@MessageInBlood1 no you are SOOO Wrong! they needed more time but they needed to release it because the PS3 was not getting enough sales. You can search youtube and you will hear Kojima say it is not the consiles fault! YOUR a 360 FANBOY!!!!!!!!
@luismatheusv No, the 2005 version was superior to the the 2007 version in terms of graphics. While the Matrix filter wasn't that great, the character models were far more detailed than in 2007. They did downgrade.
i would have liked to have played the early version aswell , you csn bring your weapon from side view in first person to centre screen . plus the AI looks far more complex in early version so it would be a lot harder to penetrate them .
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The actual didn't have this level of detail because sony hyped up the initial specs of the ps3 and later toned it down severely. PS3 is a joke graphically coompared to the 360. Don't ever believe anything sony spews out of its mouth or, should I say ass whenever they launch a new console.
Have you looked at Killzone 2? Cause you will cry if you do........
Nothing on Shitbox have beaten Killzone 2 so far, in terms of graphics....Don't be another fanboy denying that...the whole world have praised Killzone 2's Crysis like graphics.....
oh and if you have ever played mgs 3 then u see that 4 got the same engine so if u try to upgrade old grafix engine from old system its not so good idea so .. next time they should make a new engine for the game
the 2005 version looks FAR better than the final game. the reason being is that when they were making the game, they weren't working with the ACTUAL ps3 specs, they were working on the ps3 dev kits, which had more ram and higher specs than the actual ps3 had. they did not know this at the time, so yes, in a sense, the game was downgraded. even kojima himself said that he wasn't happy with mgs4's graphics. and he said that he used pretty much all of the ps3's power. ps3 isn't as THAT powerful.
I smell a Fanboy. If the Ps3 isn't THAT powerful, then the 360 must be far less....cause I've never seen anything on the 360 that is even on par with Killzone 2
heh i know what u mean chingvang559. and one thing if 360 ppl dont respect what hideo dooes then where they need this . and all artists are like hideo they are newer happy with what they do and all the time hideo learns more with his team to make the next mgs game to look better than this .. but fanboys they cant notise this cuz thay dont respect and go get the damn game .. and show hideo that im happy with the product that u gave us..
That has nothing to do with the Xbox 360's power. Killzone 2 looked good because it had cool lighting, cool lens flare and sun ray effects, and great high-definition textures. Everything I just mentioned except for the HD textures would be totally possible on the Xbox 360. The only reason HD textures would be an issue on the 360, is because the 360 uses standard DVD format, wheras the PS3 uses Bluray. There isn't much difference between the two in terms of power. I am a PC gamer myself.
Space is what I was talking about, the fact that the textures are higher resolution means that they need the larger disk space. Don't get me started on the Wii, that thing is a total piece of shit. I own a PS3, 360, gaming pc, and (unfortunately) a Wii, and I like them in this order: PC, 360, PS3,....... and...... I'm not even gonna put the Wii on there. Metal Gear Solid 4 is my favorite game of all time. I will give the PS3 that, but I just don't like many of it's other exclusives.
I own none of the next gen system, i only have a ps2. Talk about exclusives, the 360 seems more barren. I mean the best games for it is only, Gears, Halo
I really wish that they had kept going with the 2005 version. It looked so much better than what we actually got. It looked so immersive, where as the full game is not so much.
The only thing missing in 2007 are the flying papers and that fogg...i dnt think there would be a problem adding those...but it was cheating showing us CGI ....
"i got the game the first day it came out.best game ever.and the best graphics i have seen so far" _i've said these very same words on 4 seperate occassions about every Metal Gear solid game. Best Video-game Series ever, hands down.
yea i agree with both sides... who cares if a kid plays a rated "M" game? but on the other hand for this typpe of game and story line, you need to be a bit more experienced and mature to understand the game.
well the kid just wont understand soooo still who cares?...when i 1st played mgs1 i was like 8...didnt get shit all i could hear was blah blah blah gray fox...blah blah blah metal gear blah blah rail gun...then i replayed it 2 years l8r...awesome
No jaydendrums, the graphics are actually slightly better in the 2007/2008 version. This video compares zoomed out gameplay sequences with cut scenes. If you own a ps3 , you know that this comparison is misleading because when you're actually playing the game , all cut scenes not only look better , but they are seemlessly incorporated with the gameplay. This video is misleading
Google the following phrase: "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots PlayStation 3 Trailer - 2006 vs. 2008 Comparison" to give you a better idea of how the final compares with the exact same sequences , IGN has an HD quality vid. (and again , when you play mgs4 all cut scenes are in real time and seemlessly incorporated with gameplay)
actually forget that , simply type this "Metal Gear Solid 4 '2006 vs 2008 Comparison' HD QUALITY" in youtube's search box , it's a 10 minute & 59 seconds long video. That's a real comparison.
yea i agree graphics aren't as good as back in 2005 but in 2007/2008 as of what i seen they haven't been downgraded alot and everything is in real time(like wen ur playin the game and it switches to a cutscene)and wen i watched mgs4(the 15 min. long demo on a hd tv sure does look pretty damn good)i mean its better to downgrade graphics and improve gameplay..not the other way around.overall graphics are good and im impressed wit the game.and yea mgs4 uses a whole 50GB ps3 blu-ray disc
wrong , gpc0708 , in reality the video is misleading. The 2007/2008 version is better than 2005's version as far as the graphics are concerned. But in this video , the comparison gives you the impression that it isn't the case because the gameplay sequences don't have a close-up cam angle. If you acutally own the game , the cut scenes and gameplay transitions are seemless because all is in real time + the 2007/08 cut scenes are better. More detailed.
They were not downgraded, Kojima said that he had wanted to go another ten steps beyond what they first showed but was only able to go one or two steps futher, the game looks slightly better now than it did then.
OH JEESE A LAKE OF DIFFERENCE, I wonder why?!?! WELL FUCKING DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hideo Kojima and his team in the 2005 version only developed part of Middle East section. In 2007 they were almost done with the whole thing. They ended up filling up the 50gb of space on a Dual-layered Bluray disk!!! They had much more stuff. They had to add in more room unfortunately forcing them downgrade the graphics. God people - common sense....
It's ok. The real ones that are ignorant are those moronic xbox fanboys who keep saying that MGS 4 is going to come to xbox 360 when its fucking impossible and Hideo Kojima, Ryan Payton, and Konami have all said NO. Good question about the 2 disks....I think that would go down to the production budget haha. Konami and Kojima Productions spent a lot ($50 million). Yea so I'm sure he would have brought in 2 disks to make the perfect MGS experience but....money kinda controls stuff unfortunately.
Good for you mate!! I'm 16 years old and yea I'm planning to get the ps3 mgs4 bundle. It's going to rock. To be honest though when I played the demo of Metal Gear Solid on PSX, I was scared. It was just such a diff. concept compared to my other games. I had no weapons and it was like "GAH!!! What do I do" - I just turned off the console when I got caught. But as I started maturing oh boy did I show those guards.
i'm 12 so whatever. anyways i've played every metal gear solid and halo game oh and i have all the splinter cells and far cry so i am mature so just leave me alone
The begining of the 2005 video, where it is from the FPS view, is clearly better than 2007, but after this sequence in the 2005 video the scene of Snake in the room is almost better in the 2007 with certain added details. Watch video from 1:20 to know where I talk about.
in 2005 theres lots of motion blur and its 10x more detailed..kojima said there are 70,000 hair strands or polygons in snakes stash in the 2005 trailer, there's far more detail in the LCD screen on the MK II robot...so i dont know wahat the heck your talking about
kojima should also add colour to the enviroment and increase the level of detail i mean come on 70,000 polygons used for snakes mushi and he said its real time and i know thats difficult to pull off for game play but COME ON guys the PS3 has a 50GB Blue ray disc and an 8 cored cell proceccor
what kojima could of done is to make the gameplay match the rendered 2005 trailer and then make rendered cutscenes instead of real time cutscenes because if the gameplay macthes the 05 trailer imagine how rendered cutscenes would look(FLIPPIN UBER REALISTIC), he should then throw in hundereds of blended annimations for snake and increase the AI's inteligence and make them act and walk more realistic just like they do in the rendered 05 trailer if you know what i mean
if the 2005 trailer is pre rendered and the 2007 demonstration is real time, then seriously kojima isnt trying hard enough because if killzone 2's real time FPS gameplay mathes the pre rendered mgs4 FPS view then theres not much effort gone in to the game seriously
you are seriuosly blind, i mean look at finale fantasy 13. that takes up more space on a 50 GB disc and the game looks centillion times better than mgs4..... and its longer
the story to the MGS series is amazing but the graphics of MGS4 are dissapointing compared to wht i've seen...KillZone 2, FF13+vursus13, War Devil, Eight Days, THE GETAWAY 3, Risisstance 2, Heavy Rain, TEKKEN 6,.....if you look up all these games you would see the developers making use of the ps3's power.
Were talking about MGS4 and graphics...and you are the one idiot to stand out and make a senseless statement, plus KillZone2 looks FUCKING amazing, so I dont know how you can say that....God crackheads these days....
Also the final product for MGS4 hadnt been completed up until RECENTLY, and still I read about how they are finalizing the game at this very hour, so the final product is going to look incredible, I mean how can you doubt the prowess of this game? The graphics for every MGS installment has always been top notch so how would this one be any less hmm??
Not exactly bra, Kojima is known to use the Metal Gear Solid series to push the limits of whichever system it is coming out on, compare MGS2 to MGS3 both games are on the PS2 and when MGS2 came out it was hailed for how realistic looking it was, when MGS3 came out it looked EVEN BETTER then MGS2...so about how MGS4 doesnt look good interms of graphics...I think you are wrong..actually I know you are wrong.
fking retards, KILLZONE 2 IS FAKE, ITS A PRE RENDERED CGI and SO DOES THIS 2005 TRAILER! ITS TRAILER!!!! NOT GAMEPLAY!!! JESUS IT SHOWS THE REDERING CGI CAPABILITIES OF PS3 NOT PROCESSING POWER!!! jesus what bunch of fuktards!
the trailer shown at E3 2005 was a target render do yu get it !!TARGET RENDER!! DUMB ASS.., the developers said it them selves its ment to show what the PS3 is capable of when it cums to gameplay....the one shown at E3 2007 was actuale gameplay and people who attended got to play it aswell. if YOU truely think the 2007 trailer was CGI then that shows the ps3 is truely the future console,.....NOT ONE! game on shit60 for 3 years has'nt even matched uncharted. and that aint evevn the best
japanstudios(and hideo) decided to make thie game only gameplay graphics for both cutscenes and play..they saind it should be like the rest of mgs with no cinamatic..because graphics was already good
the two main differences in true quaility is color spectrum (even I will admit that the color spectrum is not great, but that could've been because of the demoing unit) and the dust in the air. The game play still has dust in the air at certain parts, I'd say they left it out the make it easier to see. The fluidity of movement is just a difference between cinematics and gameplay that will never change.
not to mention, that is a target render, and that video gameplay footage was released 1 full year before the game is schedualed to come out. Compare the demonstration footage with footage from a year before that (big difference) KP is going to make this game really beautiful.
it's not really fair to compare the ingame with what is meant to be cutscene quality stuff. You might argue that there was a cutscene in the Hideo K presentation, but that was a last minute made cutscene, I've seen what actually goes in that spot and it's pretty darn close to that quality.
I´ve seen screen caps and there´s real difference in rendering. And here I can see when comparing cutscenes, the movements were better then. But what does not help in anyways is comparing cinematics with gameplay.
A weapon off to the side shows more of the weapon and fire, but there are some programmatic projectile alignment challenges to overcome with a non-centered weapon. So my guess is they might have had to re-write alot of camera code. The 2005 version does look like a pre-rendered video demo really. Most machines struggle with realtime graphics processing.
all the Trailers from 2005 is Prerendered lol .. but its the Same Graphic engine as the 2007 but the only thing thay did in the 2005 witch improved it VS the 2007 is the Glowing effects they put in.. and the Movement
In graphics programming myself I've come to question things such as camera and weapon placement and views. One thing is in reality when you aim a weapon the weapon will be centered and aligned to your eyesight when targetting. The downside is you see less of the weapon and center area view in FPS. A variation is when using 3rd person view.
The 2005 looks alot more realistic, and slowed down, but I can see with all the smoke it'd be hard to see while playing which might annoy some people. The FPS gun looks totally different and is more realistic. The 2007 is cleaner and less smoke. The FPS gun is centered and in way of center bottom portion of screen making it harder to see a bit bottom area, but the change in gun could be due to a re-write in game code that handles the gun.
1:52 snake rage!
i liked the 2005 better
kingbradley6000 1 month ago
very good vid
justletuslive 4 months ago
David Hayter is such a better Snake than the original.
paranoidude 5 months ago
i couldnt stop looking at the first person.
Flashbak12 6 months ago
like if this is the best 59.99 you ever spent on a ps3 game.
solidboss0824 8 months ago
The version I have now and that I am playing now ( 2008 release ) is and will always be the best one and the only one.
Glad I sold my 360...that piece of noisy over-heating crap.
tsonukarabocado 9 months ago
clearly 2007 one better i mean on the seen where mk moves closer to snake the crossed bar window thing looks much better than it does on 2005...
wankxdd 9 months ago
the 2005 version is better...konami degraded it down to the 2007 version u see now because ps3 can't handle it. that's what i heard.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 no you are SOOO Wrong! they needed more time but they needed to release it because the PS3 was not getting enough sales. You can search youtube and you will hear Kojima say it is not the consiles fault! YOUR a 360 FANBOY!!!!!!!!
burnout623 1 year ago
@burnout623 i dont even have a 360 lolz
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 No, the 2005 version was horrible because of the contrast and character models, It had no MGS atmosphere. They did not downgrade.
luismatheusv 1 year ago
@luismatheusv No, the 2005 version was superior to the the 2007 version in terms of graphics. While the Matrix filter wasn't that great, the character models were far more detailed than in 2007. They did downgrade.
Zero2562130 2 months ago
the 2005 version seems better, the graphics and gameplay of the 2005 version does actually seem more like a war then the 2007 version
syson551 1 year ago
i prefer the old trailer around 1:24...theres a much gritty realistic feel to it..
chin2000000 1 year ago
i would have liked to have played the early version aswell , you csn bring your weapon from side view in first person to centre screen . plus the AI looks far more complex in early version so it would be a lot harder to penetrate them .
DetectiveHoffman123 2 years ago
metal gear 4 kill all game of this generation
fedemupitchar 2 years ago
I'm really disappointed with MGS4. When I bought it, I though I'd be playing for days. First time, I beat it in 9 hrs, 32 min.
Stevenx22x 2 years ago
@Stevenx22x I got the Big Boss emblem in 3hrs & 42 mins
xxJoeDog93xx 1 year ago
otocon looked realer on the right.
Kashground 2 years ago
MGS4. the best game ever made.
ahtonoll 2 years ago 7
MGS4. One of the best games ever made.
jleack 2 years ago 26
@jleack The Best
Deathlygunn 1 year ago
@jleack I don't think it's as good as 3, and maybe 1. I think it's too action oriented.
LOTO202 9 months ago
@LOTO202 SHUT UP AND ENJOY SMOSH woops wrong video
apsfc 1 month ago
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The actual didn't have this level of detail because sony hyped up the initial specs of the ps3 and later toned it down severely. PS3 is a joke graphically coompared to the 360. Don't ever believe anything sony spews out of its mouth or, should I say ass whenever they launch a new console.
TheBf666 2 years ago
Have you looked at Killzone 2? Cause you will cry if you do........
Nothing on Shitbox have beaten Killzone 2 so far, in terms of graphics....Don't be another fanboy denying that...the whole world have praised Killzone 2's Crysis like graphics.....
chingvang559 2 years ago
@chingvang559
You butthurt over the 360? I have a 360 and yes, Killzone 2 has great graphics equaling that of Crysis, but Gameplay > Graphics.
EX. What would you choose? A turd in 1080p, or The Original Super Mario in 8-bit?
Killzone 2's controls felt heavy, (You push the joystick to the max and he turns slowly), I didn't like the gameplay at all.
madmatt337 1 year ago
is there any point in comparing cgi and realtime gameplay? and anyways, if the final product was like 2005 teaser who'd want to stick with the mk22?
Lokarbtuna 2 years ago
2007 all the way but I disliked how they just put the XM320 grenade launcher instead of the M203
SniperXM177E2 2 years ago
i think it looked better in 2005
and i think they could have made it look like that if they really wanted to
i really think its a scare on economy that they aren't really encouraging very high budget games to be creative
the camera in mgs4 i think could have been alot better which would have made it a whole differnet experience
there was just too much shooting in that game and not enough real content
people loved it because it was metal gear
but i still think mgs1 is higher quality.
yellowfellow 2 years ago
wtf.
the one in 2005 doesnt have any details on the skin. the one on 2007 does.
PcROX123 2 years ago
are you really that stupid?
having details on the skin has nothing to do with how powerful a game is
all that is, is basicly just texture art,
the 2005 trailer obviously has a much higher polygon count, and the animations of the characters are much smoother
that means the polygons are moving much faster in a more precise motion, and that takes more processing power
yellowfellow 2 years ago
the first game is always the higher quality game
but if they made mgs1 remake on ps3 with mgs4 graphics id buy it as i borrowed the ps1 version from my friend
ScrewFearMe 2 years ago
ok so ive had three 360's and they all had red ring 2 months later!
bigsolidboss 2 years ago 4
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PS3 has been dead.
nobody needs PS3.
360 rules the world.
johoryo 2 years ago
FInal version is the best =)
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oh and if you have ever played mgs 3 then u see that 4 got the same engine so if u try to upgrade old grafix engine from old system its not so good idea so .. next time they should make a new engine for the game
ViMa86 2 years ago
snake looks better in 2005 too, fuck i wish it was actually like this
rx7187 2 years ago
the 2005 version looks FAR better than the final game. the reason being is that when they were making the game, they weren't working with the ACTUAL ps3 specs, they were working on the ps3 dev kits, which had more ram and higher specs than the actual ps3 had. they did not know this at the time, so yes, in a sense, the game was downgraded. even kojima himself said that he wasn't happy with mgs4's graphics. and he said that he used pretty much all of the ps3's power. ps3 isn't as THAT powerful.
MiPedoteTUMBA 2 years ago
I smell a Fanboy. If the Ps3 isn't THAT powerful, then the 360 must be far less....cause I've never seen anything on the 360 that is even on par with Killzone 2
chingvang559 2 years ago 3
heh i know what u mean chingvang559. and one thing if 360 ppl dont respect what hideo dooes then where they need this . and all artists are like hideo they are newer happy with what they do and all the time hideo learns more with his team to make the next mgs game to look better than this .. but fanboys they cant notise this cuz thay dont respect and go get the damn game .. and show hideo that im happy with the product that u gave us..
ViMa86 2 years ago 2
That has nothing to do with the Xbox 360's power. Killzone 2 looked good because it had cool lighting, cool lens flare and sun ray effects, and great high-definition textures. Everything I just mentioned except for the HD textures would be totally possible on the Xbox 360. The only reason HD textures would be an issue on the 360, is because the 360 uses standard DVD format, wheras the PS3 uses Bluray. There isn't much difference between the two in terms of power. I am a PC gamer myself.
00joe 2 years ago
Blu-ray may be 1080P, but it has to do more with space, not HD texture.. that is not an excuse for the wii60
chingvang559 2 years ago
Space is what I was talking about, the fact that the textures are higher resolution means that they need the larger disk space. Don't get me started on the Wii, that thing is a total piece of shit. I own a PS3, 360, gaming pc, and (unfortunately) a Wii, and I like them in this order: PC, 360, PS3,....... and...... I'm not even gonna put the Wii on there. Metal Gear Solid 4 is my favorite game of all time. I will give the PS3 that, but I just don't like many of it's other exclusives.
00joe 2 years ago 2
I own none of the next gen system, i only have a ps2. Talk about exclusives, the 360 seems more barren. I mean the best games for it is only, Gears, Halo
chingvang559 2 years ago 3
if you are fps fanatic,choose x360,if you aren't fps fanatic choose ps3.ps3 also has very good fps games,but it has also very good other titles.
petris101 2 years ago
troll warning
ViMa86 2 years ago
0:50......wow 0.0
isk8boards 3 years ago
Yes, he is injecting his penis into the unexpecting soldiers spine. Move along please.
kiefer23 2 years ago 11
the 2005 version looked like and reminded me of call of duty wow
DFA002 3 years ago 3
I really wish that they had kept going with the 2005 version. It looked so much better than what we actually got. It looked so immersive, where as the full game is not so much.
retardopooplick 3 years ago 5
bretty stupid so you think that they made mgs4 trailer at 2005 butt it was 2007 and the 2007 was 2008 and at 2005 they mad mgs3
jokujokujokujokujoku 3 years ago
I think i like the 2005 better because of the coloring with the slight green tint and the softer edges really aligns itself with classic MGS look
Helpok 3 years ago 5
i like 2005 better , but snake looks ugly (in 2005)
106623 3 years ago 4
The only thing missing in 2007 are the flying papers and that fogg...i dnt think there would be a problem adding those...but it was cheating showing us CGI ....
Sheryakahan 3 years ago 2
Look at the old Killzone 2 trailer that was worse then this.
kiefer23 2 years ago
for once the actual game looks better than the prerendered CGI
Lucario47 3 years ago 2
No MGS4 trailer was ever pre-rendered. This is no exception. The 2005 was likely to have been more similar to the MGS3 engine than the one in 2007.
Ripperhugme 3 years ago
there both good, I wish I could of used that dot sight on the M4 from 2005
rayramis22 3 years ago 3
i think they both look good 2005 and 2007
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It looked way better in 2005
Coopercrack 3 years ago
yea i kno wat ya sayin ultraworshipp..i got the game the first day it came out.best game ever.and the best graphics i have seen so far
gpc0708 3 years ago 2
"i got the game the first day it came out.best game ever.and the best graphics i have seen so far" _i've said these very same words on 4 seperate occassions about every Metal Gear solid game. Best Video-game Series ever, hands down.
Xhell420 3 years ago 2
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really?
fuck jap,,
i was disappointed
kaweiwrrwi 3 years ago
yea i agree with both sides... who cares if a kid plays a rated "M" game? but on the other hand for this typpe of game and story line, you need to be a bit more experienced and mature to understand the game.
Sealvers 3 years ago
well the kid just wont understand soooo still who cares?...when i 1st played mgs1 i was like 8...didnt get shit all i could hear was blah blah blah gray fox...blah blah blah metal gear blah blah rail gun...then i replayed it 2 years l8r...awesome
Whatever22877 3 years ago
so the graphics arnt as good as they were going to be ?
jaydendrums111 3 years ago
No jaydendrums, the graphics are actually slightly better in the 2007/2008 version. This video compares zoomed out gameplay sequences with cut scenes. If you own a ps3 , you know that this comparison is misleading because when you're actually playing the game , all cut scenes not only look better , but they are seemlessly incorporated with the gameplay. This video is misleading
ultraworshipp 3 years ago 4
ohh thanks mate
i havnt got a ps3 yet
jaydendrums111 3 years ago
Google the following phrase: "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots PlayStation 3 Trailer - 2006 vs. 2008 Comparison" to give you a better idea of how the final compares with the exact same sequences , IGN has an HD quality vid. (and again , when you play mgs4 all cut scenes are in real time and seemlessly incorporated with gameplay)
ultraworshipp 3 years ago
actually forget that , simply type this "Metal Gear Solid 4 '2006 vs 2008 Comparison' HD QUALITY" in youtube's search box , it's a 10 minute & 59 seconds long video. That's a real comparison.
ultraworshipp 3 years ago
yea i agree graphics aren't as good as back in 2005 but in 2007/2008 as of what i seen they haven't been downgraded alot and everything is in real time(like wen ur playin the game and it switches to a cutscene)and wen i watched mgs4(the 15 min. long demo on a hd tv sure does look pretty damn good)i mean its better to downgrade graphics and improve gameplay..not the other way around.overall graphics are good and im impressed wit the game.and yea mgs4 uses a whole 50GB ps3 blu-ray disc
gpc0708 3 years ago
wrong , gpc0708 , in reality the video is misleading. The 2007/2008 version is better than 2005's version as far as the graphics are concerned. But in this video , the comparison gives you the impression that it isn't the case because the gameplay sequences don't have a close-up cam angle. If you acutally own the game , the cut scenes and gameplay transitions are seemless because all is in real time + the 2007/08 cut scenes are better. More detailed.
ultraworshipp 3 years ago 2
ajajajaj cuanto retrasado xboxer,os come la envidia ajajaja,vosotros a jugar con la tostadora.
kileeri 3 years ago
Graphics had to be downgraded. Kojima said so himself. SORRY PS3 FANS YOUR INVESTMENT IS STILL OF SOUND CHOICE.
WonderLeone 3 years ago
They were not downgraded, Kojima said that he had wanted to go another ten steps beyond what they first showed but was only able to go one or two steps futher, the game looks slightly better now than it did then.
SmilingKitsune 3 years ago
i'll give you that the enviroments are more detailed, but the lighting and character detail has been downgraded by alot.
WonderLeone 3 years ago
they looks the same graphics wise, the two have different colours.
yourdad132 3 years ago
OH JEESE A LAKE OF DIFFERENCE, I wonder why?!?! WELL FUCKING DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hideo Kojima and his team in the 2005 version only developed part of Middle East section. In 2007 they were almost done with the whole thing. They ended up filling up the 50gb of space on a Dual-layered Bluray disk!!! They had much more stuff. They had to add in more room unfortunately forcing them downgrade the graphics. God people - common sense....
shadowpal2 3 years ago
sorry for being ignorant but couldn't they just make it 2 disk like they did with MGS?
Chronobeanz 3 years ago
It's ok. The real ones that are ignorant are those moronic xbox fanboys who keep saying that MGS 4 is going to come to xbox 360 when its fucking impossible and Hideo Kojima, Ryan Payton, and Konami have all said NO. Good question about the 2 disks....I think that would go down to the production budget haha. Konami and Kojima Productions spent a lot ($50 million). Yea so I'm sure he would have brought in 2 disks to make the perfect MGS experience but....money kinda controls stuff unfortunately.
shadowpal2 3 years ago 5
so your saying if i want this game which i do i love the series i have to get a ps3
colbythebomb 3 years ago
Yea pretty much..
shadowpal2 3 years ago
good thing ive already started saving cause well you might not relize this but im 12 years old but i really enjoy this series
colbythebomb 3 years ago
Good for you mate!! I'm 16 years old and yea I'm planning to get the ps3 mgs4 bundle. It's going to rock. To be honest though when I played the demo of Metal Gear Solid on PSX, I was scared. It was just such a diff. concept compared to my other games. I had no weapons and it was like "GAH!!! What do I do" - I just turned off the console when I got caught. But as I started maturing oh boy did I show those guards.
shadowpal2 3 years ago 2
you should see my friend play whenever they say huh he turns off the game,tv,runs away cause he thinks its real life or something
colbythebomb 3 years ago
lol yea... any 4 year old can play Halo - you actually really have to mature to play MGS
shadowpal2 3 years ago
i'm 12 so whatever. anyways i've played every metal gear solid and halo game oh and i have all the splinter cells and far cry so i am mature so just leave me alone
colbythebomb 3 years ago
just coz u played the games does not meen ur mature
fuehibe 3 years ago
2005 is cutscenees u fucken idiots
DogWeed91 3 years ago
the cutscenes are all in rwal time dude
caeraman88 3 years ago
i think 2005 looks better, but in a film sort of way
xtjax 3 years ago
2007 has more realistic lighting and WAY more detail.
AaronLMM 3 years ago
the 2005 view is showed in full cut scene style
the 2007 is showed as it would actually be played
the21stsergeant 3 years ago
He's smoking in 2005 and MK2 is more clumsy.
Subtalvik2 3 years ago
although the one of 2005 is a cinematic and the one of 2007 is gameplay, 2005 looks better for me
Lucasoss 3 years ago
i agree with that tbh
although we have to accept reality when its released haha
the21stsergeant 3 years ago
The begining of the 2005 video, where it is from the FPS view, is clearly better than 2007, but after this sequence in the 2005 video the scene of Snake in the room is almost better in the 2007 with certain added details. Watch video from 1:20 to know where I talk about.
Dennissays 3 years ago
2005 is definitely better
SanosukeEiji 3 years ago
the AI is better in the 2005 but the graphics are definatly better in 2007. everything seems off in 2005
Stewieglen 4 years ago
except the 2007 isnt as good at close-ups
Stewieglen 4 years ago
in 2005 theres lots of motion blur and its 10x more detailed..kojima said there are 70,000 hair strands or polygons in snakes stash in the 2005 trailer, there's far more detail in the LCD screen on the MK II robot...so i dont know wahat the heck your talking about
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
The graphic is beatiful in the two versions.
Pliskin91 4 years ago
pretty close
EndG4me 4 years ago
that woul explain everything
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
you are right brah...lol
streetmenPEte 4 years ago
mgs4 is gonna have lots of cinamatics actually,..with good gameplay graphics
streetmenPEte 4 years ago
unless all the recent trailers and game play are just pre alpha
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
kojima should also add colour to the enviroment and increase the level of detail i mean come on 70,000 polygons used for snakes mushi and he said its real time and i know thats difficult to pull off for game play but COME ON guys the PS3 has a 50GB Blue ray disc and an 8 cored cell proceccor
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
what kojima could of done is to make the gameplay match the rendered 2005 trailer and then make rendered cutscenes instead of real time cutscenes because if the gameplay macthes the 05 trailer imagine how rendered cutscenes would look(FLIPPIN UBER REALISTIC), he should then throw in hundereds of blended annimations for snake and increase the AI's inteligence and make them act and walk more realistic just like they do in the rendered 05 trailer if you know what i mean
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
if the 2005 trailer is pre rendered and the 2007 demonstration is real time, then seriously kojima isnt trying hard enough because if killzone 2's real time FPS gameplay mathes the pre rendered mgs4 FPS view then theres not much effort gone in to the game seriously
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
dude seriously STFU...this game looks awesome either way and what do you mean not much effort ?? are you kidding me look at that shit!
italianboi1390 4 years ago
you are seriuosly blind, i mean look at finale fantasy 13. that takes up more space on a 50 GB disc and the game looks centillion times better than mgs4..... and its longer
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
dude you can't say that without any gameplay vids out yet, The trailer was definitely CGI
*SPAMMED*!
SanosukeEiji 3 years ago
the story to the MGS series is amazing but the graphics of MGS4 are dissapointing compared to wht i've seen...KillZone 2, FF13+vursus13, War Devil, Eight Days, THE GETAWAY 3, Risisstance 2, Heavy Rain, TEKKEN 6,.....if you look up all these games you would see the developers making use of the ps3's power.
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
killzone sucks
HmonGLaoster1904 4 years ago
Were talking about MGS4 and graphics...and you are the one idiot to stand out and make a senseless statement, plus KillZone2 looks FUCKING amazing, so I dont know how you can say that....God crackheads these days....
CI2uSaDeR 4 years ago
Also the final product for MGS4 hadnt been completed up until RECENTLY, and still I read about how they are finalizing the game at this very hour, so the final product is going to look incredible, I mean how can you doubt the prowess of this game? The graphics for every MGS installment has always been top notch so how would this one be any less hmm??
CI2uSaDeR 4 years ago
LOL,...weres the humor ,..i love killzone brah
HmonGLaoster1904 4 years ago
(to HmonGLauster1904) hard to tell humor through text without any kind of signal that your statement is meant to be humorus.
USDrolla21 4 years ago
yo reapeat that idont understand is that humor,shit,pussy talk,,,or what,..like you said hard to understand text,..
HmonGLaoster1904 3 years ago
Not exactly bra, Kojima is known to use the Metal Gear Solid series to push the limits of whichever system it is coming out on, compare MGS2 to MGS3 both games are on the PS2 and when MGS2 came out it was hailed for how realistic looking it was, when MGS3 came out it looked EVEN BETTER then MGS2...so about how MGS4 doesnt look good interms of graphics...I think you are wrong..actually I know you are wrong.
CI2uSaDeR 4 years ago 3
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fking retards, KILLZONE 2 IS FAKE, ITS A PRE RENDERED CGI and SO DOES THIS 2005 TRAILER! ITS TRAILER!!!! NOT GAMEPLAY!!! JESUS IT SHOWS THE REDERING CGI CAPABILITIES OF PS3 NOT PROCESSING POWER!!! jesus what bunch of fuktards!
MwuLaFllaga 3 years ago
dude theres new gameplay videos now, don't judge or criticize without research *SPAMMED*!
SanosukeEiji 3 years ago
dude killzone 2 is a fake realtime, done believe me? read the news man... its PRE RENDERED CGI! its alll over CNN haha
MwuLaFllaga 4 years ago
Link please...
jobluz06 4 years ago
the trailer shown at E3 2005 was a target render do yu get it !!TARGET RENDER!! DUMB ASS.., the developers said it them selves its ment to show what the PS3 is capable of when it cums to gameplay....the one shown at E3 2007 was actuale gameplay and people who attended got to play it aswell. if YOU truely think the 2007 trailer was CGI then that shows the ps3 is truely the future console,.....NOT ONE! game on shit60 for 3 years has'nt even matched uncharted. and that aint evevn the best
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
CUMS?
TheGreatWalkthroughs 4 years ago
2005 is not a pre-render one.
There were another demo in 2005 for audiences, and that works real time.
waltzone 3 years ago
jnjn
mustafagtgt 4 years ago
japanstudios(and hideo) decided to make thie game only gameplay graphics for both cutscenes and play..they saind it should be like the rest of mgs with no cinamatic..because graphics was already good
streetmenPEte 4 years ago
dont get this mixed up,....rightside was cinamatic,...leftside is called gameplay graphics
streetmenPEte 4 years ago
the two main differences in true quaility is color spectrum (even I will admit that the color spectrum is not great, but that could've been because of the demoing unit) and the dust in the air. The game play still has dust in the air at certain parts, I'd say they left it out the make it easier to see. The fluidity of movement is just a difference between cinematics and gameplay that will never change.
TEHFLYERWOMBAT 4 years ago
not to mention, that is a target render, and that video gameplay footage was released 1 full year before the game is schedualed to come out. Compare the demonstration footage with footage from a year before that (big difference) KP is going to make this game really beautiful.
TEHFLYERWOMBAT 4 years ago
it's not really fair to compare the ingame with what is meant to be cutscene quality stuff. You might argue that there was a cutscene in the Hideo K presentation, but that was a last minute made cutscene, I've seen what actually goes in that spot and it's pretty darn close to that quality.
TEHFLYERWOMBAT 4 years ago
I´ve seen screen caps and there´s real difference in rendering. And here I can see when comparing cutscenes, the movements were better then. But what does not help in anyways is comparing cinematics with gameplay.
CrissSpiegel 4 years ago
cinematics is not Coded movement Game play is :)
Zonde32 4 years ago
A weapon off to the side shows more of the weapon and fire, but there are some programmatic projectile alignment challenges to overcome with a non-centered weapon. So my guess is they might have had to re-write alot of camera code. The 2005 version does look like a pre-rendered video demo really. Most machines struggle with realtime graphics processing.
KnightChatX 4 years ago
all the Trailers from 2005 is Prerendered lol .. but its the Same Graphic engine as the 2007 but the only thing thay did in the 2005 witch improved it VS the 2007 is the Glowing effects they put in.. and the Movement
Zonde32 4 years ago
In graphics programming myself I've come to question things such as camera and weapon placement and views. One thing is in reality when you aim a weapon the weapon will be centered and aligned to your eyesight when targetting. The downside is you see less of the weapon and center area view in FPS. A variation is when using 3rd person view.
KnightChatX 4 years ago
The 2005 looks alot more realistic, and slowed down, but I can see with all the smoke it'd be hard to see while playing which might annoy some people. The FPS gun looks totally different and is more realistic. The 2007 is cleaner and less smoke. The FPS gun is centered and in way of center bottom portion of screen making it harder to see a bit bottom area, but the change in gun could be due to a re-write in game code that handles the gun.
KnightChatX 4 years ago
theres some differences (minor) but the clip from 2005 is a cut sence and the clip from 2077 is real game play :)
UnderstandingAll 4 years ago
I can't belive you're hosting a graphics comparison on one of the worst quality viral video sites on the planet.
monstersparkler 4 years ago
it looks the same to me.
butternut86 4 years ago 2
Sheez, you compare gameplay with a specially made presentation ingame movie.
DoggySpew 4 years ago
hmm i wonder why they downgrade it? But still it looks stupidly amazing and I will get it even if its PS2 graphics
jedimodus 4 years ago
2005 obviously looks better, but it still looks great now.
Xgrayninja 4 years ago