These are the 2 minutes which confirmed my opinion of J. Bach, who actually didn't write much outside of the German language. This is probably the best presentation of the hymn on Youtube, in my opinion, from having downloaded about every one--except for the disappointing (!) fact that it is only in 240p.
@bachkirche I think he may well have known how well he would be loved by the future. Other than the sheer joy of composing, there is no logical explanation why he would compose a mammoth piece like the Mass in B minor or the Art of the Fugue. He well knew that he was the 'sleeper of sleepers'. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Schoenberg although he seemed to feel his time was yet to come. Imo it is his 20th century intellectualism that killed the common man's realization of good music
@GV32 - I tend to think it was Schoenberg's deliberate rejection of the obvious (tonality) that killed most people's appreciation of his music. And as far as I'm concerned, that was the fate it deserved. I'm not saying everything has to sound like any kind of Western music in order to be "tonal"; I'm saying there are psychoacoustical laws we ignore at our peril and that most world music has the sense to follow.
Now really.....what of it? Do you really think that such a thing would bother Bach; after all, he used different instruments on most of his works for different occassions. That is part of his genius, which was to have a particular work played with different instrumentation. He is, after all, the master of improvization; still the master arranger.
@skyler807 You are making a mistake. This is the 1723 first version of the Magnificat, it is in E-flat. The definite version is the one of 1731, with the key in D. There the oboes play the "tonus peregrinus" instead of the flute, and the recorders (here) where changed to trnaverso flutes. This is the Magnificat in E-flat BWV 243a.
@skyler807 it is supposed to be played by a trumpet, and an oboe played with you. usually oboes played it because this piece calls for an Eb natural trumpet, and the common natural trumpets were in C and D, and played only in those keys until invention of valved trumpets&horns. the options are: play in D, play with oboe, play with valved trumpet... or find an Eb natural trumpet
I was a first... and I completely agree with you. That just goes to show that he made every line interesting and exciting, yet fit in with such a harmony that is absolutely breathtaking. It is quite humbling to sing such music... especially when you take into account that this guy composed movements like this in less than twenty or so minutes.
Our director has decided to put three to a part in this movement, and I will be one of the altos. This movement is absolutely exquisite, and I'm so excited to get the chance to be a part of it!
I'm not sure, but I think you might be talking about Gardiner, who used soloists for this movement instead of the choral sections. In the case that my assumptions are correct, the soloists would be Nancy Argenta, Patrizia Kwella, and Charles Brett.
I LOVE the way Bach uses dissonance in this piece to create an ambience! Superb! Although, my favorite rendition of this particular movement is a one-voice-per-part version with 2 S and a Countertenor :D
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Alguna persona tiene las partes del magnificat de Bach que faltan con Koopman. Que por favor las suba. Muchas gracias
lollito666killjoy 3 weeks ago
These are the 2 minutes which confirmed my opinion of J. Bach, who actually didn't write much outside of the German language. This is probably the best presentation of the hymn on Youtube, in my opinion, from having downloaded about every one--except for the disappointing (!) fact that it is only in 240p.
vivjfriday 4 months ago
Hallelujah!!!
Andrew4Handel 1 year ago
My favorite movement. Divine!
dnggitg 1 year ago
an splendid masterpiece
beethomozart 1 year ago
Ton Koopman has reached legendary status.
mdeonx16 2 years ago
the gates of heaven to our senses...
robertcouturier 2 years ago
I REALLY LOVE IT!!
MY FAVOURITE PART IS: 0:57-1:12 Minute
StellaBCM 3 years ago
That's my favorite part too. If only Bach could have known how much He would be loved in the centuries following His passing.
bachkirche 2 years ago 8
@bachkirche I think he may well have known how well he would be loved by the future. Other than the sheer joy of composing, there is no logical explanation why he would compose a mammoth piece like the Mass in B minor or the Art of the Fugue. He well knew that he was the 'sleeper of sleepers'. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Schoenberg although he seemed to feel his time was yet to come. Imo it is his 20th century intellectualism that killed the common man's realization of good music
GV32 1 year ago 2
@GV32 - I tend to think it was Schoenberg's deliberate rejection of the obvious (tonality) that killed most people's appreciation of his music. And as far as I'm concerned, that was the fate it deserved. I'm not saying everything has to sound like any kind of Western music in order to be "tonal"; I'm saying there are psychoacoustical laws we ignore at our peril and that most world music has the sense to follow.
rakkav 8 months ago
Ya my chorus is singing this song at our next concert. I'm also a second soprano..
Spacagna13 3 years ago
what church is this???please writteme.
samujazz 3 years ago
actually it's my school chorus. the concert was last night
Spacagna13 3 years ago
Thomaskirche Leipzig
St.Thomas Curch in Leipzig,Germany
Mirek6010 2 years ago
just lovely
imgoinghomenow 3 years ago
Isn't the trumpet part really supposed to be the oboe's?
car2052 3 years ago 2
I think so? Yeah. That trumpet is really bothering me. I sang this in Barcelona and I remember that it is supposed to be played by the oboe's.
skyler807 3 years ago 4
Now really.....what of it? Do you really think that such a thing would bother Bach; after all, he used different instruments on most of his works for different occassions. That is part of his genius, which was to have a particular work played with different instrumentation. He is, after all, the master of improvization; still the master arranger.
blogger314 3 years ago 2
@skyler807 You are making a mistake. This is the 1723 first version of the Magnificat, it is in E-flat. The definite version is the one of 1731, with the key in D. There the oboes play the "tonus peregrinus" instead of the flute, and the recorders (here) where changed to trnaverso flutes. This is the Magnificat in E-flat BWV 243a.
zariguella1930 11 months ago
@skyler807 it is supposed to be played by a trumpet, and an oboe played with you. usually oboes played it because this piece calls for an Eb natural trumpet, and the common natural trumpets were in C and D, and played only in those keys until invention of valved trumpets&horns. the options are: play in D, play with oboe, play with valved trumpet... or find an Eb natural trumpet
ericoschmitt 10 months ago
don't think so... I've always heard it done on trumpet... perhaps if there is no trumpet player available
CoulterOrganbuilder 3 years ago
Bach often revised his works for repeat performances.
This is the earlier version (Magnifcat in E-flat BWV 243a). It uses a trumpet to intone the Magnificat plainsong.
The later version (Magnificat in D, BWV 243) uses two oboes in unison.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago
Bach's magnificat was truly annointed by God.
crob647gtx 3 years ago
i had the pleasure of being a second soprano when we put on this piece in my choral group. it's an honor to perform this.
gabrielepsycho 4 years ago
I was a first... and I completely agree with you. That just goes to show that he made every line interesting and exciting, yet fit in with such a harmony that is absolutely breathtaking. It is quite humbling to sing such music... especially when you take into account that this guy composed movements like this in less than twenty or so minutes.
KaitousFlame 3 years ago
I prefer solists but this is really nice!
141407078989 4 years ago
Our director has decided to put three to a part in this movement, and I will be one of the altos. This movement is absolutely exquisite, and I'm so excited to get the chance to be a part of it!
astrotam 4 years ago
yes, it is exquisite!
141407078989 4 years ago 2
I'm going to be first soprano in this piece.
Clavemaior 4 years ago
i love this song! i was the second soprano part!
missgigi123 4 years ago
PS: I don't remember which soloists
OrpheoCT 4 years ago
I'm not sure, but I think you might be talking about Gardiner, who used soloists for this movement instead of the choral sections. In the case that my assumptions are correct, the soloists would be Nancy Argenta, Patrizia Kwella, and Charles Brett.
moskva40 4 years ago
I LOVE the way Bach uses dissonance in this piece to create an ambience! Superb! Although, my favorite rendition of this particular movement is a one-voice-per-part version with 2 S and a Countertenor :D
OrpheoCT 4 years ago
One of the most passionate moving and beautiful works Bach ever wrote...and Koopman renders it superbly....tears in mine eyes....
songblam 4 years ago
As far as I know, Bach was very open minded musically. And yes, he was a very solid protestant believer.
collectkit 5 years ago
Although Bach was Protestant, this piece sounds very 'catholic'...
Great performance!
firebreathone 5 years ago
This is one of my favourite Bach's pieces.
maewe 5 years ago