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  • I'm so glad Dame Joan was able to teach Pava how to breath for singing! As he once said, to breath as he did here one "would soon pop like a frog"!--lol

  • I think Pava, being the very intelligent, humble, man he was, is attempting to be "politically correct" for lack of a better term. In my humble opinion, he realizes to name himself or Domingo as the best invites argument from either Domingo or Pava fans. However, to name Aragall, another Spaniard, quells any argument Domingo may have since Aragall is a fellow Spaniard, and Pava fans simply know it isn't true!

  • pavarotti even in his worst day could outsing argall. He was too much humble, he was unfair to himself which isn't so good.he sholdnt have said that argalls voice is the best one because that way he is lying and speaking nonsense.pavarotti's voice was better than any operatic voice ever.

  • bullshit. pavarotti was FAR FAR BETTER than placido and argall together. He had a more beautiful and agile voice, a far louder voice, better technique he killed them in every performance. Pavarotti here is trying to show his big heart but this is not the right way, by lying. Pavarotti had far better ,louder, smoother,more beautiful and fuller voice than argall and domingo together.

  • Who was the third tenor he mentioned???

  • you don't know Aragall, Jaume Aragall??????? well, look some of his videos...You will understand why Pavarotti mentioned him!

  • Is that Peter O'Toole narrating?

  • anyone know how to get this entire debut boheme performance on video???

  • No but the Von Karajan is close.

  • Omg his father sang even better.. More dramatically at least.. Love his forte timbre.

  • Can someone tell me who the other "really good tenor" Luciano mentions towards the end of this clip other than himself and Domingo? Rigaldo or something like that. I'd like to look him up. This video is WONDERFUL and how blessed are we to have YT and video clips to enjoy his gift over and over. Thank you!

  • Giacomo Aragall.

  • Aragall.

  • That other "talented" tenor was the young Jaume Aragall, who indeed had the voice of a blade that softens instead of cutting. He was wonderful.

  • I'd f**** get my arm cut of for hearing the first bit to the end, without any commentary.

  • who did he say was the best young tenor near the end of the clip? i can't figure out the spelling. thanks in advance.

  • he mentions Domingo and Aragall. Giacomo Aragall also called Jaime Aragall I believe. He was truly one of the most beautiful tenor voices, acclaimed by his colleagues, but plagued with awful nerves. There is much of his work here on YOU TUBE for you to hear.

  • Thank you!

  • Freni is so sweet in that clip....beautifull

    and Pavarotti....wonderfull singing

  • GREATEST EVER....

    At his debut he was unbeliveable, over everyothers..

    RIP

  • This is the god's voice..

    No words.. he is the greatest ever..

    RIP..

  • That's right!!! It must be possible to get the whole recording.

  • Even at this early stage in his career he sounds better than any young tenor these days...by the way...there has to be a complete video of this performance...why would anyone record a segment of it and stop...?

  • he was so sharp, his notes would just come out like if he was just speaking them. He had no effort at singing.

  • pavarotti + freni = perfect la bohème (i don't care what ppl say about the caballe carreras one)

  • no other tenor had the perfection of his voice. NO ONE. Perfect high notes, perfect low notes, perfect vibratto, perfect thrills. I really dont care about the other ones before him, which are really good, but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them.

  • Well put... bravo! He was the greatest!

  • You are 100% correct !!!! He was the greatest !!!!

  • Pavarotti had a depth and warmth in his voice which was not matched by any other tenor.

  • the most beutiful tenor voice ever is jussi borling you will never here a voice like this again, plese excuse my spelling.

  • Um.. Lol.. is all I'm saying.. have you ever HEARD some of the other greats?

  • yes. thats why i said that.

  • really? name some of the greats you've heard.

  • i wouldnt. thats why didnt give names. i dont want people to think that im creating rivalries or else. id rather keep that to myself. =)

  • NO. You heard recordings! At age 23 you "may" have heard Pav. You could not have heard the "Greats" from the past.  They were dead before you were born. Todays generation "thinks" they know everything about singing because they have heard "recordings" and for the most part they can not be reasoned with. Sad as it is a heritage that should be the inheritance of us all.

  • i am a trained opera singer. Ive sang in the best opera houses in all europe. So dont say ''at age of 23''

    Ive listened to all those great tenors. So dont come here trying to be "mr. i know everything."

    Pavarotti was THE best tenor until now. AND until now, no one has come close to his perfection, even his predecesors.

  • LOL at 23 you "may" have LISTENED to tenors who have lived since 1985 on recordings! Not a particularly stellar group when you consider all the tenors of this century. If anyone here is "full of themselves" it is you,not I. Luciano was indeed ONE of the greatest tenors of ALL time. I aodred him as a singer and as a person. Unlike you I do not claim to know everything. I only was telling you that you do HIM a great disservice by your remarks that the tenors he adored were not worth caring about.

  • did i said i know everything?

  • Correction I meant to say you may have listened to tenors who lived "prior" to 1985 on recordings which is quite different from ever having heard them live and experienced their artistry in person. I am not here to pick a fight with you. If you are the artisit you say you are you already should know of what I am speaking. Let us all love the great tenors of all ages. Why is there a need to single out one as the GREATEST?

  • Let's see. You are 23? You do not "care about" Del Monaco, Corelli, DiStefano, Gigli, Caruso, Lauri Volpi, etc ?!?!? How do you think Pavorotti would feel about that statement? From whom did he learn. To whom did he listen? They were his mentors and his "maestri" just like he mentors tenors yet to come who listen to him. Singers pass their art generation to generation and we care about those who passed the torch to us and those to whom we will pass it. That is what being an artist is about.

  • i never said ''i dont care about''. since all of your message are pure assumptions this conversation is over.

  • Read your own initial post sonny boy. Your words "I really dont care about the other ones before him" so you are correct in at least one thing you have said.. ..this conversation indeed "OVER". . .and as I said before about people who know it all. . .there is no reasoning.

  • aha. bye!!

  • besides, YOU have to read twice: "i dont care about the other tenors before him, WHICH ARE REALLY GOOD but i think pavarotti was the ultimate evolution of all of them."

    bye.

  • unbelievable WOW thank YOU!!

  • Is there any way to order this old video of his first performance of La Boheme? This is amazing!! Please let me know.

  • Very interesting, thank you!

  • right on

  • yes

  • Thanks so much for posting this. It is just wonderful. How lucky we are to have youtube. Pavarotti was really the GREATEST !!!!

  • Pavarotti never changed his voice. As a tenor ages, his voice darkens. It's unavoidable. His voice, however, remained unique and exceptional as it evolved in the ensuing years.

  • yeah that's true, but he sang too much over the years and did some damage there, no question.listen to krauss and you get how the voice can REALLY last, given those changes over the maturing years

  • You guys have to learn that you can not say anything negative about Pav. The general public will not tolerate it. However, there NEVER lived a singer who was perfect and there never will. A trained ear can hear of what you speak, but the general public knows mostly what moves their hearts and in that regard Pav was without peer. WE elevated him to the status of a god. No one can live up to that. He strived to be the best he could at all times and in all regards but he was human..and special.

  • You know your right. We all loved him so. His idols deserve my respect because he admired them. It's just hard to listen to the others when my heartstrings are so tied to his voice.

  • understood totally and beautifully said

  • Bela música, belo documentário!!!

  • This is really awesome. Is there anyone who has clips fom 1970-1975. PLEASE, post them, so we can enjoy.

  • I have plenty of his early music on CD not video, try to upload. Didn't cause you tube is so full of his music already.

  • so what fill it up some more!

  • Panis angelicus

  • I wish he hadn't changed his voice later in his career.

    His voice was perfect for the Bel Canto...

    But still, he is the best!

  • I agree with that statement. He sang outside his natural fach.He was a tenore 'legiero', who bumped up to bigger roles that demanded a full lyric tenor.Like so many others,he was drawn or pushed into bigger singing, and I think that was unfortunate. Of course he sang well, but imagine the rep he might have done had he stuck with true bel canto.

    We will never know how he might have mastered MORE of it.Just picture him as a coloratura. I don't think that I'm alone thinking this way. lol !

  • i tihnk you are the only one thinking it.

  • Yes, I think he was in fact a leggere tenor with an exceptionally full and round voice, but with vocal agility characteristic of the leggere. He did great with La Fille du Regiment...he should have stayed with lyric and leggere bel canto roles...even after moving to more heroic roles...he didn't sound as convincing as his 1960s-70s voice. I loved Pavarotti in the 60s and 70s...he should have stayed with bel canto...he had such a beautiful voice in that.

  • thank you GermanOperaSinger... so you see papaxjohn1026...I am not the only one !

  • Pavarotti had very unique and special voice. Although he had a lyric tenor's voice, he could do very quick coloratura passages with ease like a leggiero tenor. Therefore he could sing both light roles, like Nemorino in L'elisir d'amore, or Tonio in Fille du regiment. And lyric roles as well, like the Duke in Rigoletto and Rodolfo in Boheme. In those roles I think he has every other tenor in the 20th century beat. However, when he moves into roles like Cavarodossi in Tosco or Calaf in Turandot...

  • I do not him like those because those are meant for heavier tenors, like Corelli, del Monaco, Lanza, etc. In those I don't prefer his voice as it sounds light and although still beautiful...he doesn't play the character through with his voice.

  • except Lanza...IMHO completely over rated and one whose training was incomplete.Still,he had soooo much potential,but ruined his life...so sad, and wasteful.

  • Lanza...overrated? Compare his voice with that of the other tenors of his era...he was the best, in my opinion. yes his training was uncomplete, but I think in the end it matters the natural voice, and Lanza had the best natural voice. But I'm not to start an argument. You can like your singers...I will like mine.

  • Good idea, and a mature way of looking at things.Probably more annoyed with Lanza for squandering that talent!For me Vickers is number one, followed by Corelli,Bjorling,Gedda,Krauss, and the later singers of the last century- Domingo I guess,Pavarotti,Aragal.Where are the new up and comers? There are a few good voices out there BUT too early to tell.I think Joseph Calleja(spelling?) shows promiss, and a few others.Not like the old days though - it's poor training,too heavy roles too early.Cheers

  • Well...opera isn't as popular as before anyways these days...people with good voices aren't willing to take risks because more than likely they will end up singing for pennies on the street while some 'pop singer' who can't sing worth a s**t becomes sucessful. Makes me fume.

  • couldn't agree more...and those with potential either have poor teaching or pushed beyond their talents too soon doing roles ill-suited to their voices at the time.The more I see and sing opera the worse the future looks.

  • yall both need to chill. opera is growing and coming back, the amount of singers and intstrumentalists in conservatories and in reg schools is outrageous. and the met s broadcasting all over the country in theatres and selling out. classical music will return in 20 years to its full potential

  • I hope you are right!

  • Finally, I still think he did a great job and some people forget that eventhough his repertoire was not wide in number and languages it was wide in styles. Of course, he was mainly belcanto master but he did excellent job in more dramatic roles like Rodolfo in '' Luisa Miller'', Calaf in ''Turandot'' (the role that was originally written for lyric tenor but later Corelli defined the role) or Manrico in ''Il trovatore''.

  • And I can't remember any present or past tenor who had this kind of stylistic quality without big discrepancy between belcanto roles and more dramatic roles he sung. Maybe I'm wrong but this is my point.

  • Please answer my comment on your Pavarotti observation. I am not sending it to you directly for I have already send it to someone else on the same clip so I don't want to repeat myself (the comment is quite big). Thank you in advance.

  • As far as I can remember there are seven high quality recordings of belcanto operas sung by Pavarotti : Bellini's ''Norma'', ''I Puritani'', ''La Sonnambula'' and Donizetti's ''Lucia di Lammermoor'', ''L'elisir d'amore'', ''Maria Stuarda'' and ''La fille du regiment''. I believe in these operas (''Norma''not included)he was the best or not surpassed by any other tenor. I would also add his Rodolfo (''La boheme''), Duca (''Rigoletto''), Riccardo (''Un ballo in maschera'') ...

  • ... Rodolfo (''Luisa MIller'' with Caballe, Milnes, Maag), Pinkerton (''Madama Butterfly'') and his non-operatic role in Verdi's Requiem. So, here you have 12 supreme performances. I know his repertoire was not wide but I think the number of mentioned authoritative roles is actually quite impressive in every realtion. Some would add his Calaf on early Mehta recording and Alfredo on Bonynge recording but that is more opened to discussion.

  • What I'm trying to say by this is that Pavarotti did an excellent job compared to some other tenors who had wider repertoire but did not have that kind of authority in so many roles. James Jolly said that Pavarotti knew what he should and could sing and essentialy I find this correct. He had some wrong choices but I don't have problem with that for it's minor number.

  • I also love the little clip of Pavarotti senior singing with Pavarotti junior. What a magnificent voice Luciano had - the sort of voice that comes once in a lifetime.

  • I must say, I never really liked Pavarotti, but this video is certainly significant. I always do enjoy seeing someone's early career, and their own commentary.

    Thanks for posting this.

  • I love you, Luciano... thank you so much for what you brought to my heart. You will sing on forever for me...

  • Yes, thank you so much for this.

  • Thank you for this video!

    Rest well, Maestro

  • luciano. part of italy has gone to rest with you. e lucean le stelle. forever thanks.

  • Can anyone tell me the name of the 3rd young tenor Luciano mentioned in his interview?

  • Aragall. You can find molto clips here.

  • Jaime Aragall. Placido Domingo, Pavarotti and Jaime Aragall. Another spanish tenor.

  • Maestro dolce d'addio.

  • This is a priceless tribute...a young man w/ his father. Pavarotti just beginning and here we are now. His voice is silent to us but sings on in our hearts forever. Bless him and peace to him.

  • Perhaps the most treasured part of this video is seeing Luciano singing with his father. What a gift to all of us!

  • Debutto al Teatro Municipale di Reggio Emilia (1961) non al Teatro Comunale di Modena

  • Pavarotti fue un volcan, cantaba fuego y derramaba amor

  • The Heavenly Choir sings sweeter today; God has brought his tenor home, where he sings once again, and forever, with his father.

    In manus tuas, misericors Salvator, servum tuum Luciano commendamus. Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei.

    Requiescat in pace, Luciano. Amen.

  • R.I.P. Maestro.

  • Touching to see him singing with his father.

  • takk for alt, luciano!

  • R.I.P. luciano pavarotti

  • Sentimos mucha tristeza por su perdida.  Cesar y Joa.

  • QEPD maestro!

    apenados por tu pérdida.

    desde Argentina.

  • pavarotti, te vamos a extrañar :(

  • His father's voice is awesome! What a pity he did persue his singing career.

  • farewell, Maestro. RIP from Brazil

  • Rest in a peace Dear Luciano.

  • may you rest in peace dear luciano

  • Rest In Peace Luciano

  • Pretty intersting. Wonderful young potent voice. I find incredible that he humbly recognizes that the best tenor of the time was Jaume Aragall. This is a great proof of Pavarotti's seriousness and professionality. Wounderful!

  • that was his sister talking at first

  • The clip starts whith Pavarotti and his father at Modena Cathedral singing Panis Angelicus.

  • if anyone has anymore of the maestro and his father please include it

    a very moving experience to see and hear

    two beautiful voices

  • Priceless clip ! How wonderfully he sang Rodolfo at such an early age. . and how correctly. . . .and. .. he did NOT cover at "F", he covered at "G". I heard him when he was singing like this. It was as if the heavens had opened up and placed a singing angel on stage. I will NEVER forget that evening. Thank you for this posting !

  • You make a good point here. A lot of people judge pavarotti values for his 90's performances, when his voice was much more amazing at the 70's and the early/middle 80's. But hey, Pavarotti is the tenor with the biggest opera career in music history. I think that shows it all about his voice quality over time. Few tenors had perform so well as him after the 45 years old.

  • I agree Pav is judged by the pop crowd by his 90's performances. It's a double-edged sword though since it is that same crowd who bring him much of his fame today. Jussi Bjorling was another tenor for whom time ravaged not his voice except Jussi's only got better and better, unfortunately he died at age 49.

  • OMG!!!  Best posting ever!!! What year do you think that clip of Che Gelida Manina with Freni was? 1962? O man, I wish he recorded in 1961 through 1963!

  • it was in april 1961. i forgot the exact date

  • Love you great Maestro Pavarotti, thanks for all...

  • Great technic for Tenors bravo Pavarotti you are one of the best.

  • So much beauty ... Thank you so much M.PAVAROTTI !!!...

  • His DNA is designed for sing bel canto.

    Also Fernando Pavarotti IS GREAT

  • His father has such a beatiful voice!

    I really hope their early Boheme performance will release.

  • He means Aragall, from his early debut days, he wasn't speaking of the Three Tenors.

  • Jose careraz if you meant it Three tenors

  • Jaume Aragall y Garriga is his name. He changed it to sound more Italianate. Spanish (Catalan) tenor, with one of the most exquisite tenor voices I've ever heard. Pavarotti considers him to be the greatest of them all.

  • thank you!!!

  • What's the name of the other tenor Pavarotti mentions? There's Pavrotti, Domingo and somebody else. Could someone please tell me. Thanks

  • giacomo aragall

  • Raul Aragall

  • can someone tell me the name of the opening song? Thanks...and thanks to the poster. It is lovely.

  • Panus Angelicus. I may have spelled it wrong, but that's the opening song.

  • Hey Joeboo, you were correct. Thanks. I searched for other versions of this,but could find none I liked as much as the 2 Pav's. Do you know if whole thing it is avail? I LOVE this version. Haunting. Thanks...

  • I don't know if the whole song is available, but you may like a version of it that Pavarotti did with Sting, of all people. Sting sings the higher harmony. It was part of the Pavarotti and Friends series. Look for "Pavarotti: Greatest Hits" as well.

  • Yeah , high C is not shown , pity .

  • i'm so pissed that i couldn't hear the high C.

  • Is the video with Freni maybe from the same performance as the London recording with von Karajan directing?

  • I seriously doubt it, because the conductor shown was not Karajan. What a vivacious sound his father had as well. Interesting.

  • I saw this on tv the day I was twelve and I fal in love with the opera...And still STUNNING

  • I am honoured just to know that he had his debut the day after I was born - what a voice and what a technique!

  • Wonderful, the young Pavarotti really is an unmatched Rodolfo, it all sounds so easy when he sings it. Thanks for sharing this.

  • AMAZING!!!!! I want more!!!

  • Although the impression is that this is footage of his stage debut it cannot be so as the Mimi' for his debut performance was Alberta Pellegrini and not Freni

  • You are quite right and the conductor on this clip is NOT Molinari-Pradelli who conducted the debut Boheme. This is Leone Maggiera.regards

  • Now that is a gem.

  • Amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing.

  • P.S. Thanks for posting this.

  • I am so happy to see this posted of his early years, and shows why he became one of the greatest tenors of all time. Luciano makes everything he sings seem so effortless. I am sad to see his departure from the stage but grateful that he was there to begin with. What a gift he has been to the world of Opera. For me, there will be no replacement for Luciano. I really enjoyed seeing him sing with his father Fernando.

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