Front Mission 5 - Arena Battle NIGHTMARES

[danielpogreb]

i have a fuly subed version of fm5. you can download the patched game from - the pirats bay

[danielpogreb]

note that fm5 actualy ends when fm 3 begins. thats way you cant get the beam rifle, its invented in fm3. this game actualy shows how fm3 started and brings clousure to all the priveus games

[wanzerxac]

Holy Shit its Lukav Minaev!!! He should have piloted the Kehei 0 (I know, I know...its the BEAM)

[XxXDarKAkantoRXxX]

how do you unlock characters in order to battle them in Arena Mode

[sheldini2002]

Downlaod the ISO, get the English patch, play it with PCSX2

[holydribubble]

FM3 was a game I grew up with, and I tell ya what, I soo wanna get this just to beat the shit out of Lukav xD! Anyone got a portable MIDAS handy? xD

[chizuka123]

front mission3 is more epic!!!

[TheShadowStalker07]

@chizuka123 sure dude 

[V3NOMXIII]

@chizuka123 you haven't played the FM5

[Psychopozzie2]

you been using the battle sim? you know u could unlock some weps.. i have ARTASSAULT on my Walter. modded it. it is sick!!!! walter is the strongest one on mine. couldnt bother with upgrades and cash for others, mostly repair backpacks

[theRITTZer]

@imbeginner

Actually, its more like skating around, and if you actually watched the video they do evade.

Its amazing fluidity for a Turn based game... Go play your mindless shooter and stop complaining about things you know nothing about! ;)

[QwoPhasaArius]

Wanzers - The only mechs that actually move and look like machines. Fuck yeah.

[Sicj]

So did anybody ever iso this game and tranlate it for an emulator.. stopped playing FF4 after i heard FF5 wasnt being brought here.. have all the others. Guess ill have to do some snooping.. i heard some ppl were emuating it a while back but idk anymore.

[wtfman880]

Yay, Driscoll! This is why Front Mission DS got a T rating. HIM ALONE.

[LegaiaRules]

@wtfman880 E10+ but close. I think it's less on him and more on the content FM1 has that would give it that rating (or a T if the dialogue wasn't toned down a bit).

[Lakword2]

i was sure lukav was a lday.... Ugly lady... Well gues i was wrong

[GloveMC]

@Lakword2 LOL

[Kaizenist]

LegaiaRULES!!!!!!

[MeganMoriyama]

Rolf Wagner!!!!!! does he still have gepard?

[hiclrokii]

@MeganMoriyama

no unfortanly :(

[GloveMC]

@MeganMoriyama that i was wondering, is he using the Gepard 9 in here?

[hiclrokii]

is this game only for the Japanese PS2?

Dang.....their names do tell themselves and i do agree Driscoll was a monster>.>

also i would never expected seeing Lukav again(even tho i still have FM3 but i thought he died in the game) But still....wasent Rolf Wagner the old guy in the beginning of FM4 when your the girl?

[LegaiaRules]

The FM characters that appear in the Arena are virtual simulations. Wagner is the German major that you meet early on the Durandal scenario.

[Psychopozzie2]

@LegaiaRules i hate him.... any tips on taking him down easier? for me i had to equip everyone with bazookas and rifles... pain in the ass

[ShadoVRaven1337]

Pretty nice video, I need to get there and try it out.

[Klonfuzius]

lol are they really so strong ? I managed to annihilate them by the first time, without a member dieing xD

Maybe because I'm a little Wanzer perfectionist ? ^^

[LegaiaRules]

This team's real difficulty comes primarily from Driscoll. All he needs to down anyone is 2-3 melee critical hits (unless you have a Terror Wolf body). And he won't need much luck since he has a 1/3 chance of getting a melee critical. He alone can take out a 3-man team; Lukav and Wagner are there purely so he gets more shots to melee you.

[Allcard14]

Lukav from FM 3 ??!!

[LegaiaRules]

The other part of the difficulty comes down to the gear. It's pretty hard to win using only Hangar stuff, but it's a lot easier with Hard Mode-only items. Either way, as long as you take Driscoll out, you've won the fight.

[Klonfuzius]

That's right I spend dozens of hours to collect good gear... My Team was: Walter: Wanzer-Set: Zenith RV Weapons: Grave 2,State EX Hector Body: Crustacia Arms: Vapor (Repair + 40%) Legs: Desmatz BP: Repair Weapons: Peak Gaza, SP06-SD Ingame this Wanzer looks like a Shunwang ^^

[Klonfuzius]

And Laura (S-Type Gunner):

Body: Luftritter

Arms: Grille Sechs D

Weapons: Firebird 2

Legs: Luftrauber

[LegaiaRules]

Ah, yeah you shouldn't have much of a problem with this kind of setup. Downgrade your equipment a fair bit and those 3 won't have problems ending it quickly. Conversely, you could end it much more quickly by employing a Striker and equipping any of the 2 Dasler Claw parts (Driscoll has one).

[Klonfuzius]

My Darril had one ^^

[Natorusama]

coolest part of FM.. ^^

[GameFreakWOOT]

thank god driscoll doesnt use his big azz wanzer on u -.-

[chinito77]

No USA release, so unfair! :(

[EstimateVS]

Im sad theres no FM5 on english =((

[Klonfuzius]

lol owned by the fist ^^

[kreidas]

Is there an eject punch/eject shot in this game?

[Klonfuzius]

no, since FM4 there is no eject, stun or surround funktion...

[dullKnife]

since fm4 us never got fm5 :(

[jkjkhardcore666]

you can buy the japanese version of this game and patch it with an english patch. so far though the entire game has not been translated with the patch but is well on its way by december 30th or so it should have most things good to go.

[tonydeadlock]

y is diz not coming out in Da US i got 3 and 4 and i saw that 5 was coming out i was like yay then io find out it aint coming out in the us $_$

[dracula103192]

When does this game take place because the ds one took place in the 2nd Huffman Conflict and there was a person called Discroll. So that is why i am asking the time this took place.

[vguyver2]

timeline wise it takes place before Front Mission 3 but after front mission 1,2, and 4. The fact you get to meet Emma before she even created MIDAS shows that. I think they have a timeline around the net somewhere.

[LegaiaRules]

2070 to 2121.

[Deathsanras]

They never do what I want in the damn arena!

I've seen wansers with repair BP and enough AP walk away from the enemy and do nothing for 2 turns then come back in range and get shot.

Anyone know how to effect their actions?

[LegaiaRules]

I wrote a bit on what causes the AI to act in my arena guide. Best bet is to stick with Aggressive pilot types and avoid equipping Repair or EMP BPs.

[plaj1359]

AVOID EQUIPING REPAIRS?

WTH MAN ARE YOU CRAZY

maby thats why u lost

[LegaiaRules]

The AI is scripted to attack less if a Repair or EMP BP is equipped, especially with a Mechanic and a non-Aggressive type pilot. A better solution is use an Aggressive type and load up an Item BP with Repair or All Repair items.

[FrontMissionFan]

No repair backpack in the arena is best. AI can focus on attacking more and less turns wasted on repairs. And he lost cuz this is the hardest arena team to beat. Even hard mode-exclusive gear is no guarantee of victory.

[zZer0o]

Has anyone tried this on HD Loader or HD Advanced?

[deathdrone82]

howcome part of this is japanese and part of this is English? and when you think about it, this is just like a game on chess. lol ill still play it.

[Nytezero]

Lukav Minaev woo!

[hel257]

lol driscoll from fm1 and wagner from 4part :D i need to get this game fast :D hell fast

[Galherios]

You guys are complaining about not having this awesome game?

And us PALs don't even get 4 !!

[Scysmith]

OMG !

I never played FM4&5, but seems really cool !

On FM1 is such a hell kill the last Driscol, just like this one

[iamthedave3]

So stupid. Why release two games in a row in NA, then not release another when its part of the same series and there's a fanbase?

I'd love to play this, unfortunately, I don't speak Japanese.

[helloimme92]

front mission 3 is stil better than this =P

[LegaiaRules]

If you're judging in terms of what a game has, FM3 doesn't even come close to FM5. FM5 is top dog in all categories except strategic depth and execution, which still belongs to FM2. FM3's a love-or-hate game at best. Long-time fans hate it for poor balancing and lack of strategy. Newcomers like it because of the so-called "first game in series that gained attention overseas" effect(most obvious with Final Fantasy VII).

[Sicj]

Well after playing FM1 and FM2 FM3 FM4 but not FM5. I have to say I would have loved the first 2 as much as 3 or 4. There all great games. Japan could have done more to get these games off their shelves and to the masses here in the US.

[Zero525768]

Whoa, now this is what I call 'battle', in Front mission 4, its still good but compared to this, f4 kinda sux, im gettin it IF its out in north america.

[LegaiaRules]

No, FM5's not coming out in North America. Square Enix may have let FM 1st for the DS come out, but that's only because it likely costs next to nothing to localize it.

[Zero525768]

i no if ppl buy fm 1 for ds, SE might localize fm5, if they did then awesome but if we cant then can you give me the site to download this? i'll figure out how to transfer

[raso123456]

its translated by some fans so look for it on web and down it there is an instruction how to burn it and play

[Sicj]

Excuse me plz explain exactly how you are playing this in English. How did you get the game. How to burn it and play it on what system?

[raso123456]

hey ask LegaiaRules he knows more all credits to him and his team for hard work really gratefull thx ppl.and its only translated soo much wip.and how did u play fm2 its jap only as i know.

[joacocockihotmail]

hey, is this game available for playstation 2?

[ahmadov]

does anyone know how to use the scouts in this game

[CoyoteWildfire]

Lol, well man, if you got something just as good for a decent price, I'm not gonna complain. Have you gotten FM1st yet?

[JonathanFerGold]

Do you want to own Front Mission 5: Scars of the War in a pure English rendition?

If so, then please sign the following petition at: (Double-u)(Double-u)(Double-u)­(Dot)petitiononline(Dot)com/fm 5sotw/petition.html

If you truly want to own this game, I suggest you do sign the petition! We are going to need all the help we can get.

P.S: This isn't obvious so I must make mention of it. After copying and pasting the address provided, make sure there is no space between the "fm" and the "5".

[minicm122]

hey anyone answer this, but does the japaneese lagnuage matter for this game honeslty?

[LegaiaRules]

Er, FM is a Japanese IP created by a Japanese company. Hence why it gets released there first and overseas(only 1st, 3, and 4) second. FM is also far more popular and well-known in Japan so obviously it matters to the Japanese audience.

[LegaiaRules]

Walter uses Zenith S, a Hard Mode-exclusive unit. It has the lowest part HP, but its Set Bonus abilities are godly(ex. Auto Repair 25%). Only powerful attacks can bypass its defensive abilities. Driscoll uses Raven with Desmatz Legs. The Raven Claw can do Critical hits(x 3) and that's what killed Walter. And yes, the Gepard Neun is playable and the redesign is pretty slick. Another Hard-Mode exclusive monster.

[BossofNOD]

Strange, why i can't find any description of Gepard Neum in any FAQs? I think that Gepard is remodelling of Grille Shechs, right? If not, on what floors on Survival Sim i can get it?

[FrontMissionFan]

Grille Sechs only appear from floors 61 and higher, it's hard mode-only gear.

[BossofNOD]

I get it now. Thats not Gepard, it is Grille Shechs H. Anyways, it looks good

Btw, on hard mode, can I access all levels at Survival Sim at once, or I need to go through the game to get all of them?

[LegaiaRules]

Not to be picky, but its Sechs (translates into "6" in German), not Shechs. The build is Sechs H-Body, Sechs-Arms, and Zenith-Legs because the Gepard series is a successor model based off of the Igel/Grille line. As for Survival Simulator, check my hard mode guide for more details.

[BossofNOD]

How have you learnt the story of Gepard? It sounds pretty interesting.

Yeah, I'm using your FAQs. Thank you, they are very helpful

btw, is Leosocial buyable weapon?

[BossofNOD]

about Leosocial, I found the answer

[slyguy121]

Lukav owns

[JonathanFerGold]

Everybody, please buy Front Mission 1st for the Nintendo DS to support Front Mission's success outside of Japan and the possibility of Front Mission 5's localization!

Please!

[paulman34340]

"smiles" just picked up my copy of Front Mission 1st on wensday and loving it hope they do localize this game and make a remake on the psp for front mission 2 and 3

[JonathanFerGold]

YES ME TOO!!!!

[JonathanFerGold]

Yes! Me too!

[CoyoteWildfire]

To all, I contacted tech support on the Square Enix website about getting a localization of FM5. PLEASE DO THE SAME. This is my conversation with support (I have put -- around areas worth noting, PLEASE READ THIS):

The next available Agent will be with you in a moment.

You have been connected to SER Neil.

SER Neil: Hello, CoyoteWildfire, thank you for contacting the Square Enix Support Center. Just a few moments while I review your question, please.

[CoyoteWildfire]

SER Neil: Nothing has been announced about a North American release date for that title. This is not to say it will never happen in the future, just currently SQUARE ENIX is focusing on other projects.

CoyoteWildfire: I figured as much. I'm guessing it's not very high priority?

SER Neil: There isn't really anything I can suggest for you to do, as influence for a games release does not help in getting a Japanese title over to North America.

[CoyoteWildfire]

CoyoteWildfire: Okay, that's understandable. Would it be too much to ask what factors go into bringing a game here?

SER Neil: I really don't have that information.

SER Neil: the decision is passed down from our parent company in Japan.

--CoyoteWildfire: Really? So the Japanese company actually dictates what games get to be released here?--

SER Neil: That is correct.

[CoyoteWildfire]

CoyoteWildfire: So if I were to contact someone about getting the game an American release, I would have to ask a representative from the Japanese company. Do you think my chances of being "heard" would be slim?

--SER Neil: Yes, honestly CoyoteWildfire, youhave done all you need. Your interest via this chat will be reported to Japan.--

[CoyoteWildfire]

CoyoteWildfire: Fantastic. If it means anything, I know two other people personally that would love to have the game released here as well.

CoyoteWildfire: I guess all I'll do now is cross my fingers. That or belt down on my Japanese and get learning...

SER Neil: Are there any other issues I can assist you with right now, CoyoteWildfire?

CoyoteWildfire: Nope, thanks for your help Neil, I appreciate it.

[CoyoteWildfire]

SER Neil: Anytime! Thank you for visiting our Square Enix Chat line, CoyoteWildfire!

CoyoteWildfire: My pleasure.

Your session has ended. You may now close this window.

[JonathanFerGold]

Good job brother!

I am gonna e-mail Square-Enix whenever I get the chance. I've been so busy lately, I haven't had the time to advocate the localization process of Front Mission games.

But yeah, great work. Contacting Japan.... And letting them know we can help them produce sales as long as they release this game as well as all the other Japanese-exclusive Front Mission titles.

[CoyoteWildfire]

You're welcome man. Good luck, I hope people heed this... I really would like 5 to be released here, even though 4 was released four years ago.

[JonathanFerGold]

Well I'm hoping alot of people bought Front Mission 1st for the Nintendo DS.

I tried to get it a week later and it ended up being sold out.... So that's a great sign!

: )

[JonathanFerGold]

Also, be sure to sign that Front Mission 5 petition.... Regardless of success rate.

[CoyoteWildfire]

I signed the petition.

And it's definitely a great sign that FM1 for DS has been selling well. I actually preordered two copies when it came out. (One for me, and one for my brother's Christmas present.)

I'd easily buy the game, and buy it for my friends even.

[JonathanFerGold]

Nice, nice!.... Yeah, I'm not surprised in the least.

On a side note, I just bought myself a 65" rear projection Sony television and I just cannot wait to see how magnificant Front Mission 3 looks on it!

: )

[CoyoteWildfire]

Amusingly enough, I just started playing FM3 again. I hadn't beaten the Emma path because I got stuck on the mission against Lukav and his four other ginormo-Wanzers. Obnoxious things... I beat it though, and started on the Alisa path. :) Have fun with your new TV!!!

Btw, do you know what the Kana (or is it Kanji?) for Alisa is? I don't know whether it's supposed to be pronounced uh-LEE-suh or uh-LISS-uh.

[JonathanFerGold]

Yeah.... Front Mission 3 looks fucking kick ass on a 65" rear projection television. I'm looking at it right now.

Nope, I have no idea.

[CoyoteWildfire]

Ahaha, I'm rather jealous. I'm either stuck with one of the family's 27" CRTs (not that they're bad) or the small 16" one in my room. =P Oh well.

[JonathanFerGold]

I got a really good deal on it because I bought it used off of Ebay with no shipping and handling charges.

[CoyoteWildfire]

Wow. Great deal! Especially right before Christmas. Must be nice... Does it come with HDMI, DVI, and/or Component?

[JonathanFerGold]

Yes sir.

However, the rear projection TVs seem to be obsolete and are no longer manufactured. But I'm glad because now my TV is vintage and yet it is capable of handling any technological premises available today.

[CoyoteWildfire]

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. :) I don't know why rear projection is obsolete with all those features, but hey, I'm sure you're not complaining.

[JonathanFerGold]

The newer projection TVs just got thinner and lighter, that's really pretty much it.

[raijinzz]

@JonathanFerGold I know you mean well, but it's a waste of time. Squenix aren't even bothered to make the next FM game themselves, choosing to outsource it to an american dev team instead. Sorry.

[Zarathusra]

Well i'm gonna go off on a limb and assume Driscoll was the main antagonist from FM1? I know Lukav and Wagner were Primary Antagonists from FM3 and FM4 respectively.

[LegaiaRules]

Correct.

[FrontMissionFan]

these are the toughest team to beat, even using a boss wanzer. it's all driscoll, but wagner and lukav aren't that bad either

[JonathanFerGold]

Yeah but Lukav is a badass motherfucking villain (The Sephiroth of FM IMO)...

I didn't touch 1 and 4 yet, so I know nothing of Driscoll or Wagner.

[alucard48]

good video but they got you at the end lol better chance next time! anyway i'm still waiting for an english version because i don't understand japon (wake up S-E)

[LegaiaRules]

Thanks. The new videos should be enough to get the juices flowing for others to take notice.. I do hope SE localizes this before PS2 actually dies in terms of sales. And for the battle outcome, it happens with this team a lot despite me using boss/special units.