at this date the biggest German movie Festival starts the "Berlinale".

[Glaubensfrei]

(1)

LITTLE TRANSLATION

Then start by talking about the repeated date deferral of the release of Valkyrie. They explain that the movie failed totally at the foreseeing of the Movies in the USA so that its unclear if the movie will even be released in USA.

Then they talk about the German critics which were speaking out loudly against Cruse playing the Hitler assassin Stauffenberg during the shooting but then were silenced by the excellent pr work to Scientology.

[mollie2810]

Fredy Gareis also said that it's maybe a lie. I think that it was a lie and that they don't have important politicians between them.

Aber eine Übersetzung wäre wirklich gut. Dafür gibt es hier genug Publikum. ;)

[Glaubensfrei]

Wenn Du die Zeit hast mollie kannst Du ihn gern subben. An einfachsten geht das mit

direkt online auf overstream ;)

[riply43]

Scientologists in Berlin have a clear directive to descredit ANON and take

over the government.

Fredy Gareis said that while under-

cover the Scientologists told him

proudly - "We have already won

important politicians who would only

wait for a signal in order to admit

it publicly".

Don`t let them do it!!!!!!

[Glaubensfrei]

In the moment there influence on the German government is small clearly state by the last Court discussion where scientology tried to win on court against the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution for watching scientology.

[riply43]

Excellent video. I beg you to put this up with english subtitles. After anonmuc put up RTL Stern TV`s Fredy Gareis interview with english subtitles people all over the world watched it. Only the Germans have the right to say how Scientology will be treated in their land. The Scientologists are calling the Germans "Nazis" and claiming that they are suffering "religious persecution.

[Glaubensfrei]

thx ;)

Sorry don't have the time in the moment to subtitle it but I post a little translation of the main issues in the description box.

[mollie2810]

Nun wir wissen alle, wie das mit Stauffenberg ausgegangen ist. Bei Stauffenberg muss man sagen, dass er LEIDER gescheitert ist, aber Cruise wird mit seiner Sekte zum Glück scheitern. Und bis Februar ist ja noch so viel Zeit.

[felidae27]

Vielen Dank für diesen Beitrag! Tom Cruise hätte vielleicht eher Joseph Goebbels spielen sollen. Fragte er nicht gerade im Beitrag seine ScientologenanhängerInnen "Wollen wir diesen Platz säubern?" Antwort "Ja!". Das erinnert mich sehr an die Frage "Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?" mit entsprechender Reaktion der Beteiligten. Spannend ist für mich die Frage, inwieweit durch die Person Tom Cruise als Vorbild, fanatisch religiöse Denkweisen verbreitet werden. Subtile Indoktrination?!