"A pretty good feeling when you can start 3 under par before you tee off, you understand what I'm tellin ya". Lee Trevino. No doubt about that Lee,lol, no doubt.
If you analyze the swings of professional golfers closely they appear to be very different. The grip (apart from locking vs. overlap) is almost universally the same as is the body's overall position at impact.
@jr55ful True, and this is why I wonder why some people consistently claim that Tiger is much better than Jack, just because he appears more athletic and modern..but upgraded with today's clubs, I am quite sure Jack would easily have kept up with players of our times. Besides that, Jack's true strength was the mental game, staying calm even if things were going against him, unlike Woods...
@rorikjunior nobody intimidated like tiger woods. Man,if tiger was in the last group of the final round the tournament was over when he showed up at the practice green.The competition turned to jelly.
@rw5791 Perhaps, but will Tiger be able to pull that off when he is 46? Also, Nicklaus finished 6th place 58 years age in the 1998 Masters playing with hips he had replaced the year after...Tiger is now struggling to even play with his knee problems...
@rorikjunior I thought tiger would get 19 majors by the time he was 40.Hell,the masters was like his own personal pitch n' putt course but now he's got bad knees and the other golfers have developed thier own power games.Plus,tiger can't intimidate anymore because everyone knows now what an asshole he is so he's not getting the gallery support like back in the 2000's.
who is the "coil and sweep" dipshit at the end of the video? he lost his balance big time. Just coil, lame and sweep and then loose your balance. fail!
in the early 60's he held the worlds longest drive record of 342 it stood for over 20 years. thats with small headed persimin woods antique equipment. just imagine if he was 30 with the stuff they have now? he would be untouchable tiger would be carrying his clubs.
@pinboyjorf No one ever dominated his competition like Tiger in his prime. I would love to see them go head to head in their primes itd be pretty awesome
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So how close do you think _any_ current player could come to Jack's GIR percentage, given persimmon, blades, and balata, and hitting the same-number clubs into greens that he did?
I've been watching a few swing from some of the old greats, and find it intersting how individual all their swings seem to be. So many of todays players could mould into one another. Too much 'overcoaching' goes on these days
I just can not believe how he lifted his left foot (heel) and the foot slides all around. You don't see that today. It goes to show you do not have to have such a solid base to be good!
@vsp3589 Path Plane, and Impact are the only things that matter in the golf swing. These heel list super mobile swings are great for bombing the ball long high and straight.
They who says that these Champs (like Jack N, Sam S, Tom W and other) golfswing are obsolete and out of date are wrong. This is a real powerful golfswing to challange every pro of today.
@petereuropa They do have powerful golfswing, but put that swing into most people, the ball would be going EVERYWHERE and be extremely inconsistent. What they did have, was amazing athleticism and co-ordination to be able to repeat their motion exactly everytime.
Today's game revolve around having a swing with very little moving parts and we now understand the bio-mechanics of the swing better and is able to coach people to have a strong swing without bombing it by being more efficient.
@jackhon I will never be a master in golf, I just love the game. So can I advice? I don't know. But as Sam S., Phil M., Jack N and some other masters, for example lift their left foot heal on the backswing. Myself I have tried to copy Ben H.'s swing (see= Ben Hogan Golf Swing on YT). To start with the hip. That has helped me a lot. I trust Jack N.'s words. All swings are the same movement. I'm just a glad amateur who wants to improve my golf. And unfortunately I have only one eye to see with.
@jackhon I want to add: it is very important to take lessons from a pro. When I take lessons, I get the right feedback from a guy who is an expert of the game. That has helped me a lot! Looking at these videos is Ok, but it is sometimes difficult to know if you make mistakes. I did a lot of mistakes, but with the feedback from the pro I try to improve my game and avoid mistakes.
@jackhon You have to be joking! The modern swing, bio-mechanics, and 3d technology have NOT lowered golf scores. Handicaps have NOT decreased in over 50 years. What gives? The truth is that different golfers are able to accomplish different movements. Mike Austin was a kinesiologist that create a super efficient swing that BOMBED the ball with a highly mobile pivot, lifted heel, and a huge arc--- It also was easy on the body. He routinely launched ballata balls 330+ yard with a persimmon driver
Jack would make people faint. So would Sam Snead.
Jack once reached that 630-yard 16th hole at Firestone with, as he put it, "two well-hit 3-woods." There's a plaque on a par-5 in Arizona (I can't remember the course) saying "From this spot, Jack Nicklaus scored double eagle. Club: 8-iron." Think about that for a second.
You're exactly right on Nicklaus & Snead. I can't remember the Arizona par-5, but the comment on the 16th at Firestone, I do remember. Unreal. Also, in the 1964 Masters, Nicklaus hit driver, eight-iron slightly over the green on the 15th, then measuring 520 yards. Huge.
know the course in AZ....not a ridiculous drive...its a 500 yd par 5 thats downhill and usually downwind.....340 yd drives are normal on that hole.....
Wow amazing.. but he didn't really have what you'd call a flat back would you? you can see why he had neck issues later on with all that speed/whip at the bottom of the swing. SO much power!
@DimaSilchenko I think he did a decent job...though Jack setup with his hands much more forward (more shaft lean at address) and obviously this guy way overdid the finish.
@DimaSilchenko On the plus side he did a pretty good job with the backswing pivot...steepish shoulder turn, arms probably coming well enough to the inside, releases the club a lot in the downswing...and some hip slide and a lack of spine tilt at the top both resembling 80s Jack. (if the clothes and finish weren't enough indication)
For a long time instructors taught students to have the feeling you were “sitting” on a bar stool. I always believed we should have been teaching people to feel as though you were “leaning” back on a stool. The last thing you would ever want to do is sit in golf. Sitting will cause the golf club to swing too level to the ground in the downswing, and you will have a tendency to hit the ground behind the golf ball. w w w (dot) golferbreak80 (dot) c0m
Wow, what an athletic golfer. If Jack came along today teaching pros would change so many great things that he did with his swing. For starters they would tell him to keep the left heel on the ground. Watch most of young pros today. They are not free to let their lower body help launch the ball as Jack did. Back then woods were made from wood. Give the Persimmons driver to today's player and they would start being more athletic again. Thanks for posting. Hammer
FWIW, the big move to the outside of the left foot was more of a mid-career thing; if you look at photos from his late teens and early 20s, he was much firmer in the left leg at impact, and later in his career he came to believe that was a better way to do it--that you could still release from the ground up with a strong move without sagging or bowing the left side so much. Grout never liked that move anyway--tried to get Jack to swing "from the insides of the feet."
Intangibles that Jack has over Tiger IMO are swing tempo & distance control. The latter as a result of the former. When comparisons are made between Jack & Tiger, this rarely seems to come up. Hogan & Jones (obviously Snead) had super tempo as well, but Jack had more overall power.
When asked what Jack's greatest strength was, Tom Watson immediately said swing tempo.
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FullTimeHypocrite 1 week ago
wtf is that crap at the end nice move grandpa.
dschultz6072 2 months ago
Coil................and sweep. Lol!
drewster85 2 months ago
Guy at the end is crap!
vidvivvid 4 months ago
Man does that first swing look fast! Gotta wonder what a young Niklaus could have done to a golf course with a ProV1 and a modern driver...
maxwells1987 6 months ago
@maxwells1987
Just a huge rip at the ball. Those early 60s shot where he has the wide stance are just violent.
MrLuigiFercotti 2 months ago
"hit it here Ohio fats". Good thing Jack is white. Imagine if he was black or latino. It would have been much worse for him, lol.
SwingItLikeMoe 7 months ago
"A pretty good feeling when you can start 3 under par before you tee off, you understand what I'm tellin ya". Lee Trevino. No doubt about that Lee,lol, no doubt.
SwingItLikeMoe 7 months ago
If you analyze the swings of professional golfers closely they appear to be very different. The grip (apart from locking vs. overlap) is almost universally the same as is the body's overall position at impact.
bailinnumberguy 8 months ago
Jack Nicklaus; The greates player of all time!! And remember he was cranking out drives of 300 yards with persimmon drivers!!!
watertonrivers 8 months ago
WAS JACK BETTER THAN HOGAN?
JAKEHARRIS281 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 yes...
BoHoVsGolf 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281
7 majors more than bobby jones
11 majors more than hogan
a quantam leap forward from hogan and jones-taken from mark shaws book on nicklaus
but of course this is overlooked.but not by me
fs1natra 8 months ago
@fs1natra bobby jones retired at 28
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holee shit is this loud! blew my eardrums...thanks...not
Evestrough 10 months ago
holee shit is this loud! blew my eardrums...thanks...not
Evestrough 10 months ago
If he was in his prime nowadays he´d hit it as far as Bubba, but a lot more accurate. He´d still overpower most golf courses.
TheOneAndOnlycE 11 months ago
averaged 270 plus with balata balls and persimmon woods. he would have to get a flightplan with today's equipment.
jr55ful 11 months ago 3
@jr55ful True, and this is why I wonder why some people consistently claim that Tiger is much better than Jack, just because he appears more athletic and modern..but upgraded with today's clubs, I am quite sure Jack would easily have kept up with players of our times. Besides that, Jack's true strength was the mental game, staying calm even if things were going against him, unlike Woods...
rorikjunior 10 months ago
@rorikjunior nobody intimidated like tiger woods. Man,if tiger was in the last group of the final round the tournament was over when he showed up at the practice green.The competition turned to jelly.
rw5791 8 months ago
@rw5791 Perhaps, but will Tiger be able to pull that off when he is 46? Also, Nicklaus finished 6th place 58 years age in the 1998 Masters playing with hips he had replaced the year after...Tiger is now struggling to even play with his knee problems...
rorikjunior 8 months ago
@rorikjunior I thought tiger would get 19 majors by the time he was 40.Hell,the masters was like his own personal pitch n' putt course but now he's got bad knees and the other golfers have developed thier own power games.Plus,tiger can't intimidate anymore because everyone knows now what an asshole he is so he's not getting the gallery support like back in the 2000's.
rw5791 8 months ago
I just noticed how important golf cameramen are...
Orangebike666 11 months ago
hit it heah you boob!
grinchychristmas 11 months ago
who is the "coil and sweep" dipshit at the end of the video? he lost his balance big time. Just coil, lame and sweep and then loose your balance. fail!
wols0003 1 year ago
in the early 60's he held the worlds longest drive record of 342 it stood for over 20 years. thats with small headed persimin woods antique equipment. just imagine if he was 30 with the stuff they have now? he would be untouchable tiger would be carrying his clubs.
pinboyjorf 1 year ago
@pinboyjorf No one ever dominated his competition like Tiger in his prime. I would love to see them go head to head in their primes itd be pretty awesome
tim191219 1 year ago
@pinboyjorf
I think he can hit more than 350 yds with the recent driver we have today!
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1BoomerTEE 1 year ago
I never realized he had such a loose left knee and heel.
rw5791 1 year ago
He had many injuries because his swing was shite!
Deano1000000 1 year ago
@Deano1000000 j
top 10 finishes in majors
1/nicklaus with 73 majors
2/watson with something like 45
so much for a shite swing
jacks gir in 1968 not equalled for the next 40 years
fs1natra 6 months ago
@fs1natra
So how close do you think _any_ current player could come to Jack's GIR percentage, given persimmon, blades, and balata, and hitting the same-number clubs into greens that he did?
emncaity 3 months ago
.36 was the best swing, a swing that beat his opponents pretty easy. a swing that also beats tigger woods
huntersingle 1 year ago
the first real power player: Jack Nicklaus. I swear he got that front leg kick from Bobby Jones,
schwabichinn 1 year ago
sure win swing...
DFORCE8228305 1 year ago
I've been watching a few swing from some of the old greats, and find it intersting how individual all their swings seem to be. So many of todays players could mould into one another. Too much 'overcoaching' goes on these days
Charlie9046 1 year ago
I just can not believe how he lifted his left foot (heel) and the foot slides all around. You don't see that today. It goes to show you do not have to have such a solid base to be good!
vsp3589 1 year ago
@vsp3589 Path Plane, and Impact are the only things that matter in the golf swing. These heel list super mobile swings are great for bombing the ball long high and straight.
DeniedHealthCare 1 year ago
they seemed to have ugly swing back then -
teewoods 1 year ago
They who says that these Champs (like Jack N, Sam S, Tom W and other) golfswing are obsolete and out of date are wrong. This is a real powerful golfswing to challange every pro of today.
petereuropa 1 year ago
@petereuropa They do have powerful golfswing, but put that swing into most people, the ball would be going EVERYWHERE and be extremely inconsistent. What they did have, was amazing athleticism and co-ordination to be able to repeat their motion exactly everytime.
Today's game revolve around having a swing with very little moving parts and we now understand the bio-mechanics of the swing better and is able to coach people to have a strong swing without bombing it by being more efficient.
jackhon 1 year ago
@jackhon I will never be a master in golf, I just love the game. So can I advice? I don't know. But as Sam S., Phil M., Jack N and some other masters, for example lift their left foot heal on the backswing. Myself I have tried to copy Ben H.'s swing (see= Ben Hogan Golf Swing on YT). To start with the hip. That has helped me a lot. I trust Jack N.'s words. All swings are the same movement. I'm just a glad amateur who wants to improve my golf. And unfortunately I have only one eye to see with.
petereuropa 1 year ago
@jackhon I want to add: it is very important to take lessons from a pro. When I take lessons, I get the right feedback from a guy who is an expert of the game. That has helped me a lot! Looking at these videos is Ok, but it is sometimes difficult to know if you make mistakes. I did a lot of mistakes, but with the feedback from the pro I try to improve my game and avoid mistakes.
petereuropa 1 year ago
@jackhon You have to be joking! The modern swing, bio-mechanics, and 3d technology have NOT lowered golf scores. Handicaps have NOT decreased in over 50 years. What gives? The truth is that different golfers are able to accomplish different movements. Mike Austin was a kinesiologist that create a super efficient swing that BOMBED the ball with a highly mobile pivot, lifted heel, and a huge arc--- It also was easy on the body. He routinely launched ballata balls 330+ yard with a persimmon driver
DeniedHealthCare 1 year ago
@jackhon No way in heck Jack. Are you kidding me?
paulski5 1 year ago
@jackhon
Unfortunately that kind of modern swing mechanics didn't work for me and i ended up swing like jack nicklaus
a great swing for bombing a driver.
brainysnaeha 11 months ago
@petereuropa Damn right Peter.
paulski5 1 year ago
Jeeze no wonder he had injuries! He KILLED it! Crank it back an WHAMMO! Surprising that such a violent looking action was so accurate.
Noallegiance 1 year ago 10
Take that first swing and give today's driver / ball technology and the distance would be unbelievable.
sretsam68 1 year ago
Jack would make people faint. So would Sam Snead.
Jack once reached that 630-yard 16th hole at Firestone with, as he put it, "two well-hit 3-woods." There's a plaque on a par-5 in Arizona (I can't remember the course) saying "From this spot, Jack Nicklaus scored double eagle. Club: 8-iron." Think about that for a second.
Goynes42 1 year ago
You're exactly right on Nicklaus & Snead. I can't remember the Arizona par-5, but the comment on the 16th at Firestone, I do remember. Unreal. Also, in the 1964 Masters, Nicklaus hit driver, eight-iron slightly over the green on the 15th, then measuring 520 yards. Huge.
sretsam68 1 year ago
@Goynes42 - I forgot...the double eagle was during the 1996 Tradition.
sretsam68 1 year ago
@Goynes42
know the course in AZ....not a ridiculous drive...its a 500 yd par 5 thats downhill and usually downwind.....340 yd drives are normal on that hole.....
MFBueno63 1 year ago
Lots of laughs at the guy trying to emulate Jack there at the end...I don't recall ever seeing Jack lose his balance and fall back after the shot.
Jack was the Master.
Goynes42 1 year ago
Gotta have real strong legs to swing like Jack.
16penney 1 year ago
Wow amazing.. but he didn't really have what you'd call a flat back would you? you can see why he had neck issues later on with all that speed/whip at the bottom of the swing. SO much power!
kiwijohn01 1 year ago
I like the guy trying to emulate his swing at the end of the video: FAIL. Only thing that looked somewhat resembling was the head twist.
DimaSilchenko 2 years ago
@DimaSilchenko I think he did a decent job...though Jack setup with his hands much more forward (more shaft lean at address) and obviously this guy way overdid the finish.
paulski5 1 year ago
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@DimaSilchenko On the plus side he did a pretty good job with the backswing pivot...steepish shoulder turn, arms probably coming well enough to the inside, releases the club a lot in the downswing...and some hip slide and a lack of spine tilt at the top both resembling 80s Jack. (if the clothes and finish weren't enough indication)
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For a long time instructors taught students to have the feeling you were “sitting” on a bar stool. I always believed we should have been teaching people to feel as though you were “leaning” back on a stool. The last thing you would ever want to do is sit in golf. Sitting will cause the golf club to swing too level to the ground in the downswing, and you will have a tendency to hit the ground behind the golf ball. w w w (dot) golferbreak80 (dot) c0m
cyberspaceism 2 years ago
Wow, what an athletic golfer. If Jack came along today teaching pros would change so many great things that he did with his swing. For starters they would tell him to keep the left heel on the ground. Watch most of young pros today. They are not free to let their lower body help launch the ball as Jack did. Back then woods were made from wood. Give the Persimmons driver to today's player and they would start being more athletic again. Thanks for posting. Hammer
wholebrainplanet 2 years ago
jack Nicklaus was POWER GOLF PERSONIFIED !
azbaldy5 2 years ago 2
Holy crap great video. How about that first swing...holy schmoly...speeeeeeed.
paulski5 2 years ago
the swing is almost a pre tiger. he coils just like tiger does...i won't be surprised if tiger learnt 80% from jack's swing.
tuchitochi 2 years ago
Thanks to the OP.
FWIW, the big move to the outside of the left foot was more of a mid-career thing; if you look at photos from his late teens and early 20s, he was much firmer in the left leg at impact, and later in his career he came to believe that was a better way to do it--that you could still release from the ground up with a strong move without sagging or bowing the left side so much. Grout never liked that move anyway--tried to get Jack to swing "from the insides of the feet."
emncaity 2 years ago
Great video!
Intangibles that Jack has over Tiger IMO are swing tempo & distance control. The latter as a result of the former. When comparisons are made between Jack & Tiger, this rarely seems to come up. Hogan & Jones (obviously Snead) had super tempo as well, but Jack had more overall power.
When asked what Jack's greatest strength was, Tom Watson immediately said swing tempo.
sretsam68 2 years ago
Coil (come get those legs in it). the shoot the legs ang SWEEP!!!! you´ll look like Jack
schauspieler23 2 years ago
what an amazing golfer
gwhizzle25 2 years ago
Wow thanks to whoever put all of this together.
some29yearoldguy 2 years ago 11