BMW 130i M Sport v Volkswagen Golf R32 Shootout

[sher854]

How often you going to take your car on track, if i had to choose i would choose r32 as its V6 so alot of potential of power and it looks better than bmw, although bmw is better value for money.

[carlmarkwyatt]

Interesting footnote, laptimes; Golf: 1.56.36, 130i: 1.56.46 but the lowly and much ridiculed Ford SportKa (warm hatch at best) will complete the track in 1.57.00. I'd prefer the BMW or VW to the Ford for all but driver enjoyment and the more prestigious marks should be somewhat safer but still a disappointingly slow lap time from both vehicles even when you consider the tightness of the track.

[bauuau18]

Screw that wait for the M1

[Encorslayer]

Look at his Breitling Navitimer :D

[mikodesigner]

R32 is good

[yeppyxdrag]

Yeah... bmw is good, but still the Volkswagen sounds 10 times better ! ;) and that`s the whole point:D

[OFXGaming]

I've driven both cars, and both are great! :D I choose both :p

[05BURNAGE]

Ur clearly inbred lmao i dint ask you to go but a vw and i dint sey all bmw are crap just this one,Pro driver my ass the STIG from top gear drove it...hes a racing car driver they tested it and the golf was faster luk it up !. And as far as ur comment about tiff needell the guys one of the best drivers that britain if not the best has hes ex le man 24 hour etc.. look him up before you reply u retard.face facts ur precious bmw is slower m3 and m5 v10 are real bmws not this ugly peace of shit

[05BURNAGE]

How can you think the bmw is better then the golf.. bothe top gear and fith gear tested them together and the golf was quicker the it sounds way better bmws are wicked but this one isnt ! overpriced n just crap tbh end ov!

[IchHabeWasIhrWollt]

@05BURNAGE

i wouldnt even take a shitty vw for free if i had to drive it .. maybe if i could resell to buy a nice bmw ..

vw is just crap and not fun to drive .. front wheel drive or all wheel drive .. your a women ? bmw is a real car for skilled drivers i think if some pro driver would test them the bmw would be faster .. this guy cant drive it anyway .. i've owned 4 bmw now and i love this brand for a good reason .. because its better then other car brands in its price class ;;;

[jarhead1145]

@IchHabeWasIhrWollt your stupid, no one listen to this idiot who has no idea what hes talking about

[MrLuke6593]

@IchHabeWasIhrWollt you shound like a little kid ? saying shit like " i would't take a shitty vw for free" ok then so you think that the car has a pricetag of about £30,000 for nothing lool and to be fair the only gd thing about the b m is the badge watch the top gear version, it will show you why e.t.c

[25syndromet]

how can anyone say that the bmw is ugly looking? it looks more civilized and IT IS quciker than the R32. why would they do this test in sleightly wet weather conditions when one car is 4wd and the other one's rear. not fair

[Cookey77]

R32 everyday of the week. Proper sound from a proper car.

[MrCocacolamaniac]

The BMW is more expensive , less practical and slower . Why would anybody buy it??? VOLKWAGEN R32 IS THE BEST!!!

[DerLetzteLude88]

@MrCocacolamaniac : Why would anybody buy a r32? It's still a shitty Golf...

[MrCocacolamaniac]

@DerLetzteLude88 Because its cheaper faster a better looking and you wouldnt look like a cock that couldnt afford a bigger bmw

[DerLetzteLude88]

@MrCocacolamaniac The R32 looks almost like a normal Golf for students....and you tell something about afford?

[p0u1]

@DerLetzteLude88 a 135 m sport just looks like you want a m3 but to tight :-p

[DerLetzteLude88]

@p0u1 : you can't compare a 135 with a M3....R32 is still a ugly Golf...

[MrCocacolamaniac]

@DerLetzteLude88 By the looks of it you are a BMW maniac and I am a VW maniac so I think we won't reach an agreement on this.

[DerLetzteLude88]

@MrCocacolamaniac : Seriously, I'm no BMW maniac...but you're right with the agreement

[arrrg86]

@MrCocacolamaniac because it doesnt understeer and because its a BMW and not a VW.

[wazzuppskater1]

@MrCocacolamaniac because the BMW drives a lot better.

[UD2]

@MrCocacolamaniac because its a BMW?

[pigspenis]

nazi's cars

[tonysnow76]

R!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.....

[zSkyHigh]

have fun with that bmw in the winter....

R32!!!!

[dilawer321]

@zSkyHigh Yeah men can drive in the winter, you only need 4wd if your a woman

[GermanNoLimit89]

Bad test! ...U can never test, how is the quickest car on the track, if u drive all of the corners in a drift!!! ...it´s such a unexact result! bad bad bad....speachless!

[RelentlessIntentions]

Fuck the Beemer frankly :| Its so ugly!

[realvirtualinsanity]

@RelentlessIntentions You're a closetfag. Your dad knows.

[RelentlessIntentions]

@realvirtualinsanity I dont see the connection between an ugly german hunk of shit, and me being gay. Try explaining it to my girlfriend, then after, maybe she can break it down for me better. I'm sure together we can get through this.

[snowwalk]

@chaosmonkey79 because its a garbage

[XXXxxxGAVESxxxXXX]

yeah this horney nigger needs to drive this piece of shit fast or his transvestite ass will show

[rasta172]

GOLF WINZZZZ!!! Watch top gear with the same cars - tech data is way different of what they said in 5th gear.

[alernest]

I don't mean to say it's the same, I only drove the plane-jane 120d but it didn't feel like a whole-BMW. You sit almost on the rear axle but somehow the chassis doesn't feel right. The whole layout may be deliberately set for safe understeer (the dumb masses probably can't handle RWD) and not for oversteer as the Old BMW Glories.

Dead front axle, numb steering... it didn't convince me.

I saw MT says the 135i coupé understeers too...

LET'S HOPE THEY FIX IT FOR THE M1!!!

[caseyryeback1913]

Golf all the way

[nicenow25]

what does notchy mean



[ganzhorton]

R32 - Perfect for drug dealers and accountants. In the dry the BMW would have it.

[marjangulic]

hehe vw has neve been quality car, and it lost it's name (wolks vagen) it's to expencive to be wolks. New VW consum 2 or more liter of engine oil on oil change interval hehe - that's quality :)

[lyubenvelev]

The R32 is the better one, and BMW logically lost

[lyubenvelev]

The R32 is the better one

[FEGTTTSDH]

GO VW!!!

[minnimerc]

shame about the advert ........

[Buttmunch5000]

both of them are great

[NiallatUTube]

The R32 is nicer looking, has 4 wheel drive, and the "hot hatch" heritage. Done deal!

[CainG88]

The new Golf R was a letdown, 2.0L TSI engine at 260 bhp or so, I hate this eco-movement. NA engines are going down the toilet... BMW M engines are going to be turbod (the new M5 V8 engine is a twin turbo), the Megane RS is 2.0T engine at 250 bhp. The next Clio RS will have a 1.6T engine... gay!!!

[NiallatUTube]

I will not touch an engine that is not a) V6 and b) Turbo. Ideally it must be Biturbo. I drive an Audi Allroad V6 2.7 BiTurbo with 290HP and 440 Nm torque. It's great!

[ANGIELSKIORZEL]

Fuck the track anyway! what roads in the real world are like that? put the bmw and the r32 against each other on any A road and the bmw will shit all over it.

[Chunkychucky]

Amen brother!

[MrLoose26]

this guy a car addict... best drug in the entire world

[onlinevideo100]

BMW suck $%&*& ILL murder your family VW is the fucken KING

[csuka86]

lame...

[CRDLIBERTY]

Yeah i know its all wheel drive wonder if it still has the fwd feeling of the older vws. Both cool cars the vw could be made a race car sweet rain rig.

[themahdiking]

GOLF WINS

[GtrEvo]

1:04.. orgasm from tiff.. ajojoaoja

[KingCast65]

Well sure the BMW is a bit (not much) better car, but as to the conditions, shit man in England that's what you get so often so it is an apt comparison IMO.

And I've owned 7 Dubs and 5 Bimmers and currently a Bimmer ('85 535i) so I'm not biased either way.

[WarFite]

No offence VW lovers , basically i think the BMW is a much more better car.

[MrLoose26]

why is it a better car ? because its calld bmw?

[Dominguero36]

Because it has a better engine, and it's rear wheel driver. But that's personal off course.

But for on a race track it's certainly better.

[mikelguti]

it's personal....i have the bmw and i love it....but the R32 is inside bigger....but i dont like the VW inside...the Bmw is incredible and sport.......and i love it!!!!!

[mikelguti]

and the engine is incredible....more than the 2.0TFSI of the Audi S3 and the 3.2 of VW

[PLAYmorePAINTBALL]

@MrLoose26 haha yeah cause its called a BMW were all stupid enough to be taken up by marketing bullshit. lol what a laugh and porsches suck too right!

[CRDLIBERTY]

Ive owned vw and bmw lol. BMW owns VW, they have never been a fair comparison, never will be. That driver can drive i wouldnt want to try and keep up. FWD is not a drivers car.

[vragamuffin]

Its not FWD. Its 4WD.

[mada88]

The R32 is fat.

[LukeParkersMusic]

I love the R32.. dont care about speed just overall how it drives and looks

[Fisherdaz1]

What on earth are you lot on about!! A BMW 5 series is a good car, a BMW 3 series is a great car. In fact BMW are amazing engineers. Which is why anyone with half a brain would simply ask "Why on earth did they waste their lives building the one series?". They should have stuck to the exec saloons market, thats what they are good at. The one series, i hate to say, is a wet fish compared to its rivals from Ford, VW and Audi across the whole range, especially top end. What a pointless car!!

[MisterWannabee]

I respect your opinion, but after owning two 3-series cars before my current 1-series, I have to say you're mistaken! The 3-series always left me wanting for just a bit more; little firmer suspension, little quicker steering, little less weight - and now I have exactly those things in my 128i with Sport Package. Most fun car I have ever driven!

[mcximus]

the road is wet so it favors the 4wd

[cranding]

he really annoying its amost like he wanted the golf to win

if he didnt drift in the bmw it would of been quicker

the golf basically a fwd car most of the time ,the only time its propaly 4wd is when your going fast aroun corners and wen you wheel spin

[KreuzbergPlayaz]

what an idiot...stop drifting around the corners if u want to time your round,...

[TransporterEurope]

Ha Ha Ha,,, this is not true, man wake up you cant conmpare an VW with an BMW ,NEVER.

BMW haves a better cars than VW.

who has fooled Ha ha ha view all specs and al tests and you will see

[EatMyLederhosen]

BMW POWER !!!

[nickeroo]

Your brand snobbery blinds you from the reality of the situation.

[F1U2C3K4Y5O6U999]

congratulations to VW! Nobody could have expected that a 4WD-car could ever beat a rear drive car on wet surface on a tiny little track like this...

[TheVtieg6]

Ive never been a big fan of R32s but its proved itself by beating a more powerful BMW.

[aechdlg]

i prefer the 130i

[oleszno]

@aechdlg me too

[phikes]

This question is a matter of preference. I own an mkV R32, but I can understand why someone would go for the GTI. The GTI is lighter, turbo charged, cheaper, and has almost identical performance. But by almost I mean slower. ;)

Kidding aside they are both good cars for two different types of buyers. They just happen to look alike.

[CanOfMinus]

A recent car magazine put a modified GTI (suspension & engine management upgrade) against a R32 and the R32 was still faster around a track. Remember though, the GTI is a touring car, if you want to get the most bang for your buck for an inexpensive FWD Hatch then get a MazdaSpeed3.

[fabsbsd]

Of course VW rules! it has a lot of Audi tech :)

[voltor46]

¬¬

Audi tech?

Sorry, but I think Audi uses VW Group tech :)

VW = Audi = Skoda = Bugatti = etc. have the same tech.

[TheBrokenEclipse]

mh... no, Audi has the tech that will be in VW in a couple of years.

thats most duo to Audi is the more luxury brand that VW has.

[voltor46]

Sorry but, VW and Audi are very similar. Is an A4 better than a Passat? Bought have the same tech.

The same engines, the same gearboxes (S-tronic = DSG), and Audi is not the most luxury brand that VW Group has. It is Bugatti, and the next is Lamboghini.

[TheBrokenEclipse]

what i ment was for example, the four wheel drive is often first tested on Audis, because its better, then its converted over to the VW's.

its MOSTLY like that, and yes your right, they do have lambo and Bugatti which is their "super brands" if i am alloved to call them that :P

[srwapo]

You can buy a GTI and make it faster than an R32 for less money, but the R32's AWD will put the power down better in the corners and most likely win at the track. Is that worth the extra cost?

Also, no manual transmission in the R32, though it has the slick DSG. Up to you if that matters.

Personally, I saved the money and got a manual GTI.

[caracolcek]

BOTH GERMAN, BOTH GOOD CARS..!

[3fICaz043]

VW RULES!!!! FUCK....

[tomcroose69]

lets so who wins on a dry track!

[nnmau1800]

nice only power r32...

[KoKoLuTzU]

Whats The Top Speed Of Vw r32?

[phikes]

155 mph

[mr130i]

BMW POWER

[koen1597536]

Top gear rocks!

[wherry951]

Do you reckon Tiff Nedell is the stig? I reckon he is because he used to be a professional le-mans racer and he was like one of the main people in the program. I dont reckon they would of got rid of him, just made him the stig. In some of clarksons vids, he says even Tiff couldnt do this, which shows clarkson thinks tiff is better. so maybe

[almro]

Golf R32 <3

[freddy8teen]

you stupid fuck,fift gear was top gear before

[jameswalker99]

Turns out your the stupid fuck, Fifth Gear and Top Gear are separate programs. Fitth Gear is on Channel5 and Top Gear on BBC. Tiff and Vicky used to be on top gear however clarkson is the only one left.

[JoeThaDreamer]

go golf!

[dentoray]

but better skill though.

[SRQshark]

they copied top gear.

[downrightgeorge]

I guess you prefer Clarkson & Stig to Needles & VIck. Are you mental?

[SRQshark]

clarkson is cooler because he is an idiot. needel is a fag because he doesnt shut the fuck up and also while he is going straight he pretends hes powersliding.