F1 drivers have my respect now, i mean, they cant see anything and they still fight against with nearly 300 km/h on wet track. I think F1 drivers have lot of spirit and balls in their pants.
@FarmACDCFreak Renault is kicking ass. They've swept the back and middle of the field as far as car/driver development goes since the beginning of the year (remember, in '09 Renault was a back runner with Alonso). He's always in the top 7. I hope Kubica has the patience to stay with Renault and allow the program to build around him and Petrov. I'm really hoping for a surprise win from Kubica this year.
@aronk187 Incase you haven't notice, Kubica has extended his contract with renault :) He is happy with the changes they are making and he'll be pole any time soon, i hope in 2011 the KERS changes doesn't really affect his driving style.
Kubica really did great there! But in todays season it looks like Massa isn't really as sharp anymore. I think Kubica can take Massa's seat in that Ferrari next season or the 2012 season if Massa don't get back into it again.
@fabaum22 Maybe because he will do whatever it takes to get the win... even if is complaining with the team to get pass or refuel too soon and waiting for a crash
One of the greatest wheel-on-wheel fights ever. Both drivers at their best. If there was a Piquet or somebody like him both would have failed to see the finish.
@marcjusz Dude you did not just say this. If you know f1 you know that if you have rain the cars are very close togheter. It does not matter that mutch if you are in a ferrari then or a BMW
I know the conditions must have been hard but i've always thought this whole battle was almost comical. Drive more smartly off the track and win. Stupid tarmac run-off areas.
If you are trying to say it's because Kubica cut the chicane at the start of S3, then he already did give the place back straight away for the corner afterwards.
This is already a classic! Really awesome stuff, both of them have shown great skills pushing each other out of the track! brilliant, Massa is the man!!!
Massa is the best pilot in Ferrari now. Before was Kimi and before Schumi. Now Massa is ready to go...! Alonso will no be the best mate for Massa, he is good but Massa is better. Go Massa..! get Ferrari back on track this 2010.
Massa is the best pilot in Ferrari now. Before was Kimi and before Schumi. Now Massa is ready to go...! Alonso will no be the best mate for Massa, he is good but Massa is better. Go Massa..! get Ferrari back on track this 2010.
Kubica put his rear wheel on the slippery paint of the curb on the exit of the final corner. He got lots of oversteer and was forced to lift-off the throttle to avoid spinning, allowing Massa to beat him to the line.
@tjbayliss No giving back the position there. Massa was thrown on tarmac and had somehow traction, which helped him build speed before Kubica exits the corner. The only thing to overcome is the grass between the piece of tarmac he landed into and the actual track.
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I like how they each very carefully pushed each other off the road. They each came to the "i'm already there, you can't do anything about it except to risk damage by 'staying strong' on the line" and each decided the point of contention was so equivalent that they would not give in to that achievment of positional superiority, thus when their tires were aligned, each would give the other a gentle shove in the wrong direction. Thanks for putting this fascinating video on Youtube.
If this fight was between Hamilton and Alonso and Hamilton took the position we would never hear the end of it, especially if ITV were still showing F1.
This fight was really hardcore, I was surprised they both get to finish line when I saw this for the first time. I think they both get carried away since it wasn't exactly fair play. Anyway Massa had much better car at that time which tells us much about Kubica and his skills.
Felipe's car was better, but excuse me, on wet it wasn't. Some bad cars behave on wet like they're the best cars on the Grid( Vettel's Toro Rosso at Monza 2008 ). So this was a pretty even fight in my opinion and Felipe wasn't and isn't great on wet as was the F2007. Still, Massa managed to pass through because of his will and passion.
For as long as I can remember, rain has been the equalizer of cars. Now, there are cars that are designed to perform better in the rain? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? The best drivers shine in the rain, not the best car.
@Desmosedici39 Do you realize how ridiculous you sound. Let me explain you what I meant, OK ?! I didn't mean someone design their cars to perform better on wet, OK ?! Where did you see that ? What I meant is the car's geometry and aerodynamics that makes it work better on dry or on wet depending on the set of tyres equiped. I didn't mean that Toro Rosso designed their car to be quick on wet. What I said is that F2008 was atrocious on wet and F2007 was too, OK ?! Now stfu !
@Desmosedici39 Let's put then on snow to see who's the best out there, if you think that the rain shows us the best drivers ! Bullshit ! If someone is quicker when it's dry and slower on wet, it doesn't mean he's worse than someone who's quicker on wet. Shumacher was days quicker than anyone on wet, still many thin he wasn't quicker than Hakkinen, Montoya, Alonso, Hill and others, but just could set up his car better. If you're quick on dry, you're quick on wet, u just need to set your car, OK ?
Read with understanding - I'm not saying he'd done wrong, but he should have been penalised with adding extra seconds to his race time. He took advantage of running wide OUT of the track and that is not fair.
they both did multiple times, twice each. And looking at it the were side my side when massa went wide so it is debatable weather he gained an advanteg or not.
I think he did gain an advantage because it seems a little more dry off the track so could give it more throttle, besides - it's OFF the track, when you go off during or under overtaking you should let your opponent pass you on the following straight, am I wrong?
yeah, but as is normal in heavy rain the rules are more leinient, also they would have to decide weather kubica gained an advantage wit his offs. but in the old dayd do this = hero, now do this in dry weather = bad driving.
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illpwnyou1 1 year ago
1:23 Massa was pretty smart hahaha
26011987 1 year ago
@26011987 smart? he didnt do shit he just kept the racing line and went
Ch33s3Puffs 1 year ago
@Ch33s3Puffs i guess you are smart then ... pay attention and you will find out, or u can drive like my old lady 4 life
WrxSTIdriver1 1 year ago
Real racing is done WHIT OUT TRACTION CONTROL!!!!!!!
elmaxidelsur 1 year ago
My favorite body style of all of f1
elementx153 1 year ago
Imagine this fight without TC ! EPIC !
tracto91 1 year ago
FERRARO SHIT !!!!
GREAT BMW!!!!
FROM ITALY
lazzialotto95 1 year ago
that should look rain in f1 2010, this is realy real rain
george240986 1 year ago
it was unfair when they started to push each other out of the track (first Massa). but nice fighting anyway
thfFromRussia 1 year ago
very impresive they didnt crash! thumbs up and favorite!
juvmol 1 year ago
true is that massa overtook robert, because he got out of the track on last turn.
celestaking 1 year ago
intensive, brilliant racing here. love it.
Ho1nT02 1 year ago
would have been real good without traction control...
DCDUBHH 1 year ago
how do they see where they are going with all that spray?!?!?!?!????
Nickomfacc 1 year ago 2
@Nickomfacc they dont!!!
samiojo 1 year ago
why did they use fuji instead of suzuka in 2007??
patukka24 1 year ago
wow that was freaky close at some moments xd
jort999 1 year ago
best era of Massa
ViniciusLimaRS 1 year ago
Gooo robert. my favorite driver!!
cibaca1 1 year ago
Thats just sick how wet that is.
PStaffan 1 year ago
Respect for both.
gogamich 1 year ago 2
This was a disgrace to wet racing and a digrace to Kubica What a sloppy joke of a battle. F1 Faux fans rejoice
FRFM00 1 year ago
@FRFM00 Yes Massa and Kubica should be shot for this. They should never be allowed to race in the wet, ever again!
Dumbass.
ZimmermanTelegram 1 year ago
esse e nosso dali massa .....
marciobife 1 year ago
How did Massa get the drive to win that after he went off on the last corner?
Bristecom 1 year ago
man its dificult so driving with rain
TheZizou0505 1 year ago
what a shit ! They were driving out of the track a lot of time.
NicklausF159 1 year ago
just like villeneuve and arnoux fight
kamcio8520 1 year ago 2
@kamcio8520 that's just what I though! XD
VotreCauchemar 1 year ago
F1 drivers have my respect now, i mean, they cant see anything and they still fight against with nearly 300 km/h on wet track. I think F1 drivers have lot of spirit and balls in their pants.
sunhineisonline 1 year ago 2
@sunhineisonline all profesional drivers have to have big balls and be a bit crazy
filipzanetic 1 year ago
fucking awesome
LOOP2012 1 year ago 3
gotta hand it to those guys, serious guts racing wheel to wheel in awful conditions at near 200 mph...respect
dermot79 1 year ago
INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!
xlglobetrotterxl 1 year ago
Love the sound of that traction control, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
crazymxrider 1 year ago
@crazymxrider there's no traction control in F1
drunkhomer 1 year ago
@drunkhomer You dont think I know that? You do realize this video is from a few years back when they still had TC in F1.
crazymxrider 1 year ago
@crazymxrider there was no TC in 2008
drunkhomer 1 year ago
@drunkhomer I know that too, but this video is from 2007.
crazymxrider 1 year ago
i think massa was a little bit naughty
benno151 1 year ago
Ah, I remember this. Great battle.
Snaptainment 1 year ago
Kubica just likes to pus ppl of the track :)
Boocho88 1 year ago
@Boocho88 bullshit... Massa has started first !!! =)
dAda313 1 year ago
great battle in the rain on the last lap LOL! wow!
metalgear01 1 year ago 2
why massa slows down so much at the end of the lap
hartomandilo 1 year ago
@hartomandilo It's the last lap and the end of the race.
slungbungdungclung 1 year ago
@hartomandilo
because it was the last lap ;)
inyourface1983 1 year ago
muy buen video, estos dos guerreros pelearon en toda la vuelta, un error y se les hubiera acabado la carrera ante de tiempo
kybusch18 1 year ago
kubica is the best outsider driver. he deserves a better team than renault
FarmACDCFreak 1 year ago
@FarmACDCFreak Renault is kicking ass. They've swept the back and middle of the field as far as car/driver development goes since the beginning of the year (remember, in '09 Renault was a back runner with Alonso). He's always in the top 7. I hope Kubica has the patience to stay with Renault and allow the program to build around him and Petrov. I'm really hoping for a surprise win from Kubica this year.
aronk187 1 year ago
@aronk187 Incase you haven't notice, Kubica has extended his contract with renault :) He is happy with the changes they are making and he'll be pole any time soon, i hope in 2011 the KERS changes doesn't really affect his driving style.
Claymore2408 1 year ago
thats racing thats what we want to see
zockerfreaks 1 year ago 3
Massa is just as good as Kubica. End of story.
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harednuta 1 year ago
Both are great drivers!
NesoDomino 1 year ago
bravo Kubica !!!
mrooce 1 year ago
Both drivers did a phenomenal job here. This is what racing is all about. A fight of the decade.
carlsberg24 1 year ago
Kubica Ferrari 2011
darkness2121 1 year ago
lol, very "clean" battle :D
thfFromRussia 1 year ago 2
Kubica really did great there! But in todays season it looks like Massa isn't really as sharp anymore. I think Kubica can take Massa's seat in that Ferrari next season or the 2012 season if Massa don't get back into it again.
dude2106 1 year ago
@dude2106 Yes, I've noticed. :/ He isn't in his best time lately... Maybe the '09 accident to blame(?).
Still, pity.
fabaum22 1 year ago
@fabaum22 yeah probably. It really is a shame, because i would like to see Massa show Alonso who is the boss.
dude2106 1 year ago
@dude2106 So do I, mate... Alonso isn't really my favorite driver... He knows how to drive, but he's annoiyng, somehow.
fabaum22 1 year ago
@fabaum22 Maybe because he will do whatever it takes to get the win... even if is complaining with the team to get pass or refuel too soon and waiting for a crash
dalljalminha 1 year ago
nice fight
swissairforcefan 1 year ago
great battle on final lap, i remember !
DominarTyranT1 1 year ago
fantastic racing by the pair
TommyClith 1 year ago 2
good massa
DjBassline96 1 year ago
polacke no compromise : this is great RIDE.
Bravo Kubica.
filiprmax1 1 year ago
One of the greatest wheel-on-wheel fights ever. Both drivers at their best. If there was a Piquet or somebody like him both would have failed to see the finish.
mpettel 1 year ago 3
The thing is that the Ferrari was a lot more of a car than the BMW. So I guess we all know who the better driver is...
odracirseraoseia1999 1 year ago 2
joder..cuantas veces se echan el uno al otro...
castelbcn 1 year ago
lol massa likes contact, he uses all the wide of the track even if Kubica is there xD Then kubica makes the same that was a good one
belmon125 1 year ago 2
@belmon125
You right...If Massa want to pass you,he will always touch your car. :|
TakumiFujiwara80 1 year ago
@TakumiFujiwara80 except Mc Hammer's ;)
HeeVindinho 1 year ago
Kubi better
scolaherman 1 year ago
@superjarri: lol that wasn t unfair .... can you it better? its so hard to drive in this wether ...
Marc70095 1 year ago
One of my favourite f1 battles.
cpz4civ 1 year ago
This is on par with the great battle between Villeneuve and Arnoux at Dijon in '79. The stuff of legend.
cmccarthy 1 year ago 3
heheheh Massa > Kubica
use the rules and the car to make the best position.
godsmackssa 1 year ago
control track humidity f1
RUI28100 1 year ago
Kubica brilliant driving, Massa totally unfair movements. He deserves a penalty 1:09 !!!
superjarri 1 year ago
it's not racing unless ur swapping paint
420KushBlazin 1 year ago
this is definitely one of the best fights of the last times, kubica deserves a chance in big team
OREIO2 1 year ago 5
one of the best fights the last years!
dAda313 1 year ago 22
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Both are not doing a good job - they push each other off the track. No good overtaking at all...
rfactormo 1 year ago
@rfactormo you're an idiot...
DriftSquadBart 1 year ago
phew they earned their money that day
eaglespwn 1 year ago 2
Ultrapassagens espetaculares? Coisas de Felipe Massa.
katataut 1 year ago
Nice driving, from both! :)
Edman1993TAKE3 1 year ago
great fight
avix213 1 year ago
Caralho! Que foda! :D
willianzzin 1 year ago
excellent!!!!
MrLalalooney 1 year ago 2
dirty massa
dogboyzz 1 year ago
Ferrari 2 times better than bmw in that time... and even this Kubica was great.
marcjusz 1 year ago 74
@marcjusz Dude you did not just say this. If you know f1 you know that if you have rain the cars are very close togheter. It does not matter that mutch if you are in a ferrari then or a BMW
GTRGPF1com 1 year ago
@marcjusz Rain is the great equalizer.
IndyBally 1 year ago
@marcjusz In those conditions, the car makes very little difference.
Still, good driving by Bob aswell as baby.
ZePivotMaster 1 year ago
@ZePivotMaster Beetween F1 cars you can find important differences in many areas, even ease of drive in heavy rain - look at Renault R30.
Kubakpsv 1 year ago
@marcjusz 100000000000000000000000% prawdy!!!! Szacunek!!!!!!!!
cinek2398 1 year ago
I know the conditions must have been hard but i've always thought this whole battle was almost comical. Drive more smartly off the track and win. Stupid tarmac run-off areas.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
i cant see sh*t with the onboard, cam it's impressive that both kubica and massa could see enough to take the risks they did.
LeJimster 1 year ago 3
If you are trying to say it's because Kubica cut the chicane at the start of S3, then he already did give the place back straight away for the corner afterwards.
tjbayliss 1 year ago
ferrari - better car than bmw
kubica - better driver than massa
adrcyg 1 year ago
This is already a classic! Really awesome stuff, both of them have shown great skills pushing each other out of the track! brilliant, Massa is the man!!!
kazula69 1 year ago 19
TREMENDO RUEDA A RUEDA.
vi6vi6 1 year ago 2
Massa is the best pilot in Ferrari now. Before was Kimi and before Schumi. Now Massa is ready to go...! Alonso will no be the best mate for Massa, he is good but Massa is better. Go Massa..! get Ferrari back on track this 2010.
Speedracer7065 1 year ago
Massa is the best pilot in Ferrari now. Before was Kimi and before Schumi. Now Massa is ready to go...! Alonso will no be the best mate for Massa, he is good but Massa is better. Go Massa..! get Ferrari back on track this 2010.
Speedracer7065 1 year ago
It does look like Massa un-wound the wheel 2 or 3 times, trying to give Kubica no room
But that's not against the rules, Hamilton did it to Massa in Hockenheim 2008, and Alonso does it all the time
This is one of the best battles i've ever seen in the rain.
Surprised Kubica didn't get there first tho.
tjbayliss 1 year ago
@tjbayliss
he had to give back position, becouse of pushing massa out of track on last corner
Norbi224466 1 year ago
In the last corner it just looks like Kubica has done it.
I mean how can Massa get ahead when hes bumping all over the outside rumblestrip and grass
Kubica just vanished behind... and he had the inside line, so what happened :P
tjbayliss 1 year ago 3
@tjbayliss
lol i've just told you, he had to give position back to Massa
Norbi224466 1 year ago
There is no reason for him to have to give the place back.
If anything, Massa should have been given a penalty for pushing Kubica off the track 2 times.
On the last corner, Kubica has the inside line, Massa is wide, and cuts the outside of the corner.
At no stage before that did Kubica do anything wrong, that would mean he had to give the place back.
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tjbayliss 1 year ago
@tjbayliss
Kubica put his rear wheel on the slippery paint of the curb on the exit of the final corner. He got lots of oversteer and was forced to lift-off the throttle to avoid spinning, allowing Massa to beat him to the line.
You can see it external shots.
Senna4ever8 1 year ago 4
Ok I understand now :)
tjbayliss 1 year ago
@tjbayliss No giving back the position there. Massa was thrown on tarmac and had somehow traction, which helped him build speed before Kubica exits the corner. The only thing to overcome is the grass between the piece of tarmac he landed into and the actual track.
yanava 1 year ago
Gilles villeneuve will be proud ....
4JUGE4 1 year ago 7
its like doing the tango, but at 170mph with 900hp! lol
1motivateddevildog 2 years ago 3
Kubica Great!
lukaszooo997 2 years ago 8
massa was very clean. watch again, no touching!!
however, massa hit alonso's mclaren from behind once
covGuk 2 years ago 6
But massa touched Kubica. 1:09
supersim2008 1 year ago 4
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dirty massa...
dogboyzz 2 years ago
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Fuck you
fabsternyc 2 years ago
que buen video! no habia visto la carrera!
FormulaTaringaSpeed 2 years ago
Nerves of steel.....both drivers!!!!!
bigredbosshog 2 years ago 12
best racing moment of that season! period!
rapperzondernaam 2 years ago 8
BEST BEST BEST EVER
Ionehovistedicose 2 years ago 6
That's just amazing... the drivers have such a bad view even without the blinding rain!
tubeyou443 2 years ago 14
KUBICA THE BEST !
grigir82 2 years ago 7
That's really fighting with a good end!!
HardRockWolf93 2 years ago 5
they taking using all the track a bit far
ferrarif169 2 years ago
Sensacional, não canço de vereste vídeo. Show de pilotagemtanto de Massa quanto de Kubica
renevitoria 2 years ago
Today these fights are very rare!
sesselfurzer2000 2 years ago
massa or vettel wc 2011 and im happy ^.^
patukka24 2 years ago
both massa and kubica were great on this lap! Really outstanding!
NhonhoPlx 2 years ago 40
im trying to upload some f1 vids but i wanna get rid of that f1 logo at the bottom left of the screen, coz i dont want f1 management to claim copyright on me
beyblader10171 2 years ago
Felipe Massa é o cara!
djmusicalex 2 years ago 3
I like how they each very carefully pushed each other off the road. They each came to the "i'm already there, you can't do anything about it except to risk damage by 'staying strong' on the line" and each decided the point of contention was so equivalent that they would not give in to that achievment of positional superiority, thus when their tires were aligned, each would give the other a gentle shove in the wrong direction. Thanks for putting this fascinating video on Youtube.
Spherian7 2 years ago
Wow that Ferrari had soo much grip . . .
UniGlam2009 2 years ago
what a fight
fight of legends ^^
kks5522 2 years ago 6
Amazing! é isso que se espera de um piloto da Ferrari!
AleRL7 2 years ago
AWESOMME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quovardiss 2 years ago 2
zajebiste macanie w takich warunkach masakra....
morwa21 2 years ago
thats not nice. Somone keeping off the track
SanMiguel17Ekclan 2 years ago
TC produces a broken sound-like a baby shaking a rattler!!!LOL
AhBoOn86 2 years ago
TC - broken sound, it's like the engine has a problem.
SashKaLakers 2 years ago
Amazing! Two galacticic drivers!
COCHISE710226 2 years ago 14
TC! what an awful sound! still, the most entertaining battle of the year shame it wasn't that significant, imagine if it was for the lead!
FormulaOneFan4Eva 2 years ago 2
The traction control is working all the time lol
RacingPhilNici 2 years ago
go massa uhuuuu
S4kit4 2 years ago
Awesome stuff!
If this fight was between Hamilton and Alonso and Hamilton took the position we would never hear the end of it, especially if ITV were still showing F1.
Schuey4ever 2 years ago 6
This fight was really hardcore, I was surprised they both get to finish line when I saw this for the first time. I think they both get carried away since it wasn't exactly fair play. Anyway Massa had much better car at that time which tells us much about Kubica and his skills.
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haha the car wasn´t much better..and in the wet it was about the same..
bourlivak88 2 years ago
on stretches it's still faster even on the wet track.
freezer247 2 years ago
Felipe's car was better, but excuse me, on wet it wasn't. Some bad cars behave on wet like they're the best cars on the Grid( Vettel's Toro Rosso at Monza 2008 ). So this was a pretty even fight in my opinion and Felipe wasn't and isn't great on wet as was the F2007. Still, Massa managed to pass through because of his will and passion.
SashKaLakers 2 years ago 3
For as long as I can remember, rain has been the equalizer of cars. Now, there are cars that are designed to perform better in the rain? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? The best drivers shine in the rain, not the best car.
Desmosedici39 2 years ago
@Desmosedici39 Do you realize how ridiculous you sound. Let me explain you what I meant, OK ?! I didn't mean someone design their cars to perform better on wet, OK ?! Where did you see that ? What I meant is the car's geometry and aerodynamics that makes it work better on dry or on wet depending on the set of tyres equiped. I didn't mean that Toro Rosso designed their car to be quick on wet. What I said is that F2008 was atrocious on wet and F2007 was too, OK ?! Now stfu !
SashKaLakers 2 years ago
@Desmosedici39 Let's put then on snow to see who's the best out there, if you think that the rain shows us the best drivers ! Bullshit ! If someone is quicker when it's dry and slower on wet, it doesn't mean he's worse than someone who's quicker on wet. Shumacher was days quicker than anyone on wet, still many thin he wasn't quicker than Hakkinen, Montoya, Alonso, Hill and others, but just could set up his car better. If you're quick on dry, you're quick on wet, u just need to set your car, OK ?
SashKaLakers 2 years ago
Listen to the TC, omg so glad that's gone now!
Danno57 2 years ago
one of best F1 fight ever :)
ktglenkt 2 years ago 13
Bloody brilliant.
Superb driving from both men.
Stereolabdream 2 years ago 8
best batel position on 2007 seazon f1.kubica win for me!
damiano261184 2 years ago 8
2007:
Ferrari - 22 times on the podium
BMW - 2 times on the podium
( If I'm not mistaken ) ;D
who had better bolide??? ;D
111kylo 2 years ago 6
he did not thrilled, because this guide in the brazilian
MLukasMP 2 years ago
then say that Massa can not drive in the rain, Mass the best driver at the time.
MLukasMP 2 years ago
He spin and spin on wet in one of the race and yes its a red car
zhen86 2 years ago
This shows two of the best drivers of todays F1
filipenf 2 years ago 4
nichts gegen massa, aber er hat kubica mehr aus der strecke rausgedrängt/geboxt als sauber überholt. Alles andere als fair ist das!!!
huhu1812 2 years ago
f1 işte bu ya gerçekten tek kelimeyle mükemmel supersin massa
kimera34 2 years ago
2007 Ferrari had the best traction
xXxlllManHacklllxXx 2 years ago 3
your dead right!! and they saved there tyers the best aswell id love to no how the done that back then
eendaa 2 years ago
how that much water doesnt ruin those cars baffles my mind
stopnigling 2 years ago
The last corner's exit is bullshit. Why is it legal to take advantage of the run-of area?? It's nonsense.
DePalmez 2 years ago
what did massa needed to do then??? brake and spin out? or stay on his line and crash into robert?? he did very well!
L3Toni 2 years ago 4
Read with understanding - I'm not saying he'd done wrong, but he should have been penalised with adding extra seconds to his race time. He took advantage of running wide OUT of the track and that is not fair.
DePalmez 2 years ago
they both did multiple times, twice each. And looking at it the were side my side when massa went wide so it is debatable weather he gained an advanteg or not.
MetaKnightsKirby 2 years ago
I think he did gain an advantage because it seems a little more dry off the track so could give it more throttle, besides - it's OFF the track, when you go off during or under overtaking you should let your opponent pass you on the following straight, am I wrong?
DePalmez 2 years ago
yeah, but as is normal in heavy rain the rules are more leinient, also they would have to decide weather kubica gained an advantage wit his offs. but in the old dayd do this = hero, now do this in dry weather = bad driving.
MetaKnightsKirby 2 years ago