Amazing video! There isn't the danger that the heat produced breaks the glass, even if it's pyrex? And.. please, can you tell me what are the products of the reaction? KBrO3 + H2SO4 ---> Br2 + ..? Thanks in advance
you can mix bromate and bromine and add a bit of acid. Be careful, last time i got the same odourful blow of bromine vapour and got sore throat next day.
wow, thats a complicated setup. I use NaBr, HCl, and H2O2 as the oxidizer. It puts the elemental bromine in suspension. Than I simply heat it like youre doing. I find theres usually water vapour on top of the bromine but thats easy to draw off.
What did you bubble the bromine gas through? was it water? I see there was a lot of waste alot of the bromine didn't condense mabe an acid dropper would work better so you could control the rate of the acid and slow the gas production down thus condensing more of the bromine?
you can buy from any major chemical supplier (VWR, Alfa Aesar, etc...) but theirs will be expensive... i would look at united nuclear (they have one for $38)
I have yet to try sodium chlorate on a bromide salt with acid. It might be easier and safer than using chlorine gas. Up to a 100% excess of chlorine can be used to ensure the bromine is replaced from solution. At 5 Celsius or less, a majority of the bromine deposits on the bottom of the reactor. It need a good washing with cold water becuase the bromine is trapped in sodium chloride crusts. It looks like crude petrol in rock layers :)
I have Sodium Bromide, is there any way to extract the Bromine from it, in pure form, using electrolysis with a solution of it. I would like to extract the bromine from it with as least other chemicals as possible, to save money, but can you stop the bromine from dissolving in the solution in any way, or if not, can you later distill the bromine out of the water without letting too much water evaporate?
Make a supersaturated solution of it, and then bubble chlorine gas through it. Chlorine is much more electronegative than bromine, and thereby will abstract electrons from the bromide, creating a saltwater solution, along with elemental bromine.
It also works with concentrated H3P04 (85%) and an additional oxydising agent (KMnO4, K2Cr2O7), too, but use Potassiumbromide (or NaBr) instead the Bromate-Compound.
hey, does anybody know what a solution of NaHSO4 combined with KBr will produce, because NaHSO4 is so much cheaper than H2SO4. And also, would the yield of bromine be equivalent?
Bromate shouldn't yield more bromine than bromide. Anyway, bromate is more expensive.
The only advantage of bromate, is the self-oxidation of the bromide-ions, yielded by the reaction of bromate with sulfuric acis.
Damn! What lots of bromine vapors...
Hope you didn't inhalate too much of it.
What's your "other way" you mentioned (in a former comment "This is not my method for making bromine...") making bromine? I prefer using Chlorate as oxidizing agent for the bromide-ion (from KBr)
next time to make it more efficient, pass the remeaining vapours through sodium hydroxide soloution (conc) to produce sodium bromide and sodium hypobromite. boil the remainding solotion and collect the crystals then dd conc H2SO4 and repeat the whole process more efficiently
This is not my method for making bromine, It was just a demonstration using the retort. Thats why I name it condensing bromine. Yes this is very inefficient way of making bromine but the Bromine produced in this method comes out pure.
Holy crap that's scary!!! That's why you wear your respirator, and safety equipement children :)
spotlightman1234 7 months ago
Amazing video! There isn't the danger that the heat produced breaks the glass, even if it's pyrex? And.. please, can you tell me what are the products of the reaction? KBrO3 + H2SO4 ---> Br2 + ..? Thanks in advance
GemoVII 7 months ago
@GemoVI the reaction is not that hot and won't break glass, I'm know where to buy these chemicals mine were given to me
Basco36 7 months ago
U remember the retort's volume?? Look like around 50ml to 100ml, someting like that?
nickalisse1 7 months ago
@nickalisse1 100ml it is
Basco36 7 months ago
Basco you are the only person, i know, who can do these experiments ;)
DJFamou5 10 months ago
you can mix bromate and bromine and add a bit of acid. Be careful, last time i got the same odourful blow of bromine vapour and got sore throat next day.
abebenoob 11 months ago
can i use hydrochloric acid?
ubuntupokemoninc 1 year ago
NaBr + H2SO4 it work?
alessio3521 1 year ago
where can I find potassium bromate? can also work by mixing chlorine (gas) with sodium bromide?
alessio3521 1 year ago
YOU GUYS NEED TO BE CAREFUL . I USED TO WORK IN A BROMINE PLANT. THAT STUFF WILL BURN YOUR ASS UP.
SuperHoneycutt 1 year ago
u make Juice?? ;)
v1ssu 1 year ago
0:32 It wasn't clever ;/
Phacias 1 year ago
wow, thats a complicated setup. I use NaBr, HCl, and H2O2 as the oxidizer. It puts the elemental bromine in suspension. Than I simply heat it like youre doing. I find theres usually water vapour on top of the bromine but thats easy to draw off.
TheCaptainLulz 1 year ago
What did you bubble the bromine gas through? was it water? I see there was a lot of waste alot of the bromine didn't condense mabe an acid dropper would work better so you could control the rate of the acid and slow the gas production down thus condensing more of the bromine?
glenwoofit 1 year ago
good work
Radium1337 2 years ago
so arent the biproducts B2 H2O and NAS2?
chandlerbeckhoff 2 years ago
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Holy-Terrorist:>Bromine is very dangerous
for the cancer,
other, iodine chlorine fluorine is not causing cancer
Agentoxedo07 2 years ago
Could you tell me where you purchased your retort? Or was it created by a glassblower? It's a cutie :D
deckard154 2 years ago
you can buy from any major chemical supplier (VWR, Alfa Aesar, etc...) but theirs will be expensive... i would look at united nuclear (they have one for $38)
albgk 2 years ago
I am in the process of making Iron(III)bromide to use as a purifying agent in removing chlorine from the bromine.
j822bosh 2 years ago
I have yet to try sodium chlorate on a bromide salt with acid. It might be easier and safer than using chlorine gas. Up to a 100% excess of chlorine can be used to ensure the bromine is replaced from solution. At 5 Celsius or less, a majority of the bromine deposits on the bottom of the reactor. It need a good washing with cold water becuase the bromine is trapped in sodium chloride crusts. It looks like crude petrol in rock layers :)
j822bosh 2 years ago
I have Sodium Bromide, is there any way to extract the Bromine from it, in pure form, using electrolysis with a solution of it. I would like to extract the bromine from it with as least other chemicals as possible, to save money, but can you stop the bromine from dissolving in the solution in any way, or if not, can you later distill the bromine out of the water without letting too much water evaporate?
mcclurem13 3 years ago
Make a supersaturated solution of it, and then bubble chlorine gas through it. Chlorine is much more electronegative than bromine, and thereby will abstract electrons from the bromide, creating a saltwater solution, along with elemental bromine.
pyropakman 2 years ago
does this only work with H2SO4?
SplinterCell521 3 years ago
I think so
Basco36 3 years ago
HCl
vitorix24 2 years ago
@Basco36
It also works with concentrated H3P04 (85%) and an additional oxydising agent (KMnO4, K2Cr2O7), too, but use Potassiumbromide (or NaBr) instead the Bromate-Compound.
196Stefan2 1 year ago
@SplinterCell521 No, with every stronger acid than HBr.
Phacias 1 year ago
nm, i did it for myself and it worked perfectly if you add some h2o2 to the mixture
and i suggest using denatured alcohol chillled in a freezer or with dried ice in order to cool the bromine vapor, since this prevents loss of bromine
howe094 3 years ago
by the way, do you chill your water in order to condense the bromine for a higher yield due to less gas escaping, or will it not make a difference?
howe094 3 years ago
hey, does anybody know what a solution of NaHSO4 combined with KBr will produce, because NaHSO4 is so much cheaper than H2SO4. And also, would the yield of bromine be equivalent?
howe094 3 years ago
Bromate shouldn't yield more bromine than bromide. Anyway, bromate is more expensive.
The only advantage of bromate, is the self-oxidation of the bromide-ions, yielded by the reaction of bromate with sulfuric acis.
Damn! What lots of bromine vapors...
Hope you didn't inhalate too much of it.
What's your "other way" you mentioned (in a former comment "This is not my method for making bromine...") making bromine? I prefer using Chlorate as oxidizing agent for the bromide-ion (from KBr)
Greetings
Chaoschemiker 3 years ago
I make bromine by bubbling chlorine gas through a sodium bromide solution. I was planning to make a vid of it but never did.
Basco36 3 years ago
this guy really likes halogens 0.o
thedude77777 3 years ago
wats the powder in the rehotic
zasx20 3 years ago
Potassium bromate.
Basco36 3 years ago
When done with KI, hydrogen sulfide is releases - does this release H2S as well, and if done with KBr and not KBrO3, would that release H2S?
Sebbass69 3 years ago
With KBr, SO2 is the principal sulfur product (Although some H2S could be released)
2KBr + 2H2SO4 -> Br2 + SO2 + K2SO4 + 2H2O
I don't think it's the same situation with an oxidizing salt like KBrO3.
derkozten 3 years ago
next time to make it more efficient, pass the remeaining vapours through sodium hydroxide soloution (conc) to produce sodium bromide and sodium hypobromite. boil the remainding solotion and collect the crystals then dd conc H2SO4 and repeat the whole process more efficiently
:-)
stylcd 3 years ago
All that bromate and acid for that little bromine?!?!? A very inefficient method. Most of your bromine didn't condense but "flew away" as vapor.
Bosnabosnan 3 years ago
This is not my method for making bromine, It was just a demonstration using the retort. Thats why I name it condensing bromine. Yes this is very inefficient way of making bromine but the Bromine produced in this method comes out pure.
Basco36 3 years ago
Why potassium bromate over potassium bromide? Wouldnt the bromate salt yield bromic acid?
youfuckingasshole69 3 years ago
I believe both the bromide and bromate salt will yield hydrobromic acid. I chose the bromate salt cause it yields more bromine.
Basco36 3 years ago
I was wondering... if bromine is reduce from bromate (+5) to elemental form (0), what element is actually oxidized?
derkozten 3 years ago
what is H2SO2 exactly?
Randumshitstudios 3 years ago
Sorry H2SO4*
Randumshitstudios 3 years ago
oh, that is chemical formula for Sulfuric acid.
Basco36 3 years ago
ha, the first H2SO4 adding looked quite dangerous XD. And Br2 cooling, is in dry ice/acetone mixture?
Nice experiment; video quality can be improved, it's my suggestion.
derkozten 3 years ago
no, it was just is a salt ice bath.
Basco36 3 years ago
This shows how easily one can obtain a halogen! Great video! :D
jmmatos23 3 years ago 2
Very nice video! =)
mabakken 4 years ago