So, that treasonous Papandreou says the austerity package is the only way Greece will get back on it's feet...WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIT!!!!
GET OUT OF THE EU, TELL THE BANKERS TO FUCK OFF, TELL GERMANY TO GIVE BACK THE GOLD THEY STOLE FROM GREECE DURING WW2, PRINT YOUR OWN FUCKING MONEY BACKED BY GOLD AND SILVER & YOU WILL HAVE BILLIONS FLOODING INTO GREECE. GREECE WOULD BECOME ONE OF THE RICHEST NATIONS BECAUSE NO OTHER NATION HAS MONEY BACKED BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE FAITH OF THE PEOPLE!
If the Germans and the Japanese could rise from the ashes of World War II, so can the Greeks recover from their present predicament. They have the ethnic pedigree to rise from adversity - are they not descended from the ancient warriors of Sparta and the sages of Athens?
Much as i hate internatationalist/globalist captialism, greece cannot do it alone. Most 'developed' countries are overpopulated and that means they are slaves to the global market and must follow the whims of stock markets and banks :(
Reduce population until the nation can grow food for itself! This is the first step toward true national sovereignty
While you were busy harassing MACEDONIA, your government started to fuck the whole greek nation in the same time. Now you wont have money to pay even your internet bill. This is only the beginning of the end of your country. You are going to be slaves now and you are going to work like niggers to pay off your debt.
@germanloger Dude don't be overdramatic. 90% of the population here is still standing tall >.> wtf do you think we are doing? Begging for food? And working like slaves? Lol. And please. Oh wait I just checked your account. You're from monkeydonia! It explains everything! :D
Buying and selling countries on the open market. That's the next and near-final stage of capitalism, and global corporate slavery by extension. We have been moving steadfastly towards a technologically rational civilization where the masses are seen as mere instruments - or means to an end and not ends in themselves - in order to achieve global domination, and dominion over essentially disposable entities. What a fucked up experiment for a supposed civilization to conduct.
@pendarsam yeah sorry, i think it's because of our current president, you see Barry's Mom told him to shut up about who his father is and told him that it was one weird night and he's lucky he doesn't bark.
@pendarsam I'm not commenting on a race or culture. I'm commenting on their political ideaology and economical methods of operation.
One does not need to know anything about a countries culture or its ethnic race to know the gist of their economic situation. All you need is a basic understanding of economics and a summary of their social politics.
@pendarsam " Ok lets put it this way, how do you know it wouldnt of happened anyway? What proof do you have? "
Why would I want to prove it? I look at what's right in front of me, a country falling apart because of its unrealisitic socialist programs man. Alternate outcomes aren't even considerable. Just that socialism has failed them and that their rioting againist the government when they themselves are just as guilty for consuming freebies and living luxirously off debt. That's stupid.
Next week on 60 minutes; Queers who battle jihad by day... then at night... it's off like a prom dress to "You Mecca Me Hot" or "The Turban Cowboy" for a brute goo chugg fest.
@pendarsam you mean Americanized? We left your asses bitch because your King & Queen dress up and pretend overtaxed was too fucking gay for us individules whose balls clang when we walk.
We even kicked your asses twice to get you assholes the fuck out of our lives...
"Nation wide unions are declining to 7% of the work force. In terms of government workers their peak is being reached because there is a sustained public reaction against the excesses of what unions have done, in terms of salaries and most of all in terms of benefits and wrecking our economy, the way they did Greece and elsewhere.
Look what they did to Detroit, in 1970 GM had 395,000 blue collar workers, today it’s 38,000 because they made themselves uncompetitive"
the greeks have a dept. that oversees a lake that was drained years ago?do you think the greeks that work in that dept. want to give up their jobs of course not-- google it it is a true story
Restaurateur Andy Puzder stated he is opening 300 restaurants in Texas and has decided not to open any in California. When asked why he gave this response;
In Texas you can get full permit approval in 6 weeks, in California it takes 8 months. In Texas they let you run it. In CA. for example they won’t let management work more than 50% of the time in non-managerial capacity. Excessive labor/operating laws wrapped in duplicative taxes and the highest cost of doing business in the nation.
@100crawma You are missing the point. The Greek people did not run up this debt, their Government did with the help of Goldman Sachs who cooked the books. The Greeks work 40.6 hours a week, most of all 27 EU member states.
Do some research, educate yourself. Otherwise you just look like a pig ignorant bigot.
@1Guitarslayer You are missing the point, the money was never spent on the Greek people. The money did not really exist in the first place, only in the virtual economy. Goldman Sachs cooked the books for Greece to join the EU, they then proceeded to conspire This debt is not one the Greek people incurred, nor is the UK debt one the UK people incurred etc each country is the same to a more or lesser degree The debt was accumulated by creative accounting by some very corrupt devious bankers
@1Guitarslayer You need to of been paying attention to the goings on since the Clinton administration & indeed as far as the Fed goes long before to have a real grip on this. Let me give you a little analogy: I have a hair cut for sale, it's value is £10, Mr A comes along buys the hair cut from me, repackages it into 100 options of a hair cut & sells each option for £10, Mr has made £1000.
@Kinkspace Hey idiot... no you are missing the point;
DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN
if your elected officials are doing something illegal then prosecute them. In the mean time quit holding your hands out... it makes you all look like a bunch of fags...
@1Guitarslayer In your haste to rush in with a point I have already acknowledged you have made you have failed miserably to acknowledge mine. Draw a breath before you open your mouth, give your brain cell a fighting chance :)
@Kinkspace hey Kinky, are you dudes ever able to get laid over their... I mean don't all the women think all you guys are fucking little girls who need a government to pay for everything and tell you what to do? Or do they have no concept of what a real man is?
@1Guitarslayer Mr B comes along, buys all the 100 options & repackages & sells them as 1000 options @ £10 each, he makes £10,000... this process goes on about 40,000 times. There is still only one hair cut. People start cashing in their options. They cannot all have the haircut. This is what banks have done with over the counter derivatives & just about every product in that market place, from prison bonds to sub primes.
@1Guitarslayer This should be an illegal practice, it is an illegal practice, governments have respectively not just turned a blind eye, they have taken the money from the tax payers to bail out the banks. Then there is another fraud in that on paper they have made it look like the cancer banks have paid back the money to the tax payer & are now healthy.
@1Guitarslayer They have done neither in reality & continue on their merry journey. Tony Blair & Gordon Brown both have executive high paid positions in these banks.
In short the people never borrowed the money, the banks leveraged what did not exist & now the people are being asked to pay the debt with money from the real economy into the virtual economy of fraudulent banking. If we pay things will only get worse It has nothing to do with your simplistic perception.
@100crawma The Greek people are not responsible for the debt. Your churlish comprehension of economics & the current situation not to mention the reality of the Greek working week being higher in hours than any other EU country & one of the worst paid, not to mention your complete trust in the corrupt politicians & bankers that created this mess in the first place, stands here in comments as a monument to your stupidity.
@100crawma No Panocracy is the answer but it will not be a feasible option right this minute today due to vast embracing of willful ignorance & lack of responsibility, both personal & collective as displayed by yourself & other :)
@pendarsam Well you'd have to provide proof for that assessment, otherwise I'd have to disregard it.
The fact of the matter here is, Greek is in the position it is in because of socialism. You can speculate all day long about what would have happened had Greek not been a socialist country, but the facts remain.
@pendarsam The problem isn't corruption, the problem is irresponsible and unsustainable socialist programs. There's a huge difference between the two.
@pendarsam thats not true at all, I run with a pretty large crowd who would rather shove bamboo up their fingernails that take a taxpayer funded handout... we build America with this attitude!
@pendarsam nope, because the lazy greeks did not turn the freebies down,always thinking someone else will pay for it, well it is time to pay the piper
@pendarsam be that as it may, how is rioting going to solve anything??, the situation is a shit sandwhich, and no greek will be able to avoid taking a bite
@pendarsam would be the best thing for all involved- let the greeks sink all on their own, this problem did not start with the EU, BUT with papandreau and his father in the 80s and the whole cronie govt. that are to bloated
lazy greek bastards have no one to blame but themselves- look in the mirror if you greek cunts want to blame someone- germany will not come to the rescue again
@pendarsam personally i think its imperial to start electing leaders by merit and not by empty words and political inclinations... we will always need to be governed... i too obviously am in favor of an abolition but with a much better alternative and very flexible, because, what we know today we have to be ready to improve tomorrow..
@100crawma with no debt there is no problem, the problem will be finding or a new way of govern or continue with democracy and learning with the mistakes...
i do not understand what can possibly hold back people besides PERSONAL INTERESTS.
how degrading does this world have to get when in a time of unprecedented crisis you get the Pope typing is first message on Twitter?
can you notice the total lack of responsibility and uncomprehending the positions they occupy?
@Abaddon1594 who started the politics of global immigration?
what is wrong with these people....
yeah Portugal is full of multi-culture, look what has it done, people working under conditions with no contracts... below minimum-wages... any intelligent person KNOWS this had to be PLANNED, only an IDIOT blames ILLITERATE people for the TERRIBLE GOVERNANCE of INTELLIGENT and EDUCATED people.
The greeks are idiots. They've sucked the government dry through their unsustainable socialist freebie programs and now they're rioting because they can't live a life of luxury.
@MinmatarThrasher educate yourself please, we are all tired of idiots that solve their problems calling idiots to entire countries and using words like "sucking" to express themselves.
most probably you dont even care for you own family much less the others..
@MrPilotans I am educated on the issue. You can't dismiss facts and then demand people who present them to educate themself. You should take your own advice.
@MinmatarThrasher you cannot simply ignore the greeks are spoiled on their entitlements,and like spoiled children are having a temper tantrum when daddy takes the candy away---- booo hoooo
@MrPilotans For taking the candy offered to them. If the Greek people declined the socialist programs that they've become so dependant on then Greece wouldn't be in the problem they are in today.
@MinmatarThrasher im sorry but the way we live today is not intelligent. socialism right wing left wing communism fascism WHATEVER are NOT forms of governance, they are forms of CONTROL, in the greatest extent possible, water, land, oil, gas, money you name it.... grown people are more dependent then babies.
if i have an alternative? i dont, feel free to disagree, what im trying to say is that in the end people arent to blame by false agendas empty words and false promises in the name of few..
all about status quo, profit rates, control of the recourses and of people. how?
instead of invading every single country to maintain control they prevent its growth and even exploits them till the point that becomes impossible to pay the debts and then they come such a nice guys borrowing money in the thousands of millions.
thats control right there.
it will pass 50 years and the debts will still not be payed off.
time for the greeks to have my skinny greek wedding, they been fat enough, stolen all that money was given to them over the years when they have no economy to speak of, sleeping all afternoons, waiting for tourist to come and drop few dollars and shipping goods only economy is not going to cut it, time to work like everyone else in EU and retire later,free lunch is over get ready, but l think Grece still will defult and go bankrupt, an Kicked out of EU for good
I see an Arab spring turning into a Mediterranean summer! MADNESS! ....Honestly, can somebody tell me were this 110 BILLION bail out is going to go?!?!...I mean is it going to the people of Greece?..No, its going to pay off the debts the governments have created over their periods of time spent in power!.The debt is being recalled all over the world. Every human being has heard the word AUSTERITY. This is not local to the Greeks, this is simultaneously happening everywhere. Welcome to the NWO
freedom and democracy is just words in reality it does not exist. where was all the demonstrations around the world when we all had good times ? Where were the people fighting at how easy credit was.
@cheeckybutnice true, i personally am against these hypocritical methods of rule..
people aren't to blame! go deeper, who decided to impose credit, legislate it, promote it world wide, my god was the people the cause of derivatives?
again i say, it takes an idiot to believe that an illiterate people is to blame for the terrible governance of intelligent and educated people. it does not make sense, doesn't it make more sense that this was planned??!
@cheeckybutnice hahahh very true, but we will always need govern, just not like this.
i dont vote nor pay taxes, just the obligatory when you buy anything, but that is impossible to avoid.
believe it or not, real freedom only here on internet at least in the level of communication, i have already noticed the coincidence of a tool called internet that makes possible the communication with anyone in the world ;)
@cheeckybutnice yes yes your right they are also trying to pull a law to block sites and survey it...
but i meant we can talk to anybody in the world and KNOW the conditions they live or to start a movement, the movement in Egypt would never happen without Internet hence they blocked hence a massive revolution, but America or any developed country does not have that option, because it wouldn't be just kids protesting, in developed countries almost everyone is dependent on Internet ..
@bulmer13 Are you stupid?You leaving across on the other side of the lake and u saryign that Greeks dont pay taxes?Correction it is the "rich" that do not pay and the poor that pay.Basicall,y the foriegn cooperations have not payed taxes for years (government is to blame ofc).Many people such as your self are brain washed you all think this is for the worst but it is you people that can't judge a situation without the media holding your hand to guide you.Dont listen to US media, all bullshitters
@MrPilotans The same for the environment we are destroying everything for our future generations to suffer the old politicians do not care becausde they will pass away before they see the worst of this world! Greediness!
@darrenritt27 The Greeks don't have the balls of steel to do such a thing and if it does happen it will be a minority that will take lead and responsibility for the downfall of this capitlist state!
hey motherfuckers what about german dept 575 billions
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kopellhinex 4 months ago
British are rooling in Greece since 1945. Greece is just a colony.
2012majk 4 months ago
@WarWolfKrime Hello western brother!
ValkiryeMax 5 months ago
I am stunned at how many people have commented here who have no idea what they are talking about...MORONS!
What has been done to Greece has been done to all of us, and it will only get worse!!!!!!!
deth2theNWO 8 months ago
So, that treasonous Papandreou says the austerity package is the only way Greece will get back on it's feet...WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIT!!!!
GET OUT OF THE EU, TELL THE BANKERS TO FUCK OFF, TELL GERMANY TO GIVE BACK THE GOLD THEY STOLE FROM GREECE DURING WW2, PRINT YOUR OWN FUCKING MONEY BACKED BY GOLD AND SILVER & YOU WILL HAVE BILLIONS FLOODING INTO GREECE. GREECE WOULD BECOME ONE OF THE RICHEST NATIONS BECAUSE NO OTHER NATION HAS MONEY BACKED BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE FAITH OF THE PEOPLE!
deth2theNWO 8 months ago
@deth2theNWO Greece is British colony .
2012majk 4 months ago
i am shocked so many said no, to say all the voters are very rich.
imnotsickimjustaboy 8 months ago
If the Germans and the Japanese could rise from the ashes of World War II, so can the Greeks recover from their present predicament. They have the ethnic pedigree to rise from adversity - are they not descended from the ancient warriors of Sparta and the sages of Athens?
achahei 8 months ago in playlist Greeks riot against austerity vote
@pendarsam that is good to hear then, it means their destiny is in their hands
BVargas78 8 months ago
Much as i hate internatationalist/globalist captialism, greece cannot do it alone. Most 'developed' countries are overpopulated and that means they are slaves to the global market and must follow the whims of stock markets and banks :(
Reduce population until the nation can grow food for itself! This is the first step toward true national sovereignty
BVargas78 8 months ago
While you were busy harassing MACEDONIA, your government started to fuck the whole greek nation in the same time. Now you wont have money to pay even your internet bill. This is only the beginning of the end of your country. You are going to be slaves now and you are going to work like niggers to pay off your debt.
germanloger 8 months ago
@germanloger Dude don't be overdramatic. 90% of the population here is still standing tall >.> wtf do you think we are doing? Begging for food? And working like slaves? Lol. And please. Oh wait I just checked your account. You're from monkeydonia! It explains everything! :D
flitzthesoulreaper 8 months ago
Buying and selling countries on the open market. That's the next and near-final stage of capitalism, and global corporate slavery by extension. We have been moving steadfastly towards a technologically rational civilization where the masses are seen as mere instruments - or means to an end and not ends in themselves - in order to achieve global domination, and dominion over essentially disposable entities. What a fucked up experiment for a supposed civilization to conduct.
missingt00th 8 months ago
I'm otta here freaks, I leave you with this;
Winners do things losers won't
peace out!
the Slayer
so good it has to be fattening!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam the answer is no, you can't marry your goat.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer ROLMAO! I spat my hot cocoa out when this just popped in front of me ;)))
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@pendarsam How many wrinkles on an asshole?
Look in the mirrior, smile and start counting.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam Sweet! Do you Felch?
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam yeah sorry, i think it's because of our current president, you see Barry's Mom told him to shut up about who his father is and told him that it was one weird night and he's lucky he doesn't bark.
Liberalism = Dicksmokers
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam I'm sorry a typo, faggot has two g's
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam you forgot you brits like to suck on your fags = ciggaretts!! ROFLMAO!!!!!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam I'm not commenting on a race or culture. I'm commenting on their political ideaology and economical methods of operation.
One does not need to know anything about a countries culture or its ethnic race to know the gist of their economic situation. All you need is a basic understanding of economics and a summary of their social politics.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@pendarsam Mother = mum LMAO!!!!
butt = arse or bum
jack off = wanker
fucking illiterate bitches... how's your teeth?
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam mater.....and pater.....
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@pendarsam mum?? how do you assholes spell mother?
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
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@pendarsam here you go;
Q: Whats the difference between a dead muslim in the road and a dead American in the road?
A: The American has skid marks in front of it.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam you anti semite arab....we are chosen by god.....you are goyim scum born to serve us....know your place,,,,,
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@pendarsam i have never been to somalia,i dont need to ,to know that it is a islamic shit hole
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam I was walking down the road when I saw an Afghan bloke standing on a fifth
floor balcony shaking a carpet.
I shouted up to him, "What's up pendarsam, won't it start?"
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
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@1Guitarslayer you are on a roll
100crawma 8 months ago
i hope israel sinks all those terrorist ships
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma tell your momma im coming round again tonight....
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@lumpfish99 nazi rouse
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma have you told your momma?....im bringing some friends this time too,
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@lumpfish99 sure my mother has a shotgun with your name on it
100crawma 8 months ago
unless you are one of those self hating jews,then fuck off
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma self hating jew!! thats nice....tell your momma im gonna shove that shotgun up her fat ass.....
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@pendarsam this moron is sticking up for the greeks because the pirate flotilla is sailing from greek ports to gaza
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam 911 was an Islam job
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam " Ok lets put it this way, how do you know it wouldnt of happened anyway? What proof do you have? "
Why would I want to prove it? I look at what's right in front of me, a country falling apart because of its unrealisitic socialist programs man. Alternate outcomes aren't even considerable. Just that socialism has failed them and that their rioting againist the government when they themselves are just as guilty for consuming freebies and living luxirously off debt. That's stupid.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
Muslim minorities in the UK have complained that there are not enough
television shows with minorities in mind, so Crimewatch is being shown
5 times a week now.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitars
yer thats prob y crimewatch is still full of white criminals cos thier all turning muslim when the go prison.
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@pendarsam Police in London have found a bomb outside a mosque..
They've told the public not to panic as they've managed to push it inside.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer lol
100crawma 8 months ago
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@pendarsam fuck off muslim filth
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma LOL!
Next week on 60 minutes; Queers who battle jihad by day... then at night... it's off like a prom dress to "You Mecca Me Hot" or "The Turban Cowboy" for a brute goo chugg fest.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam islam is a vile fucking death cult
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam ah we come to it finally, go ahead, tell us how it is the evil jews fault, you know you want to
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam you mean Americanized? We left your asses bitch because your King & Queen dress up and pretend overtaxed was too fucking gay for us individules whose balls clang when we walk.
We even kicked your asses twice to get you assholes the fuck out of our lives...
Next up... Obama!!!!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam spending money you do not have makes you an idiot , no matter where you live
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam i told you to go away arab.
lumpfish99 8 months ago
"Nation wide unions are declining to 7% of the work force. In terms of government workers their peak is being reached because there is a sustained public reaction against the excesses of what unions have done, in terms of salaries and most of all in terms of benefits and wrecking our economy, the way they did Greece and elsewhere.
Look what they did to Detroit, in 1970 GM had 395,000 blue collar workers, today it’s 38,000 because they made themselves uncompetitive"
Steve Forbes
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer thank god for that
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam I just observe & pay attention & aspire to overcome willful ignorance ;)
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@pendarsam a balanced check book is a balanced check book no matter what country you are in... RIGHT?!!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam i would bet you are on the dole and spend a lot of time in pubs?no
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam ive never been to afgainstan, does that mean it is not a shithole,your argument holds no water
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam Do you even know what you are saying?
1 million seconds is 12 days.
1 billion seconds is 31 years.
1 trillion seconds is 31,688 years. Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.
1 million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.
1 billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.
1 million hours ago was in 1885.
1 billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.
How many billions are they short?!!!!!!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam really??.....
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@pendarsam go away arab....its our land.
lumpfish99 8 months ago
remmember kids socialism is never the answer
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma Why? Hierarchy has lead to nothing but wars & misery.
Kinkspace 8 months ago
the greeks have a dept. that oversees a lake that was drained years ago?do you think the greeks that work in that dept. want to give up their jobs of course not-- google it it is a true story
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam You're accusing me of a weak argument but not even providing a counter argument as to why my argument was weak to begin with.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
Restaurateur Andy Puzder stated he is opening 300 restaurants in Texas and has decided not to open any in California. When asked why he gave this response;
In Texas you can get full permit approval in 6 weeks, in California it takes 8 months. In Texas they let you run it. In CA. for example they won’t let management work more than 50% of the time in non-managerial capacity. Excessive labor/operating laws wrapped in duplicative taxes and the highest cost of doing business in the nation.
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
we want our entitlements, but we dont want to work or pay for them
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma You are missing the point. The Greek people did not run up this debt, their Government did with the help of Goldman Sachs who cooked the books. The Greeks work 40.6 hours a week, most of all 27 EU member states.
Do some research, educate yourself. Otherwise you just look like a pig ignorant bigot.
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@Kinkspace 1 trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation... probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion.
TRY SPENDING LESS THAN YOU TAKE IN!!!!
really... it's not rocket science folks!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer You are missing the point, the money was never spent on the Greek people. The money did not really exist in the first place, only in the virtual economy. Goldman Sachs cooked the books for Greece to join the EU, they then proceeded to conspire This debt is not one the Greek people incurred, nor is the UK debt one the UK people incurred etc each country is the same to a more or lesser degree The debt was accumulated by creative accounting by some very corrupt devious bankers
cont..
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer You need to of been paying attention to the goings on since the Clinton administration & indeed as far as the Fed goes long before to have a real grip on this. Let me give you a little analogy: I have a hair cut for sale, it's value is £10, Mr A comes along buys the hair cut from me, repackages it into 100 options of a hair cut & sells each option for £10, Mr has made £1000.
cont...
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@Kinkspace Hey idiot... no you are missing the point;
DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN
if your elected officials are doing something illegal then prosecute them. In the mean time quit holding your hands out... it makes you all look like a bunch of fags...
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer In your haste to rush in with a point I have already acknowledged you have made you have failed miserably to acknowledge mine. Draw a breath before you open your mouth, give your brain cell a fighting chance :)
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@Kinkspace hey Kinky, are you dudes ever able to get laid over their... I mean don't all the women think all you guys are fucking little girls who need a government to pay for everything and tell you what to do? Or do they have no concept of what a real man is?
Are you all castrated at birth? what say you?
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer I am female & i can assure you I know a "real" man when I see one :)
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer Mr B comes along, buys all the 100 options & repackages & sells them as 1000 options @ £10 each, he makes £10,000... this process goes on about 40,000 times. There is still only one hair cut. People start cashing in their options. They cannot all have the haircut. This is what banks have done with over the counter derivatives & just about every product in that market place, from prison bonds to sub primes.
cont...
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@1Guitarslayer This should be an illegal practice, it is an illegal practice, governments have respectively not just turned a blind eye, they have taken the money from the tax payers to bail out the banks. Then there is another fraud in that on paper they have made it look like the cancer banks have paid back the money to the tax payer & are now healthy.
cont...
Kinkspace 8 months ago
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@1Guitarslayer They have done neither in reality & continue on their merry journey. Tony Blair & Gordon Brown both have executive high paid positions in these banks.
In short the people never borrowed the money, the banks leveraged what did not exist & now the people are being asked to pay the debt with money from the real economy into the virtual economy of fraudulent banking. If we pay things will only get worse It has nothing to do with your simplistic perception.
It's not rocket science!
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@Kinkspace sorry, the greeks liked all of the freebies, untill it came time to actually pay for it
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma The Greek people are not responsible for the debt. Your churlish comprehension of economics & the current situation not to mention the reality of the Greek working week being higher in hours than any other EU country & one of the worst paid, not to mention your complete trust in the corrupt politicians & bankers that created this mess in the first place, stands here in comments as a monument to your stupidity.
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@Kinkspace another usless english cunt who thinks that socialism is the answer
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma No Panocracy is the answer but it will not be a feasible option right this minute today due to vast embracing of willful ignorance & lack of responsibility, both personal & collective as displayed by yourself & other :)
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@pendarsam the poor greek babies , why they are so totally helpless,someone change their nappies
100crawma 8 months ago
The creed of the government unionized employee;
Women: Excuse me but people are drowning out their!!!
Lifeguard: Sorry, I'm a recovery summer lifeguard... I don't actually save anyone, I just blame the last lifeguard!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam Well you'd have to provide proof for that assessment, otherwise I'd have to disregard it.
The fact of the matter here is, Greek is in the position it is in because of socialism. You can speculate all day long about what would have happened had Greek not been a socialist country, but the facts remain.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@pendarsam yes, next i suppose you will be blaming jewish bankers? typical
100crawma 8 months ago
Governments need to stop asking "how much do we need" and start asking "how much do we have"
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@pendarsam The problem isn't corruption, the problem is irresponsible and unsustainable socialist programs. There's a huge difference between the two.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@pendarsam thats not true at all, I run with a pretty large crowd who would rather shove bamboo up their fingernails that take a taxpayer funded handout... we build America with this attitude!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
@welshrarebeats Unfortunately willful ignorance reigns supreme here in the UK.
Kinkspace 8 months ago
@pendarsam nope, because the lazy greeks did not turn the freebies down,always thinking someone else will pay for it, well it is time to pay the piper
100crawma 8 months ago
Keynesian economics doing what it does... running out of other peoples money;
government union SLACKERS!!!!!
1Guitarslayer 8 months ago
the main problem is the greeks thought that there was suck a thing as a free ride
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam like i said the greek people are just as much to blame as the EU
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam be that as it may, how is rioting going to solve anything??, the situation is a shit sandwhich, and no greek will be able to avoid taking a bite
100crawma 8 months ago
times are tough , austerity is the only possb chance, but the bloated greek goverment must be gutted top to bottom,just like the american govt.
100crawma 8 months ago
the greeks have a dept that oversees a lake that was drained years ago
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam would be the best thing for all involved- let the greeks sink all on their own, this problem did not start with the EU, BUT with papandreau and his father in the 80s and the whole cronie govt. that are to bloated
100crawma 8 months ago
@pendarsam id rather go to aruba
100crawma 8 months ago
take Greece out of European Union before it takes down whole Europe
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 8 months ago
@pendarsam why do you waste time? these guys are ignorant that dont understand they are ruled by the method you invented..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
lazy greek bastards have no one to blame but themselves- look in the mirror if you greek cunts want to blame someone- germany will not come to the rescue again
100crawma 8 months ago
if greece was an islamic country NATO would bomb them.....
lumpfish99 8 months ago
@lumpfish99 and sadly thats so true...
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@pendarsam personally i think its imperial to start electing leaders by merit and not by empty words and political inclinations... we will always need to be governed... i too obviously am in favor of an abolition but with a much better alternative and very flexible, because, what we know today we have to be ready to improve tomorrow..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
Spend a day in Athens and try to count the SUV's - Cadillac, Mercedes. BMW, Porsche .
Next, try to find a Greek working ( look close because the Albanians don't count )!
Abaddon1594 8 months ago
@Abaddon1594 exactly
100crawma 8 months ago
abolish the EU, let the lazy greeks sink or swim on their own,no more holding hands of the spoiled greek crybabies
100crawma 8 months ago
@100crawma with no debt there is no problem, the problem will be finding or a new way of govern or continue with democracy and learning with the mistakes...
i do not understand what can possibly hold back people besides PERSONAL INTERESTS.
how degrading does this world have to get when in a time of unprecedented crisis you get the Pope typing is first message on Twitter?
can you notice the total lack of responsibility and uncomprehending the positions they occupy?
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@Abaddon1594 who started the politics of global immigration?
what is wrong with these people....
yeah Portugal is full of multi-culture, look what has it done, people working under conditions with no contracts... below minimum-wages... any intelligent person KNOWS this had to be PLANNED, only an IDIOT blames ILLITERATE people for the TERRIBLE GOVERNANCE of INTELLIGENT and EDUCATED people.
PLEASE, Wake Up to Reality.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@zipcoonpiccaninnie get a fucking grip and while your at it, give your head a fuck off BIG wobble!
Mad4it2012 8 months ago
@pendarsam and i feel ashamed of being apart of this and even having a Portuguese president.
disgusting.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
How many of the rich elite in Greece will be giving some of the stash to help pay the debt?
The is the IMFs style, go in and rinse out all the public assets and privatise!
jimB0D0N 8 months ago
@pendarsam It's the truth like it or not.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
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11Acko11 8 months ago
The greeks are idiots. They've sucked the government dry through their unsustainable socialist freebie programs and now they're rioting because they can't live a life of luxury.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@MinmatarThrasher educate yourself please, we are all tired of idiots that solve their problems calling idiots to entire countries and using words like "sucking" to express themselves.
most probably you dont even care for you own family much less the others..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans I am educated on the issue. You can't dismiss facts and then demand people who present them to educate themself. You should take your own advice.
You simply cannot ignore facts and the truth.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@MinmatarThrasher you cannot simply ignore the greeks are spoiled on their entitlements,and like spoiled children are having a temper tantrum when daddy takes the candy away---- booo hoooo
100crawma 8 months ago
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@MinmatarThrasher once again you are correct
100crawma 8 months ago
@MinmatarThrasher and i dont, but i cant conceive how is the people responsible for the politicians degrading governance.
it simply is the biggest scam on history, the same goes for Portugal.
it's purely a new method of slavery.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans For taking the candy offered to them. If the Greek people declined the socialist programs that they've become so dependant on then Greece wouldn't be in the problem they are in today.
Socialism does not work. Plain and simple.
MinmatarThrasher 8 months ago
@MinmatarThrasher once again exactly correct, you should run greece
100crawma 8 months ago
@MinmatarThrasher im sorry but the way we live today is not intelligent. socialism right wing left wing communism fascism WHATEVER are NOT forms of governance, they are forms of CONTROL, in the greatest extent possible, water, land, oil, gas, money you name it.... grown people are more dependent then babies.
if i have an alternative? i dont, feel free to disagree, what im trying to say is that in the end people arent to blame by false agendas empty words and false promises in the name of few..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
just to give another evidence of this control obsession.
you had in swiss the biggest meeting of the richest people in the world and its not even on the news???
you people have eyes but do you see?
what do you think they were discussing??
lol was it sustainability? have a laugh.
was it unemployment? have another laugh.
was it poverty? laugh laugh laugh
was it to fight inequality? LOL!!
was it austerity measures to keep people controlled and ignorant to the greatest extent possible? YES.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
all about status quo, profit rates, control of the recourses and of people. how?
instead of invading every single country to maintain control they prevent its growth and even exploits them till the point that becomes impossible to pay the debts and then they come such a nice guys borrowing money in the thousands of millions.
thats control right there.
it will pass 50 years and the debts will still not be payed off.
you people are so ignorant that i get frightened.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
Earth...and water...
robertmcmc 8 months ago
time for the greeks to have my skinny greek wedding, they been fat enough, stolen all that money was given to them over the years when they have no economy to speak of, sleeping all afternoons, waiting for tourist to come and drop few dollars and shipping goods only economy is not going to cut it, time to work like everyone else in EU and retire later,free lunch is over get ready, but l think Grece still will defult and go bankrupt, an Kicked out of EU for good
mtakman 8 months ago
I see an Arab spring turning into a Mediterranean summer! MADNESS! ....Honestly, can somebody tell me were this 110 BILLION bail out is going to go?!?!...I mean is it going to the people of Greece?..No, its going to pay off the debts the governments have created over their periods of time spent in power!.The debt is being recalled all over the world. Every human being has heard the word AUSTERITY. This is not local to the Greeks, this is simultaneously happening everywhere. Welcome to the NWO
2010FuckUTube 8 months ago 8
i dint think the people of greece have come to terms with the fact greece is bankrupt. There is no alternatives
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@cheeckybutnice theres no alternatives for people like you that dont even understand the concept of freedom of choice.
since when does a group of rich donks like FMI knows whats best for poor people??
its like asking a blind man to drive a plain.
its insane.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans
thats the mistake u made.
Nothing is done for the best intrest of the poor and the people of greece needs to realise this.
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@cheeckybutnice so you are saying they have to live in misery..
i agree with you, im from portugal, i felt helpless watching parents sentencing their sons to a life of slavery.
but if we know they do nothing for the common good people, doesnt it become EVIDENT they have to step down?!
why do we forget so easily Gandhi or MLK? why do we forget so easily our very personal FREEDOM OF CHOICE?
correct me if im wrong..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans
freedom and democracy is just words in reality it does not exist. where was all the demonstrations around the world when we all had good times ? Where were the people fighting at how easy credit was.
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@cheeckybutnice true, i personally am against these hypocritical methods of rule..
people aren't to blame! go deeper, who decided to impose credit, legislate it, promote it world wide, my god was the people the cause of derivatives?
again i say, it takes an idiot to believe that an illiterate people is to blame for the terrible governance of intelligent and educated people. it does not make sense, doesn't it make more sense that this was planned??!
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans
same reason i do not vote, no matter who is in power they do not speak for the people.
I love hip hop and through revolutionary hip hop i have learnt so many things including gentfrication.
Notice that the only time wealthy people protest is when it comes to paying taxes
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@cheeckybutnice hahahh very true, but we will always need govern, just not like this.
i dont vote nor pay taxes, just the obligatory when you buy anything, but that is impossible to avoid.
believe it or not, real freedom only here on internet at least in the level of communication, i have already noticed the coincidence of a tool called internet that makes possible the communication with anyone in the world ;)
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans
no see thats the mistake u made.
The internet is not freedom , they allow us to think we have freedom cos of the internet.
Any goverment can turn the internet off and block sites just like what the egyption goveerment was doing.
The net is not freedom because depending on what u say , the goverment might try and trace u , the real reason thier after the wiki leaks guy
cheeckybutnice 8 months ago
@cheeckybutnice yes yes your right they are also trying to pull a law to block sites and survey it...
but i meant we can talk to anybody in the world and KNOW the conditions they live or to start a movement, the movement in Egypt would never happen without Internet hence they blocked hence a massive revolution, but America or any developed country does not have that option, because it wouldn't be just kids protesting, in developed countries almost everyone is dependent on Internet ..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
The protest has worked. Thanks everyone. Keep up the good work.
pentium2028 8 months ago
@pentium2028 Good work? Greeks don't work....unless you're referring to them not paying taxes.
bulmer13 8 months ago
@bulmer13 Are you stupid?You leaving across on the other side of the lake and u saryign that Greeks dont pay taxes?Correction it is the "rich" that do not pay and the poor that pay.Basicall,y the foriegn cooperations have not payed taxes for years (government is to blame ofc).Many people such as your self are brain washed you all think this is for the worst but it is you people that can't judge a situation without the media holding your hand to guide you.Dont listen to US media, all bullshitters
Gr33kElite 8 months ago
@Gr33kElite come on... US media? its all media that are full of shit...
our luck is the internet or else there would be no truth in this world and little is left...
greece just signed there own dead.
my country portugal has signed to.
how can parents do this to their children? how could they not see it?
all parents that approve this better believe they sentenced their sons to a life of slavery.
its insane.
MrPilotans 8 months ago
@MrPilotans The same for the environment we are destroying everything for our future generations to suffer the old politicians do not care becausde they will pass away before they see the worst of this world! Greediness!
Gr33kElite 8 months ago
@bulmer13 what is your knowledge to say that?? your a moronic idiot..
MrPilotans 8 months ago
This is such bullshit. Its time for a Revolution in Greece!
darrenritt27 8 months ago
@darrenritt27 The Greeks don't have the balls of steel to do such a thing and if it does happen it will be a minority that will take lead and responsibility for the downfall of this capitlist state!
Gr33kElite 8 months ago