Vortex Heat Exchanger

[kenfo0]

there is no explanation anywhere about what is in the vid. it would be like me making a vid of my car engine running with a title of "rubber hose" but panning around talking about transmission fluid. can someone explain wtf this is about?

[lhester2003]

@kenfo0 This vidio displays that a portion of gasoline and water can be introduced into a small gasoline engine, with the engine continuing to run without a missfire. In other words, a "contaminated fuel such as gasoline contaminated with water' could be utilized without special treatment. No Majic Suggested. No overunity claims suggested based on my observation. Sorry about the lack of information.

Leonard Hester

[kenfo0]

@lhester2003 thanks for that explanation. you don't have to respond further if you don't want to, but it is common knowledge that outside a tiny amount of water in gas, it is detrimental and the engine won't run properly. In the video, that seems to be a revelation. Is this the BS idea that you can break the h20 into H and O and burn it? Conservation of energy principle say nix nix on that.

[lhester2003]

@kenfo0 Hi, I assembled this under the assumption that it was possible to ( Thermally Crack ) the water into oxygen and hydrogen.Unfortunatly I found later that there just is not enough heat inside of the combustion chamber during operation to produce this result. In fact I found that at the pouring temprature of (molten steel) only about 1/3 of water vapor is converted to hydrogen. Check out thermal dissociation of water on Wikipedia, Iron pours at about 2800F'

Thanks

[bluefly46]

It seems like a huge pain... bravo for trying though. Maybe it needs larger pipes to carry more volume.

[jpthecreaton]

did you say 'dry steam'? can we please pay attention to the language we've all agreed upon?!

[OregonHerbalist]

Paul Pantone is a Scam Artist. Soon he will be tarred and feathered by his angry student-investors. I have followed the GEET plans and built it. If you think Paul is for real then he is making you look stupid. Paul William Pantone: Social Security Number: 569-74-6239 D.O.B. 4August1950

[lhester2003]

Hi Oregon Herbalist,

Good to see that someone else understands very basic physics, but I gotta know, am I the only one stupid enough to pisss in the damn thing, then stand in the "cool clear exhaust gas" and smell that shit? Or did you build one also? If you read my other posts, then I believe we both agree, that sniffing exhaust fumes kill "perfictly good brain cells". Damn, when your dumb, ya gotta be tough!

Keep on keepin on

Leonard Hester

[trevronwithtechron]

Ha Runs on piss. What is the Pee/gas mix.

: )

[lhester2003]

Hi trevronwithtecron I ran this with a 60% gasoline and 40% piss. I dont believe any of the piss was converted to fuel, only stinky dry steam. Live, build, learn.

Sincerley

Leonard Hester

[hsodaye]

I would highly appreciate exact mechanical drawing with dimentions, HP of the motor, efficiacy with and without GEET. These are some of the items to be discussed. Please use tripod for recording.

All the best

[lhester2003]

Hi hsodaye

This information is posted on yahoo groups (Vortex heat exchanger) I have dissassembeled this from the 20 hp honda engine. I still have the plumbing intact as one peice, minus valves. I was intrested in the emissions claims, unfortunatly, this method produced easily detectable emissions. I was told by the moderator that "this doesn't remotely resemble a GEET"

Good luck in your research.

Sincerely

Leonard Hester

[bottleslingguy]

I like how all these bubblers are made with junky old soda bottles and pickle jars. : )

[lhester2003]

Hi bottleslingguy I agree, there is something majical about the sound of breaking glass, when one dissassembles fact from fiction. LOL!

keep on keepin on, and good luck in your research

Sincerely

Leonard Hester

[Stormrunner0002]

I saw on one of the videos that he did not recommend the exhaust bubblers for above a certain HP. Not for cars for one.

Do you think that the plasma rod converts the H2O vapour to HHO gases? The more volatile gases will have to evaporate first.

I wish I had a way to test this myself and use an HHO cell rather then a bubbler.

Recipe for Potash Lye for HHo Production.

Mix wood ashes (NO CHAR) in a bucket with water, 1-4 by volume. Let settle till clear, drain off and use water.

[lhester2003]

Hi Stormrunner0002 Personally I dont believe that any h2o gets converted to hho here, only h20 to dry steam. Recently someone on the group reported that he was able to briefly start an engine using hho with geet. Go to yahoo groups vortex heat exchanger.

Good luck

Sincerely

Leonard Hester

[paulbreor]

could you get a two cyclinder and have cyclinder 1 to be steam and have cyclinder 2 to be gas and us the heat from both to recycle with the bubbler sys.

[paulbreor]

cause if the problem is that the plugs get wet and the combustion is slightly not as strong/hot with hot hot water being added in the same cyclinder....does a steam engine use the four stroke concept. can they both make power around the same rpms so they independently work instead of adding back negative stress to the opposed cyclinder....

[lhester2003]

Hi paulbreor Actually this was the first time that I was able to controlthe fuel/water ratio, and by doing such, eliminated the wet plug problem. As far as steam engine operating charictoristics, they can operate 2 stroke and turbine, I am not sure about 4 stroke. The ones I am familiar with uses a piston and compression chambers on both sides of center of the length of the bore. Speed is controlled by pressure and controled by weighted governers.

Sincerly

Leonard Hester

[paulbreor]

yea that sound about right

[OregonHerbalist]

I have built the GEET reactor and it only works for 20 min then stops and is hard to start

[honda4004]

hi is this based on the pantone type machines thanks

[lhester2003]

Yes the Pantone device is the vertical piping that the exhaust t's into. The rest of the pipework that you see is just a long heat exchanger with multiple inlet valves that I used to test diffrent fuel combinations for carbon monoxide, the long heat exchanger was needed to monitor the ammounts of fuel to water consumed. With the bubbler like in the free plans not all of the fuel and little water is consumed. Ask if I can be of more assistance.

Sincerely

Leonard Hester

[lhester2003]

This is not new tech. It makes little if any hydrogen. It makes plenty of carbon monoxide. I believe the reactor came from a very old multi fuel carburator design and was perverted from there. But I may not know how to read a compass. Ever seen 4 Identical compases setting side by side? HA HA HA LOL If yer hurtin for bread dont invest here! Ethinol or Biodesel is a sure thing. Good luck folks. Leonard Hester