I think it's great that Troy is developing cutting edge body armor that enables troops to have a level of comfort in protection with claims of 97% body coverage with 95% flexibility and 23 Kg weight ballast. The big question is whether this body armor will stop high velocity rounds. Yes, it is clear the body armor stops low velocity rounds from HANDGUNS and SHOTGUNS, but those are large caliber bullets with low velocity impact and blunt penetration.
@Juggerknot79 Which brings up another question of internal organ damage. Our organs aren't quite as dense as the ballistic clay he uses to show secondary damage. The body armor the military uses; while heavy, cumbersome and mostly useless anyways, is specifically designed to stop smaller caliber, HIGH velocity ammunition coming from RIFLES. These bullets are designed to be a point penetration with maximum distribution of force once it enters the body.
@Juggerknot79 Being in the military and having ballistics training, I applaud Troy's tireless and most likely expensive research into his product. However, show me the armor stopping 7.62 ammunition from an AK-47, or even sniper ammunition from the Barret .50 caliber. THIS demonstration will knock my socks off. Insurgents aren't killing our troops with handguns. They're spraying and praying with machine guns and rifles.
@Juggerknot79 Think about it this way. The armor you have doesn't protect you from that either. But this armor might protect you slightly more in close quarters combat with a gun, and that's more than a standard military grade suit can give you, I'm sure. Just like drawing a picture, you can't try to perfect it while sketching the first step and outlines. You have to layer it, and work on it over time -- it's not going to be a one shot wonder.
What could anyone possibly gain from hating on this? who gives a flying fuck if hes eccentric? what he's trying to achieve and what he's done so far is admirable, and a hell of a lot more than some elitist internet haters.
@onotadaki How? He's surpassed many obstacles to do what he has done, and has done this for the past twenty years. You are a maniac for even thinking he is crazy.
You know, at first I thought this was a joke in terms of ballistics, but for a guy who put this together in a garage, that is astounding. This thing has a lot of potential.
@Br8ssface probably not, but to be fair, how many soldiers do you think will ever be so fucked that they end up taking 20-30 rounds of any kind? Most war fatalities from gunshot wounds are like 5 to 8 shots max, you dont see people getting robocopped often, unless they really really screwed up.
but still, I would like to see this think hit with some common military rounds.
Here's the thing though: the army is looking for an armor system that is basically like the spartans of Halo.
It can take a massive amount of damage, it can absorb the shock of high end drops (say you drop from a helicopter onto the ground and survive without a crack to your bones or a scratch on the armor).
Also they want an armor system that can improve and super secede the human capability of strength, basically, using an exoskeleton chassis to lift up VERY heavy objects.
It's impressive this man has done this on his own with a very limited budget. What concerns me is it's possibilities. So he can't secure a high-end military contract? What's stopping him from supplying a foreign country with the prototype, the patents or even being privately funded by them to develop something superior? Sure, it may appear to be a low grade prototype but this body armour still has a level of efficacy and is affordable. I find it's just unwise and arrogant to mock him just yet
@LawAbidingBird When he lifts up the armor, you can see that they neither penetrated nor dented the clay behind the vest. I had nothing to do with the production of this video, so I can't tell you why he didn't zoom in.
But the practicality of the armor. Look how exposed a large portion of the body is. Anyone can build armor that is X inches thick, use a bonding agent and it'll take a lot of hits. But it's the weight and coverage area that counts.
@darkmaster388 The entire suit isn't shown in the video. He claims that there's 97% body coverage, 95% joint flexibility & weighs less than 50 lbs.(22.7kg) Even if those claims are exaggerated, that's far more coverage than the armor US & Canadian soldiers get.
@WildBuck007 Considering he put the 1313 paneling that is used in this and his previous armors to the test by putting it over the doors of a vehicle that he was sitting in, and having someone rig an explosion larger and more shrapnel heavy than a standard IED outside of the vehicle, then blow it up with him inside, and the only thing that broke was a window because the material flexed(Energy transferral, by a little bit), I think it's safe to say it can handle the blast.
@zWolf1215 this is true xD a .50 cal can produce up to 15,000 foot pounds of force(18,000 joules). Even if you could stop the actual projectile, the amount of energy transferred into it would still cause a potentially lethal amount of damage without a ridiculous amount of shock absorption. To put that in perspective, that's like 7 tons hitting a spike a half an inch thick.
aaaa..... Dragon skin except you dont have to look like a fool and your neck is covered. who are you trying to convince here. Looks like you aint sure, also did you see the whole stand shake, that means he felt it. what you are looking for is bruising, clay does not compress well, so there might be 30K psi on the large plate with no visible marks, but did you mesure the thickness of the clay before and after? NO I guess you should not be in the armor
they take forever to shoot 2 feet just pop off the fucking rounds then look ur not ganna be able to look for a minute if it hit through in a combat situation
@ILLET101 lmAO you idiot "combat situation" its a test! this is how tests are performed, just because you are impatient and want to see a gun firing doesn't mean he should do all this just for your youtube experience. Don't be so stupid
it doesnt't matter if it isn't the best armour, it is the fact that this was made by a canadian civilian. if you gave this to the military to utilize and improve, it would be able to far surpass what is being shown in this video. it may look a little ahead of it's time, but it is an excellent idea for future armour.
@akcorndog69 Bad news there buddy...US military doesn't exactly do a lot of innovation for equipment. They set a set of guidelines (must be able to stop this, weigh this much or less, etc.) and a bunch of contractors build prototypes to secure funding, and work from there. All outsourced anymore...
This is back up in case you DO get shot. A guarantee ya won't die. It's actually kinda a slap in the face when ya do get shot, like the enemy is saying you aren't any good.
@AustinSouthall Hah, alright. Sometimes people who talk without thinking first get me worked up, but I guess it's hard to tell when someones joking and when someones serious, when it's all just text, hahah
@AustinSouthall In real life, .50 caliber rounds are intended for use against armored vehicles and tanks, not personnel on foot. The Barrett .50 Cal is incredibly expensive. They cost a lot to make, a lot to train someone to use one, a lot to manufacture their rounds, and it costs a hell of a lot to deploy a .50 unit. If any military force finds itself forced to combat enemy infantry with .50 caliber rifles, it's essentially fucked. 10,000 per rifle? 15 dollars per bullet? Months for training?
@VaultTechy The same is true for the opposing side as well, I recall troy selling these for 2,000$ each. Now that's 8,000$(not including training) less than deploying a .50 cal rifle, but that rifle can shoot multiple times...but by that point the whole war consists of "who has enough money for a battle?". The .50 cal operator would have to destroy 5 or more suit operators in order to incur the same economic burden it has paid to even field the unit.
@L0rdBalmung1 Economically, your statement is very true, I agree with almost every point you've brought up. But tactically? A military that has found all of it's ground troops except snipers rendered useless is pretty well screwed. These troops could pull up pretty much anywhere in a Humvee, get out, and have zero infantry resistance, as long as they stayed indoors or behind reasonable cover, they could walk right in.
@VaultTechy lolol now that would just suck for them XD I would walk right through the DMZ and personally slap the shit out of Kim jong il.
One thing i forgot is that you have to take into consideration artillery and air strikes, although that can be a very limited window due to economic/geographic reasons.
@L0rdBalmung1 there is always an ongoing fight between weapons and arms development. But it all comes down to one thing. Whos faster? right now it looks like Armour is taking the lead
@TheRickIRL If it can outperform the IOTV and level IV testing I will be floored. The big problem with big-bore rounds at that point becomes inertia -- lot of chance of broken bones and other nasty damage through hydrostatic shock. The amount of energy contained in those large rounds is simply staggering.
However, I suspect it won't pass it.
I was going to suggest you go look up a video about a level IV plate from Bulletproofme being shot at, but looks like it's been removed.
@TheRickIRL So what if it's lighter than a current Interceptor IOTV? If it can't stop the same threats that the Interceptor can, upgrading it to be able will make it heavier *and* bulkier and therefore less attractive than the current armor. Your average primary ceramic level IV plate is about 6-8 pounds -- and there's a front, back, and side plates. So if they have to wear plates in just the vest region that's another 30 pounds or so, plus the bulk.
@TheRickIRL Bulk and flexibility. If the suit's too bulky and limits the wearer's mobility, it's not good. Body armor isn't a solution to getting shot, it's there in case you DO get shot. The #1 goal in a firefight is to seek cover and avoid getting shot in the first place. Body armor protects you just in case you do get shot.
Wouldn't this suit save lives??? Why the fuck arn't they using anything or something like it? I think We are on the cuff, although tbh to actually believe it works u need to put a person in the armor.
And if none of the armor protects vs large rifle rounds then it is less then useless, because insurgents are not firing 9mm / .308 or 12 gauge rounds.
The Plate in a IBA CAN take 3 7.62x45mm rounds. I have the cracked plate to prove it. And there are plenty of add on armor to put on them. (I highly sugjest the neck/groin guards)
That and it looks like this would be almost improsible to aim.
If he would make a light vest version you could put a plate into he might have a good product.
@WCM3201983 and also they're not shooting there round at almost point blank range. As you can see the putty never got dented, this IS a good product. Fact.
@AGreenShow Please do some research on ballistic testing. So what if the putty doesn't get dented? He doesn't test it against any real threats, such as rifle rounds. No level III or IV testing is done. I'd rather wear level IV armor which shows minor backface deformation rather than some level IIIA armor that gives no deformation. The amount of threats it can stop is worth the bruise you will take.
@refutonefandus bullshit no real tests 12 gauge round to the chest at less than 6 feet and it dosent do shit! I'm pretty sure it can stop a rifle round unless they using some anti tank shit. You have no clue what your talking about. that 12 gauge woulda left a hole the sized of his head in an unarmored or even kevlar but it didnt do jack to that armor. It might have knocked him on his ass but it wouldnt have killed him
You're clearly either a very obvious troll or a complete idiot. I'll assume the latter, based upon your nick.
"Pretty sure" and "proven" that it can stop a rifle round is a big gap. It's the big difference between a solid steel plate used in level III armor and kevlar/aramid fibers in a level IIIA vest. And like I said, you don't even need anti-materiel rounds to penetrate body armor.
@TheGamerguy35 Also, 12ga buckshot fires 9 pellets that contain the energy approximate to a .38 Spl each. .38Spl is stopped by level IIA armor IIRC, so level IIIA armor can stop 12ga buckshot, but NOT a slug -- slug will go straight through it.
Also, "knocked him on his ass"? Let me introduce you to the conservation of momentum. If he would have been knocked down due to the impact, so would've the shooter.
Also, not knowing anything? I own ballistic armor. I've shot ballistic armor.
And if none of the armor protects vs large rifle rounds then it is less then useless, because insurgents are not firing 9mm / .308 or 12 gauge rounds.
The Plate in a IBA CAN take 3 7.62x45mm rounds. I have the cracked plate to prove it. And there are plenty of add on armor to put on them. (I highly sugjest the neck/groin guards)
Ya I have noticed that he has, as of yet not tested it with rifle rounds. And Dragon Skin Was pretty crappy, fell apart in heat/cold/water and had bad protection from angle.
@HX711 Sorry I can't...They were on Troy's youtube site, and they were removed. He had fire paste that could withstand a propane torch for 10 minutes, ballistic pads that could withstand an RPG impact-while he sat on the other side of them during the test and didn't get hurt, as well as 7 or 8 AP .308 rounds at 5 feet, and the vest test I mentioned in the previous comment. I wish they were available. If you dig around a bit you might be able to find them.
@BeanerMan3k We are not arguing the same point. So what if it covers 97% of the body? If it can't stop serious rifle threats it's completely worthless. I'd rather have a level IV vest including E/SAPI plates than full-body level IIIA armor.
Lol, that guy may be a lunatic and a fruit, but you have to admit his inventions are insane, I mean he's a fucking genius. What i dont understand, however, is how did he manage to get all the materials he needed for his suit(kevlar, bulletproof materials) with all the fascist laws in Canada that prohibit the acquisition of body armours and bulletproof vests. Anyone knows?
Cuervo is kinda right if the trojan s-type was that great of a improvement on ballistic vests it should have been picked up by now. Of course it did take nearly a decade for kevlar to be widely accepted and i'm sure no cop would walk around in this. But in blurns defense i have yet to see a video response or even link to a video,
I went to his Trojan website and sorry, but this isn't really impressive at all and neither is the ballistic door padding that barely stopped a 50mm round even with buffers to slow it down. All he did was make something that has already been out in the field for years that can do the same or a better job than his can. There are already civilian and military vests that can withstand multiple round and shotgun blasts before needing to be replaced. I doubt this would withstand N.I.J. testing.
@Blurns Are you asking for the link of Troys vids from his website, or to vests that are already out there that can basically do the same thing as his does?
@CuervoBlack06 The vests. I can't find any good videos where they show the clay in such a good condition. If you could link me a few, I'd appreciate it.
@Blurns Because most of the time they don't need ballistic Clay or Gel. Usually they will do it out in the open at the range by official testers, and as long as the rounds don't pierce out the back of the plates or soft armor then it's effective. N.I.J approved vests/plates can already stop these rounds he's using. Check the website Defendxarmor as an example. They have vids of it being shot several times by Nato rounds and a 30.06.
@CuervoBlack06 "as long as the rounds don't pierce out the back of the plates or soft armor then it's effective"
You don't understand. Not only has his armor stopped all those rounds, from piercing, they haven't even remotely dented the back of the armor. That's 0 back-face deformation, with a very close grouping & close range.
Not impressed yet? The full suit of armor weighs approximately 40 pounds & estimates would cost $2000 per full suit of armor to manufacture.
@Blurns Sorry but this still hasn't proved anything special about this suit. Like I said all he did was make a useless suit out of something that has already been made. I can get the same out of a N.I.J level IIIA ballistic vest that can stop the same type of ammunition cold for only $500-$900 that I can pop on in under 1min. All I would have to do is just replace the plates. Where are the slots/pouches for the Magazines, Sidearm, etc. He made this more for aesthetics than for durability.
@CuervoBlack06 modern body armor generally only covers the chest/abdomen area. This suit covers 97% of your body, so you are essentially invincible. Plus modern body armors can still cause severe internal damage and even the ceramic plates our military uses can only stop a few rounds. Troys armor didn't even dent the clay, meaning the wearer wouldnt feel the impact, and took several hits within a tight grouping,. To top it off, it doesnt weigh significantly more than the armor that we use
@BeanerMan3k So what if modern armor only covers that? There are ballistic side panels, shoulder panels, groin protectors, neck protectors, even armored bracers and gauntlets that are designed for ballistic protection. All his armor was tested against light ammunition. No rifle rounds, not even something like like 5.56 M193 or SS109, or even something heavier like 7.62x39 M39 or 7.62x51 FMJ, let alone the .30-06 Black Tip required for level IV armor.
@refutonefandus i'm not sure what you trying to argue; i think we are arguing the same point. I am saying that the armor our military uses only covers the chest/abdomen area, so he can still get shot anywhere else, which is why Troy's armor is better
The armor is also knife-proof, bludgeon proof, and can withstand to small amounts of explosives. Not only does this armor stop a .357 round, it also stops shots from the elephant-gun. This armor is also very lightweight and allows for near full mobility.
@Blurns i agree. dragon skin can only take a few hits and not more than one in the same spot. it's a great system, but troys is reinventing the hover board on this one. the big thing is the shock absorbing foam so if you get hit it's like your buddy punching you in the chest. where normally it'd be like mike tyson. also even after the foam is busted on the first shot. the plating can still stop 2 maybe 3 shots than you have a few layer of kevlar and thats assuming you hit in the same place. :)
@the26thhour Except for the fact that 'Dragon Skin' was crappy. If a bullet hit it at certain angles the bullets will slide between the discs, rendering it useless. Not to mention the number of them that needed to be recalled simply for badly made discs.
NOWAY!!...at the begining i not really confidence to this armor..the last minute he show it...it suprise me man....soon the this guy will meet the president..
@sendapez WHAT A TROLL -- Troy uploaded a video to his official channel youtube.com/user/troyhurtubise - he was saying in a video "I'm 47 now" 1963 - 2010 = 47 - nice troll editing the Wikipedia value - Get lost dude...find a life
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This idiot is wearing a crash-helmet with glitter and aluminum foil on it. Check our Raytheon for real exoskeletons!!
verysmartmart 10 hours ago
I think it's great that Troy is developing cutting edge body armor that enables troops to have a level of comfort in protection with claims of 97% body coverage with 95% flexibility and 23 Kg weight ballast. The big question is whether this body armor will stop high velocity rounds. Yes, it is clear the body armor stops low velocity rounds from HANDGUNS and SHOTGUNS, but those are large caliber bullets with low velocity impact and blunt penetration.
Juggerknot79 5 days ago
@Juggerknot79 Which brings up another question of internal organ damage. Our organs aren't quite as dense as the ballistic clay he uses to show secondary damage. The body armor the military uses; while heavy, cumbersome and mostly useless anyways, is specifically designed to stop smaller caliber, HIGH velocity ammunition coming from RIFLES. These bullets are designed to be a point penetration with maximum distribution of force once it enters the body.
Juggerknot79 5 days ago
@Juggerknot79 Being in the military and having ballistics training, I applaud Troy's tireless and most likely expensive research into his product. However, show me the armor stopping 7.62 ammunition from an AK-47, or even sniper ammunition from the Barret .50 caliber. THIS demonstration will knock my socks off. Insurgents aren't killing our troops with handguns. They're spraying and praying with machine guns and rifles.
Juggerknot79 5 days ago
@Juggerknot79 Think about it this way. The armor you have doesn't protect you from that either. But this armor might protect you slightly more in close quarters combat with a gun, and that's more than a standard military grade suit can give you, I'm sure. Just like drawing a picture, you can't try to perfect it while sketching the first step and outlines. You have to layer it, and work on it over time -- it's not going to be a one shot wonder.
GTFOVevo 1 day ago
prove the bullets went through you fucking hick.
yappythefrog 2 weeks ago
One day this kind of armor will be reality. Maybe not now, but its a step in the right direction
DubstepCoder 2 weeks ago
What could anyone possibly gain from hating on this? who gives a flying fuck if hes eccentric? what he's trying to achieve and what he's done so far is admirable, and a hell of a lot more than some elitist internet haters.
KZipKing 1 month ago 4
this is amazing. i bet kevlar can't beat this, this is truly amazing!
Fettman501 1 month ago
This guy displays a disturbing array of mental disorders. Just listen to his wording, he's almost manic.
onotadaki 1 month ago
@onotadaki How? He's surpassed many obstacles to do what he has done, and has done this for the past twenty years. You are a maniac for even thinking he is crazy.
Rulictar 1 month ago
You know, at first I thought this was a joke in terms of ballistics, but for a guy who put this together in a garage, that is astounding. This thing has a lot of potential.
damncritics 2 months ago
Not to nitpick but...I understand u want a good group but you're 3 feet from the target. When he says fire....what the fuck are u waiting for?
Pheonix2022 2 months ago
Nice!!!
M3shr1983 2 months ago
BUT......WILL IT BLEND??????
F35JSF1 2 months ago
Epic.
gpgpgp13322 3 months ago
Now for our Next TEST!!!: Land Mines!!
Spoonypictures 3 months ago
please PLEASE test this with 5.56,7.62x39 and .308 ball we wanna see how it stands up to common military ammo
Recon985 3 months ago
But will it blend?
Aljedubru 3 months ago
question is can it take a nuke?
Whiskxy 3 months ago
Wow.. that's rly cool.
If I'm a millionaire one day, I'm gonna buy me one of those.
MisterCovek 3 months ago 3
@MisterCovek lol same here, but it only costs $2,000! the next time you decide to get a new car, dont. Intead, save up $2,000 to buy one of these!
ssths 3 months ago
@ssths I would, but I doubt that he has that for mass production.
And I'm not in the USA either.
MisterCovek 3 months ago
however, for police, this would be good, plus a plate carrier or make some plate drop in to stop rifle rounds.
fuckcomments 4 months ago
has to stop rifle rounds efficiently.
fuckcomments 4 months ago
i bet it wont take 20-30 rounds of 7.62 nato or 30-06 whatever. or 7.62x39 for long.
Br8ssface 4 months ago
@Br8ssface probably not, but to be fair, how many soldiers do you think will ever be so fucked that they end up taking 20-30 rounds of any kind? Most war fatalities from gunshot wounds are like 5 to 8 shots max, you dont see people getting robocopped often, unless they really really screwed up.
but still, I would like to see this think hit with some common military rounds.
ssths 3 months ago
@ssths
LOL "robocopped"...love the reference :)
nabasta 2 months ago
i think the man has a solid foundation im designing a similar suit and the bullets did not penetrate
TheS128 5 months ago
if you were wearing one of those, a zombie apocalypse would be a minor inconvenience, a hilarious, entertaining, minor inconvenience...
Murderface357 5 months ago
like i said before we are the world!!!
VEGABRICCS 5 months ago
Here's the thing though: the army is looking for an armor system that is basically like the spartans of Halo.
It can take a massive amount of damage, it can absorb the shock of high end drops (say you drop from a helicopter onto the ground and survive without a crack to your bones or a scratch on the armor).
Also they want an armor system that can improve and super secede the human capability of strength, basically, using an exoskeleton chassis to lift up VERY heavy objects.
RecoverRedeem 5 months ago
DO NOT WEAR HEADPHONES AND PUT THE VOLUME ALL THE WAY.
you will regret it...
but give it a try for fun! :DD
RecoverRedeem 5 months ago
It's impressive this man has done this on his own with a very limited budget. What concerns me is it's possibilities. So he can't secure a high-end military contract? What's stopping him from supplying a foreign country with the prototype, the patents or even being privately funded by them to develop something superior? Sure, it may appear to be a low grade prototype but this body armour still has a level of efficacy and is affordable. I find it's just unwise and arrogant to mock him just yet
navbuoy 5 months ago
This is literally a "God" suit. Good job Troy.
XtremeConditioning 5 months ago
Why is the Camera so far away? I cant see if the bullets went through....
LawAbidingBird 5 months ago 2
@LawAbidingBird When he lifts up the armor, you can see that they neither penetrated nor dented the clay behind the vest. I had nothing to do with the production of this video, so I can't tell you why he didn't zoom in.
Blurns 5 months ago 2
@Blurns
But the practicality of the armor. Look how exposed a large portion of the body is. Anyone can build armor that is X inches thick, use a bonding agent and it'll take a lot of hits. But it's the weight and coverage area that counts.
darkmaster388 3 months ago
@darkmaster388 The entire suit isn't shown in the video. He claims that there's 97% body coverage, 95% joint flexibility & weighs less than 50 lbs.(22.7kg) Even if those claims are exaggerated, that's far more coverage than the armor US & Canadian soldiers get.
Blurns 3 months ago 10
Haha to think i was afraid of an alien invasion
mrslapbob 5 months ago
@mrslapbob It's not like advanced space aliens would be using bullets. If aliens did invade, they'd be armed with far more advanced personal weapons.
Blurns 5 months ago 5
@Blurns actually that depends on where the aliens are from and oh my god I can't believe I started arguing over this.
SaneReviews 1 week ago
No offense. But the guys/gals shooting at soldiers are not using standard issue light arms.
I think its reasonable in a urban 1st world setting mayhap. However not in a shoot out with higher caliber or shrapnel.
WildBuck007 6 months ago
@WildBuck007 Considering he put the 1313 paneling that is used in this and his previous armors to the test by putting it over the doors of a vehicle that he was sitting in, and having someone rig an explosion larger and more shrapnel heavy than a standard IED outside of the vehicle, then blow it up with him inside, and the only thing that broke was a window because the material flexed(Energy transferral, by a little bit), I think it's safe to say it can handle the blast.
vharshyde 5 months ago
Come to the table with true ballistic performance in a laboratory setting. I doubt this suit can stop a .50 cal round.
cgrau100 6 months ago
@cgrau100 no body armor can stop that, and a .50 cal round is not very common to come by. If the armor can stop multiple 7.62x33 I say use it.
zWolf1215 6 months ago
@zWolf1215 this is true xD a .50 cal can produce up to 15,000 foot pounds of force(18,000 joules). Even if you could stop the actual projectile, the amount of energy transferred into it would still cause a potentially lethal amount of damage without a ridiculous amount of shock absorption. To put that in perspective, that's like 7 tons hitting a spike a half an inch thick.
rich1051414 3 months ago
I really hope this guy gets a military contract. wish him the best. lord knows he's been working hard for it.
Military better snatch him up before the "bad guys" do.
PSNOrin 6 months ago
The real question is, will it blend? :)
ManintheArmor 6 months ago
respect for the guy really
sorafinalform19 6 months ago
Troy Hurtubise = Master chief
TubularROMEO 6 months ago
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well...
everyones got to start somewhere, right?
SSTGproductions 7 months ago
shoot thru the helmet ... thats only for aesthetics
Cobac 7 months ago
aaaa..... Dragon skin except you dont have to look like a fool and your neck is covered. who are you trying to convince here. Looks like you aint sure, also did you see the whole stand shake, that means he felt it. what you are looking for is bruising, clay does not compress well, so there might be 30K psi on the large plate with no visible marks, but did you mesure the thickness of the clay before and after? NO I guess you should not be in the armor
jairoblaster 7 months ago
I'm not worried
I'm not worried
I'm worried
MajorCox777 7 months ago
wow i would go to war so fast if we got to wear those id be more confident to go whip some ass lol
keaton7667 7 months ago
they take forever to shoot 2 feet just pop off the fucking rounds then look ur not ganna be able to look for a minute if it hit through in a combat situation
ILLET101 7 months ago
@ILLET101 lmAO you idiot "combat situation" its a test! this is how tests are performed, just because you are impatient and want to see a gun firing doesn't mean he should do all this just for your youtube experience. Don't be so stupid
TheLydianRocks 7 months ago
Canada... even farther from getting laid
cuntquistador32 7 months ago
takes the guy 10 seconds to aim from 3 feet away...
krypekeeper 8 months ago
Hey Blurns can the suit stop a rifle round?
shadowwarrior314 8 months ago
GO CANADIAN INVENTORS!
leonharts 8 months ago
it doesnt't matter if it isn't the best armour, it is the fact that this was made by a canadian civilian. if you gave this to the military to utilize and improve, it would be able to far surpass what is being shown in this video. it may look a little ahead of it's time, but it is an excellent idea for future armour.
akcorndog69 8 months ago
@akcorndog69 Bad news there buddy...US military doesn't exactly do a lot of innovation for equipment. They set a set of guidelines (must be able to stop this, weigh this much or less, etc.) and a bunch of contractors build prototypes to secure funding, and work from there. All outsourced anymore...
refutonefandus 8 months ago
This is back up in case you DO get shot. A guarantee ya won't die. It's actually kinda a slap in the face when ya do get shot, like the enemy is saying you aren't any good.
marineooo5 8 months ago
holly shit....fuck these haters and their moronic idealology this is awesome
RougeSanta 8 months ago 21
@RougeSanta fuckin oath man
Murderface357 5 months ago
@AustinSouthall Hah, alright. Sometimes people who talk without thinking first get me worked up, but I guess it's hard to tell when someones joking and when someones serious, when it's all just text, hahah
VaultTechy 8 months ago
@AustinSouthall In real life, .50 caliber rounds are intended for use against armored vehicles and tanks, not personnel on foot. The Barrett .50 Cal is incredibly expensive. They cost a lot to make, a lot to train someone to use one, a lot to manufacture their rounds, and it costs a hell of a lot to deploy a .50 unit. If any military force finds itself forced to combat enemy infantry with .50 caliber rifles, it's essentially fucked. 10,000 per rifle? 15 dollars per bullet? Months for training?
VaultTechy 8 months ago
@VaultTechy The same is true for the opposing side as well, I recall troy selling these for 2,000$ each. Now that's 8,000$(not including training) less than deploying a .50 cal rifle, but that rifle can shoot multiple times...but by that point the whole war consists of "who has enough money for a battle?". The .50 cal operator would have to destroy 5 or more suit operators in order to incur the same economic burden it has paid to even field the unit.
L0rdBalmung1 7 months ago
@L0rdBalmung1 Economically, your statement is very true, I agree with almost every point you've brought up. But tactically? A military that has found all of it's ground troops except snipers rendered useless is pretty well screwed. These troops could pull up pretty much anywhere in a Humvee, get out, and have zero infantry resistance, as long as they stayed indoors or behind reasonable cover, they could walk right in.
VaultTechy 6 months ago
@VaultTechy lolol now that would just suck for them XD I would walk right through the DMZ and personally slap the shit out of Kim jong il.
One thing i forgot is that you have to take into consideration artillery and air strikes, although that can be a very limited window due to economic/geographic reasons.
L0rdBalmung1 6 months ago
@L0rdBalmung1 Indeed, if your best bet is airstrikes and .50 cal teams, you... don't really have a best bet anymore, it's over before it's started.
VaultTechy 6 months ago
@VaultTechy And thats the point when people start to use shit like railguns, lasers etc.
But thats only if your technology is advanced enough, If your not on the edge...I have bad news for you lol
L0rdBalmung1 6 months ago
@L0rdBalmung1 there is always an ongoing fight between weapons and arms development. But it all comes down to one thing. Whos faster? right now it looks like Armour is taking the lead
chesterbesterfeild 6 months ago
@TheRickIRL If it can outperform the IOTV and level IV testing I will be floored. The big problem with big-bore rounds at that point becomes inertia -- lot of chance of broken bones and other nasty damage through hydrostatic shock. The amount of energy contained in those large rounds is simply staggering.
However, I suspect it won't pass it.
I was going to suggest you go look up a video about a level IV plate from Bulletproofme being shot at, but looks like it's been removed.
refutonefandus 8 months ago
@TheRickIRL So what if it's lighter than a current Interceptor IOTV? If it can't stop the same threats that the Interceptor can, upgrading it to be able will make it heavier *and* bulkier and therefore less attractive than the current armor. Your average primary ceramic level IV plate is about 6-8 pounds -- and there's a front, back, and side plates. So if they have to wear plates in just the vest region that's another 30 pounds or so, plus the bulk.
refutonefandus 8 months ago
@TheRickIRL Bulk and flexibility. If the suit's too bulky and limits the wearer's mobility, it's not good. Body armor isn't a solution to getting shot, it's there in case you DO get shot. The #1 goal in a firefight is to seek cover and avoid getting shot in the first place. Body armor protects you just in case you do get shot.
refutonefandus 8 months ago
I want one now.
youknownoyuno 9 months ago
Learn to spell
xALEXx49 9 months ago
troy is a ginues.
russiana2m 9 months ago
search up "troy hurtubise channel" and click the second image for his recent videos
Varencilator 9 months ago
Where exactly can I buy this suit?
ADADIZZLE 11 months ago
Wouldn't this suit save lives??? Why the fuck arn't they using anything or something like it? I think We are on the cuff, although tbh to actually believe it works u need to put a person in the armor.
SharnOfTheDEAD 11 months ago
nothing more than a modified bullet vest with some gel slathered on it
killerkip1 11 months ago
@killerkip1 define modified??? how can you modify a substance which is already modified to the max? eh?
AGreenShow 11 months ago
And if none of the armor protects vs large rifle rounds then it is less then useless, because insurgents are not firing 9mm / .308 or 12 gauge rounds.
The Plate in a IBA CAN take 3 7.62x45mm rounds. I have the cracked plate to prove it. And there are plenty of add on armor to put on them. (I highly sugjest the neck/groin guards)
That and it looks like this would be almost improsible to aim.
If he would make a light vest version you could put a plate into he might have a good product.
WCM3201983 11 months ago
@WCM3201983 and also they're not shooting there round at almost point blank range. As you can see the putty never got dented, this IS a good product. Fact.
AGreenShow 11 months ago
@AGreenShow Please do some research on ballistic testing. So what if the putty doesn't get dented? He doesn't test it against any real threats, such as rifle rounds. No level III or IV testing is done. I'd rather wear level IV armor which shows minor backface deformation rather than some level IIIA armor that gives no deformation. The amount of threats it can stop is worth the bruise you will take.
refutonefandus 11 months ago
@refutonefandus bullshit no real tests 12 gauge round to the chest at less than 6 feet and it dosent do shit! I'm pretty sure it can stop a rifle round unless they using some anti tank shit. You have no clue what your talking about. that 12 gauge woulda left a hole the sized of his head in an unarmored or even kevlar but it didnt do jack to that armor. It might have knocked him on his ass but it wouldnt have killed him
TheGamerguy35 8 months ago
@TheGamerguy35
*sigh*
You're clearly either a very obvious troll or a complete idiot. I'll assume the latter, based upon your nick.
"Pretty sure" and "proven" that it can stop a rifle round is a big gap. It's the big difference between a solid steel plate used in level III armor and kevlar/aramid fibers in a level IIIA vest. And like I said, you don't even need anti-materiel rounds to penetrate body armor.
refutonefandus 8 months ago
@TheGamerguy35 Also, 12ga buckshot fires 9 pellets that contain the energy approximate to a .38 Spl each. .38Spl is stopped by level IIA armor IIRC, so level IIIA armor can stop 12ga buckshot, but NOT a slug -- slug will go straight through it.
Also, "knocked him on his ass"? Let me introduce you to the conservation of momentum. If he would have been knocked down due to the impact, so would've the shooter.
Also, not knowing anything? I own ballistic armor. I've shot ballistic armor.
refutonefandus 8 months ago
@refutonefandus Well, the suit was tested for higher calibers, video just wasn't taken as far as I know. Plus, this is at very close range, as well.
100Ultimate 7 months ago
@100Ultimate RE YOU TROY HEREBUISE
kazakhmafia1 7 months ago
@kazakhmafia1 Wha?
100Ultimate 7 months ago
And if none of the armor protects vs large rifle rounds then it is less then useless, because insurgents are not firing 9mm / .308 or 12 gauge rounds.
The Plate in a IBA CAN take 3 7.62x45mm rounds. I have the cracked plate to prove it. And there are plenty of add on armor to put on them. (I highly sugjest the neck/groin guards)
WCM3201983 11 months ago
Ya I have noticed that he has, as of yet not tested it with rifle rounds. And Dragon Skin Was pretty crappy, fell apart in heat/cold/water and had bad protection from angle.
WCM3201983 11 months ago
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HX711 11 months ago
There were videos of another vest of his that was taking 5 nato AP .308 rounds at 5 feet in a line then 2 .12ga sabots on top of those.
killtroy811 11 months ago
@killtroy811
Could you please link it? I'd like to see it. :)
HX711 11 months ago
@HX711 Sorry I can't...They were on Troy's youtube site, and they were removed. He had fire paste that could withstand a propane torch for 10 minutes, ballistic pads that could withstand an RPG impact-while he sat on the other side of them during the test and didn't get hurt, as well as 7 or 8 AP .308 rounds at 5 feet, and the vest test I mentioned in the previous comment. I wish they were available. If you dig around a bit you might be able to find them.
killtroy811 11 months ago
@BeanerMan3k We are not arguing the same point. So what if it covers 97% of the body? If it can't stop serious rifle threats it's completely worthless. I'd rather have a level IV vest including E/SAPI plates than full-body level IIIA armor.
refutonefandus 11 months ago
Lol, that guy may be a lunatic and a fruit, but you have to admit his inventions are insane, I mean he's a fucking genius. What i dont understand, however, is how did he manage to get all the materials he needed for his suit(kevlar, bulletproof materials) with all the fascist laws in Canada that prohibit the acquisition of body armours and bulletproof vests. Anyone knows?
FUNNzilla 11 months ago
Dragon armor totally makes this suit look like a halloween costume
xdarkkidx 11 months ago
@xdarkkidx dragon armour was a joke, if you shot that piece of shit from certain angles it will fuck up
cyber8000 11 months ago
wtf does it really take someone 10 seconds to shoot a fucking pistol at point blank?
1:30
xdarkkidx 11 months ago
@xdarkkidx the guy wanted some good measurments for the test
pomosav 11 months ago
@ TOGTowle Because no one is willing to shoot him idiot :/
xxadamxxsmithxx 11 months ago
Cuervo is kinda right if the trojan s-type was that great of a improvement on ballistic vests it should have been picked up by now. Of course it did take nearly a decade for kevlar to be widely accepted and i'm sure no cop would walk around in this. But in blurns defense i have yet to see a video response or even link to a video,
wardoggwyllgi 1 year ago
I went to his Trojan website and sorry, but this isn't really impressive at all and neither is the ballistic door padding that barely stopped a 50mm round even with buffers to slow it down. All he did was make something that has already been out in the field for years that can do the same or a better job than his can. There are already civilian and military vests that can withstand multiple round and shotgun blasts before needing to be replaced. I doubt this would withstand N.I.J. testing.
CuervoBlack06 1 year ago
@CuervoBlack06 But do you ever see what the ballistic clay looks like underneath? I'd like to see a video, if you can send me a link of one.
Blurns 1 year ago
@Blurns Are you asking for the link of Troys vids from his website, or to vests that are already out there that can basically do the same thing as his does?
CuervoBlack06 1 year ago
@CuervoBlack06 The vests. I can't find any good videos where they show the clay in such a good condition. If you could link me a few, I'd appreciate it.
Blurns 1 year ago
@Blurns Because most of the time they don't need ballistic Clay or Gel. Usually they will do it out in the open at the range by official testers, and as long as the rounds don't pierce out the back of the plates or soft armor then it's effective. N.I.J approved vests/plates can already stop these rounds he's using. Check the website Defendxarmor as an example. They have vids of it being shot several times by Nato rounds and a 30.06.
CuervoBlack06 1 year ago 4
@CuervoBlack06 "as long as the rounds don't pierce out the back of the plates or soft armor then it's effective"
You don't understand. Not only has his armor stopped all those rounds, from piercing, they haven't even remotely dented the back of the armor. That's 0 back-face deformation, with a very close grouping & close range.
Not impressed yet? The full suit of armor weighs approximately 40 pounds & estimates would cost $2000 per full suit of armor to manufacture.
Blurns 1 year ago
@Blurns Sorry but this still hasn't proved anything special about this suit. Like I said all he did was make a useless suit out of something that has already been made. I can get the same out of a N.I.J level IIIA ballistic vest that can stop the same type of ammunition cold for only $500-$900 that I can pop on in under 1min. All I would have to do is just replace the plates. Where are the slots/pouches for the Magazines, Sidearm, etc. He made this more for aesthetics than for durability.
CuervoBlack06 1 year ago 2
@CuervoBlack06 I'm sick of you ignorant bullshit.
Blurns 1 year ago
@CuervoBlack06 modern body armor generally only covers the chest/abdomen area. This suit covers 97% of your body, so you are essentially invincible. Plus modern body armors can still cause severe internal damage and even the ceramic plates our military uses can only stop a few rounds. Troys armor didn't even dent the clay, meaning the wearer wouldnt feel the impact, and took several hits within a tight grouping,. To top it off, it doesnt weigh significantly more than the armor that we use
BeanerMan3k 1 year ago
@BeanerMan3k So what if modern armor only covers that? There are ballistic side panels, shoulder panels, groin protectors, neck protectors, even armored bracers and gauntlets that are designed for ballistic protection. All his armor was tested against light ammunition. No rifle rounds, not even something like like 5.56 M193 or SS109, or even something heavier like 7.62x39 M39 or 7.62x51 FMJ, let alone the .30-06 Black Tip required for level IV armor.
refutonefandus 11 months ago
@refutonefandus i'm not sure what you trying to argue; i think we are arguing the same point. I am saying that the armor our military uses only covers the chest/abdomen area, so he can still get shot anywhere else, which is why Troy's armor is better
BeanerMan3k 11 months ago
@CuervoBlack06
The armor is also knife-proof, bludgeon proof, and can withstand to small amounts of explosives. Not only does this armor stop a .357 round, it also stops shots from the elephant-gun. This armor is also very lightweight and allows for near full mobility.
halo10001 7 months ago
@CuervoBlack06 And there you go he has no plates to replace
DavidToddSchiesler 6 months ago
If he so confident of his vest, why don't he wear it and demonstrate it himself? Don't use a dummy . Seems another one of those exaggerated claims.
TOGTowle 1 year ago
@Blurns i agree. dragon skin can only take a few hits and not more than one in the same spot. it's a great system, but troys is reinventing the hover board on this one. the big thing is the shock absorbing foam so if you get hit it's like your buddy punching you in the chest. where normally it'd be like mike tyson. also even after the foam is busted on the first shot. the plating can still stop 2 maybe 3 shots than you have a few layer of kevlar and thats assuming you hit in the same place. :)
kingarthuriii 1 year ago
@Blurns - thank you 8)
the26thhour 1 year ago
"...no other armour in the world that can do it..."
two words - Dragon Skin
the26thhour 1 year ago
@the26thhour Except for the fact that 'Dragon Skin' was crappy. If a bullet hit it at certain angles the bullets will slide between the discs, rendering it useless. Not to mention the number of them that needed to be recalled simply for badly made discs.
Blurns 1 year ago
@the26thhour i love it wish i had one for my self
wildarms64 1 year ago
@wildarms64 - hey I'm right behind u there!
the26thhour 1 year ago
NOWAY!!...at the begining i not really confidence to this armor..the last minute he show it...it suprise me man....soon the this guy will meet the president..
Shark8er 1 year ago
holy shit 0.0
Ghostxx10 1 year ago
where the hell does he get the funding for all of this 0_o
ddog5292 1 year ago 2
'ell that's kinda impossible. Where all impact force goes?
PrismaCry 1 year ago
@PrismaCry troy mentioned "vents" on the sides. i think you see it when the 357 hits and the dust puffs out the vest.
ustink0815 1 year ago
okay for it be useful to soldier, It needs to stop armor piercing 308 or 7.62x51.
marktse 1 year ago
the army should just buy the tec and do something with it
lokallize 1 year ago
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YahwehRaptor 1 year ago
@YahwehRaptor Long live.. but too bad he died testing this suit from an explosion
sendapez 1 year ago
The fuck, read his page on youtube, he's got some awesome inventions, I didn't believe it till I saw a video
crusader199 1 year ago
Been a while since we've last heard from Troy. I wonder what he's working on now?
ManintheArmor 1 year ago
@ManintheArmor I sure wish I knew. :(
Blurns 1 year ago
@ManintheArmor He has a new youtube account in which he burns a quran, a bible, and the hindu book (not joking)
TaylorViagra 1 year ago
@ManintheArmor Its been a while cuz he died last year testing this suit against an explosion
sendapez 1 year ago
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YahwehRaptor 1 year ago
YahwehRaptor 1 year ago
@sendapez HE'S NOT DEAD! D:
HE'S 100% ALIVE! :D
glitteraddict44 1 year ago
@glitteraddict44 please tell me where.
kingarthuriii 1 year ago
@kingarthuriii idk. somewhere in Canada. working on various projects.hes on faceboook
glitteraddict44 1 year ago
and people thought it couldnt stop any thing
personmabob 1 year ago
@personmabob What do you mean? Only the plastic outer-part fell off, while the clay was clearly unscathed.
Blurns 1 year ago