if the fourth 9 comes its a dirty rig. matusow played that perfectly, simple as that. sometimes u have to slowplay kings, normally i crucify people for it. if they lose with kings im first on their case if they slowplayed it. but utg as matusow was, he was in perfect rights to trap negreanu. its nitty, but its efficient. but tbh majority of the time, raise preflop so that u can isolate and stop marginal hands calling.
its funny that all the poker pros on here would be ragging on mike for letting daniel in cheap if there had been 2 9s and no king on the flop, but because the king hit he is some kind of genius.
@dieselboy87 yes but when u get lucky u still have to play it right and for max value. if he called the raise on the flop then negreanu would have had an extra and "cheap" chance at hitting his one golden out. why the fuck should matusow not raise?? negreanu was showing strength, and matusow priced him in to call or shove. but i agree, it is funny how he gets max praise. any other time, and you should raise preflop.
@tuestresfat ermmmm no actually it can be tough, if he didnt raise an amount optimal to price negreanu in to call or raise then he plays it wrong. im gonna assume ur raising and betting strategy is perfect, or ur just really naive.
I'm not sure what Daniel expects to get value from by going all in. Comments along the lines of "The hand played itself" shows a lack of understanding about relative hand strength. Calling the $40,000 to see what Mike does on the turn is way better than shoving. If Mike bets again he has zero fear of Daniel holding a 9, then it's an easy fold.
@Lixhul ermmm actually sometimes ya just feel inclined to fold trips. negreanu didnt suspect a boat until matusow eagerly shove called. to some extent it is a "trap" but matusow without the ammunition card on the flop was absolutely screwed. he extracted value perfectly from daniel, but its not a trap. but it dont mean any1 should be berating matusow for how he played it. he played it fine in context. simple as that. but u shouldnt be setting out to slowplay every time
@Sjobeck7 running more than once is a good way to avoid bad beats. in a long term it may not be profitable, but for that specifig game you're playing it's good cause even when bad beat occur, you still have few chips left (provided you win other runs). In addition, it's considered a good manner.
If I was Negreanu I'd have definitely wanted a 5% chance of scooping than a 10% chance of splitting with the idiot. To see Mattusow sitting smugly on a juicy freeroll would have been too much, especially when to catch a case would have had him looking for the nearest bridge to jump off.
run it twice = awesome, at worst he chops if Daniel gets super-lucky and hits his 1-outer. Otherwise if super-bad-luck he loses the pot... but huge majority of time Mikey wins both runs. ezgame.
@simonjeste run it once is really the way most cold hearted pros like ivey would do. running it twice is being nice. with odds like that you don't want to give em the extra shot of getting there money back.
@VicenzoV hmm maybe gabe relies on that screen showing hole cards too much. just ignore him, he has basically no right to judge peoples plays whatsoever. he might be experienced but he has to respect how negreanu and matusow play the hand. so fuck negreanu had a 9! matusow had the nuts, he was raising i suspect cos he knew he could price negreanu into stay on. contexts change dramatically but gabe here was very naive
@Resshuuken he might have mild autism or something along those lines. i do, and its effects can be shall we say " inconsistent". one time they are good, others catastrophic.
@tschuggggi mate, uve never played high stakes so i suggest you shut the fuck up. how do u act when u flop a set?? i would love to hear ur strategy whilst not being able to see ur opponents hole cards ya novice. do not berate negreanu, u are nothing compared to him
if mike flat calls flop, DN has no way to get away from hand unless the last king in the deck pops up. by reraising flop, he basically told DN that he had 9x or better, so DN could only beat a bluff and small chance they'd split
daniel should've laid it down. ive seen him lay down similar hands and any decent thinking player could. after mike reraised him, DN was either crushed or hoping for a split. its unlikely that mike would float flop only to reraise bluff and also i doubt he would turn TP into a bluff since DN was clearly repping 9x. i think mike also played it badly. he knows DN is repping 9x so he should just flat call flop. only the last king on turn or river would kill his action. by mike flat calling flop,
The way Mike played that whole series, Daniel should have been suspicious tbh. From how he played it, it pretty much had to be aces (unlikely he'd raise as Mike plays so tight), kings or a bigger 9, AK at a push. There's no draws on that board. Still nearly impossible to get away from though, especially when you think everyone is out to bluff you like Daniel seems to. Daniel doesn't have a set btw, he has trips!
@gonelikedinner it's really not! Trips are when you have a 9 in your hand, and two 9's come up on the board, as in here. A set is when you have pocket 9's, and a 9 comes up on the board. A set is a hand that can get a lot more chips as it is better disguised.
@gonelikedinner it's not the same thing at all. I'm not going to get in a petty argument over simple terminology, but you should look it up else where before claiming you know things. you don't know much about poker if you think it's the same thing! highly amateurish to think set and trips are the same.
I think mike is a degenerate gambler, not a poker player. The way he acts when he wins a big pot is like its the most money he has ever as if he is playing over his head and the money means so much to him.
i watched this episode and gabe is right, mike played extremely tight, daniel should of picked up on that and let it go, Mike only played a couple of pots
@TomiAk47 Negreanu is such an overconfident, irritating cunt most of the time I applaud Mattusow for applying the needle. Especially after Negreanu repeatedly insulted him from the booth on HSP season 3.
you are poor, multi-accounting to defend yourself on youtube -.- ' ...
apart from the fact that there are AT LEAST 40 ppl who agree with me, you do know that you lose ~20-25% PE with every other player you let into the pot with KK (assuming none of them has an A in his hand) or AA so why on earth would you allow a loose player like daniel to see a flop?! ... please stfu, i wont write back anyways
@snookerjam i'd love to hang out with the mouth. who you gunna hang out with barry greenstien and howard lederer? lol not like i wouldn't love to hang out with those guys too but they ain't exactly the life of the party.
I think daniel was right in putting a 3 bet there with the 9 no doubt. But if he would just shove the 4 bet by mike, I don't think he would have gone broke on the turn or river. Mike played so tight this season and you cannot even put mike here calling a raise prelop with a weak 9. A-K Q-K possible, but I don't think he would had 4 bet that flop. he doesn't have the balls to do it out of position specially knowing that daniel loves to play middle suited connectors cards.
i really think daniel coulda laid this down; the range of hands that mike has there; just calling the bet by eli after the flop and then reraising daniels raise is so small that there is no hand daniel has beat i really think its either A9, KK, or possibly K9 suited. Ppl are gonna call me an idiot for saying this but i really think this was a pretty easy laydown, after mike reraised daniels hand became a bluff catcher at best.
@hockeyislife67 i dont disagree with you, if this were a tournament i almost guarantee negeanu lays down. his implied odds were great, and im guessing his read was matusow sitting on AK. In that session matusow was playing extremely tight, and AK would be a perfect hand for him to limp call with and raise that flop with. hard to lay daniels hand down in that situation, in a tourney i bet he would have though.
@titties100 the thing that made mikes had seem so strong was the raise on the flop, it was the flat call from the first flop bet, and then the three bet he performed after daniel raised. If it was a simple bet raise situation, then its probably ak. At least thats how i read this situation
if the fourth 9 comes its a dirty rig. matusow played that perfectly, simple as that. sometimes u have to slowplay kings, normally i crucify people for it. if they lose with kings im first on their case if they slowplayed it. but utg as matusow was, he was in perfect rights to trap negreanu. its nitty, but its efficient. but tbh majority of the time, raise preflop so that u can isolate and stop marginal hands calling.
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
its funny that all the poker pros on here would be ragging on mike for letting daniel in cheap if there had been 2 9s and no king on the flop, but because the king hit he is some kind of genius.
dieselboy87 1 month ago
@dieselboy87 yes but when u get lucky u still have to play it right and for max value. if he called the raise on the flop then negreanu would have had an extra and "cheap" chance at hitting his one golden out. why the fuck should matusow not raise?? negreanu was showing strength, and matusow priced him in to call or shove. but i agree, it is funny how he gets max praise. any other time, and you should raise preflop.
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
so hard to trap your opponent when you flop full house and they flop trips...
tuestresfat 2 months ago
@tuestresfat ermmmm no actually it can be tough, if he didnt raise an amount optimal to price negreanu in to call or raise then he plays it wrong. im gonna assume ur raising and betting strategy is perfect, or ur just really naive.
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
@weatherallc05 can't remember why i typed this a month ago, and not bothered to rewatch it to reply to some silly retort over youtube
tuestresfat 3 weeks ago
@tuestresfat please talk lolol
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
dam how much money do these guys keep on them
MoveRed 2 months ago
I'm not sure what Daniel expects to get value from by going all in. Comments along the lines of "The hand played itself" shows a lack of understanding about relative hand strength. Calling the $40,000 to see what Mike does on the turn is way better than shoving. If Mike bets again he has zero fear of Daniel holding a 9, then it's an easy fold.
Lexington365 2 months ago
Mike Matusow is a legit aspie. Dude's fucking retarded.
LargePickles 2 months ago
This is not trapping, this is just a cooler that has to be paid off. You fold that hand you may aswell go home.
Lixhul 2 months ago
@Lixhul ermmm actually sometimes ya just feel inclined to fold trips. negreanu didnt suspect a boat until matusow eagerly shove called. to some extent it is a "trap" but matusow without the ammunition card on the flop was absolutely screwed. he extracted value perfectly from daniel, but its not a trap. but it dont mean any1 should be berating matusow for how he played it. he played it fine in context. simple as that. but u shouldnt be setting out to slowplay every time
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
hes just a fat kid
BigCWii2006 3 months ago 2
what kinda hold em is that
icdpckrs 3 months ago
Doyle: "BOOM" hahaha
DingDongDingDing333 3 months ago 2
Daniel is always so unlucky in high stakes, but this time he walked into the face of a monster!
mahtay2000 3 months ago
lmao i got 2 4s, that was so great
RYANACE239 3 months ago
the hands play themselves, nothing to be proud of
jorgej87 3 months ago
mike is a good guy, he just got a little cocky when he won this huge pot because it means a lot for him, but he has a good heart
jorgej87 3 months ago
You don't run it twice Mike... but that was a nice gesture, sure schooled them that time...! :O
Sjobeck7 4 months ago
@Sjobeck7 running more than once is a good way to avoid bad beats. in a long term it may not be profitable, but for that specifig game you're playing it's good cause even when bad beat occur, you still have few chips left (provided you win other runs). In addition, it's considered a good manner.
rpbkrpbk 3 months ago
hahahaha...3:13 ...love how eli is fucking mike
solozzovienna 4 months ago 2
Why run it twice Mike?
2Addicted2YT 4 months ago
@2Addicted2YT thats an ev+ decision he is guaranteed to win 50% of the pot. since there is only one nine in the deck
Agent0range67 4 months ago
why is Al Bundy playing poker in 2010. hahaha.
TacoManTuesday 5 months ago
boom!
beanz323232 5 months ago
If I was Negreanu I'd have definitely wanted a 5% chance of scooping than a 10% chance of splitting with the idiot. To see Mattusow sitting smugly on a juicy freeroll would have been too much, especially when to catch a case would have had him looking for the nearest bridge to jump off.
thespacialone 5 months ago
@thespacialone Not everyone wants to make their friends feel suicidal.
boonce88 5 months ago
@boonce88 When your buddies with the Mouth, you make exceptions! (Kidding, and kidding). Peace
thespacialone 5 months ago
@thespacialone relax. you can't be that sweet if you let people annoy you like that.
DroppinKnowledge69 4 months ago
@DroppinKnowledge69 you're weird
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champions20000009 5 months ago
run it twice = awesome, at worst he chops if Daniel gets super-lucky and hits his 1-outer. Otherwise if super-bad-luck he loses the pot... but huge majority of time Mikey wins both runs. ezgame.
simonjeste 6 months ago
@simonjeste run it once is really the way most cold hearted pros like ivey would do. running it twice is being nice. with odds like that you don't want to give em the extra shot of getting there money back.
DroppinKnowledge69 4 months ago
No wonder why he's single
MrRussin10 6 months ago
season ep?
rommi27 6 months ago
Keep pressing 8 :D BOOM !
fuckyouhorsefucker 7 months ago 2
Does anyone understand Gabe's comments?
"Mike should raise here, his hand is so huge... and he doesn't."
Then, 10 seconds later;
"Mike should realize Daniel has a 9 here and not raise... but he raises."
So raising Kings Full with 2 other players in the hand is good idea, but when it's just Daniel left the 3-bet on the flop is bad idea?
VicenzoV 7 months ago
@VicenzoV think he said
..."now Mike shouldn't raise here"...
at least that's how I heard it, think it makes more sense for him to say that anyway
n8style 7 months ago
@VicenzoV hmm maybe gabe relies on that screen showing hole cards too much. just ignore him, he has basically no right to judge peoples plays whatsoever. he might be experienced but he has to respect how negreanu and matusow play the hand. so fuck negreanu had a 9! matusow had the nuts, he was raising i suspect cos he knew he could price negreanu into stay on. contexts change dramatically but gabe here was very naive
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
Mike's a great player. You can tell though he's got some sort of social disorder. That or hes just VERY nervous in interviews.
Resshuuken 7 months ago
@Resshuuken he might have mild autism or something along those lines. i do, and its effects can be shall we say " inconsistent". one time they are good, others catastrophic.
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
I respect mike but I'd rather not ever see him at any cash game ever again
Fileaxx 7 months ago
as much as i love daniel this was terrible...what does he put mike on ???
tschuggggi 7 months ago
@tschuggggi AK? high pocket pairs, etc ?
TreKaufPL 7 months ago
@tschuggggi mate, uve never played high stakes so i suggest you shut the fuck up. how do u act when u flop a set?? i would love to hear ur strategy whilst not being able to see ur opponents hole cards ya novice. do not berate negreanu, u are nothing compared to him
weatherallc05 3 weeks ago
Mike Matusow , you 're a fucking asshole.
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champions20000009 8 months ago
I love Doyle saying boom it's hilarious.
Horatio268 8 months ago 10
if mike flat calls flop, DN has no way to get away from hand unless the last king in the deck pops up. by reraising flop, he basically told DN that he had 9x or better, so DN could only beat a bluff and small chance they'd split
ucla198 9 months ago
daniel should've laid it down. ive seen him lay down similar hands and any decent thinking player could. after mike reraised him, DN was either crushed or hoping for a split. its unlikely that mike would float flop only to reraise bluff and also i doubt he would turn TP into a bluff since DN was clearly repping 9x. i think mike also played it badly. he knows DN is repping 9x so he should just flat call flop. only the last king on turn or river would kill his action. by mike flat calling flop,
ucla198 9 months ago
"that's how u play poker"?! He got a lucky flop where Daniel got super cold decked.
PrettyBoyFalco 9 months ago
ELI ELEZRA @ 3:12
xELxSOBREVIVIENTEx 9 months ago
I think Dwan couldve folded that
bohemia187 9 months ago
@bohemia187 HAHA, Dwan would have shoved with pocket fours there!
toptenguy1 8 months ago
The way Mike played that whole series, Daniel should have been suspicious tbh. From how he played it, it pretty much had to be aces (unlikely he'd raise as Mike plays so tight), kings or a bigger 9, AK at a push. There's no draws on that board. Still nearly impossible to get away from though, especially when you think everyone is out to bluff you like Daniel seems to. Daniel doesn't have a set btw, he has trips!
lolwut54321 9 months ago
@lolwut54321 sets are trips.
crapdik 9 months ago
@lolwut54321 its the same thing lol
gonelikedinner 8 months ago
@gonelikedinner it's really not! Trips are when you have a 9 in your hand, and two 9's come up on the board, as in here. A set is when you have pocket 9's, and a 9 comes up on the board. A set is a hand that can get a lot more chips as it is better disguised.
lolwut54321 8 months ago
@lolwut54321 its the same damn thing you have three of a kind..either trips or a set does not really matter..its all the same lol
gonelikedinner 8 months ago
@gonelikedinner it's not the same thing at all. I'm not going to get in a petty argument over simple terminology, but you should look it up else where before claiming you know things. you don't know much about poker if you think it's the same thing! highly amateurish to think set and trips are the same.
lolwut54321 7 months ago
mike sucks always play tight is the worst
ysasi100 9 months ago
this is not a trap... i mean of course he slowplays it, but daniel has a set so what should he do
xELxSOBREVIVIENTEx 10 months ago
I think mike is a degenerate gambler, not a poker player. The way he acts when he wins a big pot is like its the most money he has ever as if he is playing over his head and the money means so much to him.
chrisalexander21 10 months ago
eli is soo right mocking this sucker, Matusow is an asshole, not the kind of players to look after...
ttboy73 10 months ago
mike is annoying as hell, but it works to his advantage to put players on tilt
101111101101 10 months ago
lmao eli
z4kkk 10 months ago 6
why a double turn and river??
favy086 10 months ago
@favy086 bcz daniel and mike agreed to "run it twice" , means 2 turn and 2 river.
sunnyboy8644 10 months ago
mike plays like a nit these days... what happened to the old mike
nybombs 10 months ago
That was really bad Daniel. I surely hope you read this.
Fileaxx 11 months ago
i watched this episode and gabe is right, mike played extremely tight, daniel should of picked up on that and let it go, Mike only played a couple of pots
smokethis100 11 months ago
that's how you play poker???
a nittard comes to play the big game and flops the world's fair vs trips....
that's how you flop houses!!!
fabio05cannavaro 1 year ago
I like Doyle, he "BOOMS" quite a lot on river cards, haha :-)
I like Matusow as well, but he was out of line in this hand.
WaspSnG 1 year ago
eli always sits on the ends...
speedmetal99 1 year ago
"thats how you play poker" hahahaha what an idiot...
TomiAk47 1 year ago 43
@TomiAk47 Negreanu is such an overconfident, irritating cunt most of the time I applaud Mattusow for applying the needle. Especially after Negreanu repeatedly insulted him from the booth on HSP season 3.
gazz12345a 6 months ago
@gazz12345a
well i am not so sure if it was just a needle for DN ... but in general i agree with your statement
TomiAk47 6 months ago
@TomiAk47 he trapped daniel very well. you would probably go RAISE MILLION! pre-flop and get blinds, right?
rpbkrpbk 3 months ago
@rpbkrpbk
preflop: no raise with KK while one player is left to act behind you? --> master (Y)
flop: trips for DN; kings full for matusow ...
so is this really "how you play poker boys"? a cooler which happened to be in matusows favour;
end of story! and btw: i am neither a DN-fan nor a matusow hater, this statement was just idiotic
TomiAk47 3 months ago
@TomiAk47 to be fair he's right and he played that great
Dont comment if you don't know anything about poker
0210mick 2 months ago
@0210mick
you are poor, multi-accounting to defend yourself on youtube -.- ' ...
apart from the fact that there are AT LEAST 40 ppl who agree with me, you do know that you lose ~20-25% PE with every other player you let into the pot with KK (assuming none of them has an A in his hand) or AA so why on earth would you allow a loose player like daniel to see a flop?! ... please stfu, i wont write back anyways
TomiAk47 2 months ago
@TomiAk47 i got 1 acc but ehm, you say a loose player like daniel, so he most of the times got nothing, so it's smart to let him see the flop.
If he raised preflop, daniel would have folded, and he would have won less money
0210mick 1 month ago
mike just seemes such a idiot to me. A person that u would never hang out with
snookerjam 1 year ago 44
@snookerjam i'd love to hang out with the mouth. who you gunna hang out with barry greenstien and howard lederer? lol not like i wouldn't love to hang out with those guys too but they ain't exactly the life of the party.
DroppinKnowledge69 4 months ago
I think daniel was right in putting a 3 bet there with the 9 no doubt. But if he would just shove the 4 bet by mike, I don't think he would have gone broke on the turn or river. Mike played so tight this season and you cannot even put mike here calling a raise prelop with a weak 9. A-K Q-K possible, but I don't think he would had 4 bet that flop. he doesn't have the balls to do it out of position specially knowing that daniel loves to play middle suited connectors cards.
moctezuma2008 1 year ago
what do you think i got? I got two 4s mike hahahahahah
moctezuma2008 1 year ago
matusow is a fucking douchebag
vinsterw 1 year ago
i really think daniel coulda laid this down; the range of hands that mike has there; just calling the bet by eli after the flop and then reraising daniels raise is so small that there is no hand daniel has beat i really think its either A9, KK, or possibly K9 suited. Ppl are gonna call me an idiot for saying this but i really think this was a pretty easy laydown, after mike reraised daniels hand became a bluff catcher at best.
hockeyislife67 1 year ago
@hockeyislife67 i dont disagree with you, if this were a tournament i almost guarantee negeanu lays down. his implied odds were great, and im guessing his read was matusow sitting on AK. In that session matusow was playing extremely tight, and AK would be a perfect hand for him to limp call with and raise that flop with. hard to lay daniels hand down in that situation, in a tourney i bet he would have though.
titties100 1 year ago
@titties100 the thing that made mikes had seem so strong was the raise on the flop, it was the flat call from the first flop bet, and then the three bet he performed after daniel raised. If it was a simple bet raise situation, then its probably ak. At least thats how i read this situation
hockeyislife67 1 year ago
matusow didnt trap daniel. the deck trapped him.
mellettolag 1 year ago
That knuckle of mike looks like a tell...
MrSmartComment 1 year ago
LOL at 2:51 when Mike slams the chips down it looked like he had some sort of epeleptic fit.. LOL HAHAHAHAHHA
whoshotya7 1 year ago
@whoshotya7
I don't see it.
boskinator 1 year ago
"thats how you play poker boys". mike is the biggest bitch allaround, this is why i love to see him run bad unlike the other players
leavethebunnyalone 1 year ago
"Flops kings full and he's so proud of himself!" LMAO ELI KILLS ME!!
KhaniSpearman4life 1 year ago
woo mike felts daniel twice that hurts
galvezestevez 1 year ago