Just go to a medical detox, I was doing 1000/2000 mg of roxy a day until i fucked up and had precipitated withdrawal because of suboxone. I almost killed myself. PW is like a demon from hell entering your soul. The detox clinic helped me just fine now I'm okay.
My wife would find me in all parts of the house. Once I fell down a couple of steps and amazingly I didn't hurt myself. When I stopped I eventually relapsed. Something that has made a huge help in my recovery is Lamictal. For me it suppresses the euphoria and find it pointless to waste any more money on pills.
I agree with others that subs are hell to come off of. The worst withdraw I ever experienced. I used it for about 4 months. Far to long to stay on this. A dr told me that any ethical dr will not keep you on it for more than 2 weeks. It gave me horrible edema in my legs forwards the end which was what made have to stop taking. Also, made me sleep walk
GOING COLD TURKEY WITH SOMEONE THERE TO PAMPER YOU IS THE ABSOLUTE ONLY WAY TO GO. DO NOT TRY SUBOXONE, GOING COLD TURKEY AND STAYING AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO DO GET HIGH IS THE ONLY WAY.
Screw the negatives about Suboxene....it is a life saver it will knock those withdrawals da fuck out.....but the only negative of it is yea it takes your withdrawals in very light stages of withdrawals.....it seems like it jus takes so damn long to feel better again....but it's a total lifesaver if dispensed to you by a very trustful person in your home.....that way you r taking the right steps to get clean and the medication is taking properly.....
i need someones help ive been hooked on pills for a long time now i cant stop, i want to go to rehab or get on methadone, im not afraid of wd its the mental part really, how can i get free insurence in pa, i dont feel like calling or doing it online i just want to go to a place and leave with medicare where can i go in conshohocken pa or plymouth meeting pa soemone please....
Thankyou for this video, its greatly appreciated my friend! Fuck fitty35 for his stupid coment.. He says he has experience yet hen cant correctly spell the word.lol. Godbless you!!
if you use suboxone for lil bit after using pain killers it can help with getting rid of withdrawls but if you abuse it because doctors will prescribe you lots then i know people who have got addicted to suboxone after they tried stopping with opiates.but it is a life saver for those that use it wisely and are determined to quit.
i'm sorry there are so many mean people out there. everyone is different. everyone reacts differently, & to see another man calling another man a pussy because he's taking suboxone.....not nice. thanks for your input on your experience with suboxone. while it may be another "med to replace another med", it's probably much better than what could happen if the nightmare with pills continued on & on.
wow, if you're withdrawaliing from 1mg and dying then jesus, i was coming off 2mg cold and that was so low, from 16mg a day to 8mg, to 4mg to 2mg then i'll space out the shit for when it's really bad, take a real little bit
@flitty35 Thats very poor for u to say that, Cold turkey is dangerous with these particular drugs.... And you say you have experience, yet you cant correctly spell the word experience?.lol. Hmm,mm, lets all listen to this guy!
Thanks for sharing dude,glad 2 here your feelin better.I myself had accident,and got prescribed morphine,now addicted to morphine for a year.I was an alcoholic before this new addiction,which complicates things.Finally got off morphs with clonidine,what hell i went through,even threatened 2 kill my doc! Unfortunately, i still feel the urge for morphine anytime i hurt my back,its been 2 years now,guess u never forget over that euphoria..what a nightmare..
FUCK SUBOXONE! Whats up with "men" these days? Man the fuck up! Be sick for a day or two or three and thats it! Noone can help you but you, dude. They want your money for the rest of your life. They don't really want to help you. Its on you man, and its a shame to see a fellow man being such a pussy
@Dwoodward47 why do you have to name call asshole!! I was on suboxone for a long time ...its a good drug to eliminate the withdrawals all iam saying is make it short term...
@Dwoodward47 why do you have to name call asshole!! I was on suboxone for a long time ...its a good drug to eliminate the withdrawals all iam saying is make it short term...
What the fuck am I supposed to do if I am addicted to percosets? Someone please help me is suboxone the only way? I've tried cold turkey and its impossible...my stomach feels like its gonna explode and it feels like i have bugs crawling in my skin...I get the night sweats and am really anxious/nervous and start freaking out. These things were the best thing that ever happened to me for the time being, now its fucking hell. I need to get off these BAD
From a medical and behavioral perspective, if a user can start keeping an accurate JOURNAL, they can keep track of their dose and time of dosage. Using this the individual should attempt to reduce the amount of each dose and/or spread the time out for doses. You can work down off of it. Most will SLIP UP. Do not beat yourself up. Just keep that journal and keep working down. It's easier on you physically and psychologically.
@618Bdown Thats not true at all. When you come off suboxone your not coming off just "suboxone". Your coming off of suboxone PLUS everything other thing that you had put in your body over the previous years. Also to further pove my point a Partial Agonist by its absolute definition will NEVER produce the same dependent states that Full Agonist opiates will. If you disagree with any of this you are in fact disagreeing with all we have come to know about neuralplasticity and neurochemistry.
if you think that narcotic withdrawl isn't pure hell, your full of it. I've been addicted and every way possible to quite. I'm much better now, but still deal with the addiction every day. Withdrawl can be torture, and even fatal. Several doctors have told me that narcotic withdrawl is NOT fatal, but withdrawl to other perscriptions such as xanax, can be fatal. I've tried every way possible to quite, with the help of church, doctors, weening down and cold turkey. There is no easy way.
People exaggerate withdrawal symptoms,yeah you're sick for a few days,,,so what big deal.Suboxone is good if you want to trade one addiction for another.
an opiate is an opiate, i say. i never noticed the difference in the withdrawls no matter what opiate it was, ya know? to much dispute over something that is pretty is to figure out. it's all hell.
@144 church you gotta be kidding! sorry but it's hell. 3to 5 days? i think not. the months after are hell as well. i'm not sure what you were on but it must have been easy for you.
my lungs out. but it can be done I am doing it.I am a person that never even took an asprin in my life before the hydrocodone. I got into a bad snowmobile accident that messed up my knee and my friends step mother gave me a few pain pills and told me to trust her, well they made me feel like super man. she had thousands of them in her cubbord b/c she filled them for 5 years and never took them. so before I knew it I was hooked! what a lonely fucking feeling!!!!!! I wanted to go to rehab but with
I congradulate you for your sobriety and for making this film! I have been on pills for 5 years maybe 6 and quit a few days ago. I have no healt insurance so the subs cost me 10 a piece on the street so I stock piled them before I quit. I wanted to quit years ago mentally but physically I couldnt deal with the withdrawls, I mean not to sound gross I could deal with the runny nose and the diaharea but it felt like SUPER anxiety at nite and like I was going to jump out of my skin and rip my
Suboxone can be a life saver, it's true. BUT, PLEASE anyone out there considering this med, please research as much as possible first. Many doctors will start you at a way higher dose than needed. You can end up with a MONSTER addiction to the buprenorphine. I learned the hard way. My 2 cents: Start with as low of a dose as possible that will keep w/d's at bay (almost never more than 4mg/day once stabilized) and taper off as quickly as you can. The longer you're on them, the worse off you'll be
@lennymo36 Ycket to long term addiction, yep. Been on Subutex for nearly 5 years. Did a cold turkey, 2 months later still felt so bad that I had to go back on a low dose. Still on a low dose. Don't go on subs for more than 20 days...it's hell to get off. Similar to methadone withdrawal, very similar
after you break the addictive cycle with subs, after whatever time u decide. sub has a way of letting you know when ur done with it. however the half-life on it is killer and it is equal to 30 or 40 mg of methadone. so i recommend wean down to what u can 2mg or less, then lightly eat vicodin for around 2 weeks. it only lasts 6 hours so ur body will start adjusting to non-constant opiates and the bup will block the high for a week or more. Then just wean off the vics. 2 weeks. w/d at night.
definetly tough esp when you take it periodicly throughout the day i do hard work im 23 i roof do road construction anything thats laboress an hard workin i do lol but i had a tooth problem i got some painkillers as well as my mother was on them now i always am eating them no less than 30 mg of vicoden at a time a couple times a day unless i have oxycodone/ percoset 10mg i eat those the same like candy im starting to notice now my attitude is changing i always want them
Everybody, it doesnt have to be so black and white. Try quitting cold turkey 1 or 2 times. If that dont work then it could be a good idea to get on suboxone to let the addict behavior subside. That way when you do quit, ul be dealing primarily with just withdrawals from the subs but not so much cravings because you havnt been high since you started the subs. Not as fresh in your mind u dont miss the rush as much. Thats whats hard bout cold turkey. ur kicking, feelin bad AND craving.
I've tried soboxen... It's hard to get off those.. Anyone trying to quit try tramadol.. It's easier to quit those you will still have withdraws but not as bad
Dude, I know this video was made along time ago.I did'nt bother reading the post either.Eventually you have to stop suboxone,that's where i'm at. Hope your as happy now as you were making this video,": without suboxone". Good luck to you!!
the endorphines in your brain are basically killed by the opiates---that euphoric feeling is no longer natural anymore--it takes a long recovery for them to grow back in your brain without opiates--it sucks so bad--i still take them--it's a bitch--good story from this man--congrats to him--God bless him--
Thanks for your honesty. I was addictd to ultram and I was taking up to 3x the normal dose and getting sicker and sicker everyday. A friend gavee me the number of a clinic and I went. they put me on Suboxone and it was like a miracle! check out Subox Doc for great information and support
You CAN quit cold turkey or ween yourself off, you just dont want it bad enough. Suboxone is just another source of the same shit. Don't kid yourself.
Hi Steve. Suboxone also saved my brother's life. Period, right? It saved his life...AND it has saved a lot of people's lives.. like you :-)
Congrats on getting married and for putting this video message out - it is nice that you want to help others and spread the word. Ignore the negative commments and congrats on your recovery!
the best way is Quit Cold Turkey and go threw the withdrawls and start replenishing the body with vitamins, minerals and water. Take niacin to help push those toxins out of the body. Replacing a drug with a drug doesn't work, the drug addict behavior is still instilled.
@Supernaught16 - suboxone is something used with therapy and suboxone isnt a full opiate like OC or percocet or morphine, u know opiates..... suboxone is a partial opiate with a opiate blocker in it (nelexone) so its not like methadone at all because meth is a full opiate, so getting help while on suboxone u have a 75% more of a chance of getting and staying clean.... too many people die trying to be brave and go cold turkey, or end up in the hospital because they have no fluids or nutrients
@Supernaught16 Its way deeper than that. When you start taking any opiate your brain quits making dopamine, dopamine helps with the little achs and pains in your body, it takes awhile for your brain to start producing it again, this is a reason why you hurt. The outside opiates you take create receptors in your brain, the longer you take them the more receptors you make, it can take years for these receptors to deplete themselves, this is why you get cravings for opium. Theres a lot more to it..
@KrautAttack78 Yeah you couldn't be more correct. However, i've experienced this and i'm 4 months clean from a 4 year doctor prescribed addiction to percocet and oxycontin (also using fentanyl patches, ms contin, etc). Yeah... you fall into slumps... you don't feel like doing anything... but you have to get over that feeling. If you can mentally overcome that (like i did) you will be SO much stronger in the long run. If you're dependant on a doctor giving you meds forever.. u get the point.
@KrautAttack78 You've gotta get a full time job, drink some coffee to get yourself going in the morning (if needed), put on your "man pants" and sack up... all the time you've been taking pills has made you weak... it's time to freakin stand up and make a change. Set your future up, save money, exercise, make changes to your life and your family and make your self proud.
If you do all of that... you'll forget about feeling bad. Because you've made so much of yourself. SO EASY! Get it done.
@mattman4020 I was only explaining the chemistry of it, sometimes it helps to know whats going on in the brain. There are more relapses because people quit cold turkey and did not let their brains slowly adjust. By the way, I've been free of addiction for almost two years now. Good luck to you and your wife.
@KrautAttack78 Yeah i gotcha, and you're right for the most part. Definitely informative and correct.
I can see what you're saying about cold turkey people relapsing. but getting off the drugs is heavily dependant on how you were getting them and how compulsive you were (Therefore training your brain to act/feel a certain way). I was prescribed them for 4 years for a chronic condition, and as soon as my condition went away, i wasn't prescribed them anymore. I think thats why its easy for me?
@KrautAttack78 And also, the reason i stopped cold turkey was because i was so sick of waking up and feeling like crap until i took some pills. I was so far beyond done with it, and that alone gave me enough HOORAH to just do it.
I have absolutely no cravings, because if i ever took them again.... i would eventually have to withdrawal... lol. I don't see why anybody would put themselves through that for a second time.
Don't say you can't do it cold tukey... because i did.
I was taking six to seven 10/325 MG Percocets a day along with three to four 60MG Oxycontin's a day.
My wife and i had like 6 oxy's left, we flushed them down the toilet and just started the withdrawal process. She ended up in a detox place taking suboxone, and i did it cold turkey.
The day after she stopped the suboxone and a week after that, she was in hell.
All in all, it's worth going through the worst part and getting it over with.
@mattman4020 - doing it cold turkey with that baby shit, yes ofcourse u can do it, but once u get into morphine ,hydromorphone or OXyContin, try doing it cold turkey.... u cant. literally, they end up relapsing a month later because the drive is still there..... u may have quit cold turkey, but ya mind isnt clean for about 6 months after your finished using...
@ME3RZ11 If you read my message i said i was taking 6-7 10/325 MG percocets AND 2-3 60MG oxycontin's a day, for 4 years. So, i have a full understanding of how insanely miserable withdrawing it. This past Friday was my 4 month anniversary, and i'm completely over it. I was taking the pain meds by prescription, not on the street. My pain is gone and i'm done with the meds.
Relapsing is for people whose minds are equivalent to a fetus. GET OVER IT. Life is much harder that withdrawing.
@ME3RZ11 I successfully did it cold turkey, my wife had to go to a detox center. So, you cannot tell me that you can't do it cold turkey. I don't need a crutch to get over a feeling. Pain is only as bad as you perceive (SP?). Yeah there are definitely exceptions, but withdrawing is SO mental.
And that old tired ass 12 step program and "finding god" is for the birds. People just need to get over themselves and realize they have life to face, not just withdrawing.
@mattman4020 - i agree with you, im saying u CANNOT do it cold turkey with out a good chance of dying or ending up in the hospital if u are using high dosages of Oxy Contin or Heroin, i've seen it happen in the clinic.... some ppl can do it cold turkey, but the snorters and shooters ive never seen them go cold turkey, never in my whole career...... good discussion tho, lets keep it going,lol, ur the first person i could talk to without it turning into a dumb argument :D peace
The reason that some people CAN do it and some other CAN'T is directly due to how mentally weak they have become over the course of their addiction. They CAN do it, but they have become so weak, they trick their brain into thinking they're going to die.
There are going to way way worse objects in life to overcome. And if you're not mentally stong enough to get youself out of what YOU put yourself into.... how are you going to be able to face life? I should write books XD
@mattman4020 - you should write a book, when i was addicted to pain meds, i just said fuck it and went cold turkey, went a month clean then told my doctor i was clean but had urges to use like a mother f'er so he put me on suboxone. while i was on suboxone i had oral surgery done with no Novocaine or anything, i felt everything and by the next week i stoped the suboxone because after that i trully understood what pain really was, i almost passed out 5 times from the pain. lol, keep this going :D
My wife (then fiance) and i had been on pain pills for 4 years, and i was out of my prescription. My doctor refused to refill the RX 2 weeks early. We only had like 8 Oxy's left and like 15 percocets. So at that point we decided fuck it, that's enough. We flushed the Oxy's and weaned ourselves down that day to 3 percocets and then just stopped. It was agony at the time. But so easy in comparison with the big picture of life.
@mattman4020 - exactly bro!!!!! u got it right on the fucking head there, u nailed it, we should make a like video blog or just a blog about opiate dependance, u down? ill create it...
@mattman4020 The reason suboxone is used it because it "plugs" the opiate receptors that were created during the opiate abuse or use. It helps to let these receptors deplete themselves over the time of treatment which can be years, this is why people get cravings, those receptors need to be filled for the brain to feel normal. The brain sends signals to the body similar those being sent when someone is starving to death when one is going through opiate withdraws. As you know, opium is no joke.
@KrautAttack78 Thanks for that... i guess. But i have a full understanding of how Suboxone works, my wife took it. But she did it smart, she took it for 1 week, and the strength was only 2 MG. After 1 week, she stopped that also. But, she had to withdrawal from that... so it didn't help her at all. In the mean time, i was already almost done withdrawing, and i was taking care of her. So all in all, cold turkey and manning the fuck up and doing it, that's the way to go. Weak minds lose.
@mattman4020 Your advice doesn't help the people who take the dose that you take in one day, in just one dose. Telling someone who is taking 1,000 to 1,500mg a day to just man up is stupid.
Avoid this shit like the plague. I had so many health problems on this drug, especially extreme hypertension. People mistakenly think this is just a typical opioid drug with a longer 1/2 life but like stadol, talwin, and nubain it is part opioid antagonist. This side of the drug can do lots of bad things to the body! Methadone is better if you really wanna try a replacement opioid.
Dude, suboxone is fucking evil man. The only withdrawal worse than suboxone is methdaone, or iv heroin. I've never done the latter two, but withdrawaling from 1mg suboxone per day made me literally want to die. Look into alternatives. It's half life is twice that off oxycodone, so withdrawals are LONGER. If you truly need it, then good luck.
@RipTheJacker0ats not true at all. When you come off suboxone your not coming off just "suboxone". Your coming off of suboxone PLUS everything other thing that you had put in your body over the previous years. Also to further pove my point a Partial Agonist by its absolute definition will NEVER produce the same dependent states that Full Agonist opiates will. If you disagree with any of this you are in fact disagreeing with all we have come to know about neuralplasticity and neurochemistry.
what some people dont realize is that some people have a exteme time quiting oxy abuse because they are snorting or hitting the needle. if you quit the needle or snorting or chewing cold turkey with out a replacement for help then thats great. but some people have to use suboxone or methadone for help. and as long as they have quit the abusing then who cares if they take it. its what helped them to quit and thats what matters isnt it?? godbless.
Hi all, I too am an opiate addict. I was using IV heroin everyday for over 4 years. I got on suboxone at first without insurance and had to pay $7 per pill for 90 pills per month plus Dr. fees, which was more than $600 a month just to stay clean. I've since gotten great insurance which allows me to get all my suboxone for free and I have a lot of extra suboxone scripts left over. I am willing to help anybody out who wants to get clean but doesn't have the funds to do it. Msg me......
firts, congrats on your marriage. just a quick question. do you find that suboxone helps with pain as well as stopping opiate cravings? my spine got smashed up in an accident. i was on about 800mg of oxycontin for years. had enough. got detoxed under anasthetic. i'm now maintained on 30mg of methadone a day (allot better than all that oxy) because it has pain killing effects as well as helping with cravings. in other words, it's a partial agonist/partial antagonist. appreciate any response. ty
@jacotango that is amazing you was able to quit that high of dosage. even if you wasnt abusing them. thank god youre alive but i believe that methadone is a full antagonist instead of a partial. one. and suboxone is a partial. maybe im wrong so i will check drugs dot com to check again. but its still better than what you was doing. the only thing though is people try to get that high like they are used to getting from oxy and over dose on methadone. sad but true. good luck
Suboxone is just another opiate.. your cravings stop because your feeding it. Your only taking the first step to kicking the addiction, you have a long ways to go buddy.
Tell me how you feel when you want to come off suboxone? Tell me what your testosterone level is being on Suboxone? Suboxone is good for a 5 day taper. That is what it was supposed to be used for. Now its used for maintenence. These companies are keeping us on drugs.
@lamfrocks both arms and legs. MUCO DINERO AMIGO! 2 PILLS FOR 25$ !!!! Bastard pharmaceutical companies are raking it in, it costs the same as a heroin fix.
i was on percs and vics, and even morphine, im on suboxone now 8 months, no cravins, im down to 4 mgs in AM,2 mgs in the PM<,,,,,,,,,,go to counseling too, without it youre going to use!!
word of advise, DO NOT allow yourself to go on higher and higher doses of bupe (subs). It will eventually be just like opiates and stop working. Here's the secret about bupe, less is more. honostly the less you take, and the longer you go without taking it, the better you will feel. dont belive me?> go 24-36 hours without taking anything, then take half the dose you normally take so if your on 8mg, take 4... if your on 4, take 2. stay on that half dose every other day, then every 3 days-liveable
Whats up bro, i guess u from Long island/queens so you know this opiate shit is out of control here, and probably everywhere else. im from suffolk county and its easier for me to count the friends i have that arent on drugs then the ones that are, theres just too many of em. just sayin wutup. i was stubborn and refused to go on subs even after lots of relapses. the vics, percs, oxys, and heroine ruined my life but i said fuck it, went on subs and started NA and things are goin good. gd luck
man, I know exactly what your talking about, I have tried to quit several times. The withdrawal was awful. I have an appointment with my Doc this morning - will post a blog on the doc talk and hopeful prescribe for suboxone! Thanks so muchfor your posting!
great video....thanks for taking time to post it, going through addiction right now myself about 20 norcos a day and its nice to hear theres help out there, did you have to go to a specialist for the suboxone or any reg doctor?
moose, you have to go to a doctor that is allowed to prescribe, but once you do find that doctor your life will immediately change for the better. just listen to what this guy is saying, it will save your life.
good man, atleast you got married.. thats a huge step
lorenzokirbiano 6 days ago
Thank you for sharing. I know exactly what you mean. I pray I get the same help you did. I'm only 35 years old and I can't live like this forever.
Onazzz808 1 week ago
Just go to a medical detox, I was doing 1000/2000 mg of roxy a day until i fucked up and had precipitated withdrawal because of suboxone. I almost killed myself. PW is like a demon from hell entering your soul. The detox clinic helped me just fine now I'm okay.
durtylurty2 1 week ago
@durtylurty2
can you tell me the clinic the you wen
TheHaioriadx 3 days ago
*reads title*
WHY!?
fluffyzhangfei 2 weeks ago
My wife would find me in all parts of the house. Once I fell down a couple of steps and amazingly I didn't hurt myself. When I stopped I eventually relapsed. Something that has made a huge help in my recovery is Lamictal. For me it suppresses the euphoria and find it pointless to waste any more money on pills.
emailtdh 3 weeks ago
I agree with others that subs are hell to come off of. The worst withdraw I ever experienced. I used it for about 4 months. Far to long to stay on this. A dr told me that any ethical dr will not keep you on it for more than 2 weeks. It gave me horrible edema in my legs forwards the end which was what made have to stop taking. Also, made me sleep walk
emailtdh 3 weeks ago
Suboxone is 100 times worse than any opiate you are trying to come off of.
LauraMcNasty 1 month ago
Wait til you come off this shit !! You'll wish you were dead!
herbpable 1 month ago
GOING COLD TURKEY WITH SOMEONE THERE TO PAMPER YOU IS THE ABSOLUTE ONLY WAY TO GO. DO NOT TRY SUBOXONE, GOING COLD TURKEY AND STAYING AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO DO GET HIGH IS THE ONLY WAY.
88wmsmith 1 month ago
withdraw from hydro isnt shit compared to withdraw from subs, sub withdraw lasted me about 6 or 7 weeks crazy madness
88wmsmith 1 month ago
Screw the negatives about Suboxene....it is a life saver it will knock those withdrawals da fuck out.....but the only negative of it is yea it takes your withdrawals in very light stages of withdrawals.....it seems like it jus takes so damn long to feel better again....but it's a total lifesaver if dispensed to you by a very trustful person in your home.....that way you r taking the right steps to get clean and the medication is taking properly.....
scgurl2001 1 month ago
Awww god bless u my friend!
scgurl2001 1 month ago
i need someones help ive been hooked on pills for a long time now i cant stop, i want to go to rehab or get on methadone, im not afraid of wd its the mental part really, how can i get free insurence in pa, i dont feel like calling or doing it online i just want to go to a place and leave with medicare where can i go in conshohocken pa or plymouth meeting pa soemone please....
bigseen95 1 month ago
Thankyou for this video, its greatly appreciated my friend! Fuck fitty35 for his stupid coment.. He says he has experience yet hen cant correctly spell the word.lol. Godbless you!!
skyskrape66 2 months ago
if you use suboxone just to get thru the wd , you can do it. dont take that shit forever! or long term. just do it and ween down everyday.
j2thakhomeboy 2 months ago
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MrsFuckOffRabies 2 months ago
i quite cold turkey,this is my 7th day,it was 4 nights of hell,but wasnt that bad.now people are addicted to suboxone
18wheeler76 2 months ago
if you use suboxone for lil bit after using pain killers it can help with getting rid of withdrawls but if you abuse it because doctors will prescribe you lots then i know people who have got addicted to suboxone after they tried stopping with opiates.but it is a life saver for those that use it wisely and are determined to quit.
YoungalQeadaGeneral 3 months ago
i'm sorry there are so many mean people out there. everyone is different. everyone reacts differently, & to see another man calling another man a pussy because he's taking suboxone.....not nice. thanks for your input on your experience with suboxone. while it may be another "med to replace another med", it's probably much better than what could happen if the nightmare with pills continued on & on.
ftpixelsticks 3 months ago
Subtext the white ones helps me.
brennaliiah1112 4 months ago
wow, if you're withdrawaliing from 1mg and dying then jesus, i was coming off 2mg cold and that was so low, from 16mg a day to 8mg, to 4mg to 2mg then i'll space out the shit for when it's really bad, take a real little bit
TheMensaGenius 4 months ago
no longer a slave because iam off all pills including suboxone
flitty35 4 months ago
go cold turkey you fucking moron... you'll be on suboxone forever......iam talking through experiance
flitty35 4 months ago
@flitty35 Thats very poor for u to say that, Cold turkey is dangerous with these particular drugs.... And you say you have experience, yet you cant correctly spell the word experience?.lol. Hmm,mm, lets all listen to this guy!
skyskrape66 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing dude,glad 2 here your feelin better.I myself had accident,and got prescribed morphine,now addicted to morphine for a year.I was an alcoholic before this new addiction,which complicates things.Finally got off morphs with clonidine,what hell i went through,even threatened 2 kill my doc! Unfortunately, i still feel the urge for morphine anytime i hurt my back,its been 2 years now,guess u never forget over that euphoria..what a nightmare..
milli446 4 months ago
FUCK SUBOXONE! Whats up with "men" these days? Man the fuck up! Be sick for a day or two or three and thats it! Noone can help you but you, dude. They want your money for the rest of your life. They don't really want to help you. Its on you man, and its a shame to see a fellow man being such a pussy
Dwoodward47 5 months ago
@Dwoodward47 ...its take a month to feel normal ...suboxone saves lives
flitty35 5 months ago
@flitty35 you are a pussy. suboxone saves lives my ass! You are quite the credulous slave, arent ya?
Dwoodward47 4 months ago
@Dwoodward47 why do you have to name call asshole!! I was on suboxone for a long time ...its a good drug to eliminate the withdrawals all iam saying is make it short term...
flitty35 4 months ago
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@Dwoodward47 why do you have to name call asshole!! I was on suboxone for a long time ...its a good drug to eliminate the withdrawals all iam saying is make it short term...
flitty35 4 months ago
What the fuck am I supposed to do if I am addicted to percosets? Someone please help me is suboxone the only way? I've tried cold turkey and its impossible...my stomach feels like its gonna explode and it feels like i have bugs crawling in my skin...I get the night sweats and am really anxious/nervous and start freaking out. These things were the best thing that ever happened to me for the time being, now its fucking hell. I need to get off these BAD
everythingsmagic420 5 months ago
From a medical and behavioral perspective, if a user can start keeping an accurate JOURNAL, they can keep track of their dose and time of dosage. Using this the individual should attempt to reduce the amount of each dose and/or spread the time out for doses. You can work down off of it. Most will SLIP UP. Do not beat yourself up. Just keep that journal and keep working down. It's easier on you physically and psychologically.
crackahcrackah 5 months ago
Let me guess...your still on Suboxone..That shit is a million times harder to come off of..the half life make the PAWS so much longer..
618Bdown 6 months ago 5
@618Bdown Thats not true at all. When you come off suboxone your not coming off just "suboxone". Your coming off of suboxone PLUS everything other thing that you had put in your body over the previous years. Also to further pove my point a Partial Agonist by its absolute definition will NEVER produce the same dependent states that Full Agonist opiates will. If you disagree with any of this you are in fact disagreeing with all we have come to know about neuralplasticity and neurochemistry.
Blazen1212 3 months ago
@618Bdown I would agree wit that, how did u successfully get off suboxone?
ods1ODS 3 weeks ago
if you think that narcotic withdrawl isn't pure hell, your full of it. I've been addicted and every way possible to quite. I'm much better now, but still deal with the addiction every day. Withdrawl can be torture, and even fatal. Several doctors have told me that narcotic withdrawl is NOT fatal, but withdrawl to other perscriptions such as xanax, can be fatal. I've tried every way possible to quite, with the help of church, doctors, weening down and cold turkey. There is no easy way.
crazyjack312 6 months ago
schedule 1,2 3, 4 5. look them up and see where your opiate falls.
iamjeona 6 months ago
People exaggerate withdrawal symptoms,yeah you're sick for a few days,,,so what big deal.Suboxone is good if you want to trade one addiction for another.
144church 6 months ago
an opiate is an opiate, i say. i never noticed the difference in the withdrawls no matter what opiate it was, ya know? to much dispute over something that is pretty is to figure out. it's all hell.
iamjeona 6 months ago
@144 church you gotta be kidding! sorry but it's hell. 3to 5 days? i think not. the months after are hell as well. i'm not sure what you were on but it must have been easy for you.
iamjeona 6 months ago
my lungs out. but it can be done I am doing it.I am a person that never even took an asprin in my life before the hydrocodone. I got into a bad snowmobile accident that messed up my knee and my friends step mother gave me a few pain pills and told me to trust her, well they made me feel like super man. she had thousands of them in her cubbord b/c she filled them for 5 years and never took them. so before I knew it I was hooked! what a lonely fucking feeling!!!!!! I wanted to go to rehab but with
chrisGspot14225 6 months ago
I congradulate you for your sobriety and for making this film! I have been on pills for 5 years maybe 6 and quit a few days ago. I have no healt insurance so the subs cost me 10 a piece on the street so I stock piled them before I quit. I wanted to quit years ago mentally but physically I couldnt deal with the withdrawls, I mean not to sound gross I could deal with the runny nose and the diaharea but it felt like SUPER anxiety at nite and like I was going to jump out of my skin and rip my
chrisGspot14225 6 months ago
Suboxone can be a life saver, it's true. BUT, PLEASE anyone out there considering this med, please research as much as possible first. Many doctors will start you at a way higher dose than needed. You can end up with a MONSTER addiction to the buprenorphine. I learned the hard way. My 2 cents: Start with as low of a dose as possible that will keep w/d's at bay (almost never more than 4mg/day once stabilized) and taper off as quickly as you can. The longer you're on them, the worse off you'll be
whatnamesnottakenyet 7 months ago
@friendoflnks your right you got me =)
strocat25 7 months ago
subs messed with my breathing bad.. had to stop em
gotnokush 7 months ago
suboxone is the ticket.........
lennymo36 8 months ago
@lennymo36 Ycket to long term addiction, yep. Been on Subutex for nearly 5 years. Did a cold turkey, 2 months later still felt so bad that I had to go back on a low dose. Still on a low dose. Don't go on subs for more than 20 days...it's hell to get off. Similar to methadone withdrawal, very similar
cockywatchman1976 7 months ago
Thanks for your experience and sharing it
vintageyellow71 8 months ago
Ummm they dont make 10 mg vicodin.. they make 7.5 es and 12.5mg Hp.
anywayz hope u liked suboxone.. i been on it a while and its saved me from getting hooked back on pain pills. =) suboxone = gold
strocat25 8 months ago
@strocat25 THEY DO make10mg vics. At least 2 years ago they did. they looked like the 7.5's but yellow
bmwm321m 7 months ago
@bmwm321m yeah watson 9...something, dont see un often
GlockShooter83 7 months ago
@strocat25 wrong. HPs are 10.
friendofInks 7 months ago
U can get hooked on suboxone too and get withdraw from that
jestevez143 1 year ago 2
after you break the addictive cycle with subs, after whatever time u decide. sub has a way of letting you know when ur done with it. however the half-life on it is killer and it is equal to 30 or 40 mg of methadone. so i recommend wean down to what u can 2mg or less, then lightly eat vicodin for around 2 weeks. it only lasts 6 hours so ur body will start adjusting to non-constant opiates and the bup will block the high for a week or more. Then just wean off the vics. 2 weeks. w/d at night.
cheapmovies25 1 year ago
definetly tough esp when you take it periodicly throughout the day i do hard work im 23 i roof do road construction anything thats laboress an hard workin i do lol but i had a tooth problem i got some painkillers as well as my mother was on them now i always am eating them no less than 30 mg of vicoden at a time a couple times a day unless i have oxycodone/ percoset 10mg i eat those the same like candy im starting to notice now my attitude is changing i always want them
ramblinman111 1 year ago
@ramblinman111 you just gotta cut loose of that shit man. there a dead end to nowhere
TheMistermuppet 1 year ago
Suboxone is a bitch too tho but it def doesnt foster the same addict behavior.
ods1ODS 1 year ago
Everybody, it doesnt have to be so black and white. Try quitting cold turkey 1 or 2 times. If that dont work then it could be a good idea to get on suboxone to let the addict behavior subside. That way when you do quit, ul be dealing primarily with just withdrawals from the subs but not so much cravings because you havnt been high since you started the subs. Not as fresh in your mind u dont miss the rush as much. Thats whats hard bout cold turkey. ur kicking, feelin bad AND craving.
ods1ODS 1 year ago
I've tried soboxen... It's hard to get off those.. Anyone trying to quit try tramadol.. It's easier to quit those you will still have withdraws but not as bad
bornagainroma 1 year ago
Dude, I know this video was made along time ago.I did'nt bother reading the post either.Eventually you have to stop suboxone,that's where i'm at. Hope your as happy now as you were making this video,": without suboxone". Good luck to you!!
johnebb3 1 year ago
the endorphines in your brain are basically killed by the opiates---that euphoric feeling is no longer natural anymore--it takes a long recovery for them to grow back in your brain without opiates--it sucks so bad--i still take them--it's a bitch--good story from this man--congrats to him--God bless him--
pbf316 1 year ago
@pbf316 how long does it take for your endorphins to come back in your brain??
TheMistermuppet 9 months ago
pray and ask god to help you...you dont need more pills to stop
BrandonJohn777 1 year ago
Thanks for your honesty. I was addictd to ultram and I was taking up to 3x the normal dose and getting sicker and sicker everyday. A friend gavee me the number of a clinic and I went. they put me on Suboxone and it was like a miracle! check out Subox Doc for great information and support
singinglady48 1 year ago
You CAN quit cold turkey or ween yourself off, you just dont want it bad enough. Suboxone is just another source of the same shit. Don't kid yourself.
Whisper0ak 1 year ago
Hi Steve. Suboxone also saved my brother's life. Period, right? It saved his life...AND it has saved a lot of people's lives.. like you :-)
Congrats on getting married and for putting this video message out - it is nice that you want to help others and spread the word. Ignore the negative commments and congrats on your recovery!
dgrrrl 1 year ago
switching one drug with another is not quiting.
kjetring 1 year ago
@kjetring its a process. one to the next, itll help you be healthy again. stop commenting on videos that you have no experience with the issue.
JTWolf89 11 months ago
the best way is Quit Cold Turkey and go threw the withdrawls and start replenishing the body with vitamins, minerals and water. Take niacin to help push those toxins out of the body. Replacing a drug with a drug doesn't work, the drug addict behavior is still instilled.
Supernaught16 1 year ago
@Supernaught16 - suboxone is something used with therapy and suboxone isnt a full opiate like OC or percocet or morphine, u know opiates..... suboxone is a partial opiate with a opiate blocker in it (nelexone) so its not like methadone at all because meth is a full opiate, so getting help while on suboxone u have a 75% more of a chance of getting and staying clean.... too many people die trying to be brave and go cold turkey, or end up in the hospital because they have no fluids or nutrients
ME3RZ11 1 year ago
@Supernaught16 Its way deeper than that. When you start taking any opiate your brain quits making dopamine, dopamine helps with the little achs and pains in your body, it takes awhile for your brain to start producing it again, this is a reason why you hurt. The outside opiates you take create receptors in your brain, the longer you take them the more receptors you make, it can take years for these receptors to deplete themselves, this is why you get cravings for opium. Theres a lot more to it..
KrautAttack78 1 year ago
@KrautAttack78 Yeah you couldn't be more correct. However, i've experienced this and i'm 4 months clean from a 4 year doctor prescribed addiction to percocet and oxycontin (also using fentanyl patches, ms contin, etc). Yeah... you fall into slumps... you don't feel like doing anything... but you have to get over that feeling. If you can mentally overcome that (like i did) you will be SO much stronger in the long run. If you're dependant on a doctor giving you meds forever.. u get the point.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@KrautAttack78 You've gotta get a full time job, drink some coffee to get yourself going in the morning (if needed), put on your "man pants" and sack up... all the time you've been taking pills has made you weak... it's time to freakin stand up and make a change. Set your future up, save money, exercise, make changes to your life and your family and make your self proud.
If you do all of that... you'll forget about feeling bad. Because you've made so much of yourself. SO EASY! Get it done.
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KrautAttack78 1 year ago
@mattman4020 I was only explaining the chemistry of it, sometimes it helps to know whats going on in the brain. There are more relapses because people quit cold turkey and did not let their brains slowly adjust. By the way, I've been free of addiction for almost two years now. Good luck to you and your wife.
KrautAttack78 1 year ago
@KrautAttack78 Yeah i gotcha, and you're right for the most part. Definitely informative and correct.
I can see what you're saying about cold turkey people relapsing. but getting off the drugs is heavily dependant on how you were getting them and how compulsive you were (Therefore training your brain to act/feel a certain way). I was prescribed them for 4 years for a chronic condition, and as soon as my condition went away, i wasn't prescribed them anymore. I think thats why its easy for me?
mattman4020 1 year ago
@KrautAttack78 And also, the reason i stopped cold turkey was because i was so sick of waking up and feeling like crap until i took some pills. I was so far beyond done with it, and that alone gave me enough HOORAH to just do it.
I have absolutely no cravings, because if i ever took them again.... i would eventually have to withdrawal... lol. I don't see why anybody would put themselves through that for a second time.
Thanks man i appreciate it! Good luck to you too!
mattman4020 1 year ago
Don't say you can't do it cold tukey... because i did.
I was taking six to seven 10/325 MG Percocets a day along with three to four 60MG Oxycontin's a day.
My wife and i had like 6 oxy's left, we flushed them down the toilet and just started the withdrawal process. She ended up in a detox place taking suboxone, and i did it cold turkey.
The day after she stopped the suboxone and a week after that, she was in hell.
All in all, it's worth going through the worst part and getting it over with.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 - doing it cold turkey with that baby shit, yes ofcourse u can do it, but once u get into morphine ,hydromorphone or OXyContin, try doing it cold turkey.... u cant. literally, they end up relapsing a month later because the drive is still there..... u may have quit cold turkey, but ya mind isnt clean for about 6 months after your finished using...
ME3RZ11 1 year ago
@ME3RZ11 If you read my message i said i was taking 6-7 10/325 MG percocets AND 2-3 60MG oxycontin's a day, for 4 years. So, i have a full understanding of how insanely miserable withdrawing it. This past Friday was my 4 month anniversary, and i'm completely over it. I was taking the pain meds by prescription, not on the street. My pain is gone and i'm done with the meds.
Relapsing is for people whose minds are equivalent to a fetus. GET OVER IT. Life is much harder that withdrawing.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@ME3RZ11 I successfully did it cold turkey, my wife had to go to a detox center. So, you cannot tell me that you can't do it cold turkey. I don't need a crutch to get over a feeling. Pain is only as bad as you perceive (SP?). Yeah there are definitely exceptions, but withdrawing is SO mental.
And that old tired ass 12 step program and "finding god" is for the birds. People just need to get over themselves and realize they have life to face, not just withdrawing.
Get it done.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 - i agree with you, im saying u CANNOT do it cold turkey with out a good chance of dying or ending up in the hospital if u are using high dosages of Oxy Contin or Heroin, i've seen it happen in the clinic.... some ppl can do it cold turkey, but the snorters and shooters ive never seen them go cold turkey, never in my whole career...... good discussion tho, lets keep it going,lol, ur the first person i could talk to without it turning into a dumb argument :D peace
ME3RZ11 1 year ago
@ME3RZ11 Haha thanks.
The reason that some people CAN do it and some other CAN'T is directly due to how mentally weak they have become over the course of their addiction. They CAN do it, but they have become so weak, they trick their brain into thinking they're going to die.
There are going to way way worse objects in life to overcome. And if you're not mentally stong enough to get youself out of what YOU put yourself into.... how are you going to be able to face life? I should write books XD
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 - you should write a book, when i was addicted to pain meds, i just said fuck it and went cold turkey, went a month clean then told my doctor i was clean but had urges to use like a mother f'er so he put me on suboxone. while i was on suboxone i had oral surgery done with no Novocaine or anything, i felt everything and by the next week i stoped the suboxone because after that i trully understood what pain really was, i almost passed out 5 times from the pain. lol, keep this going :D
ME3RZ11 1 year ago
@ME3RZ11 Damn that's rough. Dental pain definitely sucks.
My wife (then fiance) and i had been on pain pills for 4 years, and i was out of my prescription. My doctor refused to refill the RX 2 weeks early. We only had like 8 Oxy's left and like 15 percocets. So at that point we decided fuck it, that's enough. We flushed the Oxy's and weaned ourselves down that day to 3 percocets and then just stopped. It was agony at the time. But so easy in comparison with the big picture of life.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 - exactly bro!!!!! u got it right on the fucking head there, u nailed it, we should make a like video blog or just a blog about opiate dependance, u down? ill create it...
ME3RZ11 1 year ago
@ME3RZ11 Fuck it, yeah why not. I actually have a lot to say about the subject. Friend me or whatever and let's do the damn thing.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 The reason suboxone is used it because it "plugs" the opiate receptors that were created during the opiate abuse or use. It helps to let these receptors deplete themselves over the time of treatment which can be years, this is why people get cravings, those receptors need to be filled for the brain to feel normal. The brain sends signals to the body similar those being sent when someone is starving to death when one is going through opiate withdraws. As you know, opium is no joke.
KrautAttack78 1 year ago
@KrautAttack78 Thanks for that... i guess. But i have a full understanding of how Suboxone works, my wife took it. But she did it smart, she took it for 1 week, and the strength was only 2 MG. After 1 week, she stopped that also. But, she had to withdrawal from that... so it didn't help her at all. In the mean time, i was already almost done withdrawing, and i was taking care of her. So all in all, cold turkey and manning the fuck up and doing it, that's the way to go. Weak minds lose.
mattman4020 1 year ago
@mattman4020 Your advice doesn't help the people who take the dose that you take in one day, in just one dose. Telling someone who is taking 1,000 to 1,500mg a day to just man up is stupid.
canes50 3 weeks ago
Avoid this shit like the plague. I had so many health problems on this drug, especially extreme hypertension. People mistakenly think this is just a typical opioid drug with a longer 1/2 life but like stadol, talwin, and nubain it is part opioid antagonist. This side of the drug can do lots of bad things to the body! Methadone is better if you really wanna try a replacement opioid.
tat2villain 1 year ago
@chandlerdakid
Dude, suboxone is fucking evil man. The only withdrawal worse than suboxone is methdaone, or iv heroin. I've never done the latter two, but withdrawaling from 1mg suboxone per day made me literally want to die. Look into alternatives. It's half life is twice that off oxycodone, so withdrawals are LONGER. If you truly need it, then good luck.
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riddick074 1 year ago
@RipTheJacker0ats not true at all. When you come off suboxone your not coming off just "suboxone". Your coming off of suboxone PLUS everything other thing that you had put in your body over the previous years. Also to further pove my point a Partial Agonist by its absolute definition will NEVER produce the same dependent states that Full Agonist opiates will. If you disagree with any of this you are in fact disagreeing with all we have come to know about neuralplasticity and neurochemistry.
Blazen1212 3 months ago
Thanks for this vid bro. God bless you and I'm proud you worked it out. I'm still trying to beat my own addiction, but I'll look into suboxone.
chandlerdakid 1 year ago
what some people dont realize is that some people have a exteme time quiting oxy abuse because they are snorting or hitting the needle. if you quit the needle or snorting or chewing cold turkey with out a replacement for help then thats great. but some people have to use suboxone or methadone for help. and as long as they have quit the abusing then who cares if they take it. its what helped them to quit and thats what matters isnt it?? godbless.
39tommyboy 1 year ago
now your hooked on suboxion and there harder 2 find and 10 times more xpensive
redbulljustice99 1 year ago
@redbulljustice99 Yeah, but you only need one a day, instead of 10-15 roxy's.
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Georgie2500 1 year ago
firts, congrats on your marriage. just a quick question. do you find that suboxone helps with pain as well as stopping opiate cravings? my spine got smashed up in an accident. i was on about 800mg of oxycontin for years. had enough. got detoxed under anasthetic. i'm now maintained on 30mg of methadone a day (allot better than all that oxy) because it has pain killing effects as well as helping with cravings. in other words, it's a partial agonist/partial antagonist. appreciate any response. ty
jacotango 1 year ago
@jacotango that is amazing you was able to quit that high of dosage. even if you wasnt abusing them. thank god youre alive but i believe that methadone is a full antagonist instead of a partial. one. and suboxone is a partial. maybe im wrong so i will check drugs dot com to check again. but its still better than what you was doing. the only thing though is people try to get that high like they are used to getting from oxy and over dose on methadone. sad but true. good luck
39tommyboy 1 year ago
Suboxone is just another opiate.. your cravings stop because your feeding it. Your only taking the first step to kicking the addiction, you have a long ways to go buddy.
plocco 1 year ago
can i do it in 3 weeks? yeah,
Rico8458 1 year ago
Anyone need to get on suboxone I can help them get on free. If there in los angeles area they can start in a few days. Drop me a line or two. ez
EZgoN2 1 year ago
Tell me how you feel when you want to come off suboxone? Tell me what your testosterone level is being on Suboxone? Suboxone is good for a 5 day taper. That is what it was supposed to be used for. Now its used for maintenence. These companies are keeping us on drugs.
kruseman44 1 year ago
HOW MUCH IT COST?
lamfrocks 1 year ago
@lamfrocks both arms and legs. MUCO DINERO AMIGO! 2 PILLS FOR 25$ !!!! Bastard pharmaceutical companies are raking it in, it costs the same as a heroin fix.
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
ya sounds great but it sucks cause some ppl dont have health insurance
motleycrue24 1 year ago
go to narcotics anonymous, you will need a program when you get off that stuf.
mniel8195 1 year ago
i was on percs and vics, and even morphine, im on suboxone now 8 months, no cravins, im down to 4 mgs in AM,2 mgs in the PM<,,,,,,,,,,go to counseling too, without it youre going to use!!
GOOD LUCK
JOHNNYIRON40 1 year ago
word of advise, DO NOT allow yourself to go on higher and higher doses of bupe (subs). It will eventually be just like opiates and stop working. Here's the secret about bupe, less is more. honostly the less you take, and the longer you go without taking it, the better you will feel. dont belive me?> go 24-36 hours without taking anything, then take half the dose you normally take so if your on 8mg, take 4... if your on 4, take 2. stay on that half dose every other day, then every 3 days-liveable
runarmyof1 2 years ago
Whats up bro, i guess u from Long island/queens so you know this opiate shit is out of control here, and probably everywhere else. im from suffolk county and its easier for me to count the friends i have that arent on drugs then the ones that are, theres just too many of em. just sayin wutup. i was stubborn and refused to go on subs even after lots of relapses. the vics, percs, oxys, and heroine ruined my life but i said fuck it, went on subs and started NA and things are goin good. gd luck
ods1ODS 2 years ago
man, I know exactly what your talking about, I have tried to quit several times. The withdrawal was awful. I have an appointment with my Doc this morning - will post a blog on the doc talk and hopeful prescribe for suboxone! Thanks so muchfor your posting!
bipolarjay 2 years ago
great video....thanks for taking time to post it, going through addiction right now myself about 20 norcos a day and its nice to hear theres help out there, did you have to go to a specialist for the suboxone or any reg doctor?
Moose1836 2 years ago
moose, you have to go to a doctor that is allowed to prescribe, but once you do find that doctor your life will immediately change for the better. just listen to what this guy is saying, it will save your life.
zbyszek654 2 years ago