I'm a catholic and defiantly believe in miracles, but these are wax molds added onto the face and hands. It is true that most of the body did not decay, but what your are seeing here is simply a wax mask.
Even if a person is embalmed it doesn't take long for them to become dirt. Jesus was incorrupt in the tomb. This saint belonged to the mystical body of Christ. And his walk was so close that the Lord is now witnessing to the world that he is alive in Him in heaven. Science can't explain it, it's a miracle. Look at St. Bernadette's body, it looks like she's sleeping, and she's been dead for 150 yrs!
Her face was covered because of excessive cleaning and handling, but her body is free from wax., is intact, and free from decay. Her organs are flexible. She is Not embalmed. Abiotic,the degradation of a substance by chemical or physical processes has Not occurred in her. Any human body begins to break down immediately after death. How can you explain this living miracle when science can't? David predicted Christ's body would be incorruptible centuries before it happened.
@icimblind But Jesus is alive my friend, he only has been dead for 3 days. they embalmed Him, so the Bible tells us. St Bernadettes hands and face are wax indeed, because her skin felt in and she looked not so nice anymore. The rest of her body is we cannot see. Only the church knows. I dont say i dont believe it. I keep every option open:) But I think we should not honour bodies of the dead people. The only One who deserves all the honour is Jesus. Thats how I think about it
They never embalmed Jesus. Do you know what that even means? They prepared his body externally with their customs that's it. 3 days and two nights in the tomb you'd be pretty ripe. And you need to read what examinations they did on St. Bernadette's body. It wasn't just the Church. That's documented and an historical fact, that's why it is so impressive. By displaying the body, Jesus is getting all the glory. Who do you think is preserving the corpse? Jesus is incorruptible!
Just because the Catholic incorruptibles have a thin layer of wax over their face doesn't nullify they are incorrupt. Most of them still have their blood and organs in them and are not preserved like the Buddhist monks with bromide salts. You are just revealing what you don't know on the subjects or what you've been indoctrinated to through ignorance of atheism.
He was embalmed, if there was a god he would have not died to begin with, yeah right! the infinite and omega who supposedly created all matter in the universe did not have enough power to keep him alive but he did indeed keep him from decaying, use your brain.
I do want to know why the catholics dig up certain people in the first place? Do they make them Saints only after the bodies are not corrrupt for a certain amount of years or what? Why did they dug up Saint Bernadette and then re-bury her so many times before displaying her ?
Catholics dig up certain people for numerous reasons. Sometimes bodies need to be relocated- often in the past, they were moved to more suitable burial grounds. Sometimes robbers broke in. Sometimes a graveyard was moving. etc.... And yes, the body must remain incorrupt for a certain number of years before it is deemed 'incorruptible'; however, the Church does not accept incorruptibility any longer as a miracle for sainthood.
No, do a little research in the web and you'll find it has nothing to do with embalming, nor mummification, natural or artificial. I've heard about "saponification", but I don't have more information about it.
When a body is taken from the grave and placed by the altar like Pope John 23rd, the faces are covered. Its a wax lay over as with the hands. His bones are laid out and he is vested in his robes. Another example would be St Anthony in Padua, Italy. In the 1980s, Pope John Paul II, had his body "lie out" in a glass tomb at the church. Same with him. He was "lied out" for a while and was re-buried.
Other people have been dug up and not all are saints. Some were dug up because they were suspected as being vampires, and some of the bodies were incorrupt. It probally happens a lot but not every body is dug up to find out.
You missunderstood. People thought a person was a vampire after they dug their bodies up and found the bodies were supple and not corupted, so then they thought they were a vampire and drove a stake through them and cut out their heart. I can't show you any bodies. Don't be so stupid where would i find one to show you? There are most likely many dead bodies under ground that did not rot but we can't see them to know, and if anyone did find them incorroupt they just buried them again.
Allexx if you are going to make the claim you have to back it up, otherwise you come off looking "stupid". Can you find an article, anything to back up what your saying?
I read about this somwhere. I have also seen TV programs on the History channel etc. lots of times about this when it has to do with vampires or old folklore in the 1800's before embalming, in Europe and America. Of course none of these people had cameras or would take pictures of these dead people in them days. The corspes were only reported to be fresh looking & had red blood flowing, soft skin even after a year in the grave, and they looked alive, but were actually dead. I make no claim
Hi, I`m from Argentina and Eva Peron`s body was embalmed indeed.. Even though the body is not well preserved..On the other hand there have been many saints that have not been embalmed and look as if they just died.
Show me where they contradict scripture, and who exactly has said anything to contradict scripture.
You made some major logical fallacies in your argument. One was to propose something and then answer it for me without waiting for my answer on it.
Another one is 'silly ppl' - this is known as 'ad hominem' - another common logical fallacy. So before calling names, maybe you'd like to check for any inconsistencies in your argument before proclaiming it to the world.
as for the atheist thing, all it takes is good embalming. if you use a strong preserver bodies can last a really long time. I personally don't think religion has anything to do with it. Just look at Lenin's body. still in perfect shape and he was a communist.
To be considered incorruptible, the body has not undergone any preserving methods such as embalming or mummification. Lenin's body was embalmed unlike the Incorruptibles.
i mean't john XXIII, this pope in the video (see below comment). when i was at the vatican at the end of last year they confirmed this for me. There are, however, many other TRUE incorrup saints of the church such as St. Bernadette Soubirous, the visionary of Lourdes.
John XXII was, according to the Vatican report, embalmed and covered with a thin layer of wax. Actually, when the story broke at his beatification in 2000 that he was incorrupt, the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano jumped to correct this with a detailed description of the embalming process.
I'm a catholic and defiantly believe in miracles, but these are wax molds added onto the face and hands. It is true that most of the body did not decay, but what your are seeing here is simply a wax mask.
marko5080 4 months ago
NO IT DOSENT
cjzzzzz 1 year ago
@XrunkoalaX We will see, but what will you do, if your are wrong, hm?
zocsike 1 year ago
god
starbabe58 2 years ago
thanks for the vid. I have seen many incorruptables, before I had a video camera!
PrincessJuJuBear 2 years ago
@PrincessJuJuBear you're welcome! :)
xhormonix 1 year ago
@PrincessJuJuBear you're welcome :)
xhormonix 11 months ago
Even if a person is embalmed it doesn't take long for them to become dirt. Jesus was incorrupt in the tomb. This saint belonged to the mystical body of Christ. And his walk was so close that the Lord is now witnessing to the world that he is alive in Him in heaven. Science can't explain it, it's a miracle. Look at St. Bernadette's body, it looks like she's sleeping, and she's been dead for 150 yrs!
icimblind 2 years ago 3
@icimblind St Bernadette is covered in wax, they already confessed that. The person in the vid is also waxed.
And how can the body of Jesus been incorrupted? He was only dead for 3 days!
MartinaMovies 3 months ago
@MartinaMovies
Her face was covered because of excessive cleaning and handling, but her body is free from wax., is intact, and free from decay. Her organs are flexible. She is Not embalmed. Abiotic,the degradation of a substance by chemical or physical processes has Not occurred in her. Any human body begins to break down immediately after death. How can you explain this living miracle when science can't? David predicted Christ's body would be incorruptible centuries before it happened.
icimblind 3 months ago
@icimblind But Jesus is alive my friend, he only has been dead for 3 days. they embalmed Him, so the Bible tells us. St Bernadettes hands and face are wax indeed, because her skin felt in and she looked not so nice anymore. The rest of her body is we cannot see. Only the church knows. I dont say i dont believe it. I keep every option open:) But I think we should not honour bodies of the dead people. The only One who deserves all the honour is Jesus. Thats how I think about it
MartinaMovies 3 months ago
@MartinaMovies
They never embalmed Jesus. Do you know what that even means? They prepared his body externally with their customs that's it. 3 days and two nights in the tomb you'd be pretty ripe. And you need to read what examinations they did on St. Bernadette's body. It wasn't just the Church. That's documented and an historical fact, that's why it is so impressive. By displaying the body, Jesus is getting all the glory. Who do you think is preserving the corpse? Jesus is incorruptible!
icimblind 3 months ago
@icimblind Most of the incorruptables have wax or wood masks.
How about the Buddhist monk that lay incorrupt for forty years? No mask.
Religion is mythology some people are indoctrinated and gullible enough to believe.
resonantdave 2 months ago
@resonantdave
Just because the Catholic incorruptibles have a thin layer of wax over their face doesn't nullify they are incorrupt. Most of them still have their blood and organs in them and are not preserved like the Buddhist monks with bromide salts. You are just revealing what you don't know on the subjects or what you've been indoctrinated to through ignorance of atheism.
icimblind 2 months ago
eww
coolkid8900 2 years ago
He was embalmed, if there was a god he would have not died to begin with, yeah right! the infinite and omega who supposedly created all matter in the universe did not have enough power to keep him alive but he did indeed keep him from decaying, use your brain.
Emamnuelguzman86 2 years ago
It`s just the will of GOD, if someone read te Bible there are many texts about "incorrupted or incorruption".-
keestijm 2 years ago
i would like to know how they keep the bodies looking like they r just sleeping.
stars1976 2 years ago
God.
gouarts2 2 years ago
I do want to know why the catholics dig up certain people in the first place? Do they make them Saints only after the bodies are not corrrupt for a certain amount of years or what? Why did they dug up Saint Bernadette and then re-bury her so many times before displaying her ?
allexx123 3 years ago
Catholics dig up certain people for numerous reasons. Sometimes bodies need to be relocated- often in the past, they were moved to more suitable burial grounds. Sometimes robbers broke in. Sometimes a graveyard was moving. etc.... And yes, the body must remain incorrupt for a certain number of years before it is deemed 'incorruptible'; however, the Church does not accept incorruptibility any longer as a miracle for sainthood.
EuaDeLa 2 years ago
Wow. I don't suppose you have heard of "embalming"? Ya think it has something to with this?
tberthaume 3 years ago
No, do a little research in the web and you'll find it has nothing to do with embalming, nor mummification, natural or artificial. I've heard about "saponification", but I don't have more information about it.
miabuelitatocaelpian 2 years ago
When a body is taken from the grave and placed by the altar like Pope John 23rd, the faces are covered. Its a wax lay over as with the hands. His bones are laid out and he is vested in his robes. Another example would be St Anthony in Padua, Italy. In the 1980s, Pope John Paul II, had his body "lie out" in a glass tomb at the church. Same with him. He was "lied out" for a while and was re-buried.
God Bless them. All Holy Men and Women!
ntrots 3 years ago
Yeah, Pope JPII wasn't embalmed. I guess he is still doing pretty well. Born (8 May 1920. Died 2 April 2005)
icimblind 3 years ago
I hear JPII put up a hell of a fight. "I'm not quite dead yet!"
mimi2957 3 years ago
Other people have been dug up and not all are saints. Some were dug up because they were suspected as being vampires, and some of the bodies were incorrupt. It probally happens a lot but not every body is dug up to find out.
allexx123 3 years ago
Show me the incorrupt vampires(lol), show me the incorrupt bodies of other people buried in the same conditions as this saint.
icimblind 3 years ago
You missunderstood. People thought a person was a vampire after they dug their bodies up and found the bodies were supple and not corupted, so then they thought they were a vampire and drove a stake through them and cut out their heart. I can't show you any bodies. Don't be so stupid where would i find one to show you? There are most likely many dead bodies under ground that did not rot but we can't see them to know, and if anyone did find them incorroupt they just buried them again.
allexx123 3 years ago
Allexx if you are going to make the claim you have to back it up, otherwise you come off looking "stupid". Can you find an article, anything to back up what your saying?
icimblind 3 years ago
I read about this somwhere. I have also seen TV programs on the History channel etc. lots of times about this when it has to do with vampires or old folklore in the 1800's before embalming, in Europe and America. Of course none of these people had cameras or would take pictures of these dead people in them days. The corspes were only reported to be fresh looking & had red blood flowing, soft skin even after a year in the grave, and they looked alive, but were actually dead. I make no claim
allexx123 3 years ago
This does not even look real, it looks like a wax or some other material. almost like a butter sculptured head.
allexx123 3 years ago
They do put a layer of wax on the bodies so they can dust them.
Jaynagurl1 3 years ago
@Jaynagurl1 it is not a "layer" of wax.
St. Bernadettes skin turned completely black after a few hours of air exposure, so they made a *mask* that you cannot see through and holds its form.
resonantdave 2 months ago
@resonantdave I heard that story too...
Jaynagurl1 2 months ago
Lenin is perserved and they keep putting his body into a bath of stuff to keep him from rotting
allexx123 3 years ago
Hi, I`m from Argentina and Eva Peron`s body was embalmed indeed.. Even though the body is not well preserved..On the other hand there have been many saints that have not been embalmed and look as if they just died.
flavourL 3 years ago 3
"He is not the God of the dead but of the living." Jesus Mt. 22
hernquin2008 3 years ago
i dont get it...
xavyier 3 years ago
Pope John XXIII was embalming, it isn't a secret and the church has never said it is a miracle.
But the body of some saints stay incorrupted without embalming (for exemple Saint Jean Marie Vianney).
bzhseat 3 years ago
may GOD still bless you... Lord, lead him to YOU..
jasonbugoy 3 years ago 3
saint bernadette
jds28m 3 years ago
May all these miracles point us to Jesus Christ in the most blessed Sacrament of the Altar.
crstprst 3 years ago 5
Show me where they contradict scripture, and who exactly has said anything to contradict scripture.
You made some major logical fallacies in your argument. One was to propose something and then answer it for me without waiting for my answer on it.
Another one is 'silly ppl' - this is known as 'ad hominem' - another common logical fallacy. So before calling names, maybe you'd like to check for any inconsistencies in your argument before proclaiming it to the world.
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago 5
Oh,ohhhhh..A scientist on deck.
8122556 3 years ago
Ooohh... you have no idea...
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
I'm I right?lolo
8122556 3 years ago
??? What on earth
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
You deal with dead people(Funeral home)?^^lol
8122556 3 years ago
-.- err no
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
Okay, so what is it? You got me wondering here..^^
8122556 3 years ago
lol. You're cool, you're cool.
charlesviolin 3 years ago
as for the atheist thing, all it takes is good embalming. if you use a strong preserver bodies can last a really long time. I personally don't think religion has anything to do with it. Just look at Lenin's body. still in perfect shape and he was a communist.
xashleyxisxhardcorex 4 years ago
To be considered incorruptible, the body has not undergone any preserving methods such as embalming or mummification. Lenin's body was embalmed unlike the Incorruptibles.
LuganMan26 4 years ago 5
But they agree to having preserved him.
The Church already has told us though that the incorruptible nature of this particular body is due to the way his coffin was sealed.
They infact made this statement when it was first opened so that people wouldn't say false things.
There are however other bodies that have been in perfect shape, no preservers and the Church has stated it as so.
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
i mean't john XXIII, this pope in the video (see below comment). when i was at the vatican at the end of last year they confirmed this for me. There are, however, many other TRUE incorrup saints of the church such as St. Bernadette Soubirous, the visionary of Lourdes.
j6947j 4 years ago
John XXII was, according to the Vatican report, embalmed and covered with a thin layer of wax. Actually, when the story broke at his beatification in 2000 that he was incorrupt, the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano jumped to correct this with a detailed description of the embalming process.
j6947j 4 years ago 3
babycatt, believe in truth what God reveals to his choosen people is real. that is faith we need faith not what you think is foolish.
johnnel06 4 years ago
may be this is Pope John xxiii
EYANFIAN 4 years ago
Um, which Pope?
cstina 4 years ago