the only bs conclusion is yours. a perfect creator doesn't HAVE TO create a perfect creation... he can do whatever the f... he wants to do for whatever reason he chooses. human beings are NOT meant to be immortal on earth.
that's a silly argument, i'm not assuming one single thing you mentioned in your comment. the only thing i'm assuming here,on the basis of reason and logic, is that there must be a creator/designer who designed life. it's up to you if you want to call it god. i'm saying "he" because of the lack of a better word. i didn't mention at all what his intent was,nor did i say what his abilities are. i'm just saying that something that's perfect, logically,DOESN'T HAVE TO always create perfect creations
if i am a perfect painter and i draw an ugly picture (although the design of life is far from ugly) for whatever reason, that doesn't mean that i can't draw a perfect picture. this is logic and i can't help you if you can't understand that. now what IS irrational is that someone can belive that a human being (an incredibly and incomprehensibly complicated and wondrous machine) came from a single cell by RANDOM mutations,which in turn came from more randomness and chance.. now THAT is irrational.
"an incredibly and incomprehensibly complicated and wondrous machine"
Organisms are not incomprehensible. The study of them is called biology and it's a major field. By studying animals we've learned many things about them, including many flaws in species and mal-adaptations.
Evolution by natural selection is fact. If you can't see that you're either extremely ignorant or 7.
People who just answer by saying such things as 'F religion from behind' and 'Do they play this shit in America' are actually sayning alot about themselves. They do not seem to have good arguments.
Anyway, please learn a little more about serious creation science and serious evolution debates before critizizing.
do they really play this shit on TV in america? here where i live they certainly don't let through this kind of misleading non-scientific & religious crap.:) it's just like south park's mr.garrison's lecture on evolution.:P
I will tell you, the religious people at the time sall science as the other. IT changed the way peole thought about God. So they did away with it. We need to come to the relization that faith answers moral questions, and science answers the questions of the natural world.
God is bigger than any science, any theory,any doctrine any interpretation.God is not religion, religion is science.God is perfect, the word of God is perfect because he wrote, to know him, we gotta read and know his word in the Holy Bible.God created us and everything in the universe and his love and mercy keep the universe.
I have done far more research than you ever have. So you can tell us what matter is. Great! So can I. But can you tell me how the first cell made itself and what atmosphere it was in? If you had done more research you would find that it is impossible to create life from non life even given the proper atmosphere.
Dont know about this islamic video. .I believe the bible because I'm still waiting for the "new" "improved" version of the chimpanzee,gorilla,orangutan etc etc to be born - where are they? Evolutionists have "faith" these animals will change.
hi bekll,"facts" are things which we can see with our own eyes - and everyone in the entire planet agrees on what we are seeing eg the sun is yellow to our eyes. .everything else that cant be seen has an element of "faith" attached to it.Its a visible fact that chimps,orangutans etc are on the road to extinction - but "evolution"? Another religion!
There is proof for evolution. There is no proof for ID, other than the idea that "wouldn't it be nice if God explained everything we didn't understand". You can have faith in ID, but you can't put it across as scientific fact.
irriducable complexity. Darwin said that if their was such thing as a system that could not have evolved through long gradual processes, than his theory would break down. Of course, at that time there was not much scientific insights as to this. Now, we have discovered many irriducably complex systems.
And just because we don't understand it doesn't mean that it is God at work. Lab experiments 'breeding' circuit designs have created circuits that work in ways that are impossible for humans to design (useing unknown properties of the circuit components). Google "Adrian Thompson hardware evolution" for a better description of the experiment.
So I.D. involves faith? Oh really? Well then, can you explain irriducable complexity? Do you even know what irriducable complexity IS? If you even had the slightest bit about I.D. and evolution, you would know that evolutionist have more faith that Christians
Irriducible complexity is the idea that some biological systems are too complex to have naturally evolved. It's one step away from a God of the Gaps argument where anything that we don't understand/know is attributed to an omnipotent deity. I think the ones that used to be thrown around by ID supporters were the evolution of the eye, then the evolution of bacteria flagellum, but both of those have been modeled and explained through evolution now.
I.D. must involve faith. If you 'know' that it exists then there must either be scientific evidence for it, or faith. There is no scientific evidence for it - just misunderstood arguments against evolution (people asking 'what use is half an eye' when that isn't how an eye evolved). All that is left is faith.
Plus, any beleif in a supernatural being is classified as faith (beleif in god?), and such a being is integrel to the ideas of ID.
"I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence." ~ Flying Spaghetti Monsterism at it's finest.
Works of Harun Yahya show invalidity of the theory of evolution in every aspect. You can find answer to every argument claimed by evolutionist. you should examine his sites, videos or books either you are for or against the evolution.
I have his book. Right away he states that Evolution is about animals being evolved by "chance". Indeed, Evolution is the very opposite of chance - it is a non-random process that has mountains of evidence to back it up. Harun Yahya says there is not a SHRED of evidence (ha-- what a joke) and he doesn't say WHERE he got that information and he doesn't even TRY to back up that claim! He's a fool.
"Monkeys evolved into what they are today, as did humans, they each came from a different species, but are still related. " -tommytime8
actuall, ur wrong. evolution teaches that WE came FROM monkeys. everytime i hear someone say *then y arent monkeys human like us by now*, an evolutionist says "we dont say we came from monkeys, we just say we had a common ancestor". but then later on u say we came from monkeys! make up ur mind..
You're right that there's no absolute proof for evolution, but there are mountains of evidence for it. Evolution itself is a fact. (Fact does not mean absolute certainty by the way.) The Evolution theory of how it started and why is... well, obviously a theory - it explains the fact.
Tommytime8 was right. Evolution does NOT teach that we came from monkeys, but that monkeys and humans came from a common ancestor that lived several million years ago. Monkeys are our cousins... not our ancestors.
Example: evolutionists still use haeckels fake drawings of human embryos which was already proven false 100 years ago. Evolutionists still say that the embryo has parts left over when we where fish, saying we had gill slits. Turns out that those werent gill slits, they moved to make the face ect. ect.. they also still say our appendix is still vestigial, when it was later found that they r used to help fight diseases. i can go on and on trust me lol.
jmans.. u seem to like evolution alot huh? lol.. and u say theres no proof for god huh? well theres hardly any proof for evolution, thats y they have to *make proof up*.
I love that - to start on a creationism p.o.v they say 'a person who examines any corner of the universe'. So when did they start using telescopes created by god? No wait they were made by science... silly me
hire some english dude that sounds respectable, offer no proof to refute evolution, but doubletalk and make it seem you do have evidence, and what do you have? A creationism video for dim-witted fuckwits that hate science and don't understand its basic tenents, but wish to blindly meddle with it. snore, snore, snore.
Um To All You evolutionists Out There!How Can A Bunch Of Gas Just Randomly Create Earth, Then After That Amazing Thing, An Atmosphere Is Suddenly blasted Out Of Nothing. THEN! Monkeys Are Formed From Some Gases That were circiling or some crap. then what are the odds of those monkeys being here suddenly. How Come I Don't see A Half a monkey human, if earth has been here for 100,000,000,000,000,years how come there are still monkeys?, wouldn't they have "evolved" into something else by now?
GUITARIST1991 - I think you should actually go and find out all the information on a subject before you TRY to disregard it. Answer me this; Where did dinosaur fossils come from? There is undisputable evidence that they are millions of years old. Did god bury them there? wow what a genius
Well, evolution has done nothing but deceive the crowd. Countless assumptions, chances, and stubborness
Blind chance cannot create the human brain. Evolutionists always say "giraffes evolved their necks, however, there are NO fossils on this earth showing a giraffe evolving its neck
The fossil museums all show the fossil as they are, with no traces or change.
Thats why evolutionists are very desperate for evidence in which they cannot find, they use deception, and misleading views
Because I am to ignorant to understand something it must not be understandable and therefore must be the result of god. For my ego is too grand to imagine that others are capable of understanding truths that I am not. Is thunder still god bowling and lightning the spears of Zeus? Is disease still the result of evil spirits? Willful ignorance is an infection perpetuated by lies.
It's not useful to talk about the improbability of our existence, because we HAVE to exist to be here to talk about it.
Also, there sure is a lot of "factual" in this video. Indeed, there's so much "factual" information in this video that it REALLY begs the question on that basis alone.
God made an exceedingly orderly Universe in which his influence is transparent; if people could free their minds from the shackles of fundamentalism, this would be readily obvious.
so a perfect creator only creats imperfect life? What a bs conclusion.
Sardonac 4 years ago
the only bs conclusion is yours. a perfect creator doesn't HAVE TO create a perfect creation... he can do whatever the f... he wants to do for whatever reason he chooses. human beings are NOT meant to be immortal on earth.
urbanguru 2 years ago
You assume so many things. a) god. b) gods intent. c) gods ability. d) gods gender.
Until you can prove all those things you're holding an irrational belief.
Sardonac 2 years ago
that's a silly argument, i'm not assuming one single thing you mentioned in your comment. the only thing i'm assuming here,on the basis of reason and logic, is that there must be a creator/designer who designed life. it's up to you if you want to call it god. i'm saying "he" because of the lack of a better word. i didn't mention at all what his intent was,nor did i say what his abilities are. i'm just saying that something that's perfect, logically,DOESN'T HAVE TO always create perfect creations
urbanguru 2 years ago
"a perfect creator doesn't HAVE TO create a perfect creation" - I never said it did.
"he can do whatever the f... he wants" - assuming a consciousness and desire, obvious personification.
"human beings are NOT meant to be immortal on earth." "i didn't mention at all what his intent" - these contradict.
Sardonac 2 years ago
if i am a perfect painter and i draw an ugly picture (although the design of life is far from ugly) for whatever reason, that doesn't mean that i can't draw a perfect picture. this is logic and i can't help you if you can't understand that. now what IS irrational is that someone can belive that a human being (an incredibly and incomprehensibly complicated and wondrous machine) came from a single cell by RANDOM mutations,which in turn came from more randomness and chance.. now THAT is irrational.
urbanguru 2 years ago
"an incredibly and incomprehensibly complicated and wondrous machine"
Organisms are not incomprehensible. The study of them is called biology and it's a major field. By studying animals we've learned many things about them, including many flaws in species and mal-adaptations.
Evolution by natural selection is fact. If you can't see that you're either extremely ignorant or 7.
Sardonac 2 years ago
no belief is more irrational than the belief of darwinists :)
urbanguru 2 years ago
We observe natural selection
we observe mutation
we have fossil evidence
creationists: "Things are complex therefore they needed to be designed" Which is a fallacy.
Sardonac 2 years ago
bombardier beetle is amazing. To me it's ID
tranhn 4 years ago
How inconvenient.
thinkpinkwink 5 years ago
00:20 Cells are not invisible. Too flawed to comment on the rest.
thinkpinkwink 5 years ago
People who just answer by saying such things as 'F religion from behind' and 'Do they play this shit in America' are actually sayning alot about themselves. They do not seem to have good arguments.
Anyway, please learn a little more about serious creation science and serious evolution debates before critizizing.
ZummerZong 5 years ago
do they really play this shit on TV in america? here where i live they certainly don't let through this kind of misleading non-scientific & religious crap.:) it's just like south park's mr.garrison's lecture on evolution.:P
loverich 5 years ago
Do you know what the Ottoman Empire?
I will tell you, the religious people at the time sall science as the other. IT changed the way peole thought about God. So they did away with it. We need to come to the relization that faith answers moral questions, and science answers the questions of the natural world.
cbmw95 5 years ago
Please stop using EMOTION and start THINKING to argue your point you fools.
vampireofminds 5 years ago
Yawn! People don't honestly still believe this creationism yarn do they? Wake up world
Appoloniusoftyana 5 years ago
this video was completely unbiased and showed a great understanding of evolution...not.
DaHanG 5 years ago
God is bigger than any science, any theory,any doctrine any interpretation.God is not religion, religion is science.God is perfect, the word of God is perfect because he wrote, to know him, we gotta read and know his word in the Holy Bible.God created us and everything in the universe and his love and mercy keep the universe.
radialfer 5 years ago
I have done far more research than you ever have. So you can tell us what matter is. Great! So can I. But can you tell me how the first cell made itself and what atmosphere it was in? If you had done more research you would find that it is impossible to create life from non life even given the proper atmosphere.
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
Dont know about this islamic video. .I believe the bible because I'm still waiting for the "new" "improved" version of the chimpanzee,gorilla,orangutan etc etc to be born - where are they? Evolutionists have "faith" these animals will change.
yastunt 5 years ago
Evolutionists have KNOWLEDGE these animals MAY change. Get your facts straight.
Bekll 5 years ago
hi bekll,"facts" are things which we can see with our own eyes - and everyone in the entire planet agrees on what we are seeing eg the sun is yellow to our eyes. .everything else that cant be seen has an element of "faith" attached to it.Its a visible fact that chimps,orangutans etc are on the road to extinction - but "evolution"? Another religion!
yastunt 5 years ago
There is proof for evolution. There is no proof for ID, other than the idea that "wouldn't it be nice if God explained everything we didn't understand". You can have faith in ID, but you can't put it across as scientific fact.
iangb 5 years ago
... not proof, but evidence for evolution - a LOT of evidence that given that evidence we can say that evolution is a fact.
Bekll 5 years ago
irriducable complexity. Darwin said that if their was such thing as a system that could not have evolved through long gradual processes, than his theory would break down. Of course, at that time there was not much scientific insights as to this. Now, we have discovered many irriducably complex systems.
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
Name one.
And just because we don't understand it doesn't mean that it is God at work. Lab experiments 'breeding' circuit designs have created circuits that work in ways that are impossible for humans to design (useing unknown properties of the circuit components). Google "Adrian Thompson hardware evolution" for a better description of the experiment.
iangb 5 years ago
So I.D. involves faith? Oh really? Well then, can you explain irriducable complexity? Do you even know what irriducable complexity IS? If you even had the slightest bit about I.D. and evolution, you would know that evolutionist have more faith that Christians
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
You haven't named one yet.
Irriducible complexity is the idea that some biological systems are too complex to have naturally evolved. It's one step away from a God of the Gaps argument where anything that we don't understand/know is attributed to an omnipotent deity. I think the ones that used to be thrown around by ID supporters were the evolution of the eye, then the evolution of bacteria flagellum, but both of those have been modeled and explained through evolution now.
iangb 5 years ago
I.D. must involve faith. If you 'know' that it exists then there must either be scientific evidence for it, or faith. There is no scientific evidence for it - just misunderstood arguments against evolution (people asking 'what use is half an eye' when that isn't how an eye evolved). All that is left is faith.
Plus, any beleif in a supernatural being is classified as faith (beleif in god?), and such a being is integrel to the ideas of ID.
iangb 5 years ago
Science for Evolution has nothing to do with faith, but logic.
Bekll 5 years ago
"I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence." ~ Flying Spaghetti Monsterism at it's finest.
iangb 5 years ago
Works of Harun Yahya show invalidity of the theory of evolution in every aspect. You can find answer to every argument claimed by evolutionist. you should examine his sites, videos or books either you are for or against the evolution.
nadimenadi 5 years ago
I have his book. Right away he states that Evolution is about animals being evolved by "chance". Indeed, Evolution is the very opposite of chance - it is a non-random process that has mountains of evidence to back it up. Harun Yahya says there is not a SHRED of evidence (ha-- what a joke) and he doesn't say WHERE he got that information and he doesn't even TRY to back up that claim! He's a fool.
Bekll 5 years ago
"Monkeys evolved into what they are today, as did humans, they each came from a different species, but are still related. " -tommytime8
actuall, ur wrong. evolution teaches that WE came FROM monkeys. everytime i hear someone say *then y arent monkeys human like us by now*, an evolutionist says "we dont say we came from monkeys, we just say we had a common ancestor". but then later on u say we came from monkeys! make up ur mind..
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
You're right that there's no absolute proof for evolution, but there are mountains of evidence for it. Evolution itself is a fact. (Fact does not mean absolute certainty by the way.) The Evolution theory of how it started and why is... well, obviously a theory - it explains the fact.
Tommytime8 was right. Evolution does NOT teach that we came from monkeys, but that monkeys and humans came from a common ancestor that lived several million years ago. Monkeys are our cousins... not our ancestors.
Bekll 5 years ago
Example: evolutionists still use haeckels fake drawings of human embryos which was already proven false 100 years ago. Evolutionists still say that the embryo has parts left over when we where fish, saying we had gill slits. Turns out that those werent gill slits, they moved to make the face ect. ect.. they also still say our appendix is still vestigial, when it was later found that they r used to help fight diseases. i can go on and on trust me lol.
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
jmans.. u seem to like evolution alot huh? lol.. and u say theres no proof for god huh? well theres hardly any proof for evolution, thats y they have to *make proof up*.
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
I love that - to start on a creationism p.o.v they say 'a person who examines any corner of the universe'. So when did they start using telescopes created by god? No wait they were made by science... silly me
adamwuk 5 years ago
hire some english dude that sounds respectable, offer no proof to refute evolution, but doubletalk and make it seem you do have evidence, and what do you have? A creationism video for dim-witted fuckwits that hate science and don't understand its basic tenents, but wish to blindly meddle with it. snore, snore, snore.
jmans 5 years ago
the fact of creationism.
does the definition of fact mean "having no evidence"
Biology should banned from schools to avoid students finding out the truth about the Origin of species.
helterskelter1 5 years ago
Um To All You evolutionists Out There!How Can A Bunch Of Gas Just Randomly Create Earth, Then After That Amazing Thing, An Atmosphere Is Suddenly blasted Out Of Nothing. THEN! Monkeys Are Formed From Some Gases That were circiling or some crap. then what are the odds of those monkeys being here suddenly. How Come I Don't see A Half a monkey human, if earth has been here for 100,000,000,000,000,years how come there are still monkeys?, wouldn't they have "evolved" into something else by now?
Guitarist1991 5 years ago
GUITARIST1991 - I think you should actually go and find out all the information on a subject before you TRY to disregard it. Answer me this; Where did dinosaur fossils come from? There is undisputable evidence that they are millions of years old. Did god bury them there? wow what a genius
adamwuk 5 years ago
Well, evolution has done nothing but deceive the crowd. Countless assumptions, chances, and stubborness
Blind chance cannot create the human brain. Evolutionists always say "giraffes evolved their necks, however, there are NO fossils on this earth showing a giraffe evolving its neck
The fossil museums all show the fossil as they are, with no traces or change.
Thats why evolutionists are very desperate for evidence in which they cannot find, they use deception, and misleading views
xxEmpirionxx 5 years ago
Come see why intelligent design is wrong. And how blind chance can evolve complex forms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2SVMKZhV2g
cdk007 5 years ago
There is no science in creationism. Science is knowledge, causing the unknown to be diminished, diminishing the need for an unknown "cause"
VonSchnee 5 years ago
Because I am to ignorant to understand something it must not be understandable and therefore must be the result of god. For my ego is too grand to imagine that others are capable of understanding truths that I am not. Is thunder still god bowling and lightning the spears of Zeus? Is disease still the result of evil spirits? Willful ignorance is an infection perpetuated by lies.
cdk007 5 years ago
Creationists make me laugh,, They only believe in creationism cos they are too stupid to understand evolution.
I will sum up evolution for the hard of thinking...
IF IT IS SHIT IT DIES!
kbox 5 years ago
It's not useful to talk about the improbability of our existence, because we HAVE to exist to be here to talk about it.
Also, there sure is a lot of "factual" in this video. Indeed, there's so much "factual" information in this video that it REALLY begs the question on that basis alone.
God made an exceedingly orderly Universe in which his influence is transparent; if people could free their minds from the shackles of fundamentalism, this would be readily obvious.
leefnaspleaf 5 years ago
Where then would you get your notion of God?
Ba101 5 years ago