Good Morning America Polygamous Sects Aired 7/7/08

[shortylovesyou18]

This isn't real polygamy. Polygamy is about love and extended family.

[shortylovesyou18]

i just want to point out that this is not a norm in all polygamous families. there are some where there is no abuse, and no mistreatment.... we don't need to have a ban on polygamy , but just like with monogamous marriage, the government needs to have it controls. Since this is banned people do this underground make it so easy for polygamy to spiral out of control; be taken by religious heretic like cults and fanatics and turn into something sick and disgusting.

[123VivaDjazair]

This is a classic American Show who uses a criminal gang activity and try to demonize religious minorities, what was described in this video has little to do with polygamous marriages, instead it resembles more the working of a brothel.

Moses and Abraham had multiple wives but that didn't mean they were running a brothel, I think objectivity in reporting about important issues in society is missing and has been replaced with sensationalism.

[guayacan07]

WHat would they say if a woman wants to have multiple husbands at one of these ranches?

[rebeccakimbel]

Thank You for educating the public on the inside teachings of blood atonement, a basic doctrine in ALL fundamentalist polygamists. I am 5th generation polygamist, I have relatives in all of the polygamist cults. Women are a commodity that is controlled and coerced through fear of loss of salvation. Polygamy is NOT an adult choice. It is abusive because it is polygamy. Few men would happily share the only mate they can ever have. It is debase. I know, that's where I came from.

[NOSERPICOINUTAH]

@MrBloograss ...SATAN IS THE COUNTERFEITER OF THE TRUE GOD AND HAS A COUNTERFEIT RELIGION TO THE TRUE BRIDE

[NOSERPICOINUTAH]

IS IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN IN DROUGHT SINCE TRANSFERRING WARREN JEFFS TO TEXAS PRISON????HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, UNMARRIED 14 YEAR OLDS? WHAT HAVE ANY OF US DONE ABOUT THE BABIES UNDER 14 WHO ARE BEING USED FOR PROSTITUTION AND PORN? UTAH CODE STATES MARRIAGE..14 WITH CONSENT OF PARENT...WE ARE ALL CALLED OUT OF BABYLON...WHO HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD?

[MonkeyKingDisciple]

Just because some poly-folk are not right in the head/heart does not mean all are wrong. What you see online and on tv is the exception, not the rule.

[hand2fin]

Mormons are awsome. Section 132.

[furrybunnies1]

but these are the people who are the freaks, not the normal individuals who practice polygyny and have happy homes and families.

[alahuakbhar]

SCARYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[SafeLove14]

Dear fellow LDS members,

This life is truly a TEST...to see how we'll treat each other. Is what you want for yourSELF, the same thing you'd want for (or inflict on) your Savior?  I repeat: This life is a TEST. The inconsistancies and hypocrysies, I believe, are there as a part of your "test". Be careful how you choose, and what you believe. LOVE = Equality. Polygamy is NOT LOVE....

Signed, Broken-hearted-mormon-girl

[tbone2872]

@SafeLove14 Fuck you you mormon scumbag. Eat shit and die. You and your cultist brethren deserve to die for your perverse and degenerate lifestyles. Fuck the mormon church and fuck you. I can't wait for your death because I will take a shit on your grave.

[TheHmmhmm]

@SafeLove14 This life is not a test or a dress-rehearsal. This life is most likely all we've got, so you shouldn't waste it or reduce it by thinking of it as a test. It always amazes me when people don't think life as it is is enough for them. Despite a whole lot of shit going on in the world, life is a precious, amazing and wonderful thing... Enjoy it while it lasts; if you're lucky you might have a century of existance.

[SafeLove14]

Dear Pro-polygamists,

Just because something has been done since the beginning of time, doesn't make it natural, right, or healthy. For example: The enslavement of blacks was abolished for a reason. EVOLVE with the rest of us higher human beings.

Signed, Broken-hearted-mormon-girl

[SafeLove14]

Dear Cavemen and Dogs,

Start thinking with your heart, and the head on your shoulders; not the one between your legs. GROW UP. Better yet...let's ship you all off to some deserted island where you can violate each other to death.

Signed, Broken-hearted-mormon-girl

[SafeLove14]

Dear God,

If you want all your earthly children to come unto you and be saved, why would you stain yourself and your church with something as repulsive as polygamy; something that scares everyone (mostly women) AWAY?!

Signed, Broken-hearted-mormon-girl

[SafeLove14]

Dear God,

I thought you said EVERY soul was as precious in your sight as the NEXT! How am I supposed to believe that when you imply the opposite through something as inhumane and barbaric as polygamy?

Signed, Broken-hearted-mormon-girl

[ThePrinceAdeshoga]

The Mormon Church is a cult, polygamy is not. Polygamy is the original structure of family before European world domination. The arrogant ignorance of uneducated Americans usually get this twisted.

[yanuaia1]

wow what a story this is so touching

[IExposeMormonism]

Type in ":Mormon Polygamy Revelation". and see what MORMON Polygamy means. You never heard of anything like it. It is violent and threatening death

[alahuakbhar]

I am prophet what a stupid thing

[drinkswithnedkelly]

Thank the violent racist and sexual predator Brigham Young for the doctrine of Blood Atonement. Thank Joseph Smith for the horrors of Polygamy. The Mormon church has caused so much pain and sorrow.

[flanker2020]

@memtroita9139 funny you should say that because the vast majority of polygamy is practiced where? where? oh yea that's right: AFRICA, ASIA, MIDDLE EAST, so, you're a dumbass leftist bucket of vomit on the first count.

secondly, i find it hilarious that you criticize "eurocentrism" since on your page you have videos of hispanics practicing their own culture in solidarity, so you're a damnable puke progressive hypocrite on the second count.

p.s., Heil Hitler (but not really. i just hateU)

[cesaryusuf]

SCARY...

[pawsupgagaloo]

men just join the polygamist sects only join because otherwise they wouldn't be getting any

[EllysaE]

Why isn't 1 person good enough for someone else. I mean, you're only you, 1 person yourself, why do you need, no, why do you deserve more than one person in any circumstance.

[flanker2020]

@EllysaE by what standard is anybody deserving of anything? the only relevant question is what makes a person happy, 'cause if he (or she etc.) isn't happy then he'll either pursue what does make him happy or else take it out on others.

i personally express interest in polygyny for both the take AND the give. a full family life is rewarding because there's a greater feeling of being needed & desired. some women like it 'cause of the greater support and companionship.

[fourtywpm]

Is polygamy the problem here or is it religion and the fear it instills in people? Polygamy is natural, religion is man made. I think it's disgusting to make kids do these things and lie to women like this, but hey if that's what a god wants then you better do it or go to hell right?

[akissy]

@fourtywpm how is polygamy natural?! Maybe with irrational animals, but with human beings it is not! we are naturally selfish and egotistical, polygamy is totally unnatural. And your comment about if that's what a god wants you to do then do it or go to hell is really stupid.It¿s wrong, no matter if a "god" asked you to do it, if you don't feel right and it goes against your values, then you shouldn't do it.

[fourtywpm]

@akissy ha ha Sorry that last bit was meant to be sarcastic, but yeah I agree completely about not doing something that goes against your values. If polygamy wasn't natural you and I wouldn't be here discussing this ; )

[akissy]

@fourtywpm Sweetie, polygamy isn't natural. Human beings are selfish by nature. Any polygamist man wouldn't want someone else to share one of his wives, and the poor sister wives have to deal with strong feelings of jealousy. We are selfish creatures who mark territories.

[fourtywpm]

@akissy Yes human beings are selfish by nature I agree. Just like in the animal kingdom though, we're protective of the females for mating purposes.The lion fights for and protects the females, once he's mated with them eventually there's always another one he mates with. It's a continuing cycle. It's why so many marriages fail, due to males cheating. Its in our nature(biologically) to pass down our genes with as many females as possible.Its anything but romantic, its reality.

[akissy]

@fourtywpm Actually there's no need to "protect females" as you call it. There's far more females than males in this poor, overpopulated Earth. We are a far cry from the animals we once were. we created a society with rules, and that's not romantic, that's reality. We don't go by instincts anymore. Men cheat for lust, not for passing down the genes. And lust isn't a natural instinct. Dolphins and us are the only animals who have sex for pleasure. That's why men cheat.

[fourtywpm]

@akissy Not true, i've learned far more about humans by studying animals than I have from humans. If you watch animal docs and just look at animals you'll see why we do the things we do. Instincts are a HUGE part of us still, to deny that and say because we created a society with rules we're no longer animalistic is pure romanticism. Let's not forget that there are plenty of animals who have a society of their own, like chimps for one, hyenas and dolphins etc...

[akissy]

@fourtywpm I don't see how you have learned more about humans by looking at animals. we think before we act, and in truth, it is in rare occasions that we do something out of instinct. People think that stuff like passionate crimes are very common because of tabloids, but even murder is thought out and rationalized. Robbery and rape are so too. They cannot be called instincts anymore if they are thought out.

[fourtywpm]

@akissy How have I learned from animals? Here the exact same things we do as animals do to name a few: 1. Males fighting over females. 2. Males flaunting masculinity 3. Using scent to attract mates 4. Sex for pleasure, including homosexual, like dolphins and bonobos. 5. Learning to communicate, and the list goes on and on....

[fourtywpm]

@akissy Also, rape is done by dolphins, ducks, geese too not just humans. Instincts are used ALL the time they help us to avoid danger. A mother or father instinctively protecting their children, you'll find that everywhere in nature. Maternal instincts in women. Instinct to form community / society. Animals were around long before we were. I will say that humans are the only creatures that Ive ever heard of that kill out of necessity.

[fourtywpm]

@akissy Oh and stealing, animals don't just steal food whenever, they know the best times to do so, it could mean their life if they didn't put thought into it just like us!

[fourtywpm]

@akissy Ooops! I meant to say that we humans kill for more reasons than just necessity and that animals kill out of necessity.

[davegooley]

@akissy in response to your comment of 11 months ago, polygamy according to Scripture is called marriage and is just as natural as monogamy. Being married is simply a man being one flesh with a woman. The role of the husband is to love, cherish, honor, provide for and protect the wife. The role of the wife is to submit to the husband's authority and only to him in the bed. According to the Scriptures, a woman who is one flesh with someone other than her husband is committing adultery.

[PhxPride1]

@KeysleSorm yep. that sums it up. America in 2010: Don't like a group? Find someone in their group you don't like and associate all members with the said person.

It's really too bad that Mormon activists spoke up on prop 8 in California. The liberals won't stop until they have crucified the Mormon way of life.

[zellfyre]

god intended for women to be obedient to men so polygamy should be legal so that men can control them.

[TTFLS]

@zellfyre hahahahahaha crazy person alarm

[karlsmith00]

@zellfyre there is no god. men invented god so they can control women and get what they want since they're greedy pigs.

[x62617]

there is no god.

[salinesol]

the mormons said publicly they dont practice polygamy but they still teach the doctrine and believe that it is ESSENTIAL for celestial glory. These groups were ALL started because of Joseph Smith. By their fruits shall ye know them.

[zakattack97]

@salinesol not true. the prophets have said that the practice is unacceptable. everyone who is found practicing it is excommunicated from the church. we don't preach it, but it is still in the scriptures, because once it's in there it's there for good.

[KaweKolorful]

@salinesol I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the mainstream Mormon church) and I know that we do not believe that Polygamy is essential for the highest glory of heaven. We believe that it is essential for a man and a woman to be married to attain Celestial glory, but not a polygamous marriage.

[NOSERPICOINUTAH]

@salinesol ....HOW MANY SERVANTS OF CREATOR GOD HAD MULTIPLE WIVES ...STARTING WITH ABRAHAM.........I DON'T KNOW THESE WOMEN SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LIE FOR PUBLICITY.....GOD DOES!

[Xt0tallyXr0cknX]

@salinesol Fundamentalist Mormons practice polygamy. Not all Mormons do.

[IExposeMormonism]

@Xt0tallyXr0cknX But LDS is in apostasy to it's own doctrine. FLDS is pure authentic Mormonism. In all it's perversion

[Xt0tallyXr0cknX]

@IExposeMormonism "Perversion" is an opinion of yours and I don't care to hear it.

[IExposeMormonism]

@Xt0tallyXr0cknX Got bad news for you, Jacko, I have every right to defend True Christianity. And to defend myself against an obscene "revelation" claiming to "Nullify all non Mormon marriages and contracts", define innocent blood, and threatening death to non compliant wives. Mormonism is Anti Christ. I posted "Blood Atonement and the Origin of Polygamy", 1905, By the Living dead Mormon profit, Joseph F Smith.

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

Haha! You speak as if you have ANY KNoladge on Mormonism. Obviously youdont tho ;)

[IExposeMormonism]

@IGMF1993 I have an extensive collection of books by Mormon and those that fled Mormonism in 19th C America. Over 350 originals. Ask me a question, I'll tell you no lies. Perhaps we should start with the Mountain Meadows Massacre, the Fruit of Mormonism. Or pick something from the D&C. or BofC. or he Absurd BofAbraham. I've posted the polygamy revelation in its entirety and it's not a pretty document. It's violent and manipulative and a lie. Sword of an "Angel" or not.

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

You want to hear the truth... you want to hear what I PERSONALY Believe

Find the Lectures on Faith READ it and then come and have an intelectual conversation on mormonism and/or Fundamentalist Mormonism.

[IExposeMormonism]

@IGMF1993 Mormon faith is based on an impossible BofM. A provably false and absurd Book of Abraham. Mormonism is false doctrine. Cumorah, coins, millions of dead warriors with breast plates, all this is evidence. Dig up Cumorah in good faith. You would do better to place your faith in the 2000 year old Jesus than the lie Joe told. Jesus is not a polygamist nor is his father nor are they polytheists. Adam=God doctrine, all of it is bad faith. Reality. Genesis say you can't become a god

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

Excuse me sir... but have you read the book i instructed you to read? no? alright then you are not properly informed to debate with me. i am not one to force my beliefs upon somone else. But honestly you are going to try and convince me different of something i have believed my whole life? you will not so i will do what you..... Adam is God. Mormonism Is true. JOSEPH SMITH (NOT JOE) Was NOT a liar.

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

It does NO good to simply state that you believe joseph smith is a liar because i can simply state i believe he was NOT a liar. Arguing over religion is point less..... What i do not understand is how people like you can go so far out of their way to try and PROVE something we WANT and DO believe in, False. Because we will ALWAYS believe it true.

[IExposeMormonism]

@IGMF1993 I KNOW he's a liar. the Stupid, absurd and easily provably false Book of Abraham is an excellent example. He put his own hand to it and Every Glyph is error. 100% error. Provable. Then we ask ourselves, well,then could he translate "Reformed" Egyptian. which no one has seen, and we say, no. Joe got the BofA date wrong by 1500+ yrs. This is evidence. Nor did an angel threaten Joe with a sword if he didn't start practicing polygamy. He already had Many wives B4 the 'revelation"

[IExposeMormonism]

@IGMF1993 Well, you're a "good Mormon" (bad Christian) in one sense, you adhere to Adam=God and polygamy. Many a MoJoe has choked on Adam=God. I posted at least 6 videos on A=G and most Morgbots repudiate it. You should become FLDS because they are the Mormons adhering to All of Joe's original doctrine. Like Blood Atonement. To help you I also posted "Blood Atonement and the Origin of Polygamy" 1905, Joseph F Smith. Put on your slickers, it's a bloody mess. And blasphemy.

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

Haha i am an offspring of FLDS. Once again you are proving your statements off what the average CHristian would consider "logical". But god is good and god can do anything and everything. giving the abilities to joseph smith that he DID recieve could have been easy work for God(Adam). But you are IGNORING my question.... have you read the book "The Lectures on Faith" UNtill you have i will ignor anything and everything you have to discuss....

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

Let me know when you have read it (in an inbox message, because thats easier than comming back here.) and then i will continue this debate.

[IExposeMormonism]

@IGMF1993 I got your message but I'm not going to discuss faith. I'd only have to over come Christian Vs Mormon faith. I'll discuss Reality because that's easier to grasp. God is good and he doesn't contradict himself. Thus he can't be both a monotheistic and polytheistic God. Nor is He a god amongst gods. Nor is Jesus a polygamist nor a polytheistic wanna be. AMF and CIAO.

[IGMF1993]

@IExposeMormonism

Again you are simply stating things. i can do it to. God is good and doesn't Contradict himself. i dont argue with that statement go read the book i have instructed you too and you will be at peace of mind with EVERYTHING i am discussing.God IS a Polygamist. Jesus IS a Polygamist. Nothing you say or show me can shake that belief because i have scripture that does nothing but prove me right.and untill you decide to read that you have not enough knoladge to argue with me.

[Xt0tallyXr0cknX]

@IExposeMormonism And you know what "true Christianity" is how?

[IExposeMormonism]

@Xt0tallyXr0cknX Shall I toss that back at you?

[Xt0tallyXr0cknX]

@IExposeMormonism By asking what?

[hazelha251264]

The mainstream LDS church does not practise polygamy. Some small breakaway sects that call themselves "Mormon" do, but they are not recognised by the church & unfortunately, due to the amount of sensational publicity they receive, they get all Mormons a bad name which is totally undeserved & inaccurate.

[kramd1]

@hazelha251264 mormons ie: The LDS perform polygamist marriages in LDS temples today for eternal marriages. Smith the founder introduced this doctrine and it was practiced by Brigham Young and other prophets & members in Utah. It is still apart of doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . They believe a man will and can have multiple wives in their celestial sphere in the hereafter. men only can be sealed to many wives in LDS temples. Woman cannot.

[SimplyNicStacxxx]

utah is fucked ..... honestly man not even to offend anyone

[DadsBlueAngel]

Women who want their children to go to primary and other Church programs for the youth should be allowed to send them unconditionally. These extreme beliefs and oppression would be less common and reports of child abuse would go up as the women grew in their trust of the social work system. Sensationalism will never get us there

and resources may be used to harm rather than help

women and children--whatever their circumstances. I imagine American purps saying "At least I"m not like them."

[amberdawnlee1]

Arvin Shreeve died this year.

[hotdamn14]

thanks so much for shaing your story with the world. You are a couragous lady, wish there were more like you.

[hklowrey]

We Love you Amber xxxx

[fincenMIB]

The truth is all over the rural West, there are invisible children raised in the "work" or "principle". Dozens of rural Utah communities have pockets of extremist. What occured to Elizabeth Smart happened to Kaziah May Hancock years before!

Why are we not investigating the INDEPENDENT Fundamentalist that I know as a 100% fact are out there???

Juab County, the City of Eureka and beyond, children who are home schooled? Varried aged children, who are female, lots of todlers???

[ReligionIsSophistry]

If it were the order of heaven to have 14 wives, then there would be 14 females born for every 1 male born, but it doesn't happen. The ratio is 1:1 no matter how much bullshit these morons spout, there will never be 14 or 38 times more females born than males.

[kraftymomma1979]

Poor Amber Dawn Lee! May she find peace and blessings in her current life.

[latulata]

To tell you the truth an nothing but the truth we do not practice that. There is another religulous called FLDS which they pactice having more then one wife.

And there is another one that i attented and is called LDS which as you might know as the Mormons. But we don't do that please note that. The chuch that i attened is The Church Of Jesus Chirst Of Latter-day Sanits. Is not the

[omiolo]

Any Mormons who practice polygamy are EXCOMMUNICATED, just like this video says!.

Therefore no Mormons are polygamous!

[vcomp1960]

FLDS are mormons. They follow the Book of Mormon, they believe Joseph Smith was a prophet, and they follow the D&C more than the LDS.

[settypatch]

"Therefore no Mormons are polgyamous" ..... Well you mean besides Joe Smith the Mormon founder! .... & his cohorts ..... like Brigham Young, John Taylor, Lorenzo Snow, Willford Woodruff,etc. you know, ALL LDS leadership for 60 years! The leadership LDS Inc. claims their exclusive divine authority through! Oh & since Modern Mormons still believe in eternal Marriage. LDS apostles Oak & Nelson are actually currently sealed to more than one women!

[settypatch]

Sealed means Eternally Married in MORmONISM. Making Oaks & Nelson current polygamists, by their own MORmON marriage conventions, the fact that one wife is deceased is a trivial detail by Mormons own standards. Mormons believe these men will have both wives in heaven, right along with POLYGAMOUS MORmON God. who Mormons believe has many wives. So Mormons leaders are POLYGAMOUS to this very day, & MORmONS are STILL practicing a form of POLYGAMY, endorsing & promoting the practice.