Qutreshi is such a liar. Balochistan independence movement started in 1947, not in 1979. Balochis deserve freedom.
If others meddle in sovereign Pakistan, Pakis get upset. But Pakis have the right to talk about strategic depth in sovereign Afghanistan. What a joke.
@bombonpakistan You indians are vary of the setbacks this relationship could bring to Pakistan, We will certainly let our chinese brothers built bases all around Pakistan specially near the Durrand line,gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir to counter this soo-called peaceful Indian influence in afghanistan which in my view is completely bullshit and over exaggerated, There is absolutely no point of building more than 10 indian embassies near the durrand line bordering Pakistan
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for pak to accuse a clean standing country like india is shameful and pak is only harvesting what they have maliciously planted. althoughc u have created this circumstances by ur own hands, you are bad people and deserve the worse. now, the world knows your real face but you are just one more stubborn paki who refuses to accept your wrong doings.. che che che
pakistan is a failed state,it is the worlds biggest bum and terrorist supporter,it plays a dangerous double game that will someday backfire on itself,it blames others for its own problems,conspiracy theories mixed with islamism is what it survives on,the west should stop supporting them,let them fall to the taliban,then let their nukes decay and turn their lands into a radioactive wasteland,they deserve no pity as they give none to their minorities
@GrandmasterTigerfist man atleast get your facts right before spreading your HATE-PAKISTAN speeches! Your not only misleading yourselves, but also others who read your posts. What did Pak do for Afghanistan? Mere bache Pak provided shelter to more than a million afghan refugees who escaped their country during the soviet invasion. Their current generations happily reside here and proudly call themselves Pakistanis. AND we trained the taliban to fight off the Russians, thus give them freedom!
ye given shelter after making the crisis in that country yourself. Its an old strategy you create the problem then make people come after you for a solution, thru making them homeless and poor you use them for your benefit.
@GrandmasterTigerfist Haha and what benefit is that exactly? "ye given shelter after making the crisis in that country yourself" R you saying Pakistan caused the Cold War? Listen to this guy everybody. It was not in your or our hands in what happened back then. BUT we had the option of either closing out our borders, thus causing deaths of millions of Afghans back in their own country. OR we could let them into our country as Muslim brothers, and for the sake of humanity, we did the later :-).
Most Afghan fingers point on pakistan & USA go on and live in your pakistani deluded agendas. Where do i speak of cold war? pakistan and US used Afghan people for their own agendas.
@GrandmasterTigerfist Im not deluded janab, i speak facts here, i am not insecure about issues surrounding my cown country (UNLIKE INDIANS), therefore i DO recognise the wrongs our leadership has been doing, but you see, if your really study from an open mind, thats the benefit you get, which is: SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE PICTURE. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was not caused by Pakistan, if you believe otherwise, you are stupid. What we did was provide them shelter and help them beat the invaders!
You didnt recognise them before it was fully exposed, pakistanis mostly was in denial about these issues. I know Pakistan didnt cause Soviet invasion but the the taliban power in Afghan and its brutality on afghan people was supported by pakistan for their own national benefits.
@hameed007100 you fucking low life scum. you hate pakis because we make you clean our toilets. why do migrate to pakistan then? stay in your shithole you dirty afghan cunt you are causing a lot of trouble in our country. Afghanis should be kicked out from pakistan and the borders should be closed forever. You terrorists are behind every suicide attack in our country.
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Pakistan dont have power to stop the afghan refugees anyway which will most likely piss of the pashtuns and thats bad for the pakistani punjabi govt who is totally corrupt.
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@azizullah98 You actually think Indians care for Afghansiatn? No way dude. India is using Afghanistan, just like the rest of the world is using Afghanistan. good
@azizullah98 get the fuck out of Pakistan you do not belong in our country. Afghans are 100% terrorist and world's biggest drug producers. Don't worry each year more Assghani refugees are being deported each year. Soon we'll send you back.
@LordNadir1 Brother, this azizullah98 is not an Afghan. He is an Indian. He loves trolling Pakistani sites and posting comments. Beware of Indians pretending to be Afghans or Pakistanis and creating political, religious and sectarian misunderstandings.
people of pakistan have become so desperate knowing reality of there failling nation ,they need commentator like ahmed quraishi and zaid ahmed to keep there there morale by telling them fairy tales of pakistani glory and innocence ,
but this cant continue for long as world moves futher pakistan will fall in more darkness so much to handle these commentors...............
why dont you mind you re own busniss , you bloody smelly paki. you have created torrist for afghanistan for years. you and u re pakistan is a pupet, dog of the west.
@javed119 haha bloody smelly paki, lmaoooo, one thing is for sure, if you keep swearing like that, even Indians would be embarrased...or is that what you really do? stuff your mouth into everyone's butt and see if they smell or not. Dayem thats a hard job, poor you :-D
Survival of current Afghan administration, after the americans leave, depends on shaking hands with taiban,which they are trying to pursue with the help ofPakistan.
therefore, India does no have a chance to use Afghanistan's soil against the interest of Paksitan,because Afhanistan needs Pakistan for its survival.
Afghanistan is a land locked country, and the access is through Pakistan. India has to fly over Pakistan or take a much much longer route to enter Afghanistan, It iwll not practial in the longer run for india to keep their military presence in Afghanistan. Pakistan & Iran are friends sepcially after the gas pipeline contract, so India cannot use Iran against Paksitan.
terrorists have been killing thousands of innocent paksitanis left and right, almost every day they is some event. The killed pakistani polticians benaziir, they attacked musharraf who has been lucky.
One of those groups managed to sneaked out into inda, and killed 175 innocent people of india.
It is also possible that it may happen again. It is not fair to hold responsible the ones who are fighting them on a daily basis and defending against their attacks on a daily basis.
Even if you shared the evidence for argument sake no body considered it actionable. So they are made up by inheriting 1400 years of mindless thinking.
dont be so smart guys there are alots of pakistani people too who have been living in afghanistan for long time either thousands of refugees or pakistani talibans if we supose doc Najeeb was assanated by who? then we sall find the assanators of doc Najeeb from pakistan but lets Pakistan and Afghanistan forget the past start from present and build a best future togather
India should put its own house in order before building roads in Afghanistan
ref: why so many freedom struggles in India?
dont give whole credit to Pakistan for taliban it was a joint product of Saudis & Americans to fight Russians Pakistan was the only adjacent neighbour now suffering the consiquences. by the way Afghanistan was like that even before India & Pakistan. so dont loose your sleep over that I am sure they will sort themselves out without Indian Help
Hinduism divdes human being into castes and consider a large population of people to be untouchables and filthy Just because a pagan religion survived 4000yers does not mean it is on the right track. 1st consider those untouchables as equals then call muslims as ur brothers. By slaughtering muslims in gujrat & torturing them in India, destroying Babri mosque and violating the sanctity of Golden temple & then talk about brotherhood is a serious deception and we are well aware of it
You talk like US and Bush. He bombed civilians populations, killed millions of ppl and still doing it, invaded a sovereign country destroyed it and the only thing you hear from them is "it was a big mistake". What if we bomb US and its civilian population, and then say "it was a big mistake and we are sorry". YOu have killed thousands of muslims in gujrat, kashmir, raped women, destroyed Babri Mosque and golden temple and then say "we indians understand it" This is a big jock.
Its nothing compared to the millions killed during the Islamic invasions of India. Moreover, things are not as bad in India as you say, our muslim population here is happier than muslims in Pakistan living as the servants of Kerry and Lugar.
@ukbang2007 check the latest video of Jawant Singh, he has given a very nice explanation of how indian muslims are in india and how they feel. He talks about a possible second partition : )
@AjmallKasab People conveniently forget the well-documented genocide of 200,0003,000,000 Bangladeshis by the Pak army, most of them Hindus!!! But as you sow so shall you reap - we all know the results of 1971.
Karma always comes around. If Indians really did a systematic murders in the levels that Pakis did in Bangladesh, I believe the responsible people will face their judgment day
Golden Temple - destroyed?
Babri = symbol of looting on holy land - heh, will muslims retain a church in mecca?
HIndu ideology is based on hatred towards muslims and especially Pakistan. They consider Kaaba as their own and think that it has been forcefully taken by muslims. HIndu also have close ties with israel both millitary and through secret agencies. The only purpose of india to get close to saudi arabia or Afghanitan is to fulfill its eveil designs against muslims. With its huge population living under adverse poverty, india spending on AFghanistan is nothing but for very sinister purpose.
Al qaeda does not fuckign exist it is just some guys in a basement making videos and proper up the same shit of the same video taking 12 years ago of some fucking guys walking around a guy names osama bin laden that mutha fucker is dead. Taliban was just a government that ruled afghanistan. The terror in pakistan is funding by India eveyone knows this but you try put it out there int he media and youl be called a fanatic or a conspicracy theorist
what you got in the face of Shiv sena, bal thakrey and Moudy in India (people responsible for instigating voilence against muslims, Dalits & Christians. we have Taliban and sipah e sahaba in Pakistan.
this part of the word is radicalized no matter what religion.
wen people are burnt alive in their homes, Chrurches, mosques and whole communites are butchered for terrorist act on trains then emotions run high and more blood is shed until someone heeds a voice of reason & peace.
shiv sena is just a sorry political party with no supporters who can just give some goonish like threats. They are not a terrorist organization like the lashkar e toiba or the jamat ud dawa. I dont know why people in pak take the bal thakrey and joker like him so seriously? But yes, they do give hate speeches which instigates communal tension but thankfully they have now realised that they can garner votes by dividing people of india...
I just want to emphasize the point that dignifiedirt has made. People like Bal Thackeray and the Shiv Sena are regional political entities with very little support outside their core areas. And they are nowhere near as organized as the JeM, LeT or Al Qaeda that are trans-national and are hardcore terrorist outfits.
thanks for the clarification & hope you are right. but still incidents like burning the Pakistani Passengers of Samjhota express & the massacre of 2000 Muslims of Gujrat, bruning & killings of Christians suggests that there is more to what is known about the extremism in India
having said that I cant agree more with you about the ruthlessness & resourcefulness of Al Qaida
@cavegirl1985 thats not true cave, its infact pakistani muslims that dont like Hindus nor muslims of afghan. Dont forget Pakistan and US is responible for the situation in afghan cos they created taliban and wreaked this havoc...
"Actually Pakistan trained those fighters,but they were funded by USA/Saudi."
Agreed!!! but the radicalization started by Zia..
"You forgot to mention,if Pak didn't train those fighters they would be Russian by now"
Agreed again, but dont you think the situation would have still been a lot better than what it is at present? I mean atlest men wouldnt have had second thoughts on wheather to shave their beards or not? and women wouldnt necessarily go out in the burka?
Americans as I'm told are the masterminds behind creating the taliban...
and I said afghan would not be in the current state had "Russians" taken over. I didnt mean the taliban taking over...
"Maybe the state of those Refugees is no better than Afghanistan but they're a hell of alot safer"
Haha...you cant be serious right? Those refugees live in swat and the NWFP and peshawar and bombs go off almost everyday there and your army fought the taliban just recently there.
Afghans didn't want to live under Russian occupation...they asked for hepl!
Yes,i'm being serious....the Taliban in Pakistan are made up of Tajiks,Hazaras and Uzbeks-the enemies of Pashtuns...they're causing alot of Ethnic violence in Pakistan....you know yourself The Taliban in Pak are funded by India/Israel and America....
"Afghans didn't want to live under Russian occupation...they asked for hepl!"
Nobody wants to live under anybodies occupation but pak and the US did not help them because they were pro humanity or extremly sympethetic to poor afghanis. They helped afghanis to fight the russians so that russian does not become the next super power and pose a threat to the US. You see the whole crisis in the world in because of the US second comes Pak..
"the Taliban in Pakistan are made up of Tajiks,Hazaras and Uzbeks-the enemies of Pashtuns...they're causing alot of Ethnic violence in Pakistan"
On the one hand you say the afghan refugees are a "hell lot safe in pak" and now you say they are causing "alot of ethnic violence in pak"? So make up your mind wheather they are safe or not haha...
But arent the people that you say "betrayed you", your own people? I mean the people of NWFP who are mostly pastuns, live there for centuries? And dont you feel the fault lies somewhere down the common pakistanis as well. I'm not a pakistani but we in India do think that this whole crisis is because of radicalization started by the "Great Zia ul haq" lol
I'm not talking about People of NWFP,i'm talking about Afghans and plus the Mohajirs(Indian Immigrats) in Karachi are working with blackwater against Pakistan.....they've got alot more love for their own Country(India) but they don't mind living in Pakistan
Mr jinnah would certainly not be that happy with your views, if he was alive cos muhajirs were welcome in pak but the more sensible ones stayed in India I guess. They live in a pathetic condition in pak, I'm told? If you consider them Indians then why did people in your country kill millions of those who were your own people during partition? They certainly were pakistanis so why ask them to leave pak? What I summarize in your arguments is that the creation of pak has gone terribly wrong?
MQM has killed Punjabis,REAL Sindhis,Balochis and Pathans....i don't have a problem with Indian immigratns,but when i'm not allowed to go to certain places of my native Country i have alot of problems.
Jinnah wont be disappointed in you, just because you are speaking your mind. but he would be disappointed in people who are threatening and harrasing other people from going where they want
well, you should be happy that they are only not allowing you to go to their places. What if they start killing? These kind of things does not take place only in your country that you are sounding so depressed. These things happen in India also.
Try singing the qaumi tarana on the face of those people who say to you "khabardaar jo aap yahan dikheen". Lets see if that works :)
What if an Indian like me wants to visit pak? I'm sure I would be on the tandoor, if they know I'm Indian?
Maybe now you'd be unwelcome and unsafe because of the Indian Government's terrorism in Pak....if you'd went a couple of years back you wouldn't have had any problems :)
ahh...hmm...what can I say? but all I would say is that atlest you admit that there wasnt any terror a couple of years back in your country from India? But the terrorism in India from your side is for the past 60 years...And this is not us who are saying this but the americans, the EU, russians, israelies. But no one else says the same about India other than pak so I'm forced to beleive that what you are saying is naive. Wheres the proof my dear lady?
your answer to someone who was blaming the minorties for all the trouble the Pushtoons (mainly pro taliban) are facing now. during the reigh of taliban all minorties sufferer bitterly at their hands now tables are turned to some extent & they are blaming the past victims.
I also agree with your observation about radicalization of Pakistan (both Zia & Saudis)
dont forget its maninly Saudi oil money which is covertly and overtly used to build & fund wahabi madrasahs in pakistan that are the issue
yes I agree but what exactly is the govt in pak or atleast what the people in charge who beleive that they are the govt like the zardari's and gilani's, have to say to all of the things that are going on in pak? They dont even look sorry for acts of violence to their own people. All they do is come out and give a 50000 word sorry lecture on a terrorist attack and go home and sleep.
Its really a shame that you guys didnt have democracy ever in pakistan. I donno why such thing happens there?
agree to your comment re PPP govt f pakistan regarding terrorist acts where they give a scripted speach and then pose smiling on cameras.
Indian hindu fanatic organisations like RSS & shiv sina are more than capible than you are giving them credit. they laid in wait to attack while the news about the train arson was "spread" & within hundreds of Muslims lost their lives aling with their properties in the end thousands of muslims were slain by these fanatics.
just because there is more world wide media coverage of terrorists with muslim outfit & also due to short term memory of people it doesnt mean that there are no other ethnic or other religious fanatic organisations that are capible of doing even more than what alqaida or lashkar e toiba have managed.
I was talking about the shiv sena and I dont know if rss is that dangerous but their sister org called the bajrang dal certainly is. But these organizations do not possess ak 47 and send suicide bombers to kill people on a daily basis. Moreover the lashkar and jamat are banned by the UN not by us and these fringe groups in India that you talk about are not even classified as terror groups be any standards.
Tho I condemn wht happned in gujrat but if the same thing had done by non muslims in islamic nations, I'm sure the non muslims would have be skinned alive...Look at the state of non muslims in islamic nations. Its worst than animals to say the least...
I agree dat the islamic terror is doing the rounds in the media all over da world but a death is a death. If an israeli kills innocent arabs its no sensation cos they do it covertly but when a muslim sends suicide bomber its big news cos suicide bombings creates sensationalism...
You know its intrsting dat suicide bombings were actually invented by hindus. LTTE are hindus nd they started this trend. I'm tamil hindu myself nd know hw it would feel for a common muslim 2 be calld a terrorist.
i agree, a crime against humanity no matter how small or big and whoever does it should be condmened, whether its done by an illitrate fanatic with a wild beard or a clean shaven sun glasses wearing solider of a country which enjoys unqualified support from the west no matter what it does to people under its occupation in the name of self defence (i hope you know who I mean)
i always condemn the people who terrorise the normal people getting on with their daily lives.
taliban and Al qaida always quote Quranic verses to support their sick ideology but only to an extect and without context where it suits them. its the same Quran which says that killing one human is like killing a generation. one innocent life is as dear as thousands.
i pray for everyones safety regardless of country and religion.
yes muslim countries have also bad track record with minorites (muslim sects like shia and other nonmuslims)
I was about to say that for the al qaida and taliban who spread terror in the name of allah thats why others think that theres something wrong with islam. I dont blame them either cos its a natural reaction cos killing just because someone is a non muslim is absurd but then more and more ppl like you should come forward and explain that this is not what islam teaches and the al qaida and group is just demfaming islam. I think they use islam to infulence common muslims to work as their pawn...
our voice is ignored. talking peace & reconciliation is not good for media. it has to be sensational, shocking and controversial
media can sell more stories by showing shocking footage of taliban and their leaders threatening everyone to kill rather than a respecting & peaceful practicing muslim who talks about love & respect.
You see, I donno what exactly is al qaida's agenda but I think they want to spred islam throught the world through muscle? cant understand what they would acheive by carrying out terror? I'm sure the americans wont surrender to them would they? Organizations like the hamas on the other hand do have a genuine cause because palestine is being occupied. Tho firing rockets to israel would only make things worse for poor palestines. Might has unfortunately always been the right...
al qaida/ taliban are manily a group of people called kharjis (deserters) who term all other muslims as nonmuslims & treat them the same as they would any Jew or Christian etc.
they think their faith ONLY is the right one & anyone foolish enough to even disagree in the slightest should be punished by death. hence they kill civilians saying that they pay taxes to goverments who al qaida is opposed to. its a waste of time to even try to reason with them by their defination worlds 99.99% population deserves to be killed at their hands
media/ attention sell value was the word I was looking for. media likes omeone causing a shock or controversy. I have just stopped trying to defend & explain islam because such opinions are mostly unheard or forgotten. every religion had its time in past look at Christiaity bloody history look what Arians did to Budhists but news didnt travel that fast with all the graphic details, its islam tern now with all the media & technology things look far more worse than mere stories in the past
"Just watch the video you're commenting on to find out what India is doing in Pak and Afghanistan."
Well, I dont take the word of an over exited journalist who wants to make it big on pak tv...you mean to say people would believe what this rookie has 2 say about India? lol
Hes not in FBI is he?
"What's my ID or me living in a cave got to do with this subject "
Nothing, I just found that unique. Are you in a bad mood or what?
Yes I'm a hindu but not very religions unlike some of you msulims and "who are our people"? What exactly are you trying to suggest?
and why do you guys always inevitably bring religion in almost everthing? be it eating, walking, cooking, bycycling, sleeping, even while making love perhaps?
"I know Afghan's don't like Pak,but always remember Hindus and Jews are the enemies of both Pak and Afghansitan"
And yet you say I bring religion into this haha...
And yes I do beleive that most of pakistanis hate Indians specially hindus for which I dont have any problems cos I dont expect love from a land filled with radicals and extremists who kill fellow muslims and acheive nothing at the end of the day...
Hindus do not hate Afghanistan. The only ones interested in subjugating Afghanistan are the Pakistanis who want to prop up forces like the Taliban and ruin the lives of the Afghans in order to create their so-called "strategic depth" against India.
cont....Even if we have to butt fuck their soliders in afgh. we should do it. let them cry in UN. As far as india is concern it is very easy to control them we stop their overflights to Afgh. but for this we need a dignified leadership in Pak. Indian ideology is based on hatred towards muslims, they are not in afgh for building afgh but to spy on and create problems in Pak. That is the sole purpose of this 3" dick little kafir satan.
Both india and US are terrorists countries. US terrorism is global while india's terrorism is local. India was supporting the tamils in srilanka for many years and those poor guys had to fight their way out. Until the big satan(US) is in afgh there is not going to be any peace. Pak should support talibans in afgh and kick these terrorists out by hook or by crook. Rememeber US has never played a fair game in war. They have bombed civilians, used white phosphorus in afg and iran. cont.....
dont think about media, Americans know indians are creating terrorism via Afghanistan into Pakistan and they are encouraging their baby, we dont need to convince Americans we need to respond and respond now, good job by young man
as he mentioned, the indirect evidence is there. For starters, Manmohan Singh's acceptance of putting Baloch insurgency on the agenda between pak and India in Sharm al Sheikh is one way of "accepting" that role. He made very reasonable points
I wish he had mentioned though that unlike India Pakistan is fighting that same war on its own soil, when you mention India's constructive activities, u cannot expect us to parallel those in Kabul, we've enough of that happening on our own soil. On top of that, providing security and route for NATO supplies is a huge job in itself that pak. is providing for the stability in Afgh not to mention mediating the talks between taliban and usa which seem to ve adopted quite a momentum these days.
OK but that means nothing when Musharraf allied with the US to defeat the same government Pakistan helped establish. Its almost worse to help and betray than to have never helped at all. Pakistan provides logistical support CRITICAL to America's success in Afghanistan. Even without it the Taliban have won but it has cost them dearly.
Its easy to sit on computer and talk big! But let me tell you what the reality is! America threatened Musharraf that they will "bomb us back to the stone age" if we didn't help them! And also don't forget this quote :"your either with us or against us"! So basically we had no choice! But however i do admit we made a lot of mistakes in this process, Musharraf did use this war for his own gains and he didn't take time to explain to the world the difference between Taliban and al qaida terrorists!
America did not officially threaten to bomb Pakistan (Armitage personally did) even though it would have been likely. The truth is Musharraf bitched out and made Pakistani's look like little pussies. If only he had the balls that Ahmadinejad does he would have stood up to them and told them to fuck off. He should have told them EXACTLY what would get nuked if Pakistan were attacked like Iran did, and they don't even have nukes or a strong military! Now suicide bombings are a daily occurrence.
Ahmed Quraishi kitna bada chutiya hai???
angMohit 1 day ago
terrorist group died with the death of soviet union.......i think he is talking about osama bin laden's group.
therajoou 1 week ago
ahmad qureshi looks like a gay..
rsangwan04 1 week ago
what is this accent called?
krishnabhakt1 2 weeks ago
@krishnabhakt1 paki-gay accent... :P
23rdprime 1 week ago
fuck this guy ur country is fucked
mrimase1 1 month ago
fake accented paki gay
dangernp 2 months ago
Qutreshi is such a liar. Balochistan independence movement started in 1947, not in 1979. Balochis deserve freedom.
If others meddle in sovereign Pakistan, Pakis get upset. But Pakis have the right to talk about strategic depth in sovereign Afghanistan. What a joke.
Starnebula100 3 months ago 3
@bombonpakistan You indians are vary of the setbacks this relationship could bring to Pakistan, We will certainly let our chinese brothers built bases all around Pakistan specially near the Durrand line,gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir to counter this soo-called peaceful Indian influence in afghanistan which in my view is completely bullshit and over exaggerated, There is absolutely no point of building more than 10 indian embassies near the durrand line bordering Pakistan
Undisputed13011 3 months ago
Ahmed Quraishi is a Idiot..
Fake english accent ..
dumb knowledge..
satishynd 4 months ago
@satishynd
How can you say this when your own English is terrible?
Its "an idiot" not "a idiot"...
wildinstatic 3 months ago
@wildinstatic :p great !
Me being pathetic in my english makes the above guy a genius ? lol
one wrong does not make other wrong right ...
satishynd 3 months ago
@satishynd
There's a phrase "Before you look at the splinter in your neighbor's eye, take out the log in your own eye"..
This says it all, nothing personal..... Peace
wildinstatic 3 months ago
@wildinstatic irrespective of phrase you have quoted.. one must point out wrong if he sees one, if he wishes to..... :)
although u are right in your saying, I am (i think) right too..
and yes :) nothing personal .. Peace
satishynd 3 months ago
awaaz azaan azaad awaa awaar saa laam awaa o'com saallah saa laam,the first three letter's in the QURAN MAJEED READ WELL MEANING ALIF LAAM MEAM. ALIF <<MEANING SACRIFICE FIDAH AND QURBAAN, LAAM <<MEANING ONE ALONE, MEAM <<< MEANING IS ARMEAN , MANZURE, EXCEPT LOVE ARK KEY AFSUSE OF JE << LIFE OF ASUSE << TEAR'S
wingully 4 months ago
LOOKING FOR THE ONE ARK DIMOND TEAR EYE<<< ARK ARKOLOGICAL INDIA FEAR THE BOOK LIKE THE HINDU AND JEW AS THE LAW OF BOOK OF LOVE ASAAS AZAAD AZAAN LAAM AWAA LAY O'KUME SAA LAAM, INDIA IS NOT BUILDING AFGANISTAN AS IT MAKE'S ROAD'S LIKE THE ROMAN'S SONIA GANDY BUT ALL SO HOPING TO FIND BY DIGIN THE GOLDEN CASE WITH TWO ANGEL'S ON SIDE IN SIDE A LARGE DIMOND TEAR WITH A BOOK CASED WITH GOLD TO GET DIGNITY AND SIT AS GOD OF EARTH BY CHANGE OF THE FIRST BOOK ALLAH MIGHTY KINGDOM
wingully 4 months ago
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THE ART OF THE ARK THE EYE DIMOND TEAR TO TURN THE WORLD AROUND FROM THE THE POINT OF MID OF EARTH AS THE SUN AND THE MOON FACE EACH OTHER WITH THE EARTH IN THE MID AND THE DIMOND TEAR WHO WILL SIT IN THE SITUASIAN OR ASIAN LAND'S AS MOGHUL OF THE WORLD BY CHANGE OF HIGH PREAST QURAN MAJEED OF ESAALAAM
wingully 4 months ago
SAALAAM
wingully 4 months ago
AWAA LAY O'KUME SAA LAAM AWAA LAY O'KUME SAALLAH
wingully 4 months ago
KASHMIR HAS ALL SO SOLIMAN TEMPLE JUST LIKE PALISTINE HAS THE ARK SAA MAJEED OR ARK SAA MASJID BUILD OVER THE SOLIMAN TEMPLE
wingully 4 months ago
SO YOU CAN CHANGE LIKE A SNAKE HIS HIS HIS HIS TORA OR HISTORY OF THE TRUE BOOK OF LAW'S OF LOVE OR IN OLD LANGUAGE ASAAS LAAM AWAA LAY O'KUME SAALLAH, O'KUME IS RACE AND ODER
wingully 4 months ago
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THE MARKING ON THE HEAD OF THE GOLD ANGEL IS NOT OF HINDU MARKING BUT OF THE ARK ON THE HEAD OF A DIMOND , ARK IS A EYE OF A TEAR DIMOND, LIKE YOU AND OTHER'S FROM TIME LOOKING FOR THE ARK THE LARGE DIMOND EYE TEAR THE CASE YOUR LOOKING FOR WITH THE BOOK OF LAW'S AND THE CASE WITH TWO ANGEL'S FROM THE SOLIMAN TEMPLE THAT CAME FROM THE PIRAMID THE RAM PHERO , ARK SAA MAJEED OR ARK SAA MASJID ARK KEY FITS THE CASE
wingully 4 months ago
LOOKING FOR THE ONE ARK DIMOND TEAR EYE<<< ARK ARKOLOGICAL
wingully 4 months ago
yes we Indians are doing every thing, what the fuck you can do... bark bark bark
spylucky07 4 months ago
for pak to accuse a clean standing country like india is shameful and pak is only harvesting what they have maliciously planted. althoughc u have created this circumstances by ur own hands, you are bad people and deserve the worse. now, the world knows your real face but you are just one more stubborn paki who refuses to accept your wrong doings.. che che che
ashrafpopal1 4 months ago
fuck pakistan
saurabhzutshi 4 months ago
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Nothing new about Pakistan's support of Taliban and Islamic Terrorists in the region to destabalize Afghanistan.
Pakistan want to make Afghanistan again into a safe haven for Taliban and Islamic Terrorists so that they can control that country.
htgajjar 5 months ago
pakistan is a failed state,it is the worlds biggest bum and terrorist supporter,it plays a dangerous double game that will someday backfire on itself,it blames others for its own problems,conspiracy theories mixed with islamism is what it survives on,the west should stop supporting them,let them fall to the taliban,then let their nukes decay and turn their lands into a radioactive wasteland,they deserve no pity as they give none to their minorities
DuckingNDiving 5 months ago
all the world know pakistanis are biggest liers in the world
MrCoolgaurav 5 months ago
pakistan dosent want to see Afganistan devloped
MrCoolgaurav 5 months ago
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"Good question, 1- Jews are killer of prophets (God messengers like Lord Krishna, Buddha, Rama, Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh, etc.).
2- They terrorised the whole world (all wars of Europe, WW 1 and WW 2 and now WW 3).
3- They are making the whole world slave by means of usury system.
Check Zaid zaman vedios on youtube on Economics Terrorism. and google all documents "" why we hate Jews"". End of Israel is very near Insha Allah."
moinoshin 7 months ago
@GrandmasterTigerfist man atleast get your facts right before spreading your HATE-PAKISTAN speeches! Your not only misleading yourselves, but also others who read your posts. What did Pak do for Afghanistan? Mere bache Pak provided shelter to more than a million afghan refugees who escaped their country during the soviet invasion. Their current generations happily reside here and proudly call themselves Pakistanis. AND we trained the taliban to fight off the Russians, thus give them freedom!
silversilk15 7 months ago
@silversilk15
ye given shelter after making the crisis in that country yourself. Its an old strategy you create the problem then make people come after you for a solution, thru making them homeless and poor you use them for your benefit.
GrandmasterTigerfist 7 months ago
@GrandmasterTigerfist Haha and what benefit is that exactly? "ye given shelter after making the crisis in that country yourself" R you saying Pakistan caused the Cold War? Listen to this guy everybody. It was not in your or our hands in what happened back then. BUT we had the option of either closing out our borders, thus causing deaths of millions of Afghans back in their own country. OR we could let them into our country as Muslim brothers, and for the sake of humanity, we did the later :-).
silversilk15 7 months ago
@silversilk15
Most Afghan fingers point on pakistan & USA go on and live in your pakistani deluded agendas. Where do i speak of cold war? pakistan and US used Afghan people for their own agendas.
GrandmasterTigerfist 7 months ago
@GrandmasterTigerfist Im not deluded janab, i speak facts here, i am not insecure about issues surrounding my cown country (UNLIKE INDIANS), therefore i DO recognise the wrongs our leadership has been doing, but you see, if your really study from an open mind, thats the benefit you get, which is: SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE PICTURE. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was not caused by Pakistan, if you believe otherwise, you are stupid. What we did was provide them shelter and help them beat the invaders!
silversilk15 7 months ago
@silversilk15
You didnt recognise them before it was fully exposed, pakistanis mostly was in denial about these issues. I know Pakistan didnt cause Soviet invasion but the the taliban power in Afghan and its brutality on afghan people was supported by pakistan for their own national benefits.
GrandmasterTigerfist 7 months ago
@hameed007100 you fucking low life scum. you hate pakis because we make you clean our toilets. why do migrate to pakistan then? stay in your shithole you dirty afghan cunt you are causing a lot of trouble in our country. Afghanis should be kicked out from pakistan and the borders should be closed forever. You terrorists are behind every suicide attack in our country.
Uzair2gud4u 8 months ago
@Uzair2gud4u he is not afghani he is smelly Indian slum-dog...!
shamiking1 7 months ago
@Uzair2gud4u ha ha yo porkies believe me that you r greatest mother fucker ,,,,,,,, every baloch, punjabi, sindhi,patthan kills each others , and dont make bad word for afgani.. you all begger porkistanior porniestani gatting aid just because of us,,,,,, go and suck obamas dick to get aid......
hameed007100 7 months ago
WoW very good discussion.....
PIss off terrorist hindus let us live peace fully...
Waqas0904 9 months ago
who is this stupid qureshi? do he really speak english like an average pakistani??
why wrong with his accent??
nadsarlafoods 9 months ago
INDIA is not dumb enough to sell itself into trouble by partnering with the USA...
at least yet...
Pakistan can only help itself if it stays safe from the USA.
saveurtiger 1 year ago
@GrandmasterTigerfist sucker afghanistan is land lock country and most of them are here and they feed form here
salimkhan007 1 year ago
@salimkhan007
Pakistan dont have power to stop the afghan refugees anyway which will most likely piss of the pashtuns and thats bad for the pakistani punjabi govt who is totally corrupt.
GrandmasterTigerfist 1 year ago
At 1:37 to 1:52 Ahmed Kureshi says "SUDDENLY" they got rebirth!
Ammhuh!!!!
Is it?
Didnt pakis feed them to fight against Kashmir issue?
jsgorana 1 year ago
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TheTheXeRoX007 1 year ago
AFGANISTAN IS A FREE AND SOVERGIN COUNTRY ITS UP TO AFGAN TO DECIDE
THEY WANT RELATION WITH INDIA OR NOT.
visi365 1 year ago 21
@visi365 LOL @ Afghanistan is free LOL LMFAO,, you have cracked it up... what a joker with zero IRK
MrBillyLaw 5 days ago
PAKISANI and AFGHANIS are ONE. Get the FUCK out INDIANS. America and India are gona get beaten out just as before...
ALLAH o AKBAR
omerjamilahmad1 1 year ago
This guy always hits the bulls-eye! AQ, dude you are the MAN!!!
rwpla 1 year ago
@azizullah98 You actually think Indians care for Afghansiatn? No way dude. India is using Afghanistan, just like the rest of the world is using Afghanistan. good
QueenOfTheOceans 1 year ago
@azizullah98 get the fuck out of Pakistan you do not belong in our country. Afghans are 100% terrorist and world's biggest drug producers. Don't worry each year more Assghani refugees are being deported each year. Soon we'll send you back.
LordNadir1 1 year ago
@LordNadir1 Brother, this azizullah98 is not an Afghan. He is an Indian. He loves trolling Pakistani sites and posting comments. Beware of Indians pretending to be Afghans or Pakistanis and creating political, religious and sectarian misunderstandings.
paknationalists 1 year ago
people of pakistan have become so desperate knowing reality of there failling nation ,they need commentator like ahmed quraishi and zaid ahmed to keep there there morale by telling them fairy tales of pakistani glory and innocence ,
but this cant continue for long as world moves futher pakistan will fall in more darkness so much to handle these commentors...............
rohitshaikh 1 year ago
why dont you mind you re own busniss , you bloody smelly paki. you have created torrist for afghanistan for years. you and u re pakistan is a pupet, dog of the west.
javed119 1 year ago
@javed119 haha bloody smelly paki, lmaoooo, one thing is for sure, if you keep swearing like that, even Indians would be embarrased...or is that what you really do? stuff your mouth into everyone's butt and see if they smell or not. Dayem thats a hard job, poor you :-D
silversilk15 7 months ago
@borneooooo HaHa, LOL, ROFL, LMAO didnt realise my comment can get to some1 so bad!!!!
sufzyyyy 1 year ago
Great Mr. Quraishi. You're the Pride of Young Pakistani's Hearts.
FasihKhan1 1 year ago
long life india,,,,love afghans
sadiqnasiry 1 year ago
thank you Mr Ahmed Quraishi for telling the truth
iatajik 1 year ago
Survival of current Afghan administration, after the americans leave, depends on shaking hands with taiban,which they are trying to pursue with the help ofPakistan.
therefore, India does no have a chance to use Afghanistan's soil against the interest of Paksitan,because Afhanistan needs Pakistan for its survival.
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alfatourist 1 year ago
Afghanistan is a land locked country, and the access is through Pakistan. India has to fly over Pakistan or take a much much longer route to enter Afghanistan, It iwll not practial in the longer run for india to keep their military presence in Afghanistan. Pakistan & Iran are friends sepcially after the gas pipeline contract, so India cannot use Iran against Paksitan.
alfatourist 1 year ago
terrorists have been killing thousands of innocent paksitanis left and right, almost every day they is some event. The killed pakistani polticians benaziir, they attacked musharraf who has been lucky.
One of those groups managed to sneaked out into inda, and killed 175 innocent people of india.
It is also possible that it may happen again. It is not fair to hold responsible the ones who are fighting them on a daily basis and defending against their attacks on a daily basis.
alfatourist 1 year ago
India knows Pakistan and India have fought wars and are arch enemies historically, and they know the Kashmire issue is still the bone of contention.
With Kashmir as bone of contention, how can India expect Pakistan to not be concerned over Indian presence on the western border?
They fully understand Pakistan's concern. They are only being opportunistic
Indian intelligence exists inside Afghanistan.
Indian's are hoping to be the ones to fill the vacuum afer the Americans leave..
alfatourist 1 year ago
pakistan is nothing. india and something , india can whip begistan easy.
y4m5m5 1 year ago
ahmed wat the fuk r u doing in china
if u fuk wid india
we ll fuk ur anus
archiesingh007 1 year ago
Even if you shared the evidence for argument sake no body considered it actionable. So they are made up by inheriting 1400 years of mindless thinking.
johnangelo2000 1 year ago
dont be so smart guys there are alots of pakistani people too who have been living in afghanistan for long time either thousands of refugees or pakistani talibans if we supose doc Najeeb was assanated by who? then we sall find the assanators of doc Najeeb from pakistan but lets Pakistan and Afghanistan forget the past start from present and build a best future togather
khalid799713636 1 year ago
Wtf is this joker saying!! :D he says " we dont have any problem if india is doing good in afghan" as if purey afghanistan kaa baap ho. :D
toxicsmit 1 year ago
@ukbang2007
India should put its own house in order before building roads in Afghanistan
ref: why so many freedom struggles in India?
dont give whole credit to Pakistan for taliban it was a joint product of Saudis & Americans to fight Russians Pakistan was the only adjacent neighbour now suffering the consiquences. by the way Afghanistan was like that even before India & Pakistan. so dont loose your sleep over that I am sure they will sort themselves out without Indian Help
Mirpurmad 1 year ago
@ukbang2007
Hinduism divdes human being into castes and consider a large population of people to be untouchables and filthy Just because a pagan religion survived 4000yers does not mean it is on the right track. 1st consider those untouchables as equals then call muslims as ur brothers. By slaughtering muslims in gujrat & torturing them in India, destroying Babri mosque and violating the sanctity of Golden temple & then talk about brotherhood is a serious deception and we are well aware of it
AjmallKasab 1 year ago
@AjmallKasab
All those things you mentioned are things that even hindus
acknowledge to be mistakes and they are being corrected. The state of minorities is
not as bad in India as in Pakistan. All of
Pakistan's minorities including Hindus, Christians
and Sikhs are leaving to the extent that only
2.5 % of Pakistanis are now non Muslim.
ukbang2007 1 year ago
@ukbang2007
You talk like US and Bush. He bombed civilians populations, killed millions of ppl and still doing it, invaded a sovereign country destroyed it and the only thing you hear from them is "it was a big mistake". What if we bomb US and its civilian population, and then say "it was a big mistake and we are sorry". YOu have killed thousands of muslims in gujrat, kashmir, raped women, destroyed Babri Mosque and golden temple and then say "we indians understand it" This is a big jock.
AjmallKasab 1 year ago
@AjmallKasab
Its nothing compared to the millions killed during the Islamic invasions of India. Moreover, things are not as bad in India as you say, our muslim population here is happier than muslims in Pakistan living as the servants of Kerry and Lugar.
ukbang2007 1 year ago
@ukbang2007 check the latest video of Jawant Singh, he has given a very nice explanation of how indian muslims are in india and how they feel. He talks about a possible second partition : )
AjmallKasab 1 year ago
@AjmallKasab People conveniently forget the well-documented genocide of 200,0003,000,000 Bangladeshis by the Pak army, most of them Hindus!!! But as you sow so shall you reap - we all know the results of 1971.
Karma always comes around. If Indians really did a systematic murders in the levels that Pakis did in Bangladesh, I believe the responsible people will face their judgment day
Golden Temple - destroyed?
Babri = symbol of looting on holy land - heh, will muslims retain a church in mecca?
iamsri 1 year ago
HIndu ideology is based on hatred towards muslims and especially Pakistan. They consider Kaaba as their own and think that it has been forcefully taken by muslims. HIndu also have close ties with israel both millitary and through secret agencies. The only purpose of india to get close to saudi arabia or Afghanitan is to fulfill its eveil designs against muslims. With its huge population living under adverse poverty, india spending on AFghanistan is nothing but for very sinister purpose.
AjmallKasab 1 year ago
@AjmallKasab
Hinduism has been around in one form
or the other for over 4000 years. It is Islam that
is based on dominance, subjugation and violence to achieve its goal of hegemony over the whole world.
Pakistanis should realize the long term damage that their
government is doing to their country and the region
by backing groups like the Taliban and Al
Qaeda. Afghans and Indians are brothers;
we will help them no matter what.
ukbang2007 1 year ago
Al qaeda does not fuckign exist it is just some guys in a basement making videos and proper up the same shit of the same video taking 12 years ago of some fucking guys walking around a guy names osama bin laden that mutha fucker is dead. Taliban was just a government that ruled afghanistan. The terror in pakistan is funding by India eveyone knows this but you try put it out there int he media and youl be called a fanatic or a conspicracy theorist
muds4u 2 years ago
what you got in the face of Shiv sena, bal thakrey and Moudy in India (people responsible for instigating voilence against muslims, Dalits & Christians. we have Taliban and sipah e sahaba in Pakistan.
this part of the word is radicalized no matter what religion.
wen people are burnt alive in their homes, Chrurches, mosques and whole communites are butchered for terrorist act on trains then emotions run high and more blood is shed until someone heeds a voice of reason & peace.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
shiv sena is just a sorry political party with no supporters who can just give some goonish like threats. They are not a terrorist organization like the lashkar e toiba or the jamat ud dawa. I dont know why people in pak take the bal thakrey and joker like him so seriously? But yes, they do give hate speeches which instigates communal tension but thankfully they have now realised that they can garner votes by dividing people of india...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
@Mirpurmad
I just want to emphasize the point that dignifiedirt has made. People like Bal Thackeray and the Shiv Sena are regional political entities with very little support outside their core areas. And they are nowhere near as organized as the JeM, LeT or Al Qaeda that are trans-national and are hardcore terrorist outfits.
ukbang2007 1 year ago
@ukbang2007
thanks for the clarification & hope you are right. but still incidents like burning the Pakistani Passengers of Samjhota express & the massacre of 2000 Muslims of Gujrat, bruning & killings of Christians suggests that there is more to what is known about the extremism in India
having said that I cant agree more with you about the ruthlessness & resourcefulness of Al Qaida
Mirpurmad 1 year ago
I know Afghan's don't like Pak,but always remember Hindus and Jews are the enemies of both Pak and Afghansitan.
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
@cavegirl1985 thats not true cave, its infact pakistani muslims that dont like Hindus nor muslims of afghan. Dont forget Pakistan and US is responible for the situation in afghan cos they created taliban and wreaked this havoc...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Actually Pakistan trained those fighters,but they were funded by USA/Saudi.
You forgot to mention,if Pak didn't train those fighters they would be Russian by now......Pakistan took in 2 Million Afghan refugees too.
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
By 'they' i meant Afghanistan would be Russia by now....
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
"Actually Pakistan trained those fighters,but they were funded by USA/Saudi."
Agreed!!! but the radicalization started by Zia..
"You forgot to mention,if Pak didn't train those fighters they would be Russian by now"
Agreed again, but dont you think the situation would have still been a lot better than what it is at present? I mean atlest men wouldnt have had second thoughts on wheather to shave their beards or not? and women wouldnt necessarily go out in the burka?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Dude,i hate the Taliban.
The world want's to blame Pakistan but America and Saudi played a much bigger part in the rise of The Taliban.
I sympathize with innocent Afghanis too...i think Afghanistan would be a mess even without the taliban because of the Ethnic violence....don't you?
Were Afghanis forced into killing each other? They made their own choices...you should learn more about their culture...
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Americans as I'm told are the masterminds behind creating the taliban...
and I said afghan would not be in the current state had "Russians" taken over. I didnt mean the taliban taking over...
"Maybe the state of those Refugees is no better than Afghanistan but they're a hell of alot safer"
Haha...you cant be serious right? Those refugees live in swat and the NWFP and peshawar and bombs go off almost everyday there and your army fought the taliban just recently there.
continued.
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Afghans didn't want to live under Russian occupation...they asked for hepl!
Yes,i'm being serious....the Taliban in Pakistan are made up of Tajiks,Hazaras and Uzbeks-the enemies of Pashtuns...they're causing alot of Ethnic violence in Pakistan....you know yourself The Taliban in Pak are funded by India/Israel and America....
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
"Afghans didn't want to live under Russian occupation...they asked for hepl!"
Nobody wants to live under anybodies occupation but pak and the US did not help them because they were pro humanity or extremly sympethetic to poor afghanis. They helped afghanis to fight the russians so that russian does not become the next super power and pose a threat to the US. You see the whole crisis in the world in because of the US second comes Pak..
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
There would have always been violence in Afghanistan because of tensions between the Ethinc Groups! Do some research!
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
"the Taliban in Pakistan are made up of Tajiks,Hazaras and Uzbeks-the enemies of Pashtuns...they're causing alot of Ethnic violence in Pakistan"
On the one hand you say the afghan refugees are a "hell lot safe in pak" and now you say they are causing "alot of ethnic violence in pak"? So make up your mind wheather they are safe or not haha...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
It make's me sad that the People of Pakistan beieve in "Muslim Brotherhood".
Most Muslims have betrayed us.....if it was my choice they would all be sent back to Afghanistan!
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
But arent the people that you say "betrayed you", your own people? I mean the people of NWFP who are mostly pastuns, live there for centuries? And dont you feel the fault lies somewhere down the common pakistanis as well. I'm not a pakistani but we in India do think that this whole crisis is because of radicalization started by the "Great Zia ul haq" lol
bye...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
I'm not talking about People of NWFP,i'm talking about Afghans and plus the Mohajirs(Indian Immigrats) in Karachi are working with blackwater against Pakistan.....they've got alot more love for their own Country(India) but they don't mind living in Pakistan
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Mr jinnah would certainly not be that happy with your views, if he was alive cos muhajirs were welcome in pak but the more sensible ones stayed in India I guess. They live in a pathetic condition in pak, I'm told? If you consider them Indians then why did people in your country kill millions of those who were your own people during partition? They certainly were pakistanis so why ask them to leave pak? What I summarize in your arguments is that the creation of pak has gone terribly wrong?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Maybe Jinnah would be dissapointed in me.
MQM has killed Punjabis,REAL Sindhis,Balochis and Pathans....i don't have a problem with Indian immigratns,but when i'm not allowed to go to certain places of my native Country i have alot of problems.
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Jinnah wont be disappointed in you, just because you are speaking your mind. but he would be disappointed in people who are threatening and harrasing other people from going where they want
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
well, you should be happy that they are only not allowing you to go to their places. What if they start killing? These kind of things does not take place only in your country that you are sounding so depressed. These things happen in India also.
Try singing the qaumi tarana on the face of those people who say to you "khabardaar jo aap yahan dikheen". Lets see if that works :)
What if an Indian like me wants to visit pak? I'm sure I would be on the tandoor, if they know I'm Indian?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Maybe now you'd be unwelcome and unsafe because of the Indian Government's terrorism in Pak....if you'd went a couple of years back you wouldn't have had any problems :)
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
ahh...hmm...what can I say? but all I would say is that atlest you admit that there wasnt any terror a couple of years back in your country from India? But the terrorism in India from your side is for the past 60 years...And this is not us who are saying this but the americans, the EU, russians, israelies. But no one else says the same about India other than pak so I'm forced to beleive that what you are saying is naive. Wheres the proof my dear lady?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
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dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
lol good observation.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
about what friend?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
your answer to someone who was blaming the minorties for all the trouble the Pushtoons (mainly pro taliban) are facing now. during the reigh of taliban all minorties sufferer bitterly at their hands now tables are turned to some extent & they are blaming the past victims.
I also agree with your observation about radicalization of Pakistan (both Zia & Saudis)
dont forget its maninly Saudi oil money which is covertly and overtly used to build & fund wahabi madrasahs in pakistan that are the issue
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
yes I agree but what exactly is the govt in pak or atleast what the people in charge who beleive that they are the govt like the zardari's and gilani's, have to say to all of the things that are going on in pak? They dont even look sorry for acts of violence to their own people. All they do is come out and give a 50000 word sorry lecture on a terrorist attack and go home and sleep.
Its really a shame that you guys didnt have democracy ever in pakistan. I donno why such thing happens there?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
agree to your comment re PPP govt f pakistan regarding terrorist acts where they give a scripted speach and then pose smiling on cameras.
Indian hindu fanatic organisations like RSS & shiv sina are more than capible than you are giving them credit. they laid in wait to attack while the news about the train arson was "spread" & within hundreds of Muslims lost their lives aling with their properties in the end thousands of muslims were slain by these fanatics.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
just because there is more world wide media coverage of terrorists with muslim outfit & also due to short term memory of people it doesnt mean that there are no other ethnic or other religious fanatic organisations that are capible of doing even more than what alqaida or lashkar e toiba have managed.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
I was talking about the shiv sena and I dont know if rss is that dangerous but their sister org called the bajrang dal certainly is. But these organizations do not possess ak 47 and send suicide bombers to kill people on a daily basis. Moreover the lashkar and jamat are banned by the UN not by us and these fringe groups in India that you talk about are not even classified as terror groups be any standards.
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Tho I condemn wht happned in gujrat but if the same thing had done by non muslims in islamic nations, I'm sure the non muslims would have be skinned alive...Look at the state of non muslims in islamic nations. Its worst than animals to say the least...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
I agree dat the islamic terror is doing the rounds in the media all over da world but a death is a death. If an israeli kills innocent arabs its no sensation cos they do it covertly but when a muslim sends suicide bomber its big news cos suicide bombings creates sensationalism...
You know its intrsting dat suicide bombings were actually invented by hindus. LTTE are hindus nd they started this trend. I'm tamil hindu myself nd know hw it would feel for a common muslim 2 be calld a terrorist.
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
i agree, a crime against humanity no matter how small or big and whoever does it should be condmened, whether its done by an illitrate fanatic with a wild beard or a clean shaven sun glasses wearing solider of a country which enjoys unqualified support from the west no matter what it does to people under its occupation in the name of self defence (i hope you know who I mean)
i always condemn the people who terrorise the normal people getting on with their daily lives.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
taliban and Al qaida always quote Quranic verses to support their sick ideology but only to an extect and without context where it suits them. its the same Quran which says that killing one human is like killing a generation. one innocent life is as dear as thousands.
i pray for everyones safety regardless of country and religion.
yes muslim countries have also bad track record with minorites (muslim sects like shia and other nonmuslims)
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
I was about to say that for the al qaida and taliban who spread terror in the name of allah thats why others think that theres something wrong with islam. I dont blame them either cos its a natural reaction cos killing just because someone is a non muslim is absurd but then more and more ppl like you should come forward and explain that this is not what islam teaches and the al qaida and group is just demfaming islam. I think they use islam to infulence common muslims to work as their pawn...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
our voice is ignored. talking peace & reconciliation is not good for media. it has to be sensational, shocking and controversial
media can sell more stories by showing shocking footage of taliban and their leaders threatening everyone to kill rather than a respecting & peaceful practicing muslim who talks about love & respect.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
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Mirpurmad 2 years ago
You see, I donno what exactly is al qaida's agenda but I think they want to spred islam throught the world through muscle? cant understand what they would acheive by carrying out terror? I'm sure the americans wont surrender to them would they? Organizations like the hamas on the other hand do have a genuine cause because palestine is being occupied. Tho firing rockets to israel would only make things worse for poor palestines. Might has unfortunately always been the right...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
beautiful analysis I fully agree
al qaida/ taliban are manily a group of people called kharjis (deserters) who term all other muslims as nonmuslims & treat them the same as they would any Jew or Christian etc.
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
they think their faith ONLY is the right one & anyone foolish enough to even disagree in the slightest should be punished by death. hence they kill civilians saying that they pay taxes to goverments who al qaida is opposed to. its a waste of time to even try to reason with them by their defination worlds 99.99% population deserves to be killed at their hands
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
media/ attention sell value was the word I was looking for. media likes omeone causing a shock or controversy. I have just stopped trying to defend & explain islam because such opinions are mostly unheard or forgotten. every religion had its time in past look at Christiaity bloody history look what Arians did to Budhists but news didnt travel that fast with all the graphic details, its islam tern now with all the media & technology things look far more worse than mere stories in the past
Mirpurmad 2 years ago
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"you know yourself The Taliban in Pak are funded by India/Israel and America"
Dont be so naive...Taliban are radical islamist. Do you think they would do business with Jews or hindus? whom they so desparately hate lol.
I can only laugh at your allegation that India supports the Taliban. I dunno about the US.
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
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"Just watch the video you're commenting on to find out what India is doing in Pak and Afghanistan."
Well, I dont take the word of an over exited journalist who wants to make it big on pak tv...you mean to say people would believe what this rookie has 2 say about India? lol
Hes not in FBI is he?
"What's my ID or me living in a cave got to do with this subject "
Nothing, I just found that unique. Are you in a bad mood or what?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
He said there's solid proof....we all know he's not 'over excited' he's speaking the truth and it make's alot of sense.
I've always been intrested in Gothic Culture-that's all
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
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Continued from.....
Cos taliban is very much there in afghan and they dont really like the fact that men keep a goatee or shave their face and women fo without a burka?
"Pakistan took in 2 Million Afghan refugees too."
The state of those refugess is no good than that of those that live in afghan...
"Take a look at what you're Country's doing to both Pakistan and Afghanistan"
What is our country doing in pak and afghan?
Lastly whats up with your ID? Do you live in caves?
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
Maybe the state of those Refugees is no better than Afghanistan but they're a hell of alot safer.
Just watch the video you're commenting on to find out what India is doing in Pak and Afghanistan.
What's my ID or me living in a cave got to do with this subject?
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Take a look at what you're Country's doing to both Pakistan and Afghanistan....
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Do you're hindu's like Pakistani Muslims?
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
"Do you're hindu's like
Pakistani Muslims" <--- ????
Is that a new age english or something ? :)
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
"you're" Indian Hindus...they're "you're" people...
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Yes I'm a hindu but not very religions unlike some of you msulims and "who are our people"? What exactly are you trying to suggest?
and why do you guys always inevitably bring religion in almost everthing? be it eating, walking, cooking, bycycling, sleeping, even while making love perhaps?
This is 2010 AD not 570 AD...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
You said Pakistani Muslims don't like Afghans or Hindus-you brought relegion into this...
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
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This was you very first comment:
"I know Afghan's don't like Pak,but always remember Hindus and Jews are the enemies of both Pak and Afghansitan"
And yet you say I bring religion into this haha...
And yes I do beleive that most of pakistanis hate Indians specially hindus for which I dont have any problems cos I dont expect love from a land filled with radicals and extremists who kill fellow muslims and acheive nothing at the end of the day...
dignifiedflirt 2 years ago
@cavegirl1985
Hindus do not hate Afghanistan. The only ones interested in subjugating Afghanistan are the Pakistanis who want to prop up forces like the Taliban and ruin the lives of the Afghans in order to create their so-called "strategic depth" against India.
ukbang2007 1 year ago
cont....Even if we have to butt fuck their soliders in afgh. we should do it. let them cry in UN. As far as india is concern it is very easy to control them we stop their overflights to Afgh. but for this we need a dignified leadership in Pak. Indian ideology is based on hatred towards muslims, they are not in afgh for building afgh but to spy on and create problems in Pak. That is the sole purpose of this 3" dick little kafir satan.
gaga00114 2 years ago
Both india and US are terrorists countries. US terrorism is global while india's terrorism is local. India was supporting the tamils in srilanka for many years and those poor guys had to fight their way out. Until the big satan(US) is in afgh there is not going to be any peace. Pak should support talibans in afgh and kick these terrorists out by hook or by crook. Rememeber US has never played a fair game in war. They have bombed civilians, used white phosphorus in afg and iran. cont.....
gaga00114 2 years ago 2
Very true, America is evil, they love critize other nations about their problems and refused to admit to their own
PakistaniisPower 2 years ago 4
@PakistaniisPower are you stoned?:D..america media is full of america problems:D.
MrEestimaa 1 year ago
US won't get out of Af-Pak in one piece.
icdumppl1 2 years ago
Coward USA toops are planing to run away after killing millions of innocents in a Muslim country.
AFilmDirector 2 years ago
dont think about media, Americans know indians are creating terrorism via Afghanistan into Pakistan and they are encouraging their baby, we dont need to convince Americans we need to respond and respond now, good job by young man
dustbinnn 2 years ago
Excellent Job Ahmed Bhaye!! Cheetay Hoo Tussi!! Kam Chuk Kay Rakhooo, Assi Tuhaday Naal Aaan!!
Aaadil8 2 years ago
AQ killed them !
barhaich 2 years ago 2
Welldone AQ! But you should have also mentioned India's involvement in Swat & Waziristan.
SinbadReturns 2 years ago
AQ screwed the two devil's disciples
fg000yahoo 2 years ago 4
saw this live...it sucked not have him through the whole program but i loved it when he did make his case...excellent work as always ahmed quraishi
deewana16 2 years ago 3
Their own government is unable to produce evidence and this idiot AQ goes on talking about evidence being there...???
snazare1510 2 years ago
as he mentioned, the indirect evidence is there. For starters, Manmohan Singh's acceptance of putting Baloch insurgency on the agenda between pak and India in Sharm al Sheikh is one way of "accepting" that role. He made very reasonable points
xcessdenied 2 years ago 2
I wish he had mentioned though that unlike India Pakistan is fighting that same war on its own soil, when you mention India's constructive activities, u cannot expect us to parallel those in Kabul, we've enough of that happening on our own soil. On top of that, providing security and route for NATO supplies is a huge job in itself that pak. is providing for the stability in Afgh not to mention mediating the talks between taliban and usa which seem to ve adopted quite a momentum these days.
xcessdenied 2 years ago
oh yea, and this is even though I am not a fan of Ahmed qureshi or of conspiracy theories. This was still a commendable job.
xcessdenied 2 years ago
love u ahmed bhai
THEKRIA 2 years ago 2
Pakistan did too much when Russia came to Afghanistan and all Afghans migrated too Pakistan. These selfish Afghans have forgotten that?
Desithrill 2 years ago 8
OK but that means nothing when Musharraf allied with the US to defeat the same government Pakistan helped establish. Its almost worse to help and betray than to have never helped at all. Pakistan provides logistical support CRITICAL to America's success in Afghanistan. Even without it the Taliban have won but it has cost them dearly.
Adnowwwwn 2 years ago
Its easy to sit on computer and talk big! But let me tell you what the reality is! America threatened Musharraf that they will "bomb us back to the stone age" if we didn't help them! And also don't forget this quote :"your either with us or against us"! So basically we had no choice! But however i do admit we made a lot of mistakes in this process, Musharraf did use this war for his own gains and he didn't take time to explain to the world the difference between Taliban and al qaida terrorists!
NinjaSword5 2 years ago
America did not officially threaten to bomb Pakistan (Armitage personally did) even though it would have been likely. The truth is Musharraf bitched out and made Pakistani's look like little pussies. If only he had the balls that Ahmadinejad does he would have stood up to them and told them to fuck off. He should have told them EXACTLY what would get nuked if Pakistan were attacked like Iran did, and they don't even have nukes or a strong military! Now suicide bombings are a daily occurrence.
Adnowwwwn 2 years ago
Desithrill- You're right Pakistan should have never helped Afghans in the first place....
cavegirl1985 2 years ago
Ahmed Qurashi for Dictator!
Scarfaced111 2 years ago