@11202 theres 2 many...pik one, theyre all wrong tho, like i said theyre one sided only, they dont tell u everything, u can be mean if u want i live in Los Angeles, trust me i know what it is to b mean.
@11202 I'm 16 what do you expect?lol But its chill, homeboy/homegirl I respect that.Its simple, read Ephesians 2:8-9 and its okay if you read a little further more and before, if you want read the whole chapter, not just the two verses, understand my friend. Were saved by grace through Jesus.
@breendaystarz If I recall I told you to explain not to tell me to "go and read it for yourself". If I wanted to read it for myself I would have done so and avoided asking in the first place. And if thats how 16 year olds type these days I'm worried.
@11202 Worry about your salvation, homie, the world doesn't depend on how 16 year olds type, the world is not going to end if I spell wrong, the world keeps on going, don't change the subject...I believe that I proved my point pretty well actually.
@breendaystarz Actually I haven't changed the topic at all, I've consistently asked you to explain to me 1 thing. I've changed the Criteria after you saying it was too much. Yet your point remains to be seen.
Literally, believing in someone meant entrusting oneself to them. Accepting Jesus as Lord of all is a way of saying that one entrusts themself to them. Accepting Jesus is not the best way of saying that one is entrusting himself to Jesus. The best way is simply to entrust onesself to Jesus and declare it as "I entrusted myself to Jesus".
@57worldwide No you got it all twisted, it even shows in the video Psalms 14:1, does it not call people fools? anyways like i said you guys are only getting part of the whole story not all... "Don't talk about someone until you've talked to them and don't compete against anyone until you've challenged them".Learn that. In other words try God, first before u run ur mouth.
@breendaystarz Right. You just stated that you are only 16. I guess this is the point where any conversation ends.
I have heard your defense before. That I must be a Christian before I can criticise Christianity. Just tell me, how long were Christians atheists before they were able to challenge atheism? How many doctors were HIV positive before they were able to give you medicine to fight HIV? How many dieticians were morbidly obese before they were able to give advice to overweight people?
@57worldwide Well incase you didn't know many or should I say most of the people that served God were young and started at my age, like David, he started as a boy and he turned out to be one of the best. And I know some atheist that became born again, check them out on youtube. I admit towhat I said is not entirely true but it CAN be true. Thank God he is good, imagine if we had an evil God... think about that! age does NOT matter to God.
@breendaystarz The reason I brought up your age is due to experience (or, more accurately, inexperience). You are young and don't have much life experience. You are still figuring out how the world actually works.
If you think that the Christian god exists, and allows the devil to interfere with his creation, then explain how that is good. That doesn't make sense to me.
I love how the Bible, in those lines, makes a slave to the book. Funny, the bible says calling someone a fool is a sin, and then call people that don't believe in this garbage a fool. Obviously a stoned desert man wrote this crap.
Funny video, though even as an atheist if there was one person from history I'd like to meet it would be JC - if for no other reason than to find out who he really was and what he really believed.
@PrivateJoker17 Yeah, he probably existed. The gospels were written approx 60 years after the death of Jeez. Even by religious charlatans' standards, inventing such a person out of thin air 60 years after he was supposed to be alive would be taking a risk. Bronze Age man perhaps but chances are you know something of your parents and grandparents life history? All a bit academic, as the bible (like every religious text) is a load of old plop in terms of factual content, but real person? Probably.
@wolekelpolako you are not turning the other cheek and getting angry. You are a murderer and sinner according to your God. I guess you are going to hell or are exempt from the rules.
J919or you are a wolf in Sheep's clothes. You do not follow the words of the Bible. You call people demonic, you don't turn the other cheek, you take from the bible what you wish not what is written. You are going to Hell according to your God. Do you realize how stupid you sound? Don't get angry cuz that's the same as murder according to Jesus.
@paramattic70 ""going to Hell according to your God.""
Nah. God has so confirmed to me that He is with me forever, regardless of my resident evil which he cleanses me of every day. I have the joy and peace and love of the Holy SPirit, all of which I dont deserve. I live by grace and enjoy God as Im still in awe and wonder as to how he could love a jerk like me.
@evileros1960 Perhaps you should see a logic coach/therapist for u have no arguments, nor rationality, but mere confidence in your opinion and the desire to influence others thru social pressure.
@j919or Wow, That’s exactly how I feel every day, at work, with family, the social pressure to give up my atheism and prostrate myself before an imaginary daddy and except the zombie christ as my lord & savior. To give up on science and rational thought, to believe the LIE, do you still believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus, I grew up, it’s about time you do to.
The bible says that yall are children of satan 1 JOHN 3. 7-11. But that believers have changed from satan to God 1 peter 2.9 by the power of God alone.
No one slapped me on the cheek. This is a forum where ideas are discussed. Are you upset that I expose ur evil? Its for ur own good and in hopes that you and others would admit it and find forgiveness and grace and become my spiritutal brothers and sisters.
@j919or lol, its amusing to watch you "throw your pearls of wisdom" to those you consider under "demonic control" . ROFL Just like this video points out Jesus says one thing and you totally contradict him and say its what Christ wants you to do. Jesus said Matthew 7:6 "6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
@sean32laf For all those that would like to know, Jesus spoke to the disciples in public and that meant there were dogs. Jesus confronted the opposition of the dogs. Jesus wasnt trying to teach or help the dogs but rebuke their lies for the sake of others in the public square. This is the public square and atheists are idiots that need to be exposed just as I have just exposed 321af.
@j919or Yes Jesus considered Atheists dogs as well iam sure as well as any other kind of NonJew. Did you know that according to Jesus ALL your prayers are to be answered as you asked it to be and no substitute to be given in its place?
@sean32laf But Jesus also told the parable of the Good Samaritan, and they were not considered Jews by most Jews as far as I know. This is the whole point of the parable.
@87Philips funny how the "good Samaritan" wasnt a Jew isnt it? glad you noticed. The good deed of the "good Samaritan" was an example that put his Jewish brothers to shame , non the less , Jesus still thought of nonJews as dogs as he clearly stated, even if they had a dying daughter they were nothing more than lesser than human dogs fighting for the scraps that fell from the blessed favored table of Jews.
@stanfrymann "Jesus didn't like dogs? " I know this is just silliness but what makes u think Jesus didnt like dogs. Jesus never even called gentiles dogs. Tht was the jews. They hated the gentiles and God called them to love the gentiles and lead them to God, but they resisted God and crewed that up just like all people. You atheists are not alone.
@11202 ""hesitated to heal a sick womans daughter ""
Hesitated? For how long ? 5 minutes? Watch as I expose another lying atheist.
Jesus was interested in teaching her that humility prompts the actions of God. Jesus gave her the opportuinity to demonstrate her faith that God was bigger than the common understanding which was that gentiles were dogs. She wanted GOd and was content with whatever God gave her, even crumbs.
This is contrasted with the arrogance of the Jews. Game set match
@j919or LOL for me to question the words of God makes me an atheist? "demonstrate her faith that God was bigger than the common understanding which was that gentiles were dogs" <- Pardon? No idea what you said. All I recall from that section was that he himself called her a dog and said something like "It isn't right to take food away from children and feed it to dogs" not to realise that to acknowledge Demons is to acknowledge an Abrahamic religion anyhow.
@j919or Who does Jesus consider a dog? According to Matthew 15:22-28 he considers ALL nonJews(Gentiles) to be dogs and not worthy of his help unless they beg like a dog even if it was a woman who had a dying daughter as shown in this passage. She was ignored several times by Jesus and his deciples told him to send her away, but because she begged like a dog he thought her to be he healed her daughter. Does your compassion for non Christians surpass the self-righteousness of Jesus?
stupid shallow interpretation. i feel a bit sorry for who made it..even though i also think its necessary to carefully interpret words. u do not interpret them.
You could repent. Moreover, you could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
The law is summed up in love God and love ur neighbor. So obviously we are talking about the law of God not the law of ur town. I can try to love but the more I try the quicker i learn that it is impossble. In order to obey the law of God I must confess my own inability and yield myself to God who gives His Holy Spirit to live in and thru those that trust God and not themselves
@j919or think there was something about giving away all you're posessions as well. Acts describes how the early xtians actually did this and lived communally. those that didnt give away all ended up dead. so whoever told you that wasnt quite right.
@j919or exactly what i was refering to. there is no requirement to give up you're stuff - but if you dont then you are not christ like, therefore not a xtian and therefore not going to heaven. you're choice i guess....but dont come on here saying its all about loving god and you're neighbor when thats not the case.
Not. Christ like is peace love patience and complete yieldedness to the Spirit of God. Sometimes the will of God for u, is not to keep feeding the poor(teach em to fish?) but something else. There have been people that gave their whole lives to the poor and sick and they were not Christ like. Im thinking of Mother THeresa.
ur dark blind thinking they cant all be true. But in the light it all makes sense.
This video is an example of the confusion created by sin and evil and the resultant hostility towards God.
The poor in spirit go to heaven. That means those that realize that they have nothing to offer God that is good and that they are completely dependent upon his grace.
Jesus never said anything about renewing the law. Please produce evidence that he said that.
To ryan, the law was simply given to convince people tht they were evil and their own best efforts just made it worse. The goal of this was that people would give up on independence from god and entrust themselves to God to live in them and thru them
Religions are going in the wrong direction. They think the law will get them points with God, when it just makes them further from God and more evil
@j919or sorry that just depends on the translation of the bible. with good you get evil. God made law to show people their evil and get them to try and follow his ways. it is completely our own decisions to follow them or not. religious people aren't trying to earn points for God. granted some are. but mostly were just trying to respect the law and follow God.
Our own efforts dont produce righteousness. And the purpose of the law was to show that the more we try the worse we get. Without God controling our lives we are evil. All the religions that teach righteousness comes by human effort/the law are evil to the nth degree , including catholics and islam.
@j919or then why have law at all? we made the law to stop evil. look at police officers and the court of law. the stop and punish law breakers. but i do see your point we do mess up when we try too hard i will give you that.
Wow... Im an atheist but even in the slightest chance that heaven and hell were real, Id choose hell. I Know for a fact that I could not be able to follow all these laws...
Nah. You believe and preach the false gospel. Read Gal 1. 8,9 and then Gal. ch3. To begin in the Spirit and then try to finish the work by human effort/obeying the law is evil and the false gospel, let the preacher of the false gospel be accursed.
Actually the old laws Jesus told, God intended us to keep today. I'm not saying I'm perfect and keep them because i don't. I try to but no ones perfect. Its like when people say that Sunday is the sabbath when in fact its Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh. Saturday is the true day of rest yet many believe its Sunday. Not one scripture says its been changed yet people rest on Sunday and work on Saturday.
Actually hell is not eternal. That is why its called the second death. If hell was eternal Jesus didn't pay the full price for us. Accept Jesus and we will be given eternal life but refuse him and you will be cast into the lake of fire to perish. The dead are asleep until the second coming of Christ to collect his elect and to judge the wicked. God bless you
just a heads up about the violence in the bible. hell is eternal and unescapable. this life is but temporary God gives us glimpses of his wrath against sin as a warning to unbelievers of the eternal wrath to come and to repent. But unbelievers reveal their utter evil by turning all of Gods warnings into reasons not to believe. How thick is the darkness!
@j919or Your religion is nothing but sick and twisted threats to control people. If such a wrathful god existed, I'd be too horrified by his atrocities to feel any sort of comfort. This is coming from a once fundamentalist Christian.
Having read lots of comments I had to laugh. You are all making your own interpretations like the man from the future in the video. Either it's all right or none of it is. And it smells like bullshit to me.
j919or //I agree with James ch3 which says that there are 2 types of wisdom. Wisdom from above and wisdom from below. Wisdom from below is earthy natural and DEMONIC, while wisdom from above is pure peaceable and full of good results. I cowardly choose wisdom from above.//
Fundies say the damndest things XD this is pure comedy gold, grade A bullshit made all the more wonderful by the possibility that the person who said it may actually believe it.
@cyberslayer002 Yeah many words of Jesus arent understood properly in their historical context. Just because Jesus said it to SOME people , doesnt mean it applies to ALL people.
@OmfgItsHenu No. If you had rationality ud know that Jesus said those things to those people at that time and that they would understand what the word discipleship meant. It just means the process of learning. Jesus said that to be saved or to receive eternal life is to entrust yourself to Him. IOW He would do all the work in you to change you from a child of satan to a child of God.
@OmfgItsHenu This is more evidence that you are not a rational or critical thinker. This is not a question of morality. Jesus on earth at that time and traveling. Jesus is no longer on earth and traveling. Further, he did command them to sell all but gave them a conditional statement(if/then).
Jesus stated that his commands/morals are to love God and love others. That takes many forms depending on the situation.
but the argument, and the commands are mainly morally based and are crucial when interpretation is the argument subject.
oh forget it. i know how this ends, from experience.
you will ignore everything, keep spamming stuff and declare yourself the winner when i walk away losing faith in humanity. whether you acknowledge it or not.
1. What do u mean "are crucial"? Crucial for what?
2. What commands are moral based?
3. What interpretation is the argument subject? Isnt interpretation the basis for all communication?
4. You should be ignored bc you a. are confusing and vague b. wont admit that u know nothing of the subject at hand c. make allegations without support
5. Now tell us how people could follow Jesus around the countryside for an unlimited amount of time, unless they sold all their stuff?
Let's clear up the word "law" the law you speak of is "rabbinical law " not the same as " Torah " Gods guidelines and instructions . These laws are what the Holy Spirit is to lead us by . The Messiah did not come to abolish the law , which is Torah... Because that's Gods law he fulfilled , not man's law " Rabbinical law "
Let's clear up Law, which is rabbinical law, from Torah , Guidelines and instructions , laws Moses gave us from God. Those are principles to add to our lives , Christ is not a license to live immoral lives .
@u0tube0video0critic Yes bro. The law is gone once the Spirit comes for the Spirit empowers , guides and convicts of sin. What is our part now? Set our minds on the Spirit, confess that our sinful nature is gross and ask God to take control of our lives, then stand back and watch as the infnite power and love of the Creator of the universe is revealed TO you and THRU you.
Right, but you know what, you video speaks of all the Christians who do not read scripture , the Christians who don't go beyond the first step of salvation . Because I myself have started useing the term messianic believer to set apart from Christian because that term is being used by to many washed up people spreading non scripture based knowledge which then becomes contradictions as in your video.
@DHSpeaks ""believe in Jesus and sell all our stuff?""
Jesus just commanded certian individuals to sell their stuff. The command to u is to entrust your life to Him to take control and guide and empower you to do the will of God and love it too.
In order to be Jesus' disciple at the time He spoke this, u needed to travel with Him. So u had to say goodbye to all ur stuff and ur family. This doesnt apply today in the same way since now Jesus lives in each believer. But when He lives in you, He takes over and leads and guides you in various ways, which may or may not require travel etc.
@GypsyLeah Right and since we are nearly all rich compared to those of that day we are all doomed? jesus said that with man its impossible but with God all things are possible.
@j919or Sure, I posted a verse that says you have to be poor to go to heaven and you posted a verse that says god can do anything. There are plenty of verses that have other things to say. Thay can't all be right!
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'
So basically jesus didn't want anyone on the outside to know what he was talking about and made it intentionally vague. Nice
Rather Jesus did a filter. Those that just wanted to be entertained and fed remained on the outside and those that wanted truth asked for meaning of the parables. Jesus used a common method of teaching to state things vaguely and then wait for those that really wanted to know to ask for deeper understanding.
Same today. There are many that dont want truth and God allows them to remain in their ignorance.
@j919or Did the character of jesus in the bible want everyone to follow him and go to heaven, yes or no? Except in his almighty wisdom he purposely invented a filter to keep people out 'lest they turn and be forgiven!'
Few christians I've encountered actually care about truth, they cherrypick & take things on faith & just assume things are true in spite of evidence in reality and when they're asked to live up to their burden of proof they become hostile, forsaking their duty in 1 Peter 3:15.
Yes they could not believe bc they WOULD not believe. So if you dont want to be transformed completely by God then you want to keep trusting in self and resisting the creator. So to give one a false idea that they were forgiven when really they havent wanted to be forgiven at the root of their defiance is what is in view here.
@j919or it is the theist who believes because of choice, because of desire and want. There is no resistance on my part. Skepticism isn't closed-mindedness. Waiting and asking for evidence to prove the truth of a claim is reasonable, believing extraordinary claims in spite of evidence isn't.
"Yes they could not believe bc they WOULD not believe." I repeat, that is not what the passage says. It clearly says jesus intentionally spoke vague to keep people from understanding his message.
John 12.they still WOULD not believe in him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”[h] 39 For this reason they COULD not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:
@j919or so god created those people skeptical and unwilling to believe all to obey ancient scripture and those people went to hell exactly as he planned, right? If he didn't create those people skeptical, then the prophecies wouldn't fit (none of them do anyway: predicting people will be skeptical of outlandish magical claims is hardly magic, it's common sense) so god made people solely to send them to hell...
Still think this is an awesome god? The torturing blood tyrant in the sky?
@viridismonasteriense ""Still think this is an awesome god? The torturing blood tyrant in the sky?""
I used to think God was harsh until I viewed people like you and how evil and twisted is ur agenda and just how hostile u are towards God and all that is good. Now Im amazed that God puts up with you all for another second.
Perhaps. But each has the oppt for heaven for eternal life is a gift of God. God also knows that ur evil will cause you to reject what is best and choose the absolute worst for urselves.
Now Jesus spoke in parables so that those that wanted to believe would come to him and ask for the explanation and those that didnt want to believe would just go their way never understanding the meaning of what was taught.
You prove that you are hostile towards God and have already chosen hell and therefore I hope only to convince other readers not to rebel against your creator for He is AWESOME!
@j919or I am on principle hostile towards mass-murderers. Why aren't you? But you're missing the point: I base my beliefs on evidence. If your beliefs aren't based on evidence in reality you are spreading falsehoods and lies and telling people it's truth: yes I am hostile to that. I do not choose my beliefs, so I cannot choose hell, if indeed your god punishes my honesty and rewards your gullibility. You haven't proven he's my creator. You want power over me, I defend myself, and I'm hostile?
@j919or repeating yourself doesn't make it go away. 'lest they turn and be forgiven'. Did jesus not want that?
Beliefs aren't chosen. Either jesus could prove he was god or he could not convince them. Is god not omnipotent? It only proves jesus was incompetent that his message could not convince people. Your logic is nonsensical: why would people want to rebel against a loving god? Oh, that god sends people to INFINITE TORTURE IN HELL?? Then it's not a loving god. It's a tyrant. Obey or burn
Thats ur opinion. The text says that they had plenty of evidence(just as u do) and still they would not believe(just like u). You have no idea how powerful is evil and what a strangle hold it has on you.
@viridismonasteriense ""jesus was incompetent that his message could not convince people.""
Jesus did miracles and they still refused to believe, showing that people dont base belief on evidence but rather on preference.
JOHN 3.19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
@j919or While you puke out your bile, calling everyone who disagrees with you evil, you are the 1 who clearly shows the signs of evil influence. You should consider an exorcism, DUMBO.
@j919or and before you make idiotic claims about me really believing he exists (sigh) I am only speaking hypothetically on the matter.
You don't believe in Allah! So that must mean you only not believe to rebel against him, you don't want to obey Allah's laws, you want to be a sinner, you only believe because you don't want to believe!
Do you get a feeling of how silly that sounds? How retarded such a claim would be?
Your rebellious atheist strawman is nonsensically stupid.
He then gave me wisdom confidence and ability and now its all clear and I crush atheists and skeptics, but more importantly I now know that God trapps the proud in unbelief but opens the eyes of those that admit that they are blind to the truth and unable to get it w/o wisdom from God. As a result, I love Him all the more.
@j919or Re: “I challenged you to do more than provide book reference but actually debate the topic. Debate me or admit u cant!. “ >< Why didn’t you didn’t you click on the “Reply” box to add your response to my comment, huh? You coward. Afraid it would drop your cowardly response in my email box didn’t you? I anticipated that. I also noticed you chose this video forum for its “low” or “no” viewer traffic. Fear not, I’ll keep up on my end, because I want others to see the references.
@j919or Apologist alert! Apologist alert! Hang on to your tops or it'll blow right off in irritation... Dude, there's really no other thing to say to you other than call you an idiot and a liar... You and those like you are a blight to human kind and should be eradicated... If you believe in all this crap, then feel free... But stop lying... STOP LYING!
You atheists like to demand evidence while you make claims such as above with no evidence or argument whatsoever. Hence it appears that yall are the liars and the hypocrites.
@j919or What, you say there's no evidence for the things I said? You've scrawled plenty of them all over the damn comment section! You're an apologist since you seem to be explaining away all the BS your bible spouts and you're an idiot and a liar for doing so because you try to twist the truth. It isn't working BTW... YOU provided all the evidence I ever needed for my statement...
@champjklccmk ""you say there's no evidence for the things I said?""
Typical. This blind spawn of satan complains about being uncovered as a fraud with no evidence. But does he respond with evidence or with more emotional rants? you be the judge.
@j919or The line you quoted was a clarification on my part. And I GAVE you the evidence (well, actually YOU gave them to me) you so blindingly accused me of having no basis on. Just be honest with yourself. There is nothing in your faith that comes anywhere near being right or accurate. You're just an empty husk of a person, trying to fill the void with nonsensical things and slowly realizing that none of them work. So you try and drag others down with you since misery loves company.
Yes spoke to individuals with varying messages according to the setting and their condition. Like sell all and keep the commands. Ultimately only faith saves and that salvation empowers obedience for that salvation frees people from satan their father and sin their master.
All those people instantly receive the gift of eternal life all the rest will be cast out for ever no matter their level of evil.
As far as it goes historically, Jesus was a Jew living in a period of Persecution for the Jewish people, Jesus was a Jewish speaker trying to inspire hope and faith in the people that they would get out of this mess and not be executed and such, , these stories were then passed down to a man named Paul, who wrote up many stories and happening occuring that included Jesus being the savior, and such. To be honest, if Jesus came back today, he'd have no idea what christianity is.
Great video. I hope all the religion wackos reading and watching this might actually learn something.. If you're going to fallow the bible and make yourself and your religion appear all high and mighty at least you can fallow the bible as Jesus taught. I know for sure 99 percent of religions people don't do a single thing this video depicted. Otherwise you will all be going to hell anyway. Enjoy
The comments about "taking verses out of context" probably have some merit to them, but it's refreshing to see someone dealing with Jesus' own words rather than vague recollections from nowhere.
Anyway, Jesus' words have always been a barb to his followers. If there's gap between our lives as followers of Jesus and Jesus' words then lets hear it - whatever the medium.
And we don't really know nonstamp's heart...but perhaps like Jesus says to one guy, "You are not far from the kingdom of God"
@6jamrobbo how does jesus/ god (whichever have you) rationalize sending 9 million children a year (human development index) to hell for eternity. also the billions throughout history who have not believed in the 'correct' god. Also the billions before the word of christ was given to us. So we're talking about all deaths since about 98,000 B.C. to year 0. The minority that is christ followers are doing a bad job at safeguarding the souls of humanity if you ask me
@tamu77095 wow, you ask me such a hard question! I don't think I could answer that. Where did you find out that God is sending 9 million children to hell each year? Maybe that would be a good place to look for an answer. In the meantime I'll have a think about it.
so brilliant. again
CareFreeWherever 1 day ago
this is great
BER2ERKER 2 days ago
It's amazing that there are people who dismiss logic and still follow religion. Ron White said it best," you can't fix stupid"
cravintruth 5 days ago
Where's the sequel with the Apostle Paul?!
SenecExpire 5 days ago
MAn these fools only give you part of the whole story, I actually understand Jesus' teachings pretty well.
breendaystarz 5 days ago
@breendaystarz Please explain to us then. You know what I"ll be nice, explain all the things in just this video.
11202 2 days ago
@11202 theres 2 many...pik one, theyre all wrong tho, like i said theyre one sided only, they dont tell u everything, u can be mean if u want i live in Los Angeles, trust me i know what it is to b mean.
breendaystarz 2 days ago
@breendaystarz Go with how salvation can be achieved with only the acceptance of Christ. Come on, and try not typing like a 12 year old.
11202 2 days ago
@11202 I'm 16 what do you expect?lol But its chill, homeboy/homegirl I respect that.Its simple, read Ephesians 2:8-9 and its okay if you read a little further more and before, if you want read the whole chapter, not just the two verses, understand my friend. Were saved by grace through Jesus.
breendaystarz 2 days ago
@breendaystarz If I recall I told you to explain not to tell me to "go and read it for yourself". If I wanted to read it for myself I would have done so and avoided asking in the first place. And if thats how 16 year olds type these days I'm worried.
11202 1 day ago
@11202 Worry about your salvation, homie, the world doesn't depend on how 16 year olds type, the world is not going to end if I spell wrong, the world keeps on going, don't change the subject...I believe that I proved my point pretty well actually.
breendaystarz 17 hours ago
@breendaystarz Actually I haven't changed the topic at all, I've consistently asked you to explain to me 1 thing. I've changed the Criteria after you saying it was too much. Yet your point remains to be seen.
11202 16 hours ago
@11202 ""acceptance of Christ""
Literally, believing in someone meant entrusting oneself to them. Accepting Jesus as Lord of all is a way of saying that one entrusts themself to them. Accepting Jesus is not the best way of saying that one is entrusting himself to Jesus. The best way is simply to entrust onesself to Jesus and declare it as "I entrusted myself to Jesus".
j919or 1 day ago
@j919or Sorry but that still doesn't explain why all other things Christ told people to do are ignorable.
11202 16 hours ago
@breendaystarz Did you just call people fools, after watching a video where Jesus says not to call people fools?
57worldwide 2 days ago
@57worldwide No you got it all twisted, it even shows in the video Psalms 14:1, does it not call people fools? anyways like i said you guys are only getting part of the whole story not all... "Don't talk about someone until you've talked to them and don't compete against anyone until you've challenged them".Learn that. In other words try God, first before u run ur mouth.
breendaystarz 2 days ago
@breendaystarz Right. You just stated that you are only 16. I guess this is the point where any conversation ends.
I have heard your defense before. That I must be a Christian before I can criticise Christianity. Just tell me, how long were Christians atheists before they were able to challenge atheism? How many doctors were HIV positive before they were able to give you medicine to fight HIV? How many dieticians were morbidly obese before they were able to give advice to overweight people?
57worldwide 2 days ago
@57worldwide Well incase you didn't know many or should I say most of the people that served God were young and started at my age, like David, he started as a boy and he turned out to be one of the best. And I know some atheist that became born again, check them out on youtube. I admit towhat I said is not entirely true but it CAN be true. Thank God he is good, imagine if we had an evil God... think about that! age does NOT matter to God.
breendaystarz 17 hours ago
@breendaystarz The reason I brought up your age is due to experience (or, more accurately, inexperience). You are young and don't have much life experience. You are still figuring out how the world actually works.
If you think that the Christian god exists, and allows the devil to interfere with his creation, then explain how that is good. That doesn't make sense to me.
57worldwide 16 hours ago
Love the part with the pope!
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Lienmor 6 days ago
Good work man.
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@Truereligiochannel Not a huge fan of violent dogmatic teachings.
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Truereligiochannel 1 week ago
I love how the Bible, in those lines, makes a slave to the book. Funny, the bible says calling someone a fool is a sin, and then call people that don't believe in this garbage a fool. Obviously a stoned desert man wrote this crap.
TheOkami1113 1 week ago
i love the Matthew 7:24-26 quote that is genius, i might steal that one for my world domination plans! thanks jesus
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This was hilarious and it made perfect sense. I also love the part with the Pope. Good video.
ufojoedude 2 weeks ago
Funny video, though even as an atheist if there was one person from history I'd like to meet it would be JC - if for no other reason than to find out who he really was and what he really believed.
smoothmicra 2 weeks ago 23
@smoothmicra Me too.... and beat him up if he was really a moron, but he probably wasn't
crocalu 2 weeks ago
@smoothmicra Wait, you think he existed?
PrivateJoker17 1 week ago
@PrivateJoker17 Yeah, he probably existed. The gospels were written approx 60 years after the death of Jeez. Even by religious charlatans' standards, inventing such a person out of thin air 60 years after he was supposed to be alive would be taking a risk. Bronze Age man perhaps but chances are you know something of your parents and grandparents life history? All a bit academic, as the bible (like every religious text) is a load of old plop in terms of factual content, but real person? Probably.
smoothmicra 1 week ago
@smoothmicra Considering he spoke a language that has long sense died, I doubt you will be able to understand him. :P
AdonTimasu 1 week ago
@AdonTimasu since*
AdonTimasu 1 week ago
@j919or
You take things quite literally...
GelatineRidder 2 weeks ago
@wolekelpolako you are not turning the other cheek and getting angry. You are a murderer and sinner according to your God. I guess you are going to hell or are exempt from the rules.
paramattic70 2 weeks ago
J919or you are a wolf in Sheep's clothes. You do not follow the words of the Bible. You call people demonic, you don't turn the other cheek, you take from the bible what you wish not what is written. You are going to Hell according to your God. Do you realize how stupid you sound? Don't get angry cuz that's the same as murder according to Jesus.
paramattic70 2 weeks ago
@paramattic70 ""going to Hell according to your God.""
Nah. God has so confirmed to me that He is with me forever, regardless of my resident evil which he cleanses me of every day. I have the joy and peace and love of the Holy SPirit, all of which I dont deserve. I live by grace and enjoy God as Im still in awe and wonder as to how he could love a jerk like me.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@j919or You should seek help, go see a psychiatrist, they can you with your delusions.
evileros1960 2 weeks ago
@evileros1960 Perhaps you should see a logic coach/therapist for u have no arguments, nor rationality, but mere confidence in your opinion and the desire to influence others thru social pressure.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@j919or Wow, That’s exactly how I feel every day, at work, with family, the social pressure to give up my atheism and prostrate myself before an imaginary daddy and except the zombie christ as my lord & savior. To give up on science and rational thought, to believe the LIE, do you still believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus, I grew up, it’s about time you do to.
evileros1960 2 weeks ago
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@evileros1960 " social pressure to give up my atheism""
Ok then you should then stick to the issues and discuss these points on their own merits.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@paramattic70 ""You call people demonic""
The bible says that yall are children of satan 1 JOHN 3. 7-11. But that believers have changed from satan to God 1 peter 2.9 by the power of God alone.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@paramattic70 ""you don't turn the other cheek""
No one slapped me on the cheek. This is a forum where ideas are discussed. Are you upset that I expose ur evil? Its for ur own good and in hopes that you and others would admit it and find forgiveness and grace and become my spiritutal brothers and sisters.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@j919or lol, its amusing to watch you "throw your pearls of wisdom" to those you consider under "demonic control" . ROFL Just like this video points out Jesus says one thing and you totally contradict him and say its what Christ wants you to do. Jesus said Matthew 7:6 "6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
sean32laf 2 weeks ago
@sean32laf For all those that would like to know, Jesus spoke to the disciples in public and that meant there were dogs. Jesus confronted the opposition of the dogs. Jesus wasnt trying to teach or help the dogs but rebuke their lies for the sake of others in the public square. This is the public square and atheists are idiots that need to be exposed just as I have just exposed 321af.
j919or 2 weeks ago
@j919or Yes Jesus considered Atheists dogs as well iam sure as well as any other kind of NonJew. Did you know that according to Jesus ALL your prayers are to be answered as you asked it to be and no substitute to be given in its place?
sean32laf 2 weeks ago
@sean32laf But Jesus also told the parable of the Good Samaritan, and they were not considered Jews by most Jews as far as I know. This is the whole point of the parable.
87Philips 2 weeks ago
@87Philips funny how the "good Samaritan" wasnt a Jew isnt it? glad you noticed. The good deed of the "good Samaritan" was an example that put his Jewish brothers to shame , non the less , Jesus still thought of nonJews as dogs as he clearly stated, even if they had a dying daughter they were nothing more than lesser than human dogs fighting for the scraps that fell from the blessed favored table of Jews.
sean32laf 1 week ago
@j919or What! Jesus didn't like dogs? Well, then, I'm out!
stanfrymann 1 week ago
@stanfrymann "Jesus didn't like dogs? " I know this is just silliness but what makes u think Jesus didnt like dogs. Jesus never even called gentiles dogs. Tht was the jews. They hated the gentiles and God called them to love the gentiles and lead them to God, but they resisted God and crewed that up just like all people. You atheists are not alone.
j919or 1 week ago
@j919or No he actually hesitated to heal a sick womans daughter because she was a Gentile. I think you should re-read Matthew.
11202 2 days ago
@11202 ""hesitated to heal a sick womans daughter ""
Hesitated? For how long ? 5 minutes? Watch as I expose another lying atheist.
Jesus was interested in teaching her that humility prompts the actions of God. Jesus gave her the opportuinity to demonstrate her faith that God was bigger than the common understanding which was that gentiles were dogs. She wanted GOd and was content with whatever God gave her, even crumbs.
This is contrasted with the arrogance of the Jews. Game set match
j919or 1 day ago
@j919or LOL for me to question the words of God makes me an atheist? "demonstrate her faith that God was bigger than the common understanding which was that gentiles were dogs" <- Pardon? No idea what you said. All I recall from that section was that he himself called her a dog and said something like "It isn't right to take food away from children and feed it to dogs" not to realise that to acknowledge Demons is to acknowledge an Abrahamic religion anyhow.
11202 16 hours ago
@j919or Who does Jesus consider a dog? According to Matthew 15:22-28 he considers ALL nonJews(Gentiles) to be dogs and not worthy of his help unless they beg like a dog even if it was a woman who had a dying daughter as shown in this passage. She was ignored several times by Jesus and his deciples told him to send her away, but because she begged like a dog he thought her to be he healed her daughter. Does your compassion for non Christians surpass the self-righteousness of Jesus?
sean32laf 2 weeks ago
stupid shallow interpretation. i feel a bit sorry for who made it..even though i also think its necessary to carefully interpret words. u do not interpret them.
wolekelpolako 2 weeks ago
@wolekelpolako what do you mean you do not interpret them? whom is this comment directed at?
riskingeuphoria 2 weeks ago
"Jesus! enough allready" hahaha the ambiguity
IStehSHIT 3 weeks ago
Haha! I love how you find a great, simple, funny way to explain what a lot of us know but have difficulty expressing. Thanks for that, keep it up!
HelFKiernan 3 weeks ago 16
ALL of you need to shut up and let jesus fuck you just like Reagan McNeil said. That is the only true way.
jkellybrew 3 weeks ago
@jkellybrew Most of yall are just manifestations of demonic control.
j919or 3 weeks ago
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@j919or whatever jesus fag. and i'm not gonna go back and forth with you so don't bother trying.
jkellybrew 2 weeks ago
@j919or trololol
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You could repent. Moreover, you could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
paularenas26 3 weeks ago
Jesus spoke Hebrew
Inv8erZlM 3 weeks ago
you are saying this from a baptist perspective
luigifanist 3 weeks ago
The law is summed up in love God and love ur neighbor. So obviously we are talking about the law of God not the law of ur town. I can try to love but the more I try the quicker i learn that it is impossble. In order to obey the law of God I must confess my own inability and yield myself to God who gives His Holy Spirit to live in and thru those that trust God and not themselves
j919or 3 weeks ago
@j919or think there was something about giving away all you're posessions as well. Acts describes how the early xtians actually did this and lived communally. those that didnt give away all ended up dead. so whoever told you that wasnt quite right.
ADProtty 3 weeks ago
@ADProtty ""those that didnt give away all ended up dead""
Hmmmm. How dark is the thinking of the wilfully ignorant!
1. These believers pooled their resources to help the poor and those that needed to stay to be tuaght the ways of Jesus.
2. There was no requirement to give any or all of ur stuff. They did it willingly
3. 2 people lied and boasted that they gave all the money
4. The were given chance to repent of their lies and they wouldnt
5. God killed them
j919or 3 weeks ago
@j919or exactly what i was refering to. there is no requirement to give up you're stuff - but if you dont then you are not christ like, therefore not a xtian and therefore not going to heaven. you're choice i guess....but dont come on here saying its all about loving god and you're neighbor when thats not the case.
ADProtty 3 weeks ago
@ADProtty ""then you are not christ like""
Not. Christ like is peace love patience and complete yieldedness to the Spirit of God. Sometimes the will of God for u, is not to keep feeding the poor(teach em to fish?) but something else. There have been people that gave their whole lives to the poor and sick and they were not Christ like. Im thinking of Mother THeresa.
j919or 3 weeks ago
The pope part was the best!
InfiniteQuest86 4 weeks ago
Nah. In
ur dark blind thinking they cant all be true. But in the light it all makes sense.
This video is an example of the confusion created by sin and evil and the resultant hostility towards God.
The poor in spirit go to heaven. That means those that realize that they have nothing to offer God that is good and that they are completely dependent upon his grace.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or GODLESS HEATHENS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THINGS, HOW DARE THEY.
You're literally saying it's possible for two contradictory things to both be true.
KCKwarsick 3 weeks ago
Jesus never said anything about renewing the law. Please produce evidence that he said that.
To ryan, the law was simply given to convince people tht they were evil and their own best efforts just made it worse. The goal of this was that people would give up on independence from god and entrust themselves to God to live in them and thru them
Religions are going in the wrong direction. They think the law will get them points with God, when it just makes them further from God and more evil
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or sorry that just depends on the translation of the bible. with good you get evil. God made law to show people their evil and get them to try and follow his ways. it is completely our own decisions to follow them or not. religious people aren't trying to earn points for God. granted some are. but mostly were just trying to respect the law and follow God.
elephantpersonthingy 4 weeks ago
@elephantpersonthingy Nah.
Our own efforts dont produce righteousness. And the purpose of the law was to show that the more we try the worse we get. Without God controling our lives we are evil. All the religions that teach righteousness comes by human effort/the law are evil to the nth degree , including catholics and islam.
j919or 4 weeks ago
@j919or then why have law at all? we made the law to stop evil. look at police officers and the court of law. the stop and punish law breakers. but i do see your point we do mess up when we try too hard i will give you that.
elephantpersonthingy 3 weeks ago
Wow... Im an atheist but even in the slightest chance that heaven and hell were real, Id choose hell. I Know for a fact that I could not be able to follow all these laws...
ryan6627 1 month ago
this is crap. we should believe in Jesus but also try to keep the law.
elephantpersonthingy 1 month ago
@elephantpersonthingy ""believe in Jesus but also try to keep the law""
Nah. You believe and preach the false gospel. Read Gal 1. 8,9 and then Gal. ch3. To begin in the Spirit and then try to finish the work by human effort/obeying the law is evil and the false gospel, let the preacher of the false gospel be accursed.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or you really dont read the bible much do you? Jesus didnt come to abbolish the law but to renew it.
elephantpersonthingy 1 month ago
@elephantpersonthingy I think the line is 'fulfill it' which isn't how law works.
humanistheart 1 month ago
I agree, modern Christians basically ignore the real teachings of Christ.
arr5612 1 month ago
I take it the interpretor is a prodestant?
TheBazz1991 1 month ago
"not screaming loudly enough when raped"
LOLOLOL I CHECKED THAT ONE UP...ITS TRUE!!!
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Lienmor 1 month ago
Actually the old laws Jesus told, God intended us to keep today. I'm not saying I'm perfect and keep them because i don't. I try to but no ones perfect. Its like when people say that Sunday is the sabbath when in fact its Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh. Saturday is the true day of rest yet many believe its Sunday. Not one scripture says its been changed yet people rest on Sunday and work on Saturday.
GriiiiiiinD 1 month ago
@GriiiiiiinD Sunday is the 7th day...It's part of the "weekend"?
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@Lurdanjo
You have been deceived. Ask Jesus to come into you and to take control and he will free you and clear your mind.
GriiiiiiinD 1 month ago
@j919or
Actually hell is not eternal. That is why its called the second death. If hell was eternal Jesus didn't pay the full price for us. Accept Jesus and we will be given eternal life but refuse him and you will be cast into the lake of fire to perish. The dead are asleep until the second coming of Christ to collect his elect and to judge the wicked. God bless you
GriiiiiiinD 1 month ago
Lmfao. "you guys don't have fox news or youtube do you"
AR1STONE 1 month ago
just a heads up about the violence in the bible. hell is eternal and unescapable. this life is but temporary God gives us glimpses of his wrath against sin as a warning to unbelievers of the eternal wrath to come and to repent. But unbelievers reveal their utter evil by turning all of Gods warnings into reasons not to believe. How thick is the darkness!
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or Your religion is nothing but sick and twisted threats to control people. If such a wrathful god existed, I'd be too horrified by his atrocities to feel any sort of comfort. This is coming from a once fundamentalist Christian.
Lurdanjo 1 month ago in playlist More videos from NonStampCollector
@Lurdanjo You resist the control of God and therefore you choose hell. Hell is for those that reject the creator's right to control his creation.
The universe is finely tuned that resisting the control of the creator is deadly to the well being of all.
j919or 1 month ago
Yea, not the best representation of Jesus, unless your modern characters are a metre and a half tall.
lolcattycat 1 month ago
Having read lots of comments I had to laugh. You are all making your own interpretations like the man from the future in the video. Either it's all right or none of it is. And it smells like bullshit to me.
bishbosh1962 1 month ago
But... if everyone tries to sell everything they own... no one would buy anything from other people selling things
MasterYangLi 1 month ago in playlist More videos from NonStampCollector
this is not realistic. going back in time is impossible!
Alenthas 1 month ago
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j919or //I agree with James ch3 which says that there are 2 types of wisdom. Wisdom from above and wisdom from below. Wisdom from below is earthy natural and DEMONIC, while wisdom from above is pure peaceable and full of good results. I cowardly choose wisdom from above.//
Fundies say the damndest things XD this is pure comedy gold, grade A bullshit made all the more wonderful by the possibility that the person who said it may actually believe it.
monktwo 1 month ago
lol, that guy is the spirit of the Reformation.
cyberslayer002 1 month ago
@cyberslayer002 Yeah many words of Jesus arent understood properly in their historical context. Just because Jesus said it to SOME people , doesnt mean it applies to ALL people.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or "Just because Jesus said it to SOME people , doesnt mean it applies to ALL people."
so the sayings were made into a book and told every christian to follow it.
way to go rationality!
OmfgItsHenu 1 month ago
@OmfgItsHenu No. If you had rationality ud know that Jesus said those things to those people at that time and that they would understand what the word discipleship meant. It just means the process of learning. Jesus said that to be saved or to receive eternal life is to entrust yourself to Him. IOW He would do all the work in you to change you from a child of satan to a child of God.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or so what you are saying, is that gods morals change.
isnt that a problem, if omnipotence is the case?
OmfgItsHenu 1 month ago
@OmfgItsHenu This is more evidence that you are not a rational or critical thinker. This is not a question of morality. Jesus on earth at that time and traveling. Jesus is no longer on earth and traveling. Further, he did command them to sell all but gave them a conditional statement(if/then).
Jesus stated that his commands/morals are to love God and love others. That takes many forms depending on the situation.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or "This is not a question of morality."
but the argument, and the commands are mainly morally based and are crucial when interpretation is the argument subject.
oh forget it. i know how this ends, from experience.
you will ignore everything, keep spamming stuff and declare yourself the winner when i walk away losing faith in humanity. whether you acknowledge it or not.
OmfgItsHenu 1 month ago
@OmfgItsHenu.
1. What do u mean "are crucial"? Crucial for what?
2. What commands are moral based?
3. What interpretation is the argument subject? Isnt interpretation the basis for all communication?
4. You should be ignored bc you a. are confusing and vague b. wont admit that u know nothing of the subject at hand c. make allegations without support
5. Now tell us how people could follow Jesus around the countryside for an unlimited amount of time, unless they sold all their stuff?
j919or 1 month ago
I do hope he's speaking Hebrew.
Girbub 1 month ago
Let's clear up the word "law" the law you speak of is "rabbinical law " not the same as " Torah " Gods guidelines and instructions . These laws are what the Holy Spirit is to lead us by . The Messiah did not come to abolish the law , which is Torah... Because that's Gods law he fulfilled , not man's law " Rabbinical law "
u0tube0video0critic 1 month ago
Let's clear up Law, which is rabbinical law, from Torah , Guidelines and instructions , laws Moses gave us from God. Those are principles to add to our lives , Christ is not a license to live immoral lives .
u0tube0video0critic 1 month ago
@u0tube0video0critic Yes bro. The law is gone once the Spirit comes for the Spirit empowers , guides and convicts of sin. What is our part now? Set our minds on the Spirit, confess that our sinful nature is gross and ask God to take control of our lives, then stand back and watch as the infnite power and love of the Creator of the universe is revealed TO you and THRU you.
j919or 1 month ago
I praise God for the work He is doing in ur life, bro(utubevidcritic)
j919or 1 month ago
Right, but you know what, you video speaks of all the Christians who do not read scripture , the Christians who don't go beyond the first step of salvation . Because I myself have started useing the term messianic believer to set apart from Christian because that term is being used by to many washed up people spreading non scripture based knowledge which then becomes contradictions as in your video.
u0tube0video0critic 1 month ago
Mmmmmm....poooork.....
IEatGods666 1 month ago
Who the fuck watches fox news? Fox is full of lies.
JuliusIsMe 1 month ago
Salcation through Christ , then as Christians we live by following the law . there are to many incomplet Christians spreading this same stuff
u0tube0video0critic 2 months ago
@u0tube0video0critic "Christians we live by following the law "
Christians are dead to the law and alive to Christ Romans 7. Let God take control of ur life by the Holy Spirit
j919or 1 month ago
but alot of these verses are even taken out of content as well
u0tube0video0critic 2 months ago
@u0tube0video0critic Get rid of 'even' and change 'content' to 'context' and you will have mastered the most used line by uniformed christians :D
Controversialize 1 month ago
...So...we just need to believe in Jesus and sell all our stuff?
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@DHSpeaks ""believe in Jesus and sell all our stuff?""
Jesus just commanded certian individuals to sell their stuff. The command to u is to entrust your life to Him to take control and guide and empower you to do the will of God and love it too.
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GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@j919or “In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple” (Luke 14:33).
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@GypsyLeah ""(Luke 14:33)."
In order to be Jesus' disciple at the time He spoke this, u needed to travel with Him. So u had to say goodbye to all ur stuff and ur family. This doesnt apply today in the same way since now Jesus lives in each believer. But when He lives in you, He takes over and leads and guides you in various ways, which may or may not require travel etc.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@GypsyLeah Right and since we are nearly all rich compared to those of that day we are all doomed? jesus said that with man its impossible but with God all things are possible.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or So what you're saying is that the Bible contradicts itself?
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@j919or It doesn't say any of that stuff in the Bible. You just made it up.
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@GypsyLeah "You just made it up""
Nah. U just made that up. Stop making up stuff .
Nah. I was never saying that the bible contradicts itself. Stop making stuff up.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or Sure, I posted a verse that says you have to be poor to go to heaven and you posted a verse that says god can do anything. There are plenty of verses that have other things to say. Thay can't all be right!
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
Please, PLEASE, make an Old Testament version of this, where some one twists the words of the horrible things God did, and mentions metaphors.
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Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'
So basically jesus didn't want anyone on the outside to know what he was talking about and made it intentionally vague. Nice
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""jesus didn't want anyone on the outside to know ""
Rather Jesus did a filter. Those that just wanted to be entertained and fed remained on the outside and those that wanted truth asked for meaning of the parables. Jesus used a common method of teaching to state things vaguely and then wait for those that really wanted to know to ask for deeper understanding.
Same today. There are many that dont want truth and God allows them to remain in their ignorance.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or Did the character of jesus in the bible want everyone to follow him and go to heaven, yes or no? Except in his almighty wisdom he purposely invented a filter to keep people out 'lest they turn and be forgiven!'
Few christians I've encountered actually care about truth, they cherrypick & take things on faith & just assume things are true in spite of evidence in reality and when they're asked to live up to their burden of proof they become hostile, forsaking their duty in 1 Peter 3:15.
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""keep people out 'lest they turn and be forgiven!'""
Yes they could not believe bc they WOULD not believe. So if you dont want to be transformed completely by God then you want to keep trusting in self and resisting the creator. So to give one a false idea that they were forgiven when really they havent wanted to be forgiven at the root of their defiance is what is in view here.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or it is the theist who believes because of choice, because of desire and want. There is no resistance on my part. Skepticism isn't closed-mindedness. Waiting and asking for evidence to prove the truth of a claim is reasonable, believing extraordinary claims in spite of evidence isn't.
"Yes they could not believe bc they WOULD not believe." I repeat, that is not what the passage says. It clearly says jesus intentionally spoke vague to keep people from understanding his message.
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense Read it again.
John 12.they still WOULD not believe in him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”[h] 39 For this reason they COULD not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or so god created those people skeptical and unwilling to believe all to obey ancient scripture and those people went to hell exactly as he planned, right? If he didn't create those people skeptical, then the prophecies wouldn't fit (none of them do anyway: predicting people will be skeptical of outlandish magical claims is hardly magic, it's common sense) so god made people solely to send them to hell...
Still think this is an awesome god? The torturing blood tyrant in the sky?
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""Still think this is an awesome god? The torturing blood tyrant in the sky?""
I used to think God was harsh until I viewed people like you and how evil and twisted is ur agenda and just how hostile u are towards God and all that is good. Now Im amazed that God puts up with you all for another second.
j919or 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""god made people solely to send them to hell...""
Perhaps. But each has the oppt for heaven for eternal life is a gift of God. God also knows that ur evil will cause you to reject what is best and choose the absolute worst for urselves.
j919or 2 months ago
Now Jesus spoke in parables so that those that wanted to believe would come to him and ask for the explanation and those that didnt want to believe would just go their way never understanding the meaning of what was taught.
You prove that you are hostile towards God and have already chosen hell and therefore I hope only to convince other readers not to rebel against your creator for He is AWESOME!
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or I am on principle hostile towards mass-murderers. Why aren't you? But you're missing the point: I base my beliefs on evidence. If your beliefs aren't based on evidence in reality you are spreading falsehoods and lies and telling people it's truth: yes I am hostile to that. I do not choose my beliefs, so I cannot choose hell, if indeed your god punishes my honesty and rewards your gullibility. You haven't proven he's my creator. You want power over me, I defend myself, and I'm hostile?
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""I do not choose my beliefs, so I cannot choose hell""
Uve tasted arrogance and apparently u like it. Hell is for the arrogant.
Your beliefs are based on ur perception. Your perception is warped by evil , hence your beliefs are evil.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or "Hell is for the arrogant."
I feel bad for you then.
JackDavid6405 2 months ago
@JackDavid6405 The implication was UNREPENTANT arrogant
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or repeating yourself doesn't make it go away. 'lest they turn and be forgiven'. Did jesus not want that?
Beliefs aren't chosen. Either jesus could prove he was god or he could not convince them. Is god not omnipotent? It only proves jesus was incompetent that his message could not convince people. Your logic is nonsensical: why would people want to rebel against a loving god? Oh, that god sends people to INFINITE TORTURE IN HELL?? Then it's not a loving god. It's a tyrant. Obey or burn
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""Beliefs aren't chosen.""
Thats ur opinion. The text says that they had plenty of evidence(just as u do) and still they would not believe(just like u). You have no idea how powerful is evil and what a strangle hold it has on you.
j919or 2 months ago
@viridismonasteriense ""jesus was incompetent that his message could not convince people.""
Jesus did miracles and they still refused to believe, showing that people dont base belief on evidence but rather on preference.
JOHN 3.19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
j919or 2 months ago
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@j919or While you puke out your bile, calling everyone who disagrees with you evil, you are the 1 who clearly shows the signs of evil influence. You should consider an exorcism, DUMBO.
Strangerinasland 2 months ago
@j919or I always play a good guy in video games
Controversialize 1 month ago
@j919or and before you make idiotic claims about me really believing he exists (sigh) I am only speaking hypothetically on the matter.
You don't believe in Allah! So that must mean you only not believe to rebel against him, you don't want to obey Allah's laws, you want to be a sinner, you only believe because you don't want to believe!
Do you get a feeling of how silly that sounds? How retarded such a claim would be?
Your rebellious atheist strawman is nonsensically stupid.
viridismonasteriense 2 months ago
Very well done. It's funny!
lorenavelvet 2 months ago
lol "You don't have Fox news or youtube?..." made my day xD
Redeemedsinner17 2 months ago
He then gave me wisdom confidence and ability and now its all clear and I crush atheists and skeptics, but more importantly I now know that God trapps the proud in unbelief but opens the eyes of those that admit that they are blind to the truth and unable to get it w/o wisdom from God. As a result, I love Him all the more.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or Re: “I challenged you to do more than provide book reference but actually debate the topic. Debate me or admit u cant!. “ >< Why didn’t you didn’t you click on the “Reply” box to add your response to my comment, huh? You coward. Afraid it would drop your cowardly response in my email box didn’t you? I anticipated that. I also noticed you chose this video forum for its “low” or “no” viewer traffic. Fear not, I’ll keep up on my end, because I want others to see the references.
RRoocckkyy50 2 months ago
@j919or Apologist alert! Apologist alert! Hang on to your tops or it'll blow right off in irritation... Dude, there's really no other thing to say to you other than call you an idiot and a liar... You and those like you are a blight to human kind and should be eradicated... If you believe in all this crap, then feel free... But stop lying... STOP LYING!
champjklccmk 2 months ago
@champjklccmk ""call you an idiot and a liar...""
You atheists like to demand evidence while you make claims such as above with no evidence or argument whatsoever. Hence it appears that yall are the liars and the hypocrites.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or What, you say there's no evidence for the things I said? You've scrawled plenty of them all over the damn comment section! You're an apologist since you seem to be explaining away all the BS your bible spouts and you're an idiot and a liar for doing so because you try to twist the truth. It isn't working BTW... YOU provided all the evidence I ever needed for my statement...
champjklccmk 2 months ago
@champjklccmk ""you say there's no evidence for the things I said?""
Typical. This blind spawn of satan complains about being uncovered as a fraud with no evidence. But does he respond with evidence or with more emotional rants? you be the judge.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or The line you quoted was a clarification on my part. And I GAVE you the evidence (well, actually YOU gave them to me) you so blindingly accused me of having no basis on. Just be honest with yourself. There is nothing in your faith that comes anywhere near being right or accurate. You're just an empty husk of a person, trying to fill the void with nonsensical things and slowly realizing that none of them work. So you try and drag others down with you since misery loves company.
champjklccmk 2 months ago
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@champjklccmk Still no evidence? Do you even exist?
j919or 2 months ago
Yes spoke to individuals with varying messages according to the setting and their condition. Like sell all and keep the commands. Ultimately only faith saves and that salvation empowers obedience for that salvation frees people from satan their father and sin their master.
All those people instantly receive the gift of eternal life all the rest will be cast out for ever no matter their level of evil.
j919or 2 months ago
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Jesus fulfilled the law
j919or 2 months ago
It says not to call a BROTHER a fool. An atheist is not a brother but a child of hell
j919or 2 months ago
As far as it goes historically, Jesus was a Jew living in a period of Persecution for the Jewish people, Jesus was a Jewish speaker trying to inspire hope and faith in the people that they would get out of this mess and not be executed and such, , these stories were then passed down to a man named Paul, who wrote up many stories and happening occuring that included Jesus being the savior, and such. To be honest, if Jesus came back today, he'd have no idea what christianity is.
HyperChief117 3 months ago
Great video. I hope all the religion wackos reading and watching this might actually learn something.. If you're going to fallow the bible and make yourself and your religion appear all high and mighty at least you can fallow the bible as Jesus taught. I know for sure 99 percent of religions people don't do a single thing this video depicted. Otherwise you will all be going to hell anyway. Enjoy
logik8469 3 months ago
The comments about "taking verses out of context" probably have some merit to them, but it's refreshing to see someone dealing with Jesus' own words rather than vague recollections from nowhere.
Anyway, Jesus' words have always been a barb to his followers. If there's gap between our lives as followers of Jesus and Jesus' words then lets hear it - whatever the medium.
And we don't really know nonstamp's heart...but perhaps like Jesus says to one guy, "You are not far from the kingdom of God"
6jamrobbo 3 months ago
@6jamrobbo how does jesus/ god (whichever have you) rationalize sending 9 million children a year (human development index) to hell for eternity. also the billions throughout history who have not believed in the 'correct' god. Also the billions before the word of christ was given to us. So we're talking about all deaths since about 98,000 B.C. to year 0. The minority that is christ followers are doing a bad job at safeguarding the souls of humanity if you ask me
tamu77095 3 months ago
@tamu77095 wow, you ask me such a hard question! I don't think I could answer that. Where did you find out that God is sending 9 million children to hell each year? Maybe that would be a good place to look for an answer. In the meantime I'll have a think about it.
6jamrobbo 3 months ago