COUNTERFEIT SILVER COINS & THE "PING" TEST!!!

[noudo25]

I buy all my coins from Gainseville coins...anybody ever get a fake from them?

[joe299724]

just use a bleach.because only silver tarnishes on bleach.

[Goldenchild795]

I just brought five peace dollars and I`ve noticed that one of them feels so much lighter than the rest of them.. I wonder if it`s fake

[Silveready1]

@Goldenchild795 take it to your local coin dealer and have them check it out.

[zippoarmor]

i use the ping test quite frequently as well, i balance the coin on my finger and tap it with a metal pen. Silver coins have a distinct tone, and it resonates. urs is good too. Ive always wondered if the ping test is reliable.

[onlythewise1]

what is the fake metals

[SILVERMAGNETSLIDE]

i bet the copy half-dollar was thicker.

[Silveready1]

@SILVERMAGNETSLIDE  believe it or not the dimensions and weight were very similar to the real half.

[SILVERMAGNETSLIDE]

@Silveready1 That's interesting. the Chinese are getting better at producing alloys of a density similar to silver. Keep thinking about ways to detect them. :)

[edwardwills]

You ever use the Fisch Detectors?

[Silveready1]

@edwardwills too expensive!

[SILVERMAGNETSLIDE]

@edwardwills you know you can make your own fisch detector using a sheet of plexiglass. I will make one and post it to my channel. I must say that Fisch detectors can be hard to use with stuff like Krugerrands. Although the weight and diameter can be tested no problem, I've seen where depending on the strike pressure when the coin is struck, the rim edge can vary, making the thickness not consistent at the rim, although it varies very little in the center of the coin.

[caribbeanNO1]

would a electric conductivity test work to figure out variations in the metal. let me know what you think

[caribbeanNO1]

thanks for the information, my god im questioning my who collection if non of your coins fake/real are magnetic, then wtf do you do. Acid test is a no no, because it will etch the metal and degrade value, especially if they are rare and very sought after that would be no good. any other tests, what about conductivity tests

[radicalsquare]

It looks as though the counterfeit walking liberty half has details on the sun that looks incorrect. The rays and the shape of the sun are different, at least it seems. Have any such details been documented? Just curious.

[Silveready1]

@radicalsquare it's probably just the light reflecting differently off the coins, the details were pretty spot on.

[proskateboarder1222]

look at the sun one the walking liberty the real one has more rays thatn the fake

[DrJLo08]

Try ringing the coins by balancing the one in question on your fingertip and tapping it with another coin. Even fakes may ring, but the real ones usually ring longer or "hold" the ring better.

I find it surprising that somebody would fake a 90% silver half...but with them now going for $30.00 each I guess that's what it's come to.

My dealer "tags and bags" my 90% coins and guarantees to buy them back if the seal is unbroken.

[beaverbox]

hello you say but only from reputable companies what happens if you get sold fakes from then ( if the chinese coins are such good fakes ) ??????

[Silveready1]

@beaverbox not likely to happen, but if it does, you have a reputible company that will make it right.

[beaverbox]

@Silveready1 thanks fella i,m about to buy some silver eagles and some gold to from ( bullionbypost . co . uk or gainsvillecoins . com or taxfreegold .co. uk ) have you done any trade with them ??

[Silveready1]

@beaverbox Gainseville is one of my favorites, best prices and never had a problem with them.

[Silveready1]

@beaverbox they usually have reliable suppliers, but anythings possible -if you get a fake from Apmex or Gainseville, they will definitely make it right.

[beaverbox]

hello you say but only from reputable companies what happens if you get sold fakes from then ( if the chinese are such good fakes ) ??????

[daltonsbadboy]

I guessed the real and the fakes correctly before you revealed them

[Silveready1]

@daltonsbadboy Good Job! not everyone has that good an eye.

[davidlee110]

Never buy Chinese coins! i bet 90% of them are fake.

[Cheema0113]

Doesn`t the morgan weigh 26.73 grams?

[Silveready1]

@Cheema0113 yes, but it can varie slightly depending upon wear, and quality of the scale your using.

also, Mints inthe U.S. were allowed up to 1 1/2 Grains variation in weight of Morgan Dollars.

[davidlee110]

@Silveready1 the machine don't work anymore.

now they making fake coins weigh the same as the real one because of those machines.

stupid ass chinese >:(

[strongarabi]

there is liquid called "carateste" it tells you if it's fake or real very good for Gold and silver cost $15 or less on ebay .

good luck

[angelmtza]

Hello silveready1 do you know if there is a fisch test for 1 oz coins? I buy mexican libertad oz. Thanks

[Silveready1]

@angelmtza I don't know if there is a Fisch Tester for 1 Oz silver eagles, obviously theres no way to make a Fisch tester for Generic rounds from different MFg. and in my experience, Fisch testers are way overpriced unless you need it to test huge lots of one type of coin.

(P.S. I have lots of libertads -beautiful Coin!, thanks for watching)

[EricSeitz1]

Went to a pawn shop

They were selling "Replica silver coins"

Bah!!

[Silveready1]

@EricSeitz1 they probably bought them as "Real" from somebody!

[TheSaint135]

why do you put a plastic tray between the coins and your scale?

[Silveready1]

@TheSaint135 more accurate weight, and easier to pick up stuff im weighing.

[genesistwoeighteen]

What about the ole bite test. The silver is plyable and the fake is hard? I know I have bought a few rounds and I bite into them and they are easily scuffed. Im not an expert so what do you think about that?

[Silveready1]

@genesistwoeighteen I think your an undercover Dentist looking for more business -LOL!!!

[genesistwoeighteen]

@Silveready1 Dang it I cant get away with anything! hehe

[Number1Techguru]

Is there any way to do a density test?Or hardness test?

[Silveready1]

@Number1Techguru Specific Gravity tests are the most accurate, but they are difficult and easy to get wrong.

[DominateKiller6]

@Silveready1 I do believe it is called specific density.

[Joe11Blue]

What's the legality of melting the fakes? Can you get them smelted to pure and recasted as bullion?

[Silveready1]

@Joe11Blue not enogh silver value in them to bother!

[Joe11Blue]

@Silveready1 Ahh, ok. I only buy bullion, because I don't know enough about coins to trust my judgment. Bullion i could just buy from the mint directly. Coins are such a varied market. I don't mind picking up the newer Canadian Maples, but only from my local shop, because I know the guy.

[goedeck1]

Just noticed the fake chinese half has less sun rays hahahaha.

[blossombogart2]

use two coins for ping test....

[vorkev1]

i bought a silver maple and i was wondering how to tell if its fake i tested it and it dus not ping and the waght is a little off but when i use the acid test it shows as real. i did the magnet thing shows as reail pute a deep groov in the coin then did a nother acid test and it still sys pure silver. but wi is the waght off and no ping. just a thug.

[Silveready1]

@vorkev1 you may want to make sure your scales are accurate, I would also take the coin to a reputable coin dealer and have it authenticated. BTW there are privately minted silver rounds that look similar to the canandian maple-make sure the coin you have is not from a "Private" Mint.

[silveristhefuture]

the real one is a high pitched ring

[silveristhefuture]

well i guess actually the fake one is higher pitch

[mapleleafcoins]

For the coins that were roughly the same weight, did they have a different size? You would think if they were made of different materials they would have a different density (and hence a different size).

[Silveready1]

@mapleleafcoins no, the fake was very similar in size -but weighed about 5 grams less!

[silversniper007]

@Silveready1 You do the ping test all wrong dude. Balance the coin on the tip of your finger and lightly tap it with another coin. The silver will have a 3 second + high pitch ring. A fake will be dull dead and wont last. Once you get used to that real silver sound, you never forget it

[Silveready1]

@silversniper007 Thanks, i'll give it a try!

[FoodOrFail]

@silversniper007 And thus... silver bells =)  You are correct.

[MachineGunGhost]

Good job, and very informative.

[Silveready1]

@MachineGunGhost thanks for watching!

[trentable]

I have a much better method.

I heated my coin until it became luminescent then used a Spectrometer to identify the material.

[Silveready1]

@trentable I hope it wasnt an 1893 CC Dollar in MS67 Condition -LOL!!!

[trentable]

@Silveready1 Haha.

The coin itself had no intrinsic value other then the silver used to make it. :P

Anyway I live in australia so anything I buy comes from the Perth mint.

[Silveready1]

@trentable The Perth Mint does make some nice stuff (although a little pricey) I have several of their Silver "Kookaburra" series coins -Very Nice!

[OneHappyBird123]

Very good info! Great ping test. I could really hear it!

[Silveready1]

@OneHappyBird123 you have better ears than I do!

[81silvermj]

First off thanks again for the shout-out, that was really kind man. Your videos you are making on these fakes are very important and are appreciated in the YT community. Years ago i never even heard of these issues of counterfeiting even though they existed. But now it's all around us and it's a real threat to one of the all time great hobbies, businesses, etc. They are making these coins damn near spot on to an untrained eye. And it's even harder to tell if there's no side by side comparison.

[Silveready1]

@81silvermj thanks future "Dad", I appreciate the sentiments!

[GuildF40]

Good vid wow good fakes did you do a magnet ?

[Silveready1]

@GuildF40 No response to a magnet, so the coins must be some kind of alloy.

ive had better luck using a magnet on silver jewelery -that almost always picks out the fakes.

[Silveready1]

@assilvertried7x or a better thumb -LOL!