if you cant afford the lmf like me, its choosing between the bg ultimate or the prodigy. the extras that come with the ultimate make it a very attractive choice; the lashing holes, fire striker, sharpener, and thick pommel. i also like that it has a thicker blade than the prodigy, and that it is orange, making it easy to find if you happen to drop it. but the prodigy takes the cake for three reasons: its made of better steel, its full tang(bg is 3/4), and most importantly, its made in america!
@imachewiebar My money is on the Prodigy for overall performance. The extras that come with the BG are handy- the whistle on the lanyard, the honing stone on the sheath, fire steel, etc.- and make for an attractive kit concept, but it doesn't matter if the knife doesn't perform well at cutting tasks. It's not a terrible knife, but if you're the type who abuses your tools, it just won't stand up. IMO the Prodigy is the better buy.
I'd never buy a product with an endorsed name on it. Less it said Chuck Norris. I don't like the orange of the bg not very stealthy also hammering nails is not a priority the pointed edge on the Lmf is way more useful I own one and it is my favorite save for a fully hand made job I payed a shit load for in volcano ca.
@BonesTheCat I haven't tested it on that particular substance. Fecal matter is usually pretty soft, and therefor I don't consider it much of a challenge for any knife.
The Prodigy and LMF II have to be made to military specifications so they have a much harder steel. I've "heard"(in videos) many complaints about the Bear Grylls serrations bending and literally chipping off. Allot of them say if you grind them down it improves the knife greatly.
@Beachcrib Correct. Not the same factory, not the same country, not the same quality. There's a comment above from a user "creative10101010" that goes into detail about the metals used and is also very informative. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
@rockervalentine No one has told me I sound like Jeff Goldblum. Do I? If they did, would it be a compliment or a criticism? Maybe I'll try to channel my inner Ian Malcolm in an upcoming video. I already "uh" and "uhm" too much though. LOL! Thanks for watching and commenting!
The BG knife has to be made from a cheaper steel because it is priced the same or less than the other knives and the BG knife has to pay those licensing fees and includes all that other stuff.
@deasttn That seems like a fair point, but I've found the Prodigy cheaper than the BG and it's a far better knife overall. Pretty disappointing for a so called survival expert's ULTIMATE knife. I don't know if they switched steel after the design input from Mr. Grylls (assuming that actually happened), but I've come to expect better from Gerber. I think we'll see the BG at clearance prices soon. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Hi. Just a clarification.. the LMF II and Prodigy are both made in Portland, Oregon. Both blades are made from either 420HC or Sandvik 12C27 stainless - quality stuff that is well heat treated with the Sandvik being the more desireable of the two if you can find it. The Bear Grylls knife is a Chinese knock-off, essentially, of the Prodigy. The knife is made in China of the "mystery steel" you speak of. Probably some #CR#MO type that is not as tough. Skip the BG, get a Prodigy for less $.
@creative10101010 Thanks! That's great info, but it unfortunately confirms my suspicions regarding the BG. Where did you get your info? I know the blades (LMF&Prodigy) are marked "Oregon", but is there any marking to tell which steel you've got? Thanks for watching and thanks for the great comment!
@BlackBagResources Lol.. too much time on my hands and I collect. The only way to tell which steel you're getting with the Prodigy and LMF II is to look for in in the description sentence on the packaging. If you don't see a specific steel listed on the packaging, or if it just says high carbon stainless on those knives it is probably 420HC. There was a brief run of 440A in these in the first months of 08 as well. Email Gerber and see if they'll tell you what the BG is. I'd love to know. :)
Good job. You focused on points that some people would not necessarily think of. These would be important points to consider when buying these products.
@mrtlsimon Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. When you look at knives this similar in print or online it tends to confuse some of us "Catalog Commandos"- so I thought it might be a good idea to put them side by side. Thanks for watching!
I have a Bear Grylls Ultimate Survival knife and i love it.
patton19451 1 day ago
if you cant afford the lmf like me, its choosing between the bg ultimate or the prodigy. the extras that come with the ultimate make it a very attractive choice; the lashing holes, fire striker, sharpener, and thick pommel. i also like that it has a thicker blade than the prodigy, and that it is orange, making it easy to find if you happen to drop it. but the prodigy takes the cake for three reasons: its made of better steel, its full tang(bg is 3/4), and most importantly, its made in america!
awestm11 6 days ago
I think the LMF is made of the 12C27 stainless steel,:) not a mystery metal.:) don't know the other two...
Iamthedudeman00 1 week ago
Would you rather get the Bear Grylls Ultimate at $37 or the Prodigy at $41?
imachewiebar 2 weeks ago
@imachewiebar My money is on the Prodigy for overall performance. The extras that come with the BG are handy- the whistle on the lanyard, the honing stone on the sheath, fire steel, etc.- and make for an attractive kit concept, but it doesn't matter if the knife doesn't perform well at cutting tasks. It's not a terrible knife, but if you're the type who abuses your tools, it just won't stand up. IMO the Prodigy is the better buy.
BlackBagResources 2 weeks ago
Just another clarification: The "Gerber mystery steel" is actually 425 Modified stainless. It can be compared to a poorly treated 440A.
noobslaya111 2 weeks ago
Thats because the Lmf and the prodigy are combat knifes and the Bear grills knife is a servile knife.
xBoddy51 3 weeks ago
I'd never buy a product with an endorsed name on it. Less it said Chuck Norris. I don't like the orange of the bg not very stealthy also hammering nails is not a priority the pointed edge on the Lmf is way more useful I own one and it is my favorite save for a fully hand made job I payed a shit load for in volcano ca.
xGOLDENAXEx 1 month ago
Does it cut shit?
BonesTheCat 2 months ago
@BonesTheCat I haven't tested it on that particular substance. Fecal matter is usually pretty soft, and therefor I don't consider it much of a challenge for any knife.
BlackBagResources 2 months ago 8
@BlackBagResources lol Touche
BonesTheCat 2 months ago
@BonesTheCat HAHA idk put your arm out lets see! =-p
TopRamenKing 2 months ago
The Prodigy and LMF II have to be made to military specifications so they have a much harder steel. I've "heard"(in videos) many complaints about the Bear Grylls serrations bending and literally chipping off. Allot of them say if you grind them down it improves the knife greatly.
RECONDO101st 2 months ago
Gerber lmf ii is made of 420hc
assasinscreedskins 3 months ago
Gerber LMF is made in the USA as top of the line Knife. The bear G . Knife is made in China. They are not from the same factory .
Beachcrib 3 months ago
@Beachcrib Correct. Not the same factory, not the same country, not the same quality. There's a comment above from a user "creative10101010" that goes into detail about the metals used and is also very informative. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
BlackBagResources 3 months ago
Anyone tell you that you sound like Jeff Goldblum?
rockervalentine 4 months ago
@rockervalentine No one has told me I sound like Jeff Goldblum. Do I? If they did, would it be a compliment or a criticism? Maybe I'll try to channel my inner Ian Malcolm in an upcoming video. I already "uh" and "uhm" too much though. LOL! Thanks for watching and commenting!
BlackBagResources 4 months ago
The BG knife has to be made from a cheaper steel because it is priced the same or less than the other knives and the BG knife has to pay those licensing fees and includes all that other stuff.
deasttn 5 months ago
@deasttn That seems like a fair point, but I've found the Prodigy cheaper than the BG and it's a far better knife overall. Pretty disappointing for a so called survival expert's ULTIMATE knife. I don't know if they switched steel after the design input from Mr. Grylls (assuming that actually happened), but I've come to expect better from Gerber. I think we'll see the BG at clearance prices soon. Thank you for watching and commenting!
BlackBagResources 5 months ago
Hi. Just a clarification.. the LMF II and Prodigy are both made in Portland, Oregon. Both blades are made from either 420HC or Sandvik 12C27 stainless - quality stuff that is well heat treated with the Sandvik being the more desireable of the two if you can find it. The Bear Grylls knife is a Chinese knock-off, essentially, of the Prodigy. The knife is made in China of the "mystery steel" you speak of. Probably some #CR#MO type that is not as tough. Skip the BG, get a Prodigy for less $.
creative10101010 7 months ago 3
@creative10101010 Thanks! That's great info, but it unfortunately confirms my suspicions regarding the BG. Where did you get your info? I know the blades (LMF&Prodigy) are marked "Oregon", but is there any marking to tell which steel you've got? Thanks for watching and thanks for the great comment!
BlackBagResources 7 months ago
@BlackBagResources Lol.. too much time on my hands and I collect. The only way to tell which steel you're getting with the Prodigy and LMF II is to look for in in the description sentence on the packaging. If you don't see a specific steel listed on the packaging, or if it just says high carbon stainless on those knives it is probably 420HC. There was a brief run of 440A in these in the first months of 08 as well. Email Gerber and see if they'll tell you what the BG is. I'd love to know. :)
creative10101010 7 months ago
Good job. You focused on points that some people would not necessarily think of. These would be important points to consider when buying these products.
astone327 7 months ago
Well done,I like concise and to the point videos. I have not seem these knives compared against each other on YouTube yet.
mrtlsimon 8 months ago
@mrtlsimon Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. When you look at knives this similar in print or online it tends to confuse some of us "Catalog Commandos"- so I thought it might be a good idea to put them side by side. Thanks for watching!
BlackBagResources 8 months ago