like i said in another video, in an open space ring nothing can stand in front of an taekwon, no other fighting style has any chance whatsoever other then taekwon. I'd say average taekwon can KO any other martial arts masters :D ...
@813Geane he said he called it MMA to get more views lol. TKD is not that bad-the head kicks are useful and in ITF they're allowed to punch. It's still a bit of an incomplete style though
great fight. look into setting up your kicks with punches... that throws off the guys guard and then you follow through with the kicks. but good matches.
These "kickboxers" need to fire they're instructors because i never saw one decent kick or one decent punch a horrible display well done to the TKD guy for making a fool of them right enough
@ronki23 Yes, but those are all full contact karate unions, and not kickboxing unions. It's only this year WAKO has finally seen the light and started kickboxing competitions under the name of Wako Pro. Hence why this is mislabeled. Kickboxing is the Dutch/Japanese form, which pretty much has nothing to do with full contact karate whatsoever.
Actually, if you try fighting that, people will say "thank you" and blow you away with lowkick counters all the time.
@Blahb27 ? head kicks hurt/can cause a knockout dude-if that's what you were talking about anyway. IKF does above and below the waist-isn't that a kickboxing organisation? WKA and ISKA also have a K-1 or Muay Thai section but not in every competition. I think kick-light, low kick and k-1 are only in the international qualifiers/world championships, NOT the ones done so many months (which is only semi contact, light continuos,kata/forms and weapons). Anyway, I don't do this anymore-i'm into Judo
@Blahb27 wait a minute, isn't K-1 ISKA and Rob Kaman was WKA World Champ? I know WAKO/WKA/ISKA do MMA now and K-1 rules in some comps. Is IKF a kickboxing org or karate?
@ronki23 IKF calls kickboxing 'modified muai thai'. As a rule of the thumb, anything from the US calls full contact karate kickboxing, and calls kickboxing and muai thai, muai thai. The K1 is a completely independant promotor who made their own rules, much like It's Showtime has It's Showtime rules (K1 rules, but no spinning backfist)
The rest of the world talks of kickboxing, muai thai only for full muai thai rules fights, and full contact or full contact karate to distinguish them better.
@Blahb27 ahh-thanks for clearing that up. Although i'm SURE I saw ISKA talking about insurance for K-1. Wasn't Rob Kaman a WKA World Champ before Dutch? I want to fight in IKF and WKA for MMA-apart from Zuffa and Dream they have most recognition. There's ISKA as well but I didn't like the way ISKA judged competitions. I'm currently doing Judo under IJF (BJA as i'm UK). I gave up kickboxing because nobody taught me how to handle face/rib attacks/I kept turning away :(
Bullshit. WTF TKD is for show only, little pussy kicks with a lot of gear.. ITF TKD is very aggressive and very hard to learn. Also we don't wear headgear, I think they're using it here because they don't both practice TKD.
I love the light contact but in this video looks like semi ultra light contact hahha.... they all look like they can hit a lot harder and faster....anyways....love for ITF , great control
@b68dv Most perhaps yeah, particularly WTF-style fighters as the focus is almost solely on kicking. However, ITF practitioners aren't too shabby in competition. All you have to do is do a bit of Kickboxing or something at the same time to make you a more well-rounded combatant.
The side kick is the key it stops the attack and hurts then it gets the opponent on the back foot good precision kicks though some more combo kicks would have fiished his oponents a lot earlier as they had nothing much going forward apart from some punches
For all you retards that judge a martial artists ability to fight on competition sparring are obviously very narrow minded and ignorant. If you are the type of low life gutter trash that goes round starting fights in the street and expects a tkd practitioner to fight you in this way; well let's just say you will have a very different view of things when you go face first into the floor. If your a true martial artist you wouldn't go round with such an attitude towards other martial arts or there
This is NOT TKD Vs MMA ! TKD is for kids and ladies to get fit not to fight.......Go and see a TKD Black spar a MMA/BJJ white belt and it's really clear...
@FerryBot3000 many top level world champions in UFC have TKD black belts, and actually use those techniques in the ring. I have seen these guys beat BJJ black belts, let along beginners.
very nice, he is from ITF Taekwon-do and they use straight punches to the face in their competitions, it's just WTF Taekwon-do that is solely kicking in competitions.
Great example here of the precision and speed in Taekwondo. He picked his shots very accurately and struck with great force by the looks of it. All around great fighter!
@DiiVx1 see this is full contact tkd sparring it isnt just tkd sparring tkd sparring can use punches but only to the chest not the face. but in full contact sparring you can
@tmakidd0703 it's true that itf taekwondo lacks boxing compared to boxers... but it's not like muay thai or kickboxing practicitioners have better boxing either. But overall Muay thai still has the upper hand if it's in muay thai rules cause they know how to use their knees and elbows too.
@thefreed well yes and no tkd does teach you how to use your elbows hands knees and feet. it is just tkd's main weapon is a kick. yes if you put a tkd up against a boxer and all you can use is punches yes the tkd fighter will lose but same goes for a boxer wit kicks. it also depends on how far a person wants to take their martial arts and the fight itself. i have fought against muay thai and i take tkd and i have won. it just depends on the training u get if you have any other questions just ask
@YinYanTiger its not supposed to be an art or have a philosophy,its a sport fighting ruleset,thats what it claims to be.Any style thats not aggressive is useless.
@YinYanTiger I agree with you MMA is useless because they don't spend the time building the indivual muscles that any of the striking arts do so it will take you 20 years to get good and strong. Yeah I've met a lot of kids on the street who laugh and say MMA is the best, but its... Really bad. No principles mean you are basically training people to be jerks and murders our society doesn't need that.
This Video should really read " Blackbelt TKD Vs idiots. Im a MMA fighter and not one of the opponents showed an ounce of technique nor strategy. Way to make TKD look invinsible. Go into an MMA gym and et a real match ppl. Things like this make me sick. comments??? email me tccsheb@yahoo.com
I feel people that train kickboxing are always so rude because of their muscles -.-...i hate them..just want to kick their gut out..(that's just what i feel)
@WeI1994 not all kickboxers are like that, I am a karate guy and I am never like that being a jerk in martial arts will get you killed, jumped by an entire school and beaten or stabbed to death and if you are too good they shoot you. Martial arts are like gang warfare for crying out loud. Karate is only good when it is never used or you are in a life or death situation.
It might work here, but if those guys could grab him it'd be all over the moment one of them got inside his guard (which is terrible, his hands are always down).
I do Tae Kwon Do and I must say that although the TKD is pwning in theory, his technique is kind of sloppy. Notice he continues to do the exact same kick over and over again, which if the MMA guy knew better, he'd wait for him to repeat the technique and counter.
@letbonist not only that but he uses only his right foot?!?!with a blackbelt he should be able to give kicks with both legs equally, like they do in olympics in wtf, also if he is an itf'er why is he wearing head-protection?!
well, it's not un-effective what he's doing, it's actually annoying to go against someone that's really good using one of their feet. I'm sure he can pull off different kicks with his other foot too, but was prolly not worth it when he could do it like he did. wtf is a completely different sport since they seldom use their arms.
well, weaing headgear depends on where you train and how the rules are decided. Here, where I live, we often use headgear just for protection, but we also go sparring without it, we're doing both. And i've seen the same in many other countries too, it's not only here i live that we use headgear sometimes.
@mr1ah It looks like a point sparring style match. In point sparring, there is no grabbing or holding. The point of point sparring is NOT to beat the snot out of your opponent, but to use proper technique (open/closing stances, countering, etc) to out-score your opponent.
The TKD guys have excellent balance and form and the Boxers are very smart and look very strong.
Its just hard trying to get on the inside of a kicker because of the range difference and its much tougher trying to match kicks for kicks with a person who can spam the 8 angles.
understanding that you need to get inside so he cant use his kicks and actually getting inside so he cant use his kicks are 2 different things. Its easy to say hard to do.
cool vid ... props to all fighters. i like how the kickboxer starts to figure out what the tkd kid is doing around 2:00 into the vid ... and the guy after that in white is pretty good
rubbish kickboxers in front of this TKD fghter, very poor boxing technique, i bet they are just junior kickboxers. just be closer to this TKD and her wont be able to through anything, cause obviously he's using his legs more than hand, and since he got poor hands or boxing technique, you can easily beat him.
@ramilaser ITF guy DO know how to use their hand but he didn't needed them since he was able to keep the kickboxer at a longer range so he could use his kicks more easyly, unlike WTF taekwon do who aren't allowed to use punch to the head
Good grief... is there no competent kickboxing to fight the TKD guy at all? Stop running away for crying out loud. Close that distance and deliver a knee damnit.
On many instances the TKD fighter is hopping on one foot (e.g. in the beginning of the video or at around 1:26) - that's a hard feat to pull in MMA since this invites either a takedown, either a trip (kick) or a leg kick.
I have tremendous respect for TKD fighters, coming from a 'TKD family' myself. That being said, pitting a TKD fighter against sub-par kickboxers and stating this video is "ITF Taekwon-Do vs Kickboxing MMA" is misleading and false, especially if leg kicks aren't involved.
@eayottes TKD and Karate favor low kicks in a street fight: groin, knees, and thigh are the main targets in that order for kicking in a street fight for any legit Karateka and TKD guy. Further, MMA is a sport. Also, Muay Thai loves to have a light front foot to load the back. Look at Shogun Rua or any other partially classical Mauy Thai fighter.
@wiggalama: I am aware that MMA is a sport, nothing in my posts contradicted that. I am also aware that MT fighters sometimes have a light lead foot; that being said, they can still check leg kicks. I'm a huge Mauricio Rua fan...
That hopping stuff is weak. If you're going to kick, kick with power and force. This is almost an embarassment. Looks like some McDojo sparring with baby touches instead of strong kicking.
It's what you call 'semi-contact continuous sparring' rules, NOT full contact. The whole point is to hit the opponent to score points with about 50% power. People are allowed to fight under different rules y'know, not everyone has to do full contact or Muay Thai, or whatever.
True! but thats if TKD lands with a heel, shin, to the face or stomach. other then that the kicks don't do much damage to arms or legs to wear the opponent down.
thats not true,super fast shots with no bodyweight are just taps,called arm punches in boxing.The technique is what adds the mass.Theres a very small room for improvement in speed but only the best use mass properly
my base discipline is tkd, i grew up between mex gangs and surf rats in socal and got into many street fights of which i never started, all bigger than me, me 5-8 & 150lbs, never lost a fight in my life. my kicks saved me, knocked them out or to the ground. my fists helped too, but kicks led the fight. fought all types all styles in the street. bruised but never lost. tkd in the street kept me healthy. a lot of what you see in ufc (ground) not very practical in the street. from experience
I would have liked to see how TKD fares against people who go to the ground. While TKD has more "surgeon" like kicks which go for accuracy over kickboxing's power, if the TKD guy isn't quick enough on the pull back, someone's just going to leg grab and take him down.
that goes for any stand up art that applies kicks. of course if a experienced grappler fights a TKD fighter with little experience in grappling the fight will end quickly if it goes to the ground, but that's not how mma is. most fighters have multiple styles, and at least a standup and a ground style. cung le is TKD fighter, and he has wrestling and some BJJ as well. he has been very successful in mma having been crowned middleweight strikeforce champion at one time.
sanshou and TKD are the basis of his fighting style. he uses both, but he has even said in interviews that he uses TKD. the main element of sanshou in his fighting is his throws. he primarily used TKD kicks for striking.
he uses kicks that happen to be in evry style of striking,what makes him good apart from talent is the full contact sparring and wrestling background,neither of which have anything to do with tkd
well, i've read about cung le saying that TKD is a strong basis of his fighting style, and i've heard him in interviews mention it as well. he is a TKD blackbelt. yes his full contact sparring is what makes him a good fighter, but his TKD background does have something to do with it. just because many TKD schools do not do full contact, doesn't mean its techniques cannot be transferred to it. let's face it, cung is a mixed martial artist. he is trained in several discplines. thats why he's good
No, he is doing Taekwondo, it's just ITF version which means it's more of a fighting style then the WTF branch which is sport. ITF is a pretty legit stand up style, there's really no BS thrown in, i've seen many kickboxers put on their butt from ITF, mostly the sidekick. And Sanshou took many moves from ITF Taekwondo, pretty much any kick you have to chamber, like the sidekick, it's of Korean orgin, Korea started the "chambering" of kicking. Look up Taekkyun, it's the first Taekwondo.
Uhh, I didn't know you were talking about Cung Le, I thought you were talking about the guy in the video, and yeah, Cung Le uses Sanda (Sanshou) and he is a black belt in Taekwondo, which i've seen alot of his kicks from. He does Sanda, but his Taekwondo training definatly didn't make his kicks any worse LOL
please tell me there was more to these fights then what was shown. the fighter featured might have, possibly, sort of, known what he was doing but he is asking to get his KTFO. The rest were, literally, horrible. the first two basically walked into range and swung. the second stood with half his back to the opponent... that this could be called fighting makes my soul hurt.
muay thai doesn't fly in the street too now a days.... a "real" street fight doesn't consist of fighters with martial arts in the street... it consists of drunken, or high in drug people with knives or beer bottles, gangs of friends and sometimes guns... please... no martial art would "fly" in the streets... there are no style in the street u fly by.
what do u mean by "fly"? there r plenty of people who use martial arts to fight in the street. and they fight against guys with knives, guns, granades and everything under the sun.
I have trained with and talked to serveral special forces guys and police officers who have done this very thing.
actually, it is technically mma. mma stands for mixed martial arts, wka tournements have karate, kickboxing, tai boxing, taekwon-do and probbly others. the fact is that it is a mix of martial artist, so it is mma.
uh how can i put thin ... yes. pro mma fighters in general dont kick very fast. kung li is one of the fastest pro kickers i've seen, but he still isnt exactly lightning. try watching ri choi nam or something, cause he's very quick
mma would dominate tkd so bad if everything was allowed u see the way the tkd dude kicks? he keeps his leg up! all u need to do is grap it and kick his other leg! then u got him on the ground! and then it is ground and pound time! easy cake!
i've faught in a tournement where grabs and sweeps and all that is allowed. its not rocket science to know that when i kick i should slide in, kick and put my foot down. plus i found that i kick too quickly for anyone to grab, plus its really easy to throw a little extra hip power and stretch it high to knock em sideways.
mma would probably win in the cage where mma is designed, but in tkd rules you lose horribly.
no one is saying mr paterson is ultimate amazitude. im also PUMA and my brother, who has no interest in sparring has beating mr paterson in a tournement no problem. but he is still a very good sparrer.
ok so what u people are saying no matter how much tkd wins there all going to be fixed fight your saying in no possiblescenario tkd will ever win u guys have never tried tkd
This is why "traditional" fight tournaments are gay. Its about points. You can get points if you just touch your fist or foot to a strike zone. It doesn't matter if anyone get hurt. Its not practical. Those kickboxers didn't look very skilled and in a real fight you leave your leg out like that someone will grab it and slam you on your head.
that kickboxer is a bad representative to both kickboxing and mma. so, you cant really say much based on kickboxing as a whole. based on this fight, yes you can say that kickboxing is not practical. but that would be a lie. in truth, kickboxing can is equal to or greater than tkd
What mma?
wqsid 6 days ago
CAN SOMEONE TELL US THE NAME OF THE FREAKING SONG PLEASE?
cowbellmooh 4 weeks ago
like i said in another video, in an open space ring nothing can stand in front of an taekwon, no other fighting style has any chance whatsoever other then taekwon. I'd say average taekwon can KO any other martial arts masters :D ...
In a "classic ring" taekwon is helpless ...
MrCyraaxz 1 month ago
Как песня называется? Music?
rossolv12 1 month ago
name music?? plis
natanITF 1 month ago
Very Very Awsome!!!!
salskyline 1 month ago
set up fight so tae kwon do looks good..Put some real good kick boxng fighters and that ballet dancer will be gone
mmilos11 2 months ago
No offense the kick boxers sucked they staid back for his kicks should of went in and kept its a close range fight
devin2482 2 months ago 2
he would rule the tkd world. but die in the cage. idk i only see tkd no mma what so ever
813Geane 4 months ago
@813Geane he said he called it MMA to get more views lol. TKD is not that bad-the head kicks are useful and in ITF they're allowed to punch. It's still a bit of an incomplete style though
ronki23 3 months ago
@ronki23 Not tkd kicks. they kick with the foot. more like thai kicks. straight shin and power not lil snap kicks for speed
813Geane 3 months ago
music track is not the topic)
Storn1920 4 months ago
That´s great man! ITF is the original Taekwondo and best martial art of the world!
williamangeles 4 months ago
great fight. look into setting up your kicks with punches... that throws off the guys guard and then you follow through with the kicks. but good matches.
SenseiGrove 4 months ago
Traditional Korean Tae Kwon Do Rocks!!!
Tkdkid9 5 months ago
That lead leg side kick is a useful tool. It's like a boxer's jab
SOCOMSoldier01 5 months ago
These "kickboxers" need to fire they're instructors because i never saw one decent kick or one decent punch a horrible display well done to the TKD guy for making a fool of them right enough
BrianMc1990 6 months ago 2
he would have lost at full contact. of course tkd will win if they´re not using their weight to punch and kick
jougetsu 7 months ago
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@jougetsu Watch the other video on his page.
jinglebearr 6 months ago
This is mislabeled. The guys he's fighting are obviously from full contact karate, and not from kickboxing.
Blahb27 7 months ago
@Blahb27 it's a WKA competition I think-most comps under WKA/WAKO/ISKA banner do above the waist kicks in light continuos (which this is)
ronki23 3 months ago
@ronki23 Yes, but those are all full contact karate unions, and not kickboxing unions. It's only this year WAKO has finally seen the light and started kickboxing competitions under the name of Wako Pro. Hence why this is mislabeled. Kickboxing is the Dutch/Japanese form, which pretty much has nothing to do with full contact karate whatsoever.
Actually, if you try fighting that, people will say "thank you" and blow you away with lowkick counters all the time.
Blahb27 3 months ago
@Blahb27 ? head kicks hurt/can cause a knockout dude-if that's what you were talking about anyway. IKF does above and below the waist-isn't that a kickboxing organisation? WKA and ISKA also have a K-1 or Muay Thai section but not in every competition. I think kick-light, low kick and k-1 are only in the international qualifiers/world championships, NOT the ones done so many months (which is only semi contact, light continuos,kata/forms and weapons). Anyway, I don't do this anymore-i'm into Judo
ronki23 3 months ago
@Blahb27 wait a minute, isn't K-1 ISKA and Rob Kaman was WKA World Champ? I know WAKO/WKA/ISKA do MMA now and K-1 rules in some comps. Is IKF a kickboxing org or karate?
ronki23 3 months ago
@ronki23 IKF calls kickboxing 'modified muai thai'. As a rule of the thumb, anything from the US calls full contact karate kickboxing, and calls kickboxing and muai thai, muai thai. The K1 is a completely independant promotor who made their own rules, much like It's Showtime has It's Showtime rules (K1 rules, but no spinning backfist)
The rest of the world talks of kickboxing, muai thai only for full muai thai rules fights, and full contact or full contact karate to distinguish them better.
Blahb27 3 months ago
@Blahb27 ahh-thanks for clearing that up. Although i'm SURE I saw ISKA talking about insurance for K-1. Wasn't Rob Kaman a WKA World Champ before Dutch? I want to fight in IKF and WKA for MMA-apart from Zuffa and Dream they have most recognition. There's ISKA as well but I didn't like the way ISKA judged competitions. I'm currently doing Judo under IJF (BJA as i'm UK). I gave up kickboxing because nobody taught me how to handle face/rib attacks/I kept turning away :(
ronki23 3 months ago
i want to fight the tae kwon do guy
TheEfyou 7 months ago in playlist tae kwon do / boxing / training & sparring mma
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that is no kickboxing nor is that guy a fighter.
tkd is for show only :P
cdcdcd6777 8 months ago
that is no kickboxing nor is that guy a fighter.
tkd is for show only :P
cdcdcd6777 8 months ago
@cdcdcd6777
Bullshit. WTF TKD is for show only, little pussy kicks with a lot of gear.. ITF TKD is very aggressive and very hard to learn. Also we don't wear headgear, I think they're using it here because they don't both practice TKD.
ArisingPicturez 6 months ago
muy bueno!!!
ZARGAID 8 months ago
Now thats what I call ITF BABY!!!
YEAAAAH! TAEKWOOOOOOON!
Jav1ertkd 8 months ago 2
cool video.....gay music
666hellraiser1 8 months ago
I love the light contact but in this video looks like semi ultra light contact hahha.... they all look like they can hit a lot harder and faster....anyways....love for ITF , great control
uncabro 9 months ago
This is interesting and all, but i don't see the kickboxing....
Osirisrules 9 months ago 2
@Osirisrules Neither do i, all i see is a TKD guy fighting some joe schmo.
kintle182 8 months ago
@b68dv Most perhaps yeah, particularly WTF-style fighters as the focus is almost solely on kicking. However, ITF practitioners aren't too shabby in competition. All you have to do is do a bit of Kickboxing or something at the same time to make you a more well-rounded combatant.
ryant7889 9 months ago
I think that kick @ 0:59 is a front leg hook kick. Some1 correct me if I'm wrong.
ApollosInsight 9 months ago
@ApollosInsight you are correct
Tovash 9 months ago
@ApollosInsight perfectly right my friend :)
z1en 9 months ago
this isnt mma..
CebuMoose7 10 months ago
nice spinnig heel to the head
Mrceralman 10 months ago
hey wats the song?
kwameroker69 11 months ago
The side kick is the key it stops the attack and hurts then it gets the opponent on the back foot good precision kicks though some more combo kicks would have fiished his oponents a lot earlier as they had nothing much going forward apart from some punches
psychojock 1 year ago
For all you retards that judge a martial artists ability to fight on competition sparring are obviously very narrow minded and ignorant. If you are the type of low life gutter trash that goes round starting fights in the street and expects a tkd practitioner to fight you in this way; well let's just say you will have a very different view of things when you go face first into the floor. If your a true martial artist you wouldn't go round with such an attitude towards other martial arts or there
roberto19811981 1 year ago
What about Tae-bo, Zumba and Boxercise ? WTF TKD....lol brilliant.
FerryBot3000 1 year ago
this doesn't look like MMA at all...
SmokeyCough 1 year ago
This is NOT TKD Vs MMA ! TKD is for kids and ladies to get fit not to fight.......Go and see a TKD Black spar a MMA/BJJ white belt and it's really clear...
FerryBot3000 1 year ago
@FerryBot3000 many top level world champions in UFC have TKD black belts, and actually use those techniques in the ring. I have seen these guys beat BJJ black belts, let along beginners.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@FerryBot3000 ITF TKD is for Fighting AND to stay fit. Fighter > style........traditional > sport
megamanxdeath 10 months ago
wow tkd is so great. why dont they do ufc and mma. oh wait, bc they will get ko-ed!
iamundergrace 1 year ago
@iamundergrace many fighters in the UFC have TKD backgrounds.
for the record: muhammad ali trained in taekwondo and claimed it to have enhanced his punching.
mixed8martial9artist 1 year ago
@mixed8martial9artist He did and Bruce Lee had a 2nd degree BB in TKD.
Easyandy100 10 months ago
the size advantage on tkd guy is just 2 much
mastuerzo90210 1 year ago
@b68dv ya, because most taekwondo practitioners are in the WTF.
Don123q 1 year ago
@Don123q Ohh come on... I'm in WTF and i know how to punch... but i plan to study ITF style... Just after my new Dobuk is done...
ChrisWindyBoy 1 year ago
@ChrisWindyBoy I'm just stating the fact that ITF practitioners punch more...
Don123q 1 year ago
very nice, he is from ITF Taekwon-do and they use straight punches to the face in their competitions, it's just WTF Taekwon-do that is solely kicking in competitions.
rauldeva 1 year ago
Great example here of the precision and speed in Taekwondo. He picked his shots very accurately and struck with great force by the looks of it. All around great fighter!
phrozen44 1 year ago
this is why i love ITF taekwondo, the practitioners know how to kick and punch! Good job! :D
Don123q 1 year ago
Your taekwondo is strong. None of your opponents could get an angle on you.
TransAmFSAS 1 year ago
@DiiVx1 true true true.....but ya i love to use my hands it works tho!!!
tmakidd0703 1 year ago
Seems like a lot of those guys try to out-kick him. They probably should've closed in and just straight boxed him.
wutduuwnt 1 year ago
@DiiVx1 see this is full contact tkd sparring it isnt just tkd sparring tkd sparring can use punches but only to the chest not the face. but in full contact sparring you can
tmakidd0703 1 year ago
@tmakidd0703 it's true that itf taekwondo lacks boxing compared to boxers... but it's not like muay thai or kickboxing practicitioners have better boxing either. But overall Muay thai still has the upper hand if it's in muay thai rules cause they know how to use their knees and elbows too.
thefreed 1 year ago
@thefreed well yes and no tkd does teach you how to use your elbows hands knees and feet. it is just tkd's main weapon is a kick. yes if you put a tkd up against a boxer and all you can use is punches yes the tkd fighter will lose but same goes for a boxer wit kicks. it also depends on how far a person wants to take their martial arts and the fight itself. i have fought against muay thai and i take tkd and i have won. it just depends on the training u get if you have any other questions just ask
tmakidd0703 1 year ago
0:54 nice ^^
HarstyleHardcore 1 year ago
Hey, I do taekwondo and love it but i dont believe MMA is usless. Its the fighter, not the art. Anything can be effective, depending how you use it.
LtActionCam 1 year ago
@LtActionCam NAh. Most Sports fighters aren't very good in self defense or fighting street style.
I mean they will put up a fight against the average man but it wont be pretty.
While a self defense fighter is more used to being more aggressive and evasive and wont be used to keeping points or being restricted.
It is always the fighter, but how the fighter learns to fight is also another factor. Most MMA fighters today have never been in a real fight before.
hazza3 1 year ago
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YinYanTiger 1 year ago
@YinYanTiger its not supposed to be an art or have a philosophy,its a sport fighting ruleset,thats what it claims to be.Any style thats not aggressive is useless.
billysue2 1 year ago
@YinYanTiger I agree with you MMA is useless because they don't spend the time building the indivual muscles that any of the striking arts do so it will take you 20 years to get good and strong. Yeah I've met a lot of kids on the street who laugh and say MMA is the best, but its... Really bad. No principles mean you are basically training people to be jerks and murders our society doesn't need that.
AurumenK 1 year ago
This Video should really read " Blackbelt TKD Vs idiots. Im a MMA fighter and not one of the opponents showed an ounce of technique nor strategy. Way to make TKD look invinsible. Go into an MMA gym and et a real match ppl. Things like this make me sick. comments??? email me tccsheb@yahoo.com
alexa53081 1 year ago
@alexa53081 The title is wrong,, this aint mma this is WAKO kickboxing.
If there were people who did mma the would land good punches and not those sissy punches
zaidje 1 year ago
This video should really say: "ITF Taekwon-Do Student vs Kickboxing MMA Student (stand up) - Adam Paterson
MrMikeSam 1 year ago
I feel people that train kickboxing are always so rude because of their muscles -.-...i hate them..just want to kick their gut out..(that's just what i feel)
WeI1994 1 year ago
@WeI1994 no,what you mean is that you feel that way about lads who post on youtube,they are mostly useless beginners and wanabees.
billysue2 1 year ago
@WeI1994 not all kickboxers are like that, I am a karate guy and I am never like that being a jerk in martial arts will get you killed, jumped by an entire school and beaten or stabbed to death and if you are too good they shoot you. Martial arts are like gang warfare for crying out loud. Karate is only good when it is never used or you are in a life or death situation.
AurumenK 1 year ago
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@WeI1994 Very true..... We should all "kick their gut out"
FerryBot3000 1 year ago
I hate kickboxig
1masaniello 1 year ago
is he even MMA fighters? kinda weak for one =_=
stichsmart 1 year ago
It might work here, but if those guys could grab him it'd be all over the moment one of them got inside his guard (which is terrible, his hands are always down).
the0tobes0machine 1 year ago
I do Tae Kwon Do and I must say that although the TKD is pwning in theory, his technique is kind of sloppy. Notice he continues to do the exact same kick over and over again, which if the MMA guy knew better, he'd wait for him to repeat the technique and counter.
letbonist 1 year ago
@letbonist not only that but he uses only his right foot?!?!with a blackbelt he should be able to give kicks with both legs equally, like they do in olympics in wtf, also if he is an itf'er why is he wearing head-protection?!
mastro111 1 year ago
@mastro111
well, it's not un-effective what he's doing, it's actually annoying to go against someone that's really good using one of their feet. I'm sure he can pull off different kicks with his other foot too, but was prolly not worth it when he could do it like he did. wtf is a completely different sport since they seldom use their arms.
GuttzeTuffen 1 year ago
@GuttzeTuffen yeah but this is itf :)
mastro111 1 year ago
@mastro111
i know, i've been training itf for 7 years :p but you mentioned wtf, so i just wanted to point out that it's a completely sport. :p
GuttzeTuffen 1 year ago
@GuttzeTuffen i've been training tae-kwon-do since i was 7 and especially itf since i was 11 but in itf you dont wear headgear
mastro111 1 year ago
@mastro111
well, weaing headgear depends on where you train and how the rules are decided. Here, where I live, we often use headgear just for protection, but we also go sparring without it, we're doing both. And i've seen the same in many other countries too, it's not only here i live that we use headgear sometimes.
GuttzeTuffen 1 year ago
@mastro111 many itf schools wear headgear,they used to wear it in competitions too.This isnt an itf or even tkd comp,its light contact allstyles.
billysue2 1 year ago
are you not allowed to catch kicks in this? the kickboxer had hold of the TKD guy's leg at one point and just let it go
mr1ah 1 year ago
@mr1ah It looks like a point sparring style match. In point sparring, there is no grabbing or holding. The point of point sparring is NOT to beat the snot out of your opponent, but to use proper technique (open/closing stances, countering, etc) to out-score your opponent.
letbonist 1 year ago
The TKD guys have excellent balance and form and the Boxers are very smart and look very strong.
Its just hard trying to get on the inside of a kicker because of the range difference and its much tougher trying to match kicks for kicks with a person who can spam the 8 angles.
hazza3 1 year ago
cienki padł by w pierwszej rundzie na zasadach k1
Killerfacker 1 year ago
And why are all the so called MMA kickboxers so small, so slow, and so NOTskilled???
masterofkenpokarate 1 year ago
This guy is good. But why all the kickboxers don't know how to throw punches?
masterofkenpokarate 1 year ago
ITF Taekwondo kicks ass =D
YinYanTiger 1 year ago
understanding that you need to get inside so he cant use his kicks and actually getting inside so he cant use his kicks are 2 different things. Its easy to say hard to do.
vicious12394 1 year ago
this guy is a total twinkie
llJRLL1979ll 1 year ago
thats just lame, he uses his feets to keep distance from punches, and when they come close enough he just clenches and gets the judge to break up...
biodroid 1 year ago
What is the music in this video?
kangarooblond 1 year ago
@kangarooblond It's stupid and gay
Hoekzema 1 year ago
@Hoekzema Okay, that made me laugh
kangarooblond 1 year ago
@kangarooblond At yer service
Hoekzema 1 year ago
cool vid ... props to all fighters. i like how the kickboxer starts to figure out what the tkd kid is doing around 2:00 into the vid ... and the guy after that in white is pretty good
kickitgermany 1 year ago
rubbish kickboxers in front of this TKD fghter, very poor boxing technique, i bet they are just junior kickboxers. just be closer to this TKD and her wont be able to through anything, cause obviously he's using his legs more than hand, and since he got poor hands or boxing technique, you can easily beat him.
ramilaser 1 year ago
@ramilaser ITF guy DO know how to use their hand but he didn't needed them since he was able to keep the kickboxer at a longer range so he could use his kicks more easyly, unlike WTF taekwon do who aren't allowed to use punch to the head
ZenoxDemin 1 year ago
@ramilaser ever heard of keeping distance, increasing distance and keep your guard up so the opponent cannot break in it?
mastro111 1 year ago
the TKD guy is really tall...
petehyunsikkim 1 year ago
no boxean, no patean low kick eso no es kick boxing,, un video triste para darle para adelante al taekwondo,,
romina2880 1 year ago
Good grief... is there no competent kickboxing to fight the TKD guy at all? Stop running away for crying out loud. Close that distance and deliver a knee damnit.
sliplover 1 year ago
On many instances the TKD fighter is hopping on one foot (e.g. in the beginning of the video or at around 1:26) - that's a hard feat to pull in MMA since this invites either a takedown, either a trip (kick) or a leg kick.
I have tremendous respect for TKD fighters, coming from a 'TKD family' myself. That being said, pitting a TKD fighter against sub-par kickboxers and stating this video is "ITF Taekwon-Do vs Kickboxing MMA" is misleading and false, especially if leg kicks aren't involved.
eayottes 1 year ago
Title of this vid is misleading.
Sorry, but this is not MMA stand-up.
Any Muai Tai fighter would leg kick the hell out of this TKD fighter.
Staying light on one foot is not a good idea against leg kicks, takedowns or simply trips (e.g. Karate).
I'm sorry, but TKD is a great martial art, but not very practical for MMA.
eayottes 1 year ago
@eayottes TKD and Karate favor low kicks in a street fight: groin, knees, and thigh are the main targets in that order for kicking in a street fight for any legit Karateka and TKD guy. Further, MMA is a sport. Also, Muay Thai loves to have a light front foot to load the back. Look at Shogun Rua or any other partially classical Mauy Thai fighter.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama: I am aware that MMA is a sport, nothing in my posts contradicted that. I am also aware that MT fighters sometimes have a light lead foot; that being said, they can still check leg kicks. I'm a huge Mauricio Rua fan...
eayottes 1 year ago
name of the song anyone? :)
Taekwondoitf123 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
looks like 2 fags with handbags
00287eeturner 1 year ago
Sorry.. But what are the rules in this match?
It seems like full contact (the version without low kicks)...
And here the contact are full or not?
Alessio85able 2 years ago
There are no lowkicks and it depends in what federation you're signed in because the one federation allows hooks and the other doesn't;)
zaidje 1 year ago
That hopping stuff is weak. If you're going to kick, kick with power and force. This is almost an embarassment. Looks like some McDojo sparring with baby touches instead of strong kicking.
Sinnikkyys 2 years ago
It's what you call 'semi-contact continuous sparring' rules, NOT full contact. The whole point is to hit the opponent to score points with about 50% power. People are allowed to fight under different rules y'know, not everyone has to do full contact or Muay Thai, or whatever.
DW01 2 years ago
wait but when you hop you could push off the foot thats on the ground
seanx1357 2 years ago
very nicee XD
javierjux 2 years ago
a real muay thai fighter would have no patience for this guy he would get droped in 5 seconds.
chucknorrisisgodchas 2 years ago
this is dumb because he is a black belt with dans fighting a bunch of amateur kickboxers. giorgio petrosyan would fuck this guy up.
chucknorrisisgodchas 2 years ago
taekwondo rules!!! mma kick boxing my ass
72thanasis 2 years ago
thats not mma sorry
guitaroon 2 years ago
pussy sport pussy music MMA for real men!
mhrspeedroxx 2 years ago
yeah he landed alot, but no knock out.
No power, just speed = not gonna win a fight by just landing. learn to end fights.
cleve101 2 years ago
ITF sparring uses severe control, theres almost never a knockout unless its by accident
corbinhaupt 2 years ago
force=mass x ACCELERATION, in other words, if your fast, you have power.
kingjef22 2 years ago
True! but thats if TKD lands with a heel, shin, to the face or stomach. other then that the kicks don't do much damage to arms or legs to wear the opponent down.
cleve101 2 years ago
thats not true,super fast shots with no bodyweight are just taps,called arm punches in boxing.The technique is what adds the mass.Theres a very small room for improvement in speed but only the best use mass properly
billysue2 2 years ago
its light contact rules,a ko can be a disqualification.
billysue2 2 years ago
shit music but good game
tsd600 2 years ago 2
ur good but you use to much moves from taekwondo that hardly works
xmaxjacky123 2 years ago
my base discipline is tkd, i grew up between mex gangs and surf rats in socal and got into many street fights of which i never started, all bigger than me, me 5-8 & 150lbs, never lost a fight in my life. my kicks saved me, knocked them out or to the ground. my fists helped too, but kicks led the fight. fought all types all styles in the street. bruised but never lost. tkd in the street kept me healthy. a lot of what you see in ufc (ground) not very practical in the street. from experience
bottlebrusher 2 years ago 2
shit fighters, shit music
bloodcorer 2 years ago
I would have liked to see how TKD fares against people who go to the ground. While TKD has more "surgeon" like kicks which go for accuracy over kickboxing's power, if the TKD guy isn't quick enough on the pull back, someone's just going to leg grab and take him down.
OldSkoolAngel 2 years ago
that goes for any stand up art that applies kicks. of course if a experienced grappler fights a TKD fighter with little experience in grappling the fight will end quickly if it goes to the ground, but that's not how mma is. most fighters have multiple styles, and at least a standup and a ground style. cung le is TKD fighter, and he has wrestling and some BJJ as well. he has been very successful in mma having been crowned middleweight strikeforce champion at one time.
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago
he doesnt train like any tkd lad,he trains sanshou which is chinese kickboxing.If he did tkd its a long long time ago.
billysue2 2 years ago
sanshou and TKD are the basis of his fighting style. he uses both, but he has even said in interviews that he uses TKD. the main element of sanshou in his fighting is his throws. he primarily used TKD kicks for striking.
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago
he uses kicks that happen to be in evry style of striking,what makes him good apart from talent is the full contact sparring and wrestling background,neither of which have anything to do with tkd
billysue2 2 years ago
well, i've read about cung le saying that TKD is a strong basis of his fighting style, and i've heard him in interviews mention it as well. he is a TKD blackbelt. yes his full contact sparring is what makes him a good fighter, but his TKD background does have something to do with it. just because many TKD schools do not do full contact, doesn't mean its techniques cannot be transferred to it. let's face it, cung is a mixed martial artist. he is trained in several discplines. thats why he's good
liverpoolcCU 2 years ago
No, he is doing Taekwondo, it's just ITF version which means it's more of a fighting style then the WTF branch which is sport. ITF is a pretty legit stand up style, there's really no BS thrown in, i've seen many kickboxers put on their butt from ITF, mostly the sidekick. And Sanshou took many moves from ITF Taekwondo, pretty much any kick you have to chamber, like the sidekick, it's of Korean orgin, Korea started the "chambering" of kicking. Look up Taekkyun, it's the first Taekwondo.
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
Uhh, I didn't know you were talking about Cung Le, I thought you were talking about the guy in the video, and yeah, Cung Le uses Sanda (Sanshou) and he is a black belt in Taekwondo, which i've seen alot of his kicks from. He does Sanda, but his Taekwondo training definatly didn't make his kicks any worse LOL
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
That Tae Kwon Do fighter is GOOD! His leg control is very impressive!
AThousandYoung 2 years ago
please tell me there was more to these fights then what was shown. the fighter featured might have, possibly, sort of, known what he was doing but he is asking to get his KTFO. The rest were, literally, horrible. the first two basically walked into range and swung. the second stood with half his back to the opponent... that this could be called fighting makes my soul hurt.
iamzophar 2 years ago
C'mon MMA
Use some single/double leg takedowns
flamez8986929 2 years ago
Nice moves, but that shit wouldn't fly in the streets.
Plus, his opponents throw punches like sissies.
I would like to see him do that to a real muay thai fighter.
9rin 2 years ago
muay thai doesn't fly in the street too now a days.... a "real" street fight doesn't consist of fighters with martial arts in the street... it consists of drunken, or high in drug people with knives or beer bottles, gangs of friends and sometimes guns... please... no martial art would "fly" in the streets... there are no style in the street u fly by.
heartlessKOR 2 years ago
what do u mean by "fly"? there r plenty of people who use martial arts to fight in the street. and they fight against guys with knives, guns, granades and everything under the sun.
I have trained with and talked to serveral special forces guys and police officers who have done this very thing.
Fighting really does depend on the fighter.
Not some style.
ikcjjtt 2 years ago
That's not even MMA, it's just Kickboxing or Full Contact Karate. Please don't confuse them with MMA
BASTARDUS1MAXIMUS 2 years ago
actually, it is technically mma. mma stands for mixed martial arts, wka tournements have karate, kickboxing, tai boxing, taekwon-do and probbly others. the fact is that it is a mix of martial artist, so it is mma.
ax3ninja 2 years ago
so u are saying that u kick faster then the pro fighters? because many pro fighters gets their kicks grabbed many times! and they dont even slide in!
sir360 2 years ago
uh how can i put thin ... yes. pro mma fighters in general dont kick very fast. kung li is one of the fastest pro kickers i've seen, but he still isnt exactly lightning. try watching ri choi nam or something, cause he's very quick
ax3ninja 2 years ago
mma would dominate tkd so bad if everything was allowed u see the way the tkd dude kicks? he keeps his leg up! all u need to do is grap it and kick his other leg! then u got him on the ground! and then it is ground and pound time! easy cake!
sir360 2 years ago
i've faught in a tournement where grabs and sweeps and all that is allowed. its not rocket science to know that when i kick i should slide in, kick and put my foot down. plus i found that i kick too quickly for anyone to grab, plus its really easy to throw a little extra hip power and stretch it high to knock em sideways.
mma would probably win in the cage where mma is designed, but in tkd rules you lose horribly.
ax3ninja 2 years ago
ooo and if fedor fought this guy standing up! he would so own him!
sir360 2 years ago
no one is saying mr paterson is ultimate amazitude. im also PUMA and my brother, who has no interest in sparring has beating mr paterson in a tournement no problem. but he is still a very good sparrer.
ax3ninja 2 years ago
If you fight a boxer using boxing rules so you lose.
roboto70 2 years ago
nice fight! finally i see a god taekwondo fighter who fights well.
TheKaratekid92 2 years ago 2
lol
blazejoblazejo 2 years ago
as bad as the kickboxers are, if they just kept their hands up, most of the kicks would just have hit the arms, no major damage
Scyeth 2 years ago
ok so what u people are saying no matter how much tkd wins there all going to be fixed fight your saying in no possiblescenario tkd will ever win u guys have never tried tkd
rtardx 2 years ago
This is why "traditional" fight tournaments are gay. Its about points. You can get points if you just touch your fist or foot to a strike zone. It doesn't matter if anyone get hurt. Its not practical. Those kickboxers didn't look very skilled and in a real fight you leave your leg out like that someone will grab it and slam you on your head.
tedpm206 2 years ago
lol those kickboxers couldn't punch if there life depended on it! why did they called themselves kick"boxers"?
true ITF!!
sk5williams 2 years ago
that kickboxer is a bad representative to both kickboxing and mma. so, you cant really say much based on kickboxing as a whole. based on this fight, yes you can say that kickboxing is not practical. but that would be a lie. in truth, kickboxing can is equal to or greater than tkd
AznInvazn69Theory 2 years ago
bad tkd fighter only kick yop chagi and dooly ...
ea95osel 2 years ago
He won didn't he?
The111DooD 2 years ago
yea but he still suck
ea95osel 2 years ago