I'm so glad Dame Joan was able to teach Pava how to breath for singing! As he once said, to breath as he did here one "would soon pop like a frog"!--lol
I think Pava, being the very intelligent, humble, man he was, is attempting to be "politically correct" for lack of a better term. In my humble opinion, he realizes to name himself or Domingo as the best invites argument from either Domingo or Pava fans. However, to name Aragall, another Spaniard, quells any argument Domingo may have since Aragall is a fellow Spaniard, and Pava fans simply know it isn't true!
pavarotti even in his worst day could outsing argall. He was too much humble, he was unfair to himself which isn't so good.he sholdnt have said that argalls voice is the best one because that way he is lying and speaking nonsense.pavarotti's voice was better than any operatic voice ever.
bullshit. pavarotti was FAR FAR BETTER than placido and argall together. He had a more beautiful and agile voice, a far louder voice, better technique he killed them in every performance. Pavarotti here is trying to show his big heart but this is not the right way, by lying. Pavarotti had far better ,louder, smoother,more beautiful and fuller voice than argall and domingo together.
Can someone tell me who the other "really good tenor" Luciano mentions towards the end of this clip other than himself and Domingo? Rigaldo or something like that. I'd like to look him up. This video is WONDERFUL and how blessed are we to have YT and video clips to enjoy his gift over and over. Thank you!
he mentions Domingo and Aragall. Giacomo Aragall also called Jaime Aragall I believe. He was truly one of the most beautiful tenor voices, acclaimed by his colleagues, but plagued with awful nerves. There is much of his work here on YOU TUBE for you to hear.
Even at this early stage in his career he sounds better than any young tenor these days...by the way...there has to be a complete video of this performance...why would anyone record a segment of it and stop...?
no other tenor had the perfection of his voice. NO ONE. Perfect high notes, perfect low notes, perfect vibratto, perfect thrills. I really dont care about the other ones before him, which are really good, but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them.
NO. You heard recordings! At age 23 you "may" have heard Pav. You could not have heard the "Greats" from the past. They were dead before you were born. Todays generation "thinks" they know everything about singing because they have heard "recordings" and for the most part they can not be reasoned with. Sad as it is a heritage that should be the inheritance of us all.
LOL at 23 you "may" have LISTENED to tenors who have lived since 1985 on recordings! Not a particularly stellar group when you consider all the tenors of this century. If anyone here is "full of themselves" it is you,not I. Luciano was indeed ONE of the greatest tenors of ALL time. I aodred him as a singer and as a person. Unlike you I do not claim to know everything. I only was telling you that you do HIM a great disservice by your remarks that the tenors he adored were not worth caring about.
Correction I meant to say you may have listened to tenors who lived "prior" to 1985 on recordings which is quite different from ever having heard them live and experienced their artistry in person. I am not here to pick a fight with you. If you are the artisit you say you are you already should know of what I am speaking. Let us all love the great tenors of all ages. Why is there a need to single out one as the GREATEST?
Let's see. You are 23? You do not "care about" Del Monaco, Corelli, DiStefano, Gigli, Caruso, Lauri Volpi, etc ?!?!? How do you think Pavorotti would feel about that statement? From whom did he learn. To whom did he listen? They were his mentors and his "maestri" just like he mentors tenors yet to come who listen to him. Singers pass their art generation to generation and we care about those who passed the torch to us and those to whom we will pass it. That is what being an artist is about.
Read your own initial post sonny boy. Your words "I really dont care about the other ones before him" so you are correct in at least one thing you have said.. ..this conversation indeed "OVER". . .and as I said before about people who know it all. . .there is no reasoning.
besides, YOU have to read twice: "i dont care about the other tenors before him, WHICH ARE REALLY GOOD but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them."
Pavarotti never changed his voice. As a tenor ages, his voice darkens. It's unavoidable. His voice, however, remained unique and exceptional as it evolved in the ensuing years.
yeah that's true, but he sang too much over the years and did some damage there, no question.listen to krauss and you get how the voice can REALLY last, given those changes over the maturing years
You guys have to learn that you can not say anything negative about Pav. The general public will not tolerate it. However, there NEVER lived a singer who was perfect and there never will. A trained ear can hear of what you speak, but the general public knows mostly what moves their hearts and in that regard Pav was without peer. WE elevated him to the status of a god. No one can live up to that. He strived to be the best he could at all times and in all regards but he was human..and special.
You know your right. We all loved him so. His idols deserve my respect because he admired them. It's just hard to listen to the others when my heartstrings are so tied to his voice.
I agree with that statement. He sang outside his natural fach.He was a tenore 'legiero', who bumped up to bigger roles that demanded a full lyric tenor.Like so many others,he was drawn or pushed into bigger singing, and I think that was unfortunate. Of course he sang well, but imagine the rep he might have done had he stuck with true bel canto.
We will never know how he might have mastered MORE of it.Just picture him as a coloratura. I don't think that I'm alone thinking this way. lol !
Yes, I think he was in fact a leggere tenor with an exceptionally full and round voice, but with vocal agility characteristic of the leggere. He did great with La Fille du Regiment...he should have stayed with lyric and leggere bel canto roles...even after moving to more heroic roles...he didn't sound as convincing as his 1960s-70s voice. I loved Pavarotti in the 60s and 70s...he should have stayed with bel canto...he had such a beautiful voice in that.
Pavarotti had very unique and special voice. Although he had a lyric tenor's voice, he could do very quick coloratura passages with ease like a leggiero tenor. Therefore he could sing both light roles, like Nemorino in L'elisir d'amore, or Tonio in Fille du regiment. And lyric roles as well, like the Duke in Rigoletto and Rodolfo in Boheme. In those roles I think he has every other tenor in the 20th century beat. However, when he moves into roles like Cavarodossi in Tosco or Calaf in Turandot...
I do not him like those because those are meant for heavier tenors, like Corelli, del Monaco, Lanza, etc. In those I don't prefer his voice as it sounds light and although still beautiful...he doesn't play the character through with his voice.
except Lanza...IMHO completely over rated and one whose training was incomplete.Still,he had soooo much potential,but ruined his life...so sad, and wasteful.
Lanza...overrated? Compare his voice with that of the other tenors of his era...he was the best, in my opinion. yes his training was uncomplete, but I think in the end it matters the natural voice, and Lanza had the best natural voice. But I'm not to start an argument. You can like your singers...I will like mine.
Good idea, and a mature way of looking at things.Probably more annoyed with Lanza for squandering that talent!For me Vickers is number one, followed by Corelli,Bjorling,Gedda,Krauss, and the later singers of the last century- Domingo I guess,Pavarotti,Aragal.Where are the new up and comers? There are a few good voices out there BUT too early to tell.I think Joseph Calleja(spelling?) shows promiss, and a few others.Not like the old days though - it's poor training,too heavy roles too early.Cheers
Well...opera isn't as popular as before anyways these days...people with good voices aren't willing to take risks because more than likely they will end up singing for pennies on the street while some 'pop singer' who can't sing worth a s**t becomes sucessful. Makes me fume.
couldn't agree more...and those with potential either have poor teaching or pushed beyond their talents too soon doing roles ill-suited to their voices at the time.The more I see and sing opera the worse the future looks.
yall both need to chill. opera is growing and coming back, the amount of singers and intstrumentalists in conservatories and in reg schools is outrageous. and the met s broadcasting all over the country in theatres and selling out. classical music will return in 20 years to its full potential
Finally, I still think he did a great job and some people forget that eventhough his repertoire was not wide in number and languages it was wide in styles. Of course, he was mainly belcanto master but he did excellent job in more dramatic roles like Rodolfo in '' Luisa Miller'', Calaf in ''Turandot'' (the role that was originally written for lyric tenor but later Corelli defined the role) or Manrico in ''Il trovatore''.
And I can't remember any present or past tenor who had this kind of stylistic quality without big discrepancy between belcanto roles and more dramatic roles he sung. Maybe I'm wrong but this is my point.
Please answer my comment on your Pavarotti observation. I am not sending it to you directly for I have already send it to someone else on the same clip so I don't want to repeat myself (the comment is quite big). Thank you in advance.
As far as I can remember there are seven high quality recordings of belcanto operas sung by Pavarotti : Bellini's ''Norma'', ''I Puritani'', ''La Sonnambula'' and Donizetti's ''Lucia di Lammermoor'', ''L'elisir d'amore'', ''Maria Stuarda'' and ''La fille du regiment''. I believe in these operas (''Norma''not included)he was the best or not surpassed by any other tenor. I would also add his Rodolfo (''La boheme''), Duca (''Rigoletto''), Riccardo (''Un ballo in maschera'') ...
... Rodolfo (''Luisa MIller'' with Caballe, Milnes, Maag), Pinkerton (''Madama Butterfly'') and his non-operatic role in Verdi's Requiem. So, here you have 12 supreme performances. I know his repertoire was not wide but I think the number of mentioned authoritative roles is actually quite impressive in every realtion. Some would add his Calaf on early Mehta recording and Alfredo on Bonynge recording but that is more opened to discussion.
What I'm trying to say by this is that Pavarotti did an excellent job compared to some other tenors who had wider repertoire but did not have that kind of authority in so many roles. James Jolly said that Pavarotti knew what he should and could sing and essentialy I find this correct. He had some wrong choices but I don't have problem with that for it's minor number.
I also love the little clip of Pavarotti senior singing with Pavarotti junior. What a magnificent voice Luciano had - the sort of voice that comes once in a lifetime.
I must say, I never really liked Pavarotti, but this video is certainly significant. I always do enjoy seeing someone's early career, and their own commentary.
This is a priceless tribute...a young man w/ his father. Pavarotti just beginning and here we are now. His voice is silent to us but sings on in our hearts forever. Bless him and peace to him.
Pretty intersting. Wonderful young potent voice. I find incredible that he humbly recognizes that the best tenor of the time was Jaume Aragall. This is a great proof of Pavarotti's seriousness and professionality. Wounderful!
Priceless clip ! How wonderfully he sang Rodolfo at such an early age. . and how correctly. . . .and. .. he did NOT cover at "F", he covered at "G". I heard him when he was singing like this. It was as if the heavens had opened up and placed a singing angel on stage. I will NEVER forget that evening. Thank you for this posting !
You make a good point here. A lot of people judge pavarotti values for his 90's performances, when his voice was much more amazing at the 70's and the early/middle 80's. But hey, Pavarotti is the tenor with the biggest opera career in music history. I think that shows it all about his voice quality over time. Few tenors had perform so well as him after the 45 years old.
I agree Pav is judged by the pop crowd by his 90's performances. It's a double-edged sword though since it is that same crowd who bring him much of his fame today. Jussi Bjorling was another tenor for whom time ravaged not his voice except Jussi's only got better and better, unfortunately he died at age 49.
OMG!!! Best posting ever!!! What year do you think that clip of Che Gelida Manina with Freni was? 1962? O man, I wish he recorded in 1961 through 1963!
Jaume Aragall y Garriga is his name. He changed it to sound more Italianate. Spanish (Catalan) tenor, with one of the most exquisite tenor voices I've ever heard. Pavarotti considers him to be the greatest of them all.
Hey Joeboo, you were correct. Thanks. I searched for other versions of this,but could find none I liked as much as the 2 Pav's. Do you know if whole thing it is avail? I LOVE this version. Haunting. Thanks...
I don't know if the whole song is available, but you may like a version of it that Pavarotti did with Sting, of all people. Sting sings the higher harmony. It was part of the Pavarotti and Friends series. Look for "Pavarotti: Greatest Hits" as well.
Although the impression is that this is footage of his stage debut it cannot be so as the Mimi' for his debut performance was Alberta Pellegrini and not Freni
I am so happy to see this posted of his early years, and shows why he became one of the greatest tenors of all time. Luciano makes everything he sings seem so effortless. I am sad to see his departure from the stage but grateful that he was there to begin with. What a gift he has been to the world of Opera. For me, there will be no replacement for Luciano. I really enjoyed seeing him sing with his father Fernando.
I'm so glad Dame Joan was able to teach Pava how to breath for singing! As he once said, to breath as he did here one "would soon pop like a frog"!--lol
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I think Pava, being the very intelligent, humble, man he was, is attempting to be "politically correct" for lack of a better term. In my humble opinion, he realizes to name himself or Domingo as the best invites argument from either Domingo or Pava fans. However, to name Aragall, another Spaniard, quells any argument Domingo may have since Aragall is a fellow Spaniard, and Pava fans simply know it isn't true!
appeace1 1 month ago
pavarotti even in his worst day could outsing argall. He was too much humble, he was unfair to himself which isn't so good.he sholdnt have said that argalls voice is the best one because that way he is lying and speaking nonsense.pavarotti's voice was better than any operatic voice ever.
ThePavafan 7 months ago
bullshit. pavarotti was FAR FAR BETTER than placido and argall together. He had a more beautiful and agile voice, a far louder voice, better technique he killed them in every performance. Pavarotti here is trying to show his big heart but this is not the right way, by lying. Pavarotti had far better ,louder, smoother,more beautiful and fuller voice than argall and domingo together.
ThePavafan 7 months ago
Who was the third tenor he mentioned???
A7madeus 2 years ago
you don't know Aragall, Jaume Aragall??????? well, look some of his videos...You will understand why Pavarotti mentioned him!
PlacidoDomingoIsN1 1 year ago
Is that Peter O'Toole narrating?
leadoffeohippus 2 years ago
anyone know how to get this entire debut boheme performance on video???
singermanz 2 years ago
No but the Von Karajan is close.
madisonelectronic 2 years ago
Omg his father sang even better.. More dramatically at least.. Love his forte timbre.
BKgaard 2 years ago
Can someone tell me who the other "really good tenor" Luciano mentions towards the end of this clip other than himself and Domingo? Rigaldo or something like that. I'd like to look him up. This video is WONDERFUL and how blessed are we to have YT and video clips to enjoy his gift over and over. Thank you!
ellasongstress 3 years ago
Giacomo Aragall.
ksnygirl 3 years ago
Aragall.
revivaljesus 2 years ago
That other "talented" tenor was the young Jaume Aragall, who indeed had the voice of a blade that softens instead of cutting. He was wonderful.
Vendimi3 2 years ago
I'd f**** get my arm cut of for hearing the first bit to the end, without any commentary.
parv81 3 years ago
who did he say was the best young tenor near the end of the clip? i can't figure out the spelling. thanks in advance.
jonshome16 3 years ago
he mentions Domingo and Aragall. Giacomo Aragall also called Jaime Aragall I believe. He was truly one of the most beautiful tenor voices, acclaimed by his colleagues, but plagued with awful nerves. There is much of his work here on YOU TUBE for you to hear.
laddnyc 3 years ago
Thank you!
jonshome16 3 years ago
Freni is so sweet in that clip....beautifull
and Pavarotti....wonderfull singing
OrpheuCe 3 years ago 4
GREATEST EVER....
At his debut he was unbeliveable, over everyothers..
RIP
AlterEgosRevenge 3 years ago 2
This is the god's voice..
No words.. he is the greatest ever..
RIP..
AlterEgosRevenge 3 years ago
That's right!!! It must be possible to get the whole recording.
deviljulian 4 years ago
Even at this early stage in his career he sounds better than any young tenor these days...by the way...there has to be a complete video of this performance...why would anyone record a segment of it and stop...?
GermanOperaSinger 4 years ago
he was so sharp, his notes would just come out like if he was just speaking them. He had no effort at singing.
eddyarias2 4 years ago
pavarotti + freni = perfect la bohème (i don't care what ppl say about the caballe carreras one)
thelouisfanclub 4 years ago
no other tenor had the perfection of his voice. NO ONE. Perfect high notes, perfect low notes, perfect vibratto, perfect thrills. I really dont care about the other ones before him, which are really good, but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them.
nicevidbro 4 years ago 2
Well put... bravo! He was the greatest!
dee1153 4 years ago
You are 100% correct !!!! He was the greatest !!!!
JoyceMc1 4 years ago
Pavarotti had a depth and warmth in his voice which was not matched by any other tenor.
JoyceMc1 4 years ago
the most beutiful tenor voice ever is jussi borling you will never here a voice like this again, plese excuse my spelling.
pavy456 4 years ago
Um.. Lol.. is all I'm saying.. have you ever HEARD some of the other greats?
Yoni89 4 years ago
yes. thats why i said that.
nicevidbro 4 years ago
really? name some of the greats you've heard.
Yoni89 4 years ago
i wouldnt. thats why didnt give names. i dont want people to think that im creating rivalries or else. id rather keep that to myself. =)
nicevidbro 4 years ago
NO. You heard recordings! At age 23 you "may" have heard Pav. You could not have heard the "Greats" from the past. They were dead before you were born. Todays generation "thinks" they know everything about singing because they have heard "recordings" and for the most part they can not be reasoned with. Sad as it is a heritage that should be the inheritance of us all.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
i am a trained opera singer. Ive sang in the best opera houses in all europe. So dont say ''at age of 23''
Ive listened to all those great tenors. So dont come here trying to be "mr. i know everything."
Pavarotti was THE best tenor until now. AND until now, no one has come close to his perfection, even his predecesors.
nicevidbro 4 years ago
LOL at 23 you "may" have LISTENED to tenors who have lived since 1985 on recordings! Not a particularly stellar group when you consider all the tenors of this century. If anyone here is "full of themselves" it is you,not I. Luciano was indeed ONE of the greatest tenors of ALL time. I aodred him as a singer and as a person. Unlike you I do not claim to know everything. I only was telling you that you do HIM a great disservice by your remarks that the tenors he adored were not worth caring about.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
did i said i know everything?
nicevidbro 4 years ago
Correction I meant to say you may have listened to tenors who lived "prior" to 1985 on recordings which is quite different from ever having heard them live and experienced their artistry in person. I am not here to pick a fight with you. If you are the artisit you say you are you already should know of what I am speaking. Let us all love the great tenors of all ages. Why is there a need to single out one as the GREATEST?
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
Let's see. You are 23? You do not "care about" Del Monaco, Corelli, DiStefano, Gigli, Caruso, Lauri Volpi, etc ?!?!? How do you think Pavorotti would feel about that statement? From whom did he learn. To whom did he listen? They were his mentors and his "maestri" just like he mentors tenors yet to come who listen to him. Singers pass their art generation to generation and we care about those who passed the torch to us and those to whom we will pass it. That is what being an artist is about.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
i never said ''i dont care about''. since all of your message are pure assumptions this conversation is over.
nicevidbro 4 years ago
Read your own initial post sonny boy. Your words "I really dont care about the other ones before him" so you are correct in at least one thing you have said.. ..this conversation indeed "OVER". . .and as I said before about people who know it all. . .there is no reasoning.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
aha. bye!!
nicevidbro 4 years ago
besides, YOU have to read twice: "i dont care about the other tenors before him, WHICH ARE REALLY GOOD but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them."
bye.
nicevidbro 4 years ago
unbelievable WOW thank YOU!!
cm8603 4 years ago
Is there any way to order this old video of his first performance of La Boheme? This is amazing!! Please let me know.
dennisholly73 4 years ago
Very interesting, thank you!
nigulat 4 years ago
right on
DonObaWom3 4 years ago
yes
DonObaWom3 4 years ago
Thanks so much for posting this. It is just wonderful. How lucky we are to have youtube. Pavarotti was really the GREATEST !!!!
JoyceMc1 4 years ago
Pavarotti never changed his voice. As a tenor ages, his voice darkens. It's unavoidable. His voice, however, remained unique and exceptional as it evolved in the ensuing years.
TheInquisitive 4 years ago
yeah that's true, but he sang too much over the years and did some damage there, no question.listen to krauss and you get how the voice can REALLY last, given those changes over the maturing years
fdebozo 4 years ago
You guys have to learn that you can not say anything negative about Pav. The general public will not tolerate it. However, there NEVER lived a singer who was perfect and there never will. A trained ear can hear of what you speak, but the general public knows mostly what moves their hearts and in that regard Pav was without peer. WE elevated him to the status of a god. No one can live up to that. He strived to be the best he could at all times and in all regards but he was human..and special.
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
You know your right. We all loved him so. His idols deserve my respect because he admired them. It's just hard to listen to the others when my heartstrings are so tied to his voice.
memmey 4 years ago
understood totally and beautifully said
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
Bela música, belo documentário!!!
urss24 4 years ago
This is really awesome. Is there anyone who has clips fom 1970-1975. PLEASE, post them, so we can enjoy.
hethat 4 years ago
I have plenty of his early music on CD not video, try to upload. Didn't cause you tube is so full of his music already.
balletamie 4 years ago
so what fill it up some more!
ajdjr73 4 years ago
Panis angelicus
gerald02121 4 years ago
I wish he hadn't changed his voice later in his career.
His voice was perfect for the Bel Canto...
But still, he is the best!
Jabe88 4 years ago 2
I agree with that statement. He sang outside his natural fach.He was a tenore 'legiero', who bumped up to bigger roles that demanded a full lyric tenor.Like so many others,he was drawn or pushed into bigger singing, and I think that was unfortunate. Of course he sang well, but imagine the rep he might have done had he stuck with true bel canto.
We will never know how he might have mastered MORE of it.Just picture him as a coloratura. I don't think that I'm alone thinking this way. lol !
vickersman 3 years ago
i tihnk you are the only one thinking it.
papaxj0hn1026 3 years ago
Yes, I think he was in fact a leggere tenor with an exceptionally full and round voice, but with vocal agility characteristic of the leggere. He did great with La Fille du Regiment...he should have stayed with lyric and leggere bel canto roles...even after moving to more heroic roles...he didn't sound as convincing as his 1960s-70s voice. I loved Pavarotti in the 60s and 70s...he should have stayed with bel canto...he had such a beautiful voice in that.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
thank you GermanOperaSinger... so you see papaxjohn1026...I am not the only one !
vickersman 3 years ago
Pavarotti had very unique and special voice. Although he had a lyric tenor's voice, he could do very quick coloratura passages with ease like a leggiero tenor. Therefore he could sing both light roles, like Nemorino in L'elisir d'amore, or Tonio in Fille du regiment. And lyric roles as well, like the Duke in Rigoletto and Rodolfo in Boheme. In those roles I think he has every other tenor in the 20th century beat. However, when he moves into roles like Cavarodossi in Tosco or Calaf in Turandot...
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
I do not him like those because those are meant for heavier tenors, like Corelli, del Monaco, Lanza, etc. In those I don't prefer his voice as it sounds light and although still beautiful...he doesn't play the character through with his voice.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
except Lanza...IMHO completely over rated and one whose training was incomplete.Still,he had soooo much potential,but ruined his life...so sad, and wasteful.
vickersman 3 years ago
Lanza...overrated? Compare his voice with that of the other tenors of his era...he was the best, in my opinion. yes his training was uncomplete, but I think in the end it matters the natural voice, and Lanza had the best natural voice. But I'm not to start an argument. You can like your singers...I will like mine.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
Good idea, and a mature way of looking at things.Probably more annoyed with Lanza for squandering that talent!For me Vickers is number one, followed by Corelli,Bjorling,Gedda,Krauss, and the later singers of the last century- Domingo I guess,Pavarotti,Aragal.Where are the new up and comers? There are a few good voices out there BUT too early to tell.I think Joseph Calleja(spelling?) shows promiss, and a few others.Not like the old days though - it's poor training,too heavy roles too early.Cheers
vickersman 3 years ago
Well...opera isn't as popular as before anyways these days...people with good voices aren't willing to take risks because more than likely they will end up singing for pennies on the street while some 'pop singer' who can't sing worth a s**t becomes sucessful. Makes me fume.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
couldn't agree more...and those with potential either have poor teaching or pushed beyond their talents too soon doing roles ill-suited to their voices at the time.The more I see and sing opera the worse the future looks.
vickersman 3 years ago
yall both need to chill. opera is growing and coming back, the amount of singers and intstrumentalists in conservatories and in reg schools is outrageous. and the met s broadcasting all over the country in theatres and selling out. classical music will return in 20 years to its full potential
viv3147 2 years ago
I hope you are right!
gowiemeister 2 years ago
Finally, I still think he did a great job and some people forget that eventhough his repertoire was not wide in number and languages it was wide in styles. Of course, he was mainly belcanto master but he did excellent job in more dramatic roles like Rodolfo in '' Luisa Miller'', Calaf in ''Turandot'' (the role that was originally written for lyric tenor but later Corelli defined the role) or Manrico in ''Il trovatore''.
castorp278 3 years ago
And I can't remember any present or past tenor who had this kind of stylistic quality without big discrepancy between belcanto roles and more dramatic roles he sung. Maybe I'm wrong but this is my point.
castorp278 3 years ago
Please answer my comment on your Pavarotti observation. I am not sending it to you directly for I have already send it to someone else on the same clip so I don't want to repeat myself (the comment is quite big). Thank you in advance.
castorp278 3 years ago
As far as I can remember there are seven high quality recordings of belcanto operas sung by Pavarotti : Bellini's ''Norma'', ''I Puritani'', ''La Sonnambula'' and Donizetti's ''Lucia di Lammermoor'', ''L'elisir d'amore'', ''Maria Stuarda'' and ''La fille du regiment''. I believe in these operas (''Norma''not included)he was the best or not surpassed by any other tenor. I would also add his Rodolfo (''La boheme''), Duca (''Rigoletto''), Riccardo (''Un ballo in maschera'') ...
castorp278 3 years ago
... Rodolfo (''Luisa MIller'' with Caballe, Milnes, Maag), Pinkerton (''Madama Butterfly'') and his non-operatic role in Verdi's Requiem. So, here you have 12 supreme performances. I know his repertoire was not wide but I think the number of mentioned authoritative roles is actually quite impressive in every realtion. Some would add his Calaf on early Mehta recording and Alfredo on Bonynge recording but that is more opened to discussion.
castorp278 3 years ago
What I'm trying to say by this is that Pavarotti did an excellent job compared to some other tenors who had wider repertoire but did not have that kind of authority in so many roles. James Jolly said that Pavarotti knew what he should and could sing and essentialy I find this correct. He had some wrong choices but I don't have problem with that for it's minor number.
castorp278 3 years ago
I also love the little clip of Pavarotti senior singing with Pavarotti junior. What a magnificent voice Luciano had - the sort of voice that comes once in a lifetime.
DrCrabfingers 4 years ago
I must say, I never really liked Pavarotti, but this video is certainly significant. I always do enjoy seeing someone's early career, and their own commentary.
Thanks for posting this.
operacommentator 4 years ago
I love you, Luciano... thank you so much for what you brought to my heart. You will sing on forever for me...
blacklightbluebird 4 years ago
Yes, thank you so much for this.
oneandonlyck 4 years ago 2
Thank you for this video!
Rest well, Maestro
CarbCat 4 years ago
luciano. part of italy has gone to rest with you. e lucean le stelle. forever thanks.
samsara69 4 years ago
Can anyone tell me the name of the 3rd young tenor Luciano mentioned in his interview?
ElaineRuth 4 years ago
Aragall. You can find molto clips here.
mrblondnyc 4 years ago
Jaime Aragall. Placido Domingo, Pavarotti and Jaime Aragall. Another spanish tenor.
pabloricciardi 4 years ago
Maestro dolce d'addio.
KatieKaboom26 4 years ago
This is a priceless tribute...a young man w/ his father. Pavarotti just beginning and here we are now. His voice is silent to us but sings on in our hearts forever. Bless him and peace to him.
Nicki1953 4 years ago
Perhaps the most treasured part of this video is seeing Luciano singing with his father. What a gift to all of us!
rwwdiva 4 years ago 2
Debutto al Teatro Municipale di Reggio Emilia (1961) non al Teatro Comunale di Modena
indrofrancovillani 4 years ago
Pavarotti fue un volcan, cantaba fuego y derramaba amor
JoSeToTo 4 years ago
The Heavenly Choir sings sweeter today; God has brought his tenor home, where he sings once again, and forever, with his father.
In manus tuas, misericors Salvator, servum tuum Luciano commendamus. Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei.
Requiescat in pace, Luciano. Amen.
manushand 4 years ago
R.I.P. Maestro.
blazindav 4 years ago
Touching to see him singing with his father.
woadisme 4 years ago
takk for alt, luciano!
ingarthon 4 years ago
R.I.P. luciano pavarotti
tropica88 4 years ago
Sentimos mucha tristeza por su perdida. Cesar y Joa.
Cesar7507 4 years ago
QEPD maestro!
apenados por tu pérdida.
desde Argentina.
emalag999 4 years ago
pavarotti, te vamos a extrañar :(
manujota 4 years ago
His father's voice is awesome! What a pity he did persue his singing career.
MarkusCallaway2006 4 years ago
farewell, Maestro. RIP from Brazil
gutoputo 4 years ago
Rest in a peace Dear Luciano.
nilkiyas 4 years ago
may you rest in peace dear luciano
gacija 4 years ago
Rest In Peace Luciano
ronaldinhothelegend 4 years ago
Pretty intersting. Wonderful young potent voice. I find incredible that he humbly recognizes that the best tenor of the time was Jaume Aragall. This is a great proof of Pavarotti's seriousness and professionality. Wounderful!
livius 4 years ago
that was his sister talking at first
memmey 4 years ago
The clip starts whith Pavarotti and his father at Modena Cathedral singing Panis Angelicus.
manelri 4 years ago
if anyone has anymore of the maestro and his father please include it
a very moving experience to see and hear
two beautiful voices
kenchatwod1941 4 years ago
Priceless clip ! How wonderfully he sang Rodolfo at such an early age. . and how correctly. . . .and. .. he did NOT cover at "F", he covered at "G". I heard him when he was singing like this. It was as if the heavens had opened up and placed a singing angel on stage. I will NEVER forget that evening. Thank you for this posting !
2ManyHighCs 4 years ago
You make a good point here. A lot of people judge pavarotti values for his 90's performances, when his voice was much more amazing at the 70's and the early/middle 80's. But hey, Pavarotti is the tenor with the biggest opera career in music history. I think that shows it all about his voice quality over time. Few tenors had perform so well as him after the 45 years old.
Kafkandinsky 4 years ago
I agree Pav is judged by the pop crowd by his 90's performances. It's a double-edged sword though since it is that same crowd who bring him much of his fame today. Jussi Bjorling was another tenor for whom time ravaged not his voice except Jussi's only got better and better, unfortunately he died at age 49.
302MarkVII 4 years ago
OMG!!! Best posting ever!!! What year do you think that clip of Che Gelida Manina with Freni was? 1962? O man, I wish he recorded in 1961 through 1963!
operavoices101 4 years ago
it was in april 1961. i forgot the exact date
libetta 4 years ago
Love you great Maestro Pavarotti, thanks for all...
1beast11 4 years ago
Great technic for Tenors bravo Pavarotti you are one of the best.
1stGreekTenor 4 years ago
So much beauty ... Thank you so much M.PAVAROTTI !!!...
laurencemalherbe 4 years ago
His DNA is designed for sing bel canto.
Also Fernando Pavarotti IS GREAT
manujota 4 years ago
His father has such a beatiful voice!
I really hope their early Boheme performance will release.
jeferry 4 years ago
He means Aragall, from his early debut days, he wasn't speaking of the Three Tenors.
Redboy4 4 years ago
Jose careraz if you meant it Three tenors
danielBlckz 4 years ago
Jaume Aragall y Garriga is his name. He changed it to sound more Italianate. Spanish (Catalan) tenor, with one of the most exquisite tenor voices I've ever heard. Pavarotti considers him to be the greatest of them all.
Zerlin735 4 years ago
thank you!!!
RADAMES1983 4 years ago
What's the name of the other tenor Pavarotti mentions? There's Pavrotti, Domingo and somebody else. Could someone please tell me. Thanks
fishcake100 5 years ago
giacomo aragall
orestis23 5 years ago
Raul Aragall
rymndroldan 4 years ago
can someone tell me the name of the opening song? Thanks...and thanks to the poster. It is lovely.
Palmettoguy1 5 years ago
Panus Angelicus. I may have spelled it wrong, but that's the opening song.
joeboo36 5 years ago
Hey Joeboo, you were correct. Thanks. I searched for other versions of this,but could find none I liked as much as the 2 Pav's. Do you know if whole thing it is avail? I LOVE this version. Haunting. Thanks...
Palmettoguy1 5 years ago
I don't know if the whole song is available, but you may like a version of it that Pavarotti did with Sting, of all people. Sting sings the higher harmony. It was part of the Pavarotti and Friends series. Look for "Pavarotti: Greatest Hits" as well.
joeboo36 5 years ago
Yeah , high C is not shown , pity .
story9210 5 years ago
i'm so pissed that i couldn't hear the high C.
coryisawake 5 years ago
Is the video with Freni maybe from the same performance as the London recording with von Karajan directing?
wdrauch 5 years ago
I seriously doubt it, because the conductor shown was not Karajan. What a vivacious sound his father had as well. Interesting.
kerander 5 years ago
I saw this on tv the day I was twelve and I fal in love with the opera...And still STUNNING
endormathom 5 years ago
I am honoured just to know that he had his debut the day after I was born - what a voice and what a technique!
cyfieithydd 5 years ago
Wonderful, the young Pavarotti really is an unmatched Rodolfo, it all sounds so easy when he sings it. Thanks for sharing this.
archiloque 5 years ago
AMAZING!!!!! I want more!!!
binturong 5 years ago
Although the impression is that this is footage of his stage debut it cannot be so as the Mimi' for his debut performance was Alberta Pellegrini and not Freni
giannischicchi 5 years ago
You are quite right and the conductor on this clip is NOT Molinari-Pradelli who conducted the debut Boheme. This is Leone Maggiera.regards
ianjacobs1 5 years ago
Now that is a gem.
Bigoperaman 5 years ago
Amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing.
golfr10under 5 years ago
P.S. Thanks for posting this.
Redboy4 5 years ago
I am so happy to see this posted of his early years, and shows why he became one of the greatest tenors of all time. Luciano makes everything he sings seem so effortless. I am sad to see his departure from the stage but grateful that he was there to begin with. What a gift he has been to the world of Opera. For me, there will be no replacement for Luciano. I really enjoyed seeing him sing with his father Fernando.
Redboy4 5 years ago