UFO Conference Nov 12, 2007 at National Press Club

[notti144]

its true go to rich planet dot net

[210482fmj]

aliens built our planet. that is something that could never be proven but is possible.

[november501]

Looks like a TR-3B American veryblack back engineered anti- gravity

[Hellerground]

OK you will be afraid by Aliens. Fuck! That's a lie! You're manipulate They want to convice you there will be an invasion. (sorry for the language, I don't speak English)

[foupana]

No more its a question.....SOME UFO´S ARE REALY EXTRATERRESTRIAL,YOU CAN CONFIRM IN MY CHANNEL THE IMPORTANT TESTIMONIES ABOUT THIS SUBJECT

[varus1985]

Thank god for a conference without that lunatic Steven Greer.

[coolkids3511]

I agree.

The world doesn't need new-age gibberish glazed over truth.

[tim2323w]

-0mk,k

[corkagh]

the maths a re a little wrong . I have checked out the formula.Sorry for the correction but do not want people to be mis lead .=3E8m/s, 1y=3.4E7s, => 1ly=9.6E15m

v=10ly/day = 9.3E16 m /8.64E5 s = 1.12E13 m/s.

v'=v·n^2. Let's assume v=1/3c=1E8m/s,

=> n = ceil( sqrt( v'/v)) = ceil( sqrt( 1.1E11/1E8 )) = 34. Since even HS are unstable, y n=35.

B=25T+n·32T => B=1.4kT.

[corkagh]

GOD IS DEAD..

PERIOD.

[foupana]

This is a great public service...thanks

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[Researcher30473]

anyone find the full video of this? torrents or otherwise?

[antigravitationskano]

you have a lot of time, hey, we have atomicbombs, a b c weapons, we kill every day people for us happyness, every day 10000 animals dying only for your sucking barbe... . who is your god? belive me, your god is not my god. +++ god is not here, he or she makes a holliday in ?

sorry for my bad english, i'm from poland. i nether think on a god, i belive on a menkind

[1981z28camaro]

You believe God exists because we and everything on the planet is so complicated that it can't be an accident, and I believe that UFO's exist based on the simple fact of Space being as large as it is. in fact I have more evidence than you have to support your belief in God, I have eye witness accounts, from respectable people that know their stuff. Show me a picture of God (a real picture)

[sacha4you]

I've already given you a statistical proof. There is also a tangible proof: Every piece of

matter is condensed energy and includes the forementioned intrinsic independent natural constants. Since God is a spritual universal being, you have no pics - but you can talk with him, and, you will get answers that are not from this world. And, I can assert you, this knowledge is widespread in our universe. UFOs are a completly different thing. It can be a landing duck, an ET craft, or sth. else.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

Correction it would be 661,788,000 Miles Per Second

[sacha4you]

1981z28camaro, if you want to deal with physics, I'd suggest, you use SI-unit [m,kg,s,A]. Hint: Instead of many zeros, common exponential notation is shorter, and better readable. E.g.

2000 = 2E3,

0.002 = 2E-3,

c= 3E8 m/s.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

Which means you would be traveling at this speed 57,178,483,200,000/per second

[sacha4you]

Here is the math:

c=3E8m/s, 1y=3.2E7s, => 1ly=9.6E15m

v=10ly/day = 9.6E16 m /8.64E5 s = 1.1E11 m/s.

v'=v·n^2. Let's assume v=1/3c=1E8m/s, to make shure, your dog will kiss you on your return:

=> n = ceil( sqrt( v'/v)) = ceil( sqrt( 1.1E11/1E8 )) = 34. Since even HS are unstable, you must chose the next odd: n=35.

B=25T+n·32T => B=1.2kT. Exactly that magnetic flux density you can bear for a couple of days. That's all it takes to say hello there.

;-))

[grhuihh]

hey douche bag, why dont you stop trying to sound intelligent by copying and pasting irrelevant mathematical formulas...you are impressing nobody. you most likely understand those formulas even less then the people you are trying to impress. furthermore, no mathematical formula can determine whether aliens exist or not

this reminds me of the pseudo science garbage creationists always throw around, until a real scientist challenges them and makes them look like a fool. now piss off

[1981z28camaro]

The United States Government has ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT, to keep something like Roswell a secret, I hate the United States for this reason, they think the world revolves around them, and they deserve to know this stuff, and the rest of the world can go fuck themselves. if they come out and simply said "For over 50 years we have known that E.T life exists, we do know that they are not a threat in any way to this planet, Thank you" simple as that, I just want to hear those fuckers say it

[1981z28camaro]

I'm tired of the government knowing what something was when they wernt even there, or did ANY investigation "It was a Weather Phenomenon" "it was swamp gas" WTF is swamp gas? no one fucken knows, they may as well tell us it was a big cloud of shit.

they think that they are Geniuses, that think we are Monkey's that believe what they tell us, I'm sure there's not one person that believes their explanations.

"we believe it was a large paper airplane" I'm waiting for this one.

[1981z28camaro]

Why don't they just say "Were not sure what people seen" I'd rather hear that then, some stupid explanation,

they are afraid tho that people will be like

"OMG!!!, The government didn't say it was a swamp gas!, they said they didn't know!!!!, "OMFG, we have to skin all our cats, and wear them as coats, to protect us from the Intense Alien Rays!!!, Bob, get me the tin foil...."

The government believes in their heart, that we will go INSANE if they say "We don't know"

It's irrational

[sacha4you]

For several decades, governments enforced their security policy with rather cruel means. E.g. intimidations, threats, murder, social isolation, prison, etc. Today, they use so called soft measures. E.g. silencing

a topic, declining answers, ridiculing, disinformation, etc. This way, nobody is harmed, but the goals can be reached as well as with 'hard' measures. If your govt won't to tell you, I do: Do not stay below a gravitomagnetically propelled craft. This causes sickness and vomit.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

I don't believe your working on that, first of all it would be well known by now, because that would revolutionize the world, and if it is true, where do you think we got the technology from? and if you were working on it, I'm sure it would be 14 Levels above top secret. because what your talking about is a Craft that can hover, and fly at high altitudes gravitomagnetically, which I don't believe we can duplicate, still didn't answer my question, Do you Believe in God?

[sacha4you]

That's fine, when you believe, a security level of 14 about top secret is required to

know about this technology, but I can tell you that's not the case. All knowledge is available from the internet, most of them was paid by your tax dollars. Since this technology is really powerful, I will provide the links by a private message.

Yes, I belive in God, because our universe is

too intelligently engineered that it could happened by chance.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

Can you give me some proof that God Exists?

[sacha4you]

Adjust only one of the natural constants.

Our universe would collapse immediatly. While liklyhood of self-adjustment is about 1E-1000000000 (rough estimation) in our 4DIM- spacetime, this is valid in all extra dimensions too. At least in this moment, you have seriously to consider an intelligent design. Except, you considered a liklyhood of about 1E-1(about 500 zeros) as conicidence.

In statistics, this is called significance.

Hence there is a statistical proof.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

that's fine if you believe it's public Knowledge, I will email N.A.S.A and the Government and ask them if they have such technology, I'm pretty sure they will say "No" and if they do that means it's either not real, or not public knowledge, in either case that shows that you are wrong.

[sacha4you]

I think, you have a wrong perception about, how knowledge is maintained on earth. Firstly, you need an appropriate education. (I graduated in electrical engineering) Then you need an idea about the underlying theory to get the right search term. If you google '+ESA +ARC +"Gravitomagentic London Moment"' - you'll get the right papers. If you google 'antigravity', then you'll find charlatans. Neither NASA, nor US govt, nor a university will deliver you knowledge upon request.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

and if you believe God exists, then prove it to me... you believing in God is not different than me Believing in UFO's so why is it so silly to believe in UFO's? there have been more eye witness accounts of seeing UFO's than God.

[sacha4you]

1982z28camaro, every government has the constitutional right to maintain national security by all means. Secrecy is a legitimate mean. Once again: UFO/ET topic IS

a matter of national security. I don't know, if Roswell took place or not. However I'd bet, in 2047 you can celebrate in dignity '100 years UFO cover up in America'. So I guess, Roswell NM will be overcrowded.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

Why is it that when something crashes in Roswell, the government can come and get it, it's NOT theirs, it landed on a farmers property, he should do with it as he pleases, the problem is, the government is a 6 year old kid playing in a sand box with another 6 year old kid, that finds something amazing, and doesn't want to share it with the other kid, because the kid feels special, that he has something that the other kid doesn't have. EVERYONE wants to have what other people don't have

[1981z28camaro]

it's human nature.

[r1970f]

There is only one truth. Think about it and decide!

[sacha4you]

r1970f, I hate to tell, but here you are definitivly wrong. Since Einstein we know, all is relative. This accounts for the word 'truth' too, particularly in politics, intelligence communities - and UFOlogy/conspiracytainment. Hence the meaning of the word truth changed from absolute to something, that can be described as someone's perception. Hence if I managed to manipulate your perception, I can made up a 'true world' for you. That's an every day tool of all politicians.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

The government covers up many things, you know this, and I know this.

[sacha4you]

Every government has the legal right to classify topics of national security. E.g. nobody ever complained about the fact, that USAF do not publish launch codes for nuclear missles - but is unhappy, UFO/ET topic is kept secret. Not, this has nothing to do with conspiracy, beacause secrecy is officially delared and verifyable by everybody, who can download official FOIA documents and has Adobe Acrobat Reader installed in his PC.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

well obviously, they arent going publish their launch codes, you cannot compare UFO's to Launch Codes, we don't need to know about Launch Codes, we NEED to know if we are in fact not alone in the universe, this is information that everyone should know, I'm not saying they should come out and be like, "We have alien technology, and it can destroy a planet" I'm just saying simply come out and say "Yes there is life elsewhere" I dont need them to, I know it's true anyways, but skeptics should know

[sacha4you]

1981z28camaro, answering the we-are-not-alone question does indeed harm nobody (religious fundamentalists excepted). However you can not admit ET presence on earth - without introduce them into our society. The implications of such a knowledge would cause

political, economical and social disruptions

in our current stage of development. I discussed this question also with a Zeta Reticulian (a benevolent guy!). He shared the same opinion. Note, this is unprovable first hand information. (ff)

[1981z28camaro]

Zeta Reticulian, lol

you know what man, you are right, we are the absolute pinnacle of all of space, it would be madness to think that we are not alone,

but answer me this, do you believe in God?

[sacha4you]

1981zz28camaro, I offerd you more information

upon personal request. There are reasons for. I'm not a Lizar, Fouche or Friedman. I can prove my claims, and I don't sell books.

It's a oportunity, you can take - or not.

However, it's a little bit irritating, you complain, that your govt ridicules the biological outcomes of a binary star system, located 39.4 ly from sun - but you do it the same. (You can LOL again, but travel time there takes you about 4 days with actual technology)

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

4 days to go there your saying with our technology? 39.4 ly that's a hoax, that means you would be going 3558 times the Speed of Light, which is simply retarded.

[sacha4you]

Well, we have start with the basics: Our universe does not consist of a 4 dim spacetime, but of 3652 hyperspaces HS (resulting from a nonlinear combination of 12 dimensions). Speed of light, c=3E8m/s is equal in all HS - but distances d are not. Hence, apparent c' is different from c. c'=c·n^2, where n=n-th discrete Heim HS n=1,2,3... Coulumb barrier rC decreases with

rC'=rC/n^2. A HS transition takes place in a magnetic field Bo+n·16T, where Bo=25T. A velocity of 1ly/day is easy to do.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

haha, if we could do 1 light Year a day, it would be all over the news

[sacha4you]

1981z28camaro, you will be surprised, but this

was indeed in the news in 2006. Of course in scientific news. The guys, who did the calculations with EHT won a price from AASA

(American aeronautic and space association).

A broader publication was not considered, since the topic is delicate.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

awesome, so when will they televise the next launch that goes 661,788,000 Miles per second? I can't wait to see that

[1981z28camaro]

your telling me that in 4 days we can travel 37 Light years?

[sacha4you]

Yes. The limit is the magnetic field strenght, human body can bear without haemoglobin is sucked out of your veins.

;-))

[sacha4you]

You can never travel with v > c. Limit is c; or c' to be exact. Hyperspace-concept is comparable with a universe seen as onion shells. Our spacetime n=1 is the outermost shell. A trip to opposite position takes you d=r·PI. A HS transit drives you in/outward of the onion. Along an inner shell, r and d are much smaller. A sublight speed along an inner shell appears to an outward observer as heavily superluminal. E.g. you read 10 miles on your mileage counter, but did in fact 1'000'000.

;-))

[jedipauly]

Aliens from outer space are a threat to government,bankers,military. They are not a threat to the people. They represent total freedom. This is a threat to the slave masters of earth. Imagine if you could leave earth and live free from their control. Imagine no money just unlimited free energy converted to all your needs: food, heat,transport,etc. Imagine living hundreds of years young and free of sickness. This is what your masters don't want you to know. They fear losing their control over you

[DaaYay]

Couldn't of said it better myself jedipauly!

[sacha4you]

Jedipaudy, I don't agree. ETs are not only a threat to elite of our society, but for humanity in its wholeness. Imagine, if ETs indeed brought infinite energy and relief from economic pressure: Earth overpopulated

in a short time. Humanity extincted itself in cruel fights for resources. How to avoid such a situation: Keep things secret. Sounds familiar? isn't it? ;-))

[jedipauly]

Negative, you logic is flawed. There are infinite resources in space. There are countless worlds to inhabit, relieving overcrowding. You are inventing problems that have already been solved.

[sacha4you]

Jedipauly, If a were an ET visitor and I gave primitive type 0 civil humans means for interstellar space travel, I had to fear, they even destroyed my planet and started wars around planets in a manner G.W. Bush did it in Iraq. You'll be suprised, but I have first hand information from an american mother, that at least one alien species share

that opinion and quoted an unsuccessful communication attemt (the family paniced) with the words "Act in bizarre & irrational behaviour" on 1.1.2008. ;-))

[jedipauly]

Yes, I agree with you that most humans are not fit to be among our galactic brothers and sisters. We are far more of a threat to them than they are to us. That was kind of my point in my first comment. Some humans, a few, are ready to leave earth and be responsible galactic citizens though. If you are able to get all the things that you need for survival and healthy living, with nature, then why do you need money, greed, war, fear? No greed or fear or war = peace and no threat to anyone.

[sacha4you]

jedipauly, I think, now we've found the consensus. Humanity must evolve to an extent

that not 5% are ready, but 95% or so. Things like wars, corruption, rasism, egocentrism, etc. are typical attributes of (our) type 0 civil. I guess, this might take us at least 300 years. Until that we have to live with secrecy. ;-))

[jedipauly]

We do not have 300 years. Without new technology that is being kept "secret" as you say, we may well be extinct in 100 years. The masters have this technology, and just want to keep us enslaved. Why is it ok for them to have this technology and not you and me? Also, Mankind will not change in 300 years anyway if it is kept secret. There must be a reason to change. That is why we must be told the truth so mankind has a reason to work toward changing. No more secrets or slavery!

[sacha4you]

jedipauly, delicate technologies I told about (e.g. direct mass-enegy conversion) are kept secret because it's really too dangerous for human use. We already have new, safe and pollution free energy sources everyone could build, but people are too lazy to even learn a little bit about to build it. E.g. google for +Sandia +"Linear transformer driver". All

design basics and models are there. Ignorance

of people - and not slavery - pollutes air and

allows big oil to make big business.

;-()

[1981z28camaro]

wow, how many videos do you comment on? lol

How do you KNOW that E.T's are a threat to Society, I would remain neutral about that, and not conceed that you KNOW, I dont' say I KNOW they are Good, I believe they wouldnt harm us, but I could be wrong, because I don't conceed that I KNOW what they would be like. They could destroy this miserable planet, or they could save us, I don't know and you don't know, one thing is I know they exist, because I have seen a UFO. and I'm not an Idiot

[1981z28camaro]

When you see a Black Triangle hover 100 feet above you, and not move an inch or make a sound, there is no explanation for it, and Resonable Doubt, and knowing that I did not Hallucinate that, I KNOW it was a UFO, me seeing that is evidence enough for me, to prove (IN MY MIND) that they do exist, wether or not you believe in UFO's from what I have just said, I don't really care, if you believe me good, if you don't fine, doesnt bother me, although you would either be saying, I'm dumb, or a liar.

[1981z28camaro]

and I'm neither

[sacha4you]

(1/2) So if you don't want to risk to be blown up by a 300 gigaton hyperspace fusion H-bomb, built by a terrorist on his kitchen table, I'd guess, you supported UFO/ET secrecy. (This is NOT a joke. Write a personal message if you want to know more) The next question deals around proofs. A scientific proof is accessible, reproducible and verifyable. Personal experiences or testimonies belong not to this category. No matters, if you saw a weird craft - or an ET tells me all about ...

[sacha4you]

(2/2) ...multidimensional quantum physics and

design basics about microwave plasma vacuum generators (that what makes UFOs glow and allow atmospheric travel without air drag and hyperspace transitions within atmosphere) In the first case, you could have seen a USAF vehicule - and I could have got my knowledge from a physical theory called EHT (Extended Heim Theory). However, I one managed to bring an EBE in front of a CNN news cam [they would decline it!] you had a hard proof.

;-))

[sacha4you]

1981z28camaro, I've found, YT is the best discussion platform you can imagine. You can meet all kind of people - even such, that are guests on our planet. (Not a joke!)

You mentioned two questions. Cover up policy

is not my invention, but a broad consensus in political science. (E.g. read Johnston-report

to get all pros and cons, more details from US FOIA docs about UFOs) In a nutshell: High density energy sources - as used by ET's - are definitivly incompatible with things like terrorism.

[1981z28camaro]

I have no idea what your talking about, I didn't say anything about the Cover up policy not being your invention.

but OBVIOUSLY, (IF) The government does have Alien Technology, which they do,(they wouldnt tell people) I use reasonable doubt when Examining People such as Bob Lazar, his story has never changed, he has evidence he worked there, he offered to take a lie detector test, and he's owner of United Nuclear, he's not some bum from detroit, and changes his story all the time.

[sacha4you]

Well, it were not a bad thing, if you understood a little bit about physics. If you don't understand something, write a personal message. I'll explain you.

If I have access to probably alien technology, I'd shyly guess, biggest superpower in the world had even better. However forget the Bob Lazar story. This is a hoax, and what he told is pure babble. (It's simply physicly wrong!).

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

your not a very good judge of character are you? Examine his body language, and how he's describing things, keep in mind he's putting things into Laymen's terms, He Owns UNITED NUCLEAR, honestly do you think someone is going to risk looking like a freak when they are obviously smart people,, do you think you could start a Company like United Nuclear?

[sacha4you]

I don't judge characters. I judge, when somebody tells me '..UUP (element 115)bombarded by a proton shows a beta+ (positron) deacy...', as Lazar did. UUP has a uranim decay line. No positrons, no antimatter, no UUP-driven Area51-UFOs. Or, when he claims '...gravity is a wave, not a particle...', everbody with even high school physics can see, the guy did not get a spoon ful of quantum physics. Lizar is a convicted criminal, triple-w unitednuclear com is a hobby and school supplier.

;-))

[1981z28camaro]

he's not saying our gravity is a wave, I guess one could Hypothesis that it is, doing experiments, but what he's saying is the Crafts use Gravity waves, meaning it doesn't necessarily follow the laws of physics of Earth. just because it's the way it is here, doesn't mean it's the same elsewhere

[sacha4you]

We have one thing, that's the same in whole universe, because universe was born from a singularity: Laws of physics. Hence, there are

no different physics. No matter, how many laws a civilisation has discovered. Yes, there is a link between, gravity & electromagnetism - but not in our 4D-spacetime. Messenger-particles (quanta) are - what surprise - gravitophotons. And they do exactly what they should. (At least in my lab). So Lizar's babble may sound impressive but it's simply wrong.

;-))

[nikolayzou]

@jedipauly I will have to agree with you. Governments are very scared and try very hard lying and confusing the people. The information age will free us all.

[DownInDeDew]

thats because the press doesnt consider this to be important. in fact most of them dont believe it

[Reynaldo44]

The press pay more attention if a mediocre actor or singer get caught with mariguana, than these important issues, shame on them.

[Migg83]

Absoluty F*ckin' Right! Not a single one in my entire family believe's me, when i tell them about all the documentary's and article's and personal confessions of various (credible) persons. I guess it's easier to do it of like a bunch of bull...

[DaaYay]

The press is controlled by the Government! Everything they say or show will have an effect on the wiewer distorting your own judgement, so they basically put what they want you to beleive! DON'T!

[jedipauly]

You are correct, actually most of the media conglomerates are owned or controlled by the military through their contracts with industries that the military owns that in turn own the media conglomerates. It is a sophisticated hide and deny shell company game. General electric owns much of the media. Over the last 10 or 15 years media has been consolidated and controlled by military. There are many books out on this.

[netwaggie]

How many people have to come forward before we finally admit there's something out there? Where is the press on this? A few stories post this conference, but that is it. Any other subject would get full worldwide coverage!

[jcfractal]

Lary King is finally doing stories on this, he might be the one media person who could finally push this to the masses. Critical mass could be soon on this topic.

[netwaggie]

Larry King is a start, though I'm not sure how many watch that wizened old raisin. I'd like to see Out of the Blue put on a major network during Prime Time, or have this kind of stuff make the national news (not a 2 minute blurb about yokels who see a UFO). It's insane that normal people see these things and get ridiculed for it.

[DerFreieMensch]

@netwaggie.

oh sure hundreds of years ago the world was a plate, a flatt thing......

now that our knowledge is much bigger and we know there are billions of galaxies out there we are the only planet with life on it.

are you that stupid.

i clearly can say i dont know if other species would come to us, why should they?

but to say there is nothing out there is just pure stupid ignoracy.

and if you dont believe in sience. take please all your cloth off, leave your home and pray to god... BAKA

[JRCrowley]

Keep your eyes on the skies.

[dynodonfb7]

We need to have more of these....maybe then then people won't be ashamed to admit that something is out there. I don't believe in hollow mountains or anything like that. Though I saw roughly a 300 ft - 400 ft unidentifed object at roughly 1000 ft.

[firefei87]

Okay everyone needs to send this out to everyone

[nikovich]

finally ! thankyou :-)