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  • F1 on BBC LIVE 2012 PLEASE

  • While I'm not a fan of Vettel in anyway, he clearly deserved the 2011 championship because of his dominance. However, I dont believe he deserved 2010 title... I thought it should have gone to Mark Webber. Webber sadly got stuck behind Alonso and Petrov :(

  • @Xehanor - Even if Webber had got past Petrov, Alonso would have won the championship. I don't see how Webber deserved the 2010 title at all. How he managed to lose it is beyond me. Vettel had more wins and pole positions and despite making the most ridiculous errors costing him humongous points (turkey, hungary, belgium) and unfortunate mechanical failures while leading 3 different races costing even more points (bahrain, australia, korea) Webber STILL couldn't beat him!

  • @Anime998877 It's just my personal opinion alright? lol

  • @Xehanor - Well you can have a personal opinion. But you can't just say oh "this guy deserved the world championship more just because".

  • team tactics and because vettel is soo lucky¡¡

  • shut up¡¡¡ you haven´t got idea of f1 i watch f1 i was 7 years old,sevastian vettel always has got a good car but in 2008 he hasn´t got, like hamilton,

  • @fliszynski why aint webber winning then?

  • @supersubarujohndeere Webber is like Felipe Massa. Is it clear enough in your head? Put alonso or hamilton in the red bull car. hamilton may out qualify vettel and the more intelligent alonso wins on race day.

  • Most annoying commentating in history.

  • give him 2010 ferrari, he wouldnt be even in top 5.

  • @waty0usay1 Vettel's RBR was faster but clearly less reliable than the Ferrari. Give him a slightly slower but more reliable Ferrari, and he would have easily been in the top 5.

  • @waty0usay1 - Bullshit

  • @Anime998877 I agree

  • I feel vettel and hamilton are the only 2 top drivers who have this circuit sorted, they have had the front row 3 years in a row now.

  • EVEN A MONKEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A POLE POSITION WITH THIS CAR

  • @rOdRiIi69 No, you wouldn't.

  • @ohargreaves Perhaps you have not noticed but it is an exaggeration, anyway, that fucking car is far superior to other cars, it's not necessary to do any correction along the lap. I'd like to see Vettel with a car level with the rest.

  • @rOdRiIi69 Well, the Red Bull has been the best car over 2011 and 2010, but not in every race or qualifying session where Vettel took pole. Hungary and Japan 2011 for instance, saw the Mclarens on at least level terms, but they still couldn't take pole.

  • he didnt took the ideal line, but the car is fast enough for the pole. poor F1

  • one of the best drivers of all times, you can say what you want, if you are ferrari-fanatic or mclaren-fan, he has so many facts and prooves that make him to that, what he now is. he is a really brilliant driver, even if you don't like him, you have to agree to that. Or am I wrong ? :O

  • As much as I hate Vettel, I have to say, he rocks!

  • What is the song at the start of this? I've been looking for ages!

  • The most boring track, that I've ever seen-

  • @SJM1994London That is a poor excuse. If Red Bull favoured Webber and not Vettel, they wouldnt AS far ahead, but would still be ahead, and Webber would have won the WDC twice already.

  • @MetaKnightsKirby of course, webber would have won it twice.2009 + 2010+2011 victories vettel: 20, 2009+2010+2011 victories webber: 6. dream on..

  • @jort999 If The team put all their effort behind Webber, he would have won in 2010, and would have had a great chance of winning in 2011. If Vettel was not at Red Bull, (the comment I replied to claims Vettel is the only reason Red Bull are good), Webber would probably have won 2011 as well.

  • @MetaKnightsKirby loool... Webber has the same material as Sebastian. RB may have a preference on Vettel in race strategy, but nearly every team would act like this when having a point leader with such a great gap to the teammate... stop searching for accuses. Webber isnt't world champion because he is not as good as Vettel...

  • @Gryphon1984 I never said otherwise. I said if Red Bull favoured Webber the result wouldnt be much different to now.

  • @MetaKnightsKirby I don't believe Webber would have the skill to do it like Vettel... he is just not as quick as him. Vettel gains his success to a great part out of his strong qualifying performance, Webber hasn't got this... I do believe Webber would be slightly better than now concerning points, but i don't believe he would be world champion twice... if vettel had not such bad luck in 2010 in some races, he would then have been WC with a greater gap, too.

  • @MetaKnightsKirby - Do you think Red bull favoured Vettel in 2009? Why would they? It was vettel's first year at the team and they had to see how he held up against webber before deciding who was number 1. And in 2009 Vettel beat Webber in almost every category (race wins, poles, fastest laps,) and outqualfied Webber 15 times to 2. Vettel is deservedly red bull's number 1, if red bull favoured webber they would be holding the better driver back, which is stupid..

  • @MetaKnightsKirby I will give you only 2 examples that you are completely wrong: Seb finished the 2008 season in front of webber while he was driving a toro rosso (=backmarker) while webber was driving a red bull! And when vettel came to red bull in 2009 (it was his first year, they never would have favourised him) he beated webber too!! So i am asking you to give me an example of when red bull ever favourised vettel in terms of racing material?!!!

  • @jort999 The 2008 Bull and Toro were practically the same car, only the Toro had a much better Ferrari engine.

    Read again, I never said RB gave Webber 'worse material' (although they did do so in Silverstone 2010 for example).

  • @MetaKnightsKirby so if i have to believe you, red bull gave their SISTER team a better car then the team itself?? Of course not...

  • @SJM1994London Actually, Adrian Newey. He's the best designer of an F1 car ever.

  • @SJM1994London can't agree more,mate :)

  • @SJM1994London and yeah.. at final result 2008 vettel help toro rosso beat the regular team a.k.a RBR

  • Best qualifier since Senna.

  • turn 20 crazy speed

  • super boring track!!!

  • @bigraikkonenfan5 The sad thing is they had a billion US Dollars to play with and all this land, and what they produce is a few hairpins and chicanes.

  • @sniperartic check trap data from monza 2008. Vettel was on the driest setup of all 20 cars. His teammate however was on a wet setup

  • I Love the way Martin says at 1:42 virtually ignore's that one lol.

  • AMAZING AND A DIFFICULT TRACK 

  • @ beraider9 if he wouldnt win tht race in monza he would a be a noob, cuz u mustnt change ur setup after quali , and ferrari , mclaren etc. took dry setup and toro rosso gained it with rainsetup

  • @sniperartic - No Gerhard Berger said in an interview that Vettel took a dry setup for monza quali and in the race - he just owned everybody..

  • great round, great driver. THATS A WORLD CHAMPION!

  • @Q29K no thats a good car no a world champion¡¡

  • @fliszynski Vettel is a world champion. If you say it's the car, then go on every other champion's video and say the same, or stop using double standards.

  • @ohargreaves RB6 and RB7 is technogically more advanced than others. Just tell me in what way the RB6 and RB7 isnt one of the best cars of all time. Being so dominant while being reliable. Certain non finishes in 2010 was to vettel's error, the car itself is very reliable, able to finish atleast 80% of the races. It isnt the same for other world champion. Proof 2011, vettel just cruised to win the title. Just set pole position and run away. Its like Nigel Mansell in his williams FW14

  • @neerajmjj The fact he won it by over 100 points suggests that the car was more dominant, but also that if you reduced the car advantage, SV would have still won by a reasonable (but smaller) margin.

    BTW, Vettel's non- points finishes at Turkey and Belgium 2010 were driver error, while the non finishes at Australia and Korea 2010 were due to unreliability.

  • @ohargreaves Doubt it a lot. If he didnt had the car, he wouldnt be able to set pole position. As we all know, vettel isnt very good in traffic and not a very good overtaker(except for some rare occasion where he overtakes slower cars such as ferrari). BTW in 2010, 2 reliability problem in 19 races is abt 90% of reliability. The car is very very reliable.

  • @neerajmjj You can doubt it all you like, but at the end of the day, he's champion until someone comes out and beats him. The RB7 was the best car overall in 2011, but wasn't dominant in every race Vettel won, nor every qualifying session he got pole. It was just a combination of top driver plus top car.

    In 2010, he lost the most points of the championship contenders to unreliability (instead of 3 wins in Bahrain, Australia and Korea, he ended up with 1 fourth place when the car let him down).

  • @ohargreaves If alonso was in that red bull, guarantee he is become the world champion. Becoz, he has everything, good pace, tyre management, qualifying pace, overtaking skills, intelligent car setup. Alonso is way more deserving than vettel. In Australia, it was a loosen wheel which was the problem, team error not car!!

  • @neerajmjj There's no such thing as being "more deserving" if you don't actually win. Alonso deserved his championships in 05 and 06, Vettel deserves his championships in 10-11. I agree that Alonso is the best all rounder, in that he has less weaknesses than the other frontrunners.

  • @ohargreaves The red bull is almost 1.5 second quicker than a ferrari(australia qualifying). Its clearly, a much faster car than his competitors. The championship won by the FW14, u think its deserving?? Not at all. During Alonso's championship, he didnt had a car that is 1.5 quicker than a mclaren or ferrari. And also dont forget the weight advantage of SV over webber.

  • @neerajmjj If you look at the qualifying times, you'll see that Red Bull only beat the next fastest car by 0.5 or more on only 4 occasions. Sure, Vettel may have more of an advantage than Alonso did, but he's exploited that advantage to take more wins than Alonso did in 05 or 06.

    The concept of deserving means nothing. F1 is about receiving a package and exploiting it. The one who gets the best results with it wins. The same as it has been since 1950. "Deserving" doesn't even come into it.

  • @ohargreaves Bullshit, are you even using your brain or are you answering just for the sake of having answered?? Drivers skills is neglected that way, that's what FIA wants to prevent, FIA want a race, not domination. 0.5 s is huge in formula 1. And also SV doesnt deserve all his wins such as in Monaco 2011. In canada, he everything kept falling into place for him but he made a mistake at the end, still very lucky to finish 2nd.

  • @neerajmjj The gap was often far less than 0.5s. Like 9 thousandths in Suzuka.

    The FIA don't want domination, but a team can dominate of they have a top driver and do a better job. That's what happened in 2011.

    Seriously, it's you who keeps going on Vettel videos to stupidly drone on about how lucky or undeserving he is, then throw insults around when the other person doesn't give in and agree with you. Vettel's a 2 time F1 champion whether you like it or not, and you're just a common troll.

  • @ohargreaves Who was the one acknowledge that Sv had a weight advantage? I also agree that SV has great qualifying skills. But his win in Monaco was really lame and his championship wins was like Nigel Mansell whether u like or not.

  • @neerajmjj Okay, at least there is some common ground there. SV is a great qualifier, and being lighter gives him an advantage. 2011 was a similar championship win to Mansell's, but I still say that Mansell and Vettel deserved their title. Obviously you think they didn't, so we might as well agree to disagree. Enjoy the 2012 season.

  • @ohargreaves Vettel made good use of his car's potential(espeacially to set pole and cruise in the race, rare occasion was in spain where we saw him really defending) Vettel didnt win the championship. The car won it for him. Like I said, it was like Nigel Mansell in his FW14.

  • @fliszynski shut the fuck up you have no idea noob!

  • look at that kid he was just lucky to get worldchampion fernando alonso is way better than all the other drivers at the moment he just doesn t have the fastest car with ferrari but that will change soon king Alonso!!

  • I encourage Sebastian Vettel and I hope he wins in all competitions

  • beautifull in the hd option

  • put him in another F1 car see if he can go as fast for example let see if he can beat Alonso in the Ferrari as i believe the majority of Vettels success is down to the cars speed although he is a very fast driver probally second best to Alonso and i real do belive Vettle creates his own luck and he deserves every bit of it but id like to see him be brought down a notch as the races are becoming a little one sided as its rea just Vettel against himself.

  • @MaGicMik3z not a fan but remember who won Monza with TORO ROSSO? I mean: TORO ROSSO!

  • @beralder9

    He olny won that cuz off Changing Weather

  • @TheLynxPk No. In racing you CANNOT win because of the weather. You can win because you are better to read he whether then the others, but that is not the same. They won because Vettel and his car was the best on that weekend. You can't say that it was because of the weather, because they were all driving in the same weather. It isn't the weathers fault that the others can't get a good lap in. It is their own fault, because they didn't see it coming.

  • @beralder9 torro was the fastest car that weekend... not all that impressive

  • @steflotti105 oh really? the fastest car was driving by itself..don't tell me..

    please stop be haters, I'm a Raikkonen fan but it's no drama to admit vettel has huge talent...

  • @beralder9 no but its no as impressive as people make out it to be, when the car is so competitive.

    lewis had a run of 9 podium finishs in his first 9 formula 1 races, that is raw talent at its greatest.. hamilton first every race start, he went round the outside of 3 drivers including his 2 time world champion team mate.. vettel is a great driver, in the best car with an older team mate who is past his prime and struggled to get to grips with the tyres all seaon makin him look better than he is

  • @steflotti105 we're just saying vettel is a great driver, as you just said. that's it.

    now that raikkonen's gone I'm Hamilton supporter, Hami is the best, we agree, and Vettel is great driver, we agree again.

    this is what this video is about.

  • @beralder9 agreed, just bugs when all the vettel fans bring up monza..

  • @steflotti105 Lewis was good his first 2 seasons. Remember who else came out the box with fire? Villeneuve, and what happened to him? Great talent is that which is acquired over time and experience, not natural talent. Obviously they all have that, but Hamilton had a ridiculous amount. Now he is in the true proving period: he's had wrecks, he's screwed up several times, and he has to keep his head. Schumacher gained talent over time, so has Vettel, Hamilton not so much in my opinion.

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  • @beralder9 the best part was toro rosso was the former minardi ...the HRT of the past:D

  • @beralder9 TORO ROSSO!!!!! ^^

  • @beralder9 He only won coz of changing conditions. Like Nico Hulkenburg got pole position in Brazil in 2010 by almost a full second he out qualified others. But race day was bone dry, and obviously got overtaken. Vettel was lucky that it was raining on race day + torro rosso have a better straight line speed which made him win at Monza. He worked hard to win but also damn so lucky

  • @neerajmjj no way! really?

    so what you're saying is that there is a REASON behind vettel's victory...

    wow that's impressive! I thought victories came from the sky... for some magical reason...

    so yes vettel won because his car at that moment was better balanced than others.

    so the one with the best balanced car wins. wow, that never happened in history...

  • @beralder9 What the shit are you talking??? Dont talk in riddles.

  • @neerajmjj I'm saying that it is OBVIOUS that there is a reason, for vettel's victory. of course he had best balanced car for that day. because it's always like that.

  • @MaGicMik3z I agree, but look at Monza 2008, he got Toro Rosso's maiden victory. It'd be good to see if he can pull the same trick in a HRT or a Virgin though.

  • El mejor de todos SEBASTIAN VETTEL.

  • perfect !

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