FOX News Reports on Democrats' Massive Energy Tax Hike

[jrhd00d84]

First of all there is not record low temperatures all over the globe and those studies that state that are funded by Republicans. Second of all taxes has nothing to do with job creation. If it did then there would almost be no unemployment right now considering the rich are being taxed less then they ever had. Third if the Republicans paid decent wages to their employees and quit giving themselves huge amounts of money we could pay for these higher electric bills.

[FreedomInAmerica]

watch?v=0ZS-7WzazfU

I made a video talking about the big picture with Obama. I hope you spend 10 minutes viewing it, so you can see what Obama is really about.

"Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we're going to have to change our traditions, our history; we're going to have to move into a different place as a nation."

-Michelle Obama

[sparky41684]

fuck this country ..america is dead

[gonadcancervictim]

I had sex with al gores mom

[FreeAgain2]

Better NO - than some stupid moronic plan that will cost everyone jobs and taxes while not doing ANYTHING for the climate. Note China and India gave Clinton her walking papers.

[AgnesBojaxhiu2000]

the rushie herbert hoover neocons is the obstruction party of NO .. the neocons are mind controlled mega ditto heads ... manson family i mean meocon family continue to dis global warming & will tell you that 'drill baby drill' & invasion/occupation of middle eastern countries is the best for energy ... but i was reading about massey energy & how they strip mine hundred of thousands of acres for coal ... i had the ipo of massey energy ... but got rid of it because of zillions of lawsuits

[FreeAgain2]

Will congress even READ the bill? It is 1200+ pages.

The USA is the Saudia Arabia of COAL.

[kb1g]

If we are independent and empowered, then they cannot control us much. It's about crashing the US economy, dropping trowel for our enemies, and breaking up the republic. These folks are traitors.

[jorge0214]

Again- this proposla is basically the SAME that McCain put forth last year.

Why was it fine for a WHITE RePUBLICAN preoposed it but NOT now?

Regardless- the discussion I would like to see is about the merits of TAXING WORK vs. TAXING CONSUMPTION.

Obama wants to cut taxes for working people and off-set this with fees for buying stuff AND help save the earth for our children.

What to do? Stay on the same road to failure that Bush put us on?

War, Borrow, Spend, and ignore the future?

[Jckincai]

I don't think people realize just how much this carbon tax will effect all of us. Its not just going to make our gas and electric/utilities go up, it will effect everything, as in goods and services. That means our food, clothing, health care, proscription drugs, entertainment, luxury items, ect, ect, ect...

And lets not forget how many jobs will be effected by this.

[dianapatriot11]

LMAO Science? who invented this science?

[jorge0214]

Every Noble winning and repsected science professional believes this is real.

How can you think that we can continue to spew our waste into the air and not think there will NOT be a reaction?

OBAMA wants to cut taxes for WORKINH people and try and reduce our use of carbon fuels by taxing that.

NO ONE has to pay more taxes unless you want to spend your $ on carbon producing energy consumption.

It is as sinple as that:

REWARD WORK!

And don't pay any taxes unless you choose to.

[dianapatriot11]

College Professors are bought, and biased to what they want to publish to sale. Independent scientist say it is a cooling. The climate change was a hot spot on the sun that lasted 10 years. The earth's climate was at one time warmer during the prehistoric period, before the ice age.? The professors have to agree to sale books and seminars and lectures. 1970's they were selling "The New Ice age"

[jorge0214]

Thise doesn't have anything to do with professors, and everything to do with SCIENCE.

[Chaiyala]

All he knows how to do diana, is downthumb your answers. He can't prove global warming anymore then they could prove global cooling 30 years ago. He's an idiot who listens to whatever the government lies about that is an excuse to tax the people just to breathe.

It's coming out now. More and more scientists are debunking Mr. Al Gore's pseudo-science and it's going to expose them for the agenda it is.

[jjrglobal]

@jorge0214

So you expect everyone to stop using electricity?

Since there are no energy alternatives in place right now and none that are viable to sustain America in the near future, what exactly do you expect Americans and American industries to do about energy? If this is passed you can expect the US economy to completely deteriorate in the next years or so.The US will look like Zimbabwe. Mugabe might as well be president.

[jorge0214]

jjrglobal:

can the econmy get any worse after the bush tax cuts,deregulkation and debt to CHINA to fund a war ?

Burning fossil fuels to run Amerivcan corporations is a losing tatic. Even McCain supported cap and trade. You can't do business in the EU If you are going to ignore this. It is already been discussed with me in Madrid.

WHAT IS YOUR OPTION? DO NOTHING?

In Zimbabwe, the government stopped collecting all taxes and had NO REGULATIONS.

This has nothing to do with cap and trade.

[jjrglobal]

How bout you run your shit in Spain and we'll run our shit over here in America. How is higher taxes going to do anything other than destroy whats left of the economy? Give one example of taxation solving anything.

[jorge0214]

WELL, jjrglobal:

I was in Spain as an American citizen and professional, working in the global economy. I am not a sanitary engineer so i don't have a clue about "shit".

As far as for higher taxes- you seem to miss my point.

Stop taxing work!

No taxes would be great, but then how are we supposed to pay for the invasion of Iraq? Just keep borrowing from Communist China like Bush did?

A flat tax on work- and fees for consumption can only lead to the return of the English work ethic, No?

[jjrglobal]

How about we reduce the size of government and taxes. This country was not intended to have a federal government with its hand in every aspect of our lives. BTW I didn't agree with the Iraq war either, but speaking of borrowing from China, where do you think the stimulus and the 3.5 trillion dollar budget is coming from. Get ready to lose more freedom too. Yeah Obama's a fuckin nightmare

[jorge0214]

you are right- we are going to borrow money for the recovery act- but unlike the war and tax cuts for those of us who make 7 figures,

We are INVESTING in America.

Cutting government should begin with getting rid of SOCIALIST SECURITY , MEDICAID & MEDICARE. 50% of old people in nursing homes are taking money from the government just for being old and sick. How does this contribute to a capitalist society? The biggest stimulous would come from eliminating SS & MEDICARE taxes. STOP taxing work!

[jjrglobal]

So you think that giving money to individual states so that the states can continue to have 1 police car for every three civilians is a good idea?

Or maybe you think that all the Federal Buildings need remodeling? The stimulus is no investment in America, it's the fleecing of America. More government to fuck things up, yeah thats what we need.

Me and my wife owned a pediatric clinic until last year when the IRS froze all of our bank accounts and A/R, which shut us down.

[jjrglobal]

Sure, When the government takes more through taxation people tend to want to work harder for less. Its thinking like this that will cause a true tax revolt and bloody revolution.

[jjrglobal]

How can anyone defend giving another nickel to the crooks in Washington?Dont they take and waste enough already?

[jorge0214]

BIGGEST WASTE?

Bush's 3 trillion dollar war of lies!

[Chaiyala]

You should talk about educations.  You sound like you got yours from parroting what some liberal, anti-American professor taught.

[jorge0214]

Talk about educationS?

I don't know anything about anti-American professors, Unlike my Dad who went to school at Yale w/ Bush and Kerry. I went to Harvard and no one said anything anti-American. What is your issue with education?

What is the problem with lowering taxes for work?

Do you have a job? Or are you just a socialist security, medicare slug who hates America while the rest of us WORK?

TAX CONSUMPTION, NOT WORK!

Say no to lazy people on welfare & cut taxes for WORKING PEOPLE!

[jjrglobal]

@jorge

Zimbabwe redistributed wealth and destroyed what once was the most prosperous country in Africa , thats the parallel I was making to Obama and his idiotic policies. But you're right Cap and Trade taxes everyone. I agree we need to do something, but now is certainly not the time, not in the middle of a depression.

[jorge0214]

I am at aloss:

the president wants to CUT taxes for working people and because we must pay for things (like Bush's war) we can collect these costs by taxing consumtion.

If you want to use unlimited energy- all you need to do is WORK HARDER.

This is similiar the Forbes's flat tax.

What part of rewarding work don't you RACIST REPUBLICANS UNDERSTAND?

Forget the environment- I'll let you settle that with Jesus when he asks you why you raped the Earth for your own pleasure.

SADNESS....

[Jadedbyte]

It's all part and parcel of the Global Warming scam they've planned for years. it was their excuse to tax us just to breath.

They waited 30 years to pull it again after the prior generations never bought into their try at a global cooling scam. Look it up, it's true. This is all one big Al Gore & Co. LIE to make money and screw us.

[dluviam]

MIT Professor tells GOP to stop misrepresenting his work:

Today, Professor Reilly sent a forceful letter to Boehner and the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to denounce this blatant distortion being told by Congressional Republicans. Reilly noted that $3,100 was actually 10 times the correct estimate which is approximately $340″ and that the costs on lower and middle income households can be completely offset by returning allowance revenue to these households

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[dluviam]

It has come to my attention that an analysis we conducted examining proposals to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, Report No., 146, Assessment of U.S. Cap-and-Trade Proposals, has been misrepresented in recent press releases distributed by the National Republican Congressional Committee. The press release claims our report estimates an average cost per family of a carbon cap and trade program that would meet targets now being discussed in Congress to be over $3,000, but that is nearly 10 times

[dluviam]

but that is nearly 10 times the correct estimate which is approximately $340. [...] Our Report 160 shows that the costs on lower and middle income households can be completely offset by returning allowance revenue to these households.

Prof. John Reilly sent his letter directly to John Boehner.

Rep. Rob Andrews(D-NJ) read the letter in to the record on the house floor last week

Yet, the falsehood is still being repeated.

[Jadedbyte]

You're professor is a liberal idiot. There is NO SUCH THING as GLOBAL WARMING!!!! Tell your professor to tell the TRUTH!

[jorge0214]

Jade- too lazy to go to university or just afraid of smart people?

[computerpurple]

Democrats claim to care about people such as senior citizen and yet obama wants to raise the gas bill for heating our homes. This is not good for the senior citizen in the winter time. Obama cares only about obama. He cranks up the heat in the white house.

[jorge0214]

dear computerpurple:

Thanks to Obama all Seniors will find a $250 check in their SOLCIALIST Security accounts this month.

If you voted for a Republicaan you should do the honorable thing and send it back marked

I HATE SOCIALISM!

If you cash the check, you support our president.

Put up or shut up.

[computerpurple]

Hey again jorge0214. News flash for ya those reciving SS have already payed their money into it. It was their money to begin with DUH.

[jorge0214]

computerpurpleA:

This is nOT true. this is an additional FREE giveaway. You do nothing, they just give you a check.

.

Bottom line is: We fon't have the money, we are borrowing it from the COMMUNISTS to give it to lazy old people, most who draw a lot more from SS than they ever paid in.

Besides you can't belive in SOCIALIST security & be against SOCIALISM. It is one or the other right?

50% of seniors are also on MEDICAID, which is 100% SOCIALIASM.

[computerpurple]

Hello jorge214. SS is not a give away the so called "lazy old people" already without their consent had their money taken from them by way of pay check deduction for SS tax. The money is theirs to begin with. I never said anything about "believing" in as you said "SOCIALIST security. Both Bush and the rep. did try to reform SS dems said no way.

[jorge0214]

iF YOU WANT CHEAP GAS GO LIVE IN VENEZUALA!

Chaves has the same energy policy as the Republicans.

Save our planet and save our children!

America, love it or leave it!

[gismotech]

moron your a moron

you idiots save nothing your policy kills far more than it has saved

you are a fucking idiot

[jorge0214]

GOP= DRILL Baaaaaaaaby drill!!!!

CHAVEZ= DRILL Baaaaaaaby drill!!!!

Sick.

[gismotech]

Sick is what idiots like you are.

and stupid to boot.

[eugeneonegin09]

so all of you so called conservatives would rather wreck the environment just so you could have 99 cent gas

[gismotech]

you freaking retard the environment is not getting wrecked by CO2

WHAT PART OF TREES AND PLANTS NEED CO2 DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND

If you are so god dammed worried about it fucking hang yourself

[gismotech]

a freaking little boy that believes trash

grow the fuck up and quit being a dumbass

[firejack007]

the democrats are turning this country into a 3rd world nation. Obama should go be the president of Kenya instead of turning the US into it.

[eugeneonegin09]

actually republicans would turn america if they had their way into a banana republic

[gismotech]

fool

[dianapatriot11]

The Dems are a sell out to foreign interest why do you think China is able to drill here off the coast of Florida? Are the Chinese more environmentally friendly? Are the Saudis drilling for oil burning the natural gas off because the do not know how to recover it more environmentally friendly? NO. We are more environmentally friendly by our production process. Problem is dumb asses will not our men do it because of stupid regulations.

[gismotech]

you are right about that diana

and don't let them forget

they are dumbasses at best. at worst they know what they are doing KILLING america.

[jorge0214]

chinese are NOT drillin g off the coast of florida. Even Fox has said this is a lie.

Show us where.A? Gov. Christ said it was foolish to think that such a thing was taking place. What world tdo you live in?

[dianapatriot11]

CHINA STARTS OIL DRILLING OFF FLORIDA

WHILE AMERICA TWIDDLES THUMBS, CHINESE TAP BILLIONS OF BARRELS

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By Mike Blair

While Washington dithers over exploiting oil and gas reserves off the coast of Florida, China has seized the opportunity to gobble up these deposits, which run throughout Latin America, the Caribbean and along the U.S. Gulf coast.

[dianapatriot11]

WOW do you not see the big picture. Obama is turning our Dollar to the peso with these stupid Stimulus plans. The only thing he is stimulating is his Arab brother's balls. Bow Obama to the King of Saudi. This proves not only he is NOT an American, he is an idiot. Etiquette protocol NO AMERICAN President bows to a KING.

[gismotech]

when are you people going to learn

tree huggers don't care about you they in fact want you dead. they think there are too many people...

and yet they keep getting voted into office talk about cutting your own throat. you might as well.

great depression it will be far far worse

[thesoothsayers]

Can we spin off California into its own country and let all the democrats live there?

[anon2999]

How do I increased cost of all goods and services and diminish standard of living?

[alex3914]

omg...buy gold..my god.

[BandaisuanKaraoke]

I knew our use of energy witll increase in the form of TAXES. Everything will rise! HYPERINFLATION.

[jorge0214]

What is not stated here is that this will be OFFSET by a cut in taxes on WORKING PEOPLE.

It is a great plan to switch from taking money from workers and start collecting revenue on consumption.

THIS ALSO WILL ALSO LIMIT OUR ENERGY USE,REDUCE CARBON, PROTECT THE COUNTRY FROM GLOBAL WARMING AND STOP ARAB OIL ADDICTION.

hey fox- QUIT WHINING!!!!!!

[FreedomAintFree1]

Electric bills for 100% of Americans will go up. Most people can't afford new taxes. More and more people will get foreclosed on. Less and less food will be on the table.

All this for a few more jobs, and people that will barely make 0.000001% of a difference on the economy?

Get educated. Record LOW temperatures are all over the globe, and global warming has been proven a THEORY... not fact.

[gismotech]

you are a fool they will offset nothing

carbon is a natural trace gas that trees need to live you fool.

and will not stop global warming

freaking only idiots believe crap like that.

[menana2u]

lmao! You tell them. Good info!

[gsuitter]

Oh boy!!! The government is going to fix the government created energy crisis! Can't wait to see what they come up with next. Get your wallets ready.