I feel compeled to say this, I'm not very good at this game. I can almost never get past the normal difficulty, but goddamnit do I love this game! Please, when it comes time to be online lets be a nice and friendly community
Think people forget the very first Kingdom on Fire was a RTS/RPG on the PC to begin with, shame because I think they lost sight of that on Circle of Doom =/
Judging by the pictures at 1:17 and 1:18 Geralds 150 year old son(lol) Glenn will come up against Reigner. Like father like son eh?. I wondar if Ellen's still alive, I think she is.
@luukluuk34 Thats wrong because Reignier was tied to the Ancient Heart and when it got destroyed, he SLOWLY became human again, but he then destroyed Encablossa's body and was sucked into the Dark Dimension. He then underwent a mutation and reamerged 150 years later.
@luukluuk34 no if u play circle of doom and do regneirs story quest at the end he returns to the age of light to bring upon the age of darkness he says something about waiting 40 years so this could be 40 years after i dont know just a statement it makes sence tho
But will you have to pay for the mmo on the xbox 360 that's what i'm asking. Since I already pay for live as well as the internet. I don't want to have to pay a fee to play KUF2 online.
omg omg omg!! Regnier looks so awesome!! he's my favorite character! i wonder how he became immortal after circle of doom? oh well, the game is going to be so fucking cool! and remember people, "patience is a virtue".
Like I said earlier, they wont only have a online play idiot. They'll have offline campaigns as well as online play. If they don't have offline campaigns for all of the chracters, then they're shitting on the game like they did cod.
Just checked the 360 version will have single player campaigns and well as online play like the other two. But you might have to pay to play it online on the 360, and the computer is going to be straight up mmo. Like i said if they don't include single player campaigns that would crap on alot other people including myself. So many people enjoy the single player campaings so i'm pretty sure they'll put them in as well.
i heard that the game will come late in 2010 am not sure tho and it is said there is a chance of it becoming f2p (free2play) on the pc version but am 100% sure it will be in 2010 that what the developers said. the game is totaly awsome and i loved the new look of regnier :D you guys difinitly need to pay for it incase its p2p (pay2play) i wish it comes out soon
i am playing Circle of Doom atm and i wish i wont but i wanna know when KUF2 is out i hear its out lol on last day of this year in stores 1st of jan is that true? or bull msg me please
i was thinking if the encablossa come again i wish they come because they are the most powerful force but only 1 problem they will kick my ass like never before
is this game in 3rd person view and can you walk around fighting things or is it a pick a move game where its realy boring and you have to do things like punch and things ?
you can walk around things...its pretty cool.... i play the crusaders and it was aweison...you can control your troops and also control the hero and you can walk around and beat the shit out of orcs
YES!!!! another (epic scale warfare) game like kuf:crusaders was, not shitty ol' rpg like circle of doom. plus i hear some of the original music edited...
wonder if the encanblossa will make a reapperance to kick everyone asses....again
Kingdom Under Fire Is A blend of a Real Time Hack and Slash RPG and A very Extreme and Tactical Real Time Strategy. The Gameplay in the previouse titles known as "The Crusades" and "Heroes" kept this rule in play, until they came out with "Circle of doom" What people have trouble understanding is that "Circle of Doom" wasnt exactly a complete game. More of a project to get its Hack and slash part down pat. But this game, its an amazing story and the best game i played.
You can play online of offline, usually games that feature this have a crappy offline mode, but the story and gameplay is amazing, so either way if your a lone gamer or a party gamer, you will find somehting. It plays like something i have never played before, a mix of an RTS and Hack And Slash RPG, but it is deffinatley not a button masher at all, its applies various tactics and... well just buy the game when it comes out.
The offline single player is only for the pc, it will be for the consoles as well. NO one wants a game like this to just only have mutilplayer. So i'm sure they'll have single player campaigns like on the other games. Get your facts stright.
mate its an mmorpg, most peple will be buying it for its online play. just because you wont buy it if it dosnt have a single player campaign that does not mean everyone else will think the same. world of warcraft is entirely online, and it has 12m + subscribers. go figure.
I'd really like to find a video with actual gameplay not just trailers does anyone know a video. if so please click on my profile and send me the link
hey, can you tell me where you got the KUF soundtrack?
Also, THIS GAME WILL BE SO AWESOME!!! [/fanboy]
really, I just cannot wait for this game. KUF Crusaders and Heros are among my favourite games, and this seems like it will be on a whole nother level.
this one sounds like their re doing it like crusades was, using all the same system of works, i hope they will use the original voices.
rts is supposed to be the aim but with castle sieges, massive siege engines etc. glad the 2 companies have got together to make this next title, cant wait
WAIT WAIT SEE THE COMMENT BELOW ME WELL I FIGURED IT OUT.....THE GUY WITH THE GUN IS....GERALD AS A YOUNG KID....Or maybe its his son Its one of the 2
its neither Gerald as a young kid or walters son. its none of the old characters. KUF2 takes place after circle of doom, once regnier takes controll of the encablosian army. the character with the dreads is completly new. only a few of the characters from the origional game remain.
Thats stupid circle of doom is horrible i will NEVER play it. Guess Ill lose out on a lot of info though. O well not into RPGs so if Phantagram wants to put it after circle of doom that just makes me not want to buy it more but i still will. Hopefully some rts will still remain.
im pretty sure the main charecter(the one that resembles gerald, but with dreads) IS geralds son, its wjat i've heard atleast, if i find the link of where i read it from il post it up for you
lol dude ive seen almost all of thouse pixes on google images exsept the first two ones.ehter way i liked it so ill subscrib oh and I was wondering (only if you know) what is the big guy with the horns`s name.
p.s der vorteil der dadurch ist das man in dieser online spielweise nur den charakter den man durchgespielt hat benutzen kann man weiß das der kampfbruder in meine arme das spiel beherscht. und was vielleicht noch lustig wäre. wenn man im storymodos im spiel waffen oder rüstung in den verschiedene levels versteckt. auf eine weise spielt man storymodos öfters und andere weise in den onlineschlachten kleinen vorteil durch gegenstand rüstung oder schwert plus 5 angriff oder so
ich würde es begrüßen wenn man das spiel gegeneinander spielen könnte wenn man ne 2 konsole anschließt. oder im internet gegeneinander das man sich seine arme aus sucht. und was vielleicht interessant wäre so ne sache. sag ich mal es gibt ja bei kuf armen klassen bogen schwerter äxte etc und ich such mir halt eine klasse aus mit den charakter den ich im story modus durchgespielt habe. und dadurch kommen so welche spiele zustande zwar 2 armen aber 10 spieler gegen 10 andere spieler
xbox360??
Handyvideos1 7 months ago
dude this game is going to be great haha
assassion01 1 year ago
I feel compeled to say this, I'm not very good at this game. I can almost never get past the normal difficulty, but goddamnit do I love this game! Please, when it comes time to be online lets be a nice and friendly community
WyattsFreakinChannel 1 year ago
Think people forget the very first Kingdom on Fire was a RTS/RPG on the PC to begin with, shame because I think they lost sight of that on Circle of Doom =/
DemonManMelfice 1 year ago
hey big news to all those that has an ps3 the game will not be on the PS3 dono y
ol987 1 year ago
@ol987 Because it has alwasy been for the pc and xbox. I don't see them bringing it out for the ps3 anytime soon. But still one can hope.
fableofsea 1 year ago
1:18.......BADASS!!!!!
Whosurdaddy485 1 year ago
dude does anyone know when this will be available in the united states for xbox if
litter1995 1 year ago
no regnier?????
dakotaraypacker 1 year ago
Judging by the pictures at 1:17 and 1:18 Geralds 150 year old son(lol) Glenn will come up against Reigner. Like father like son eh?. I wondar if Ellen's still alive, I think she is.
CRACKPOTATOE 1 year ago
@CRACKPOTATOE son of regnier i think because in kingodm underfire 1
they tell the ancient hearth was destroyd so regnier turend out normall and deid
luukluuk34 1 year ago
@luukluuk34 Thats wrong because Reignier was tied to the Ancient Heart and when it got destroyed, he SLOWLY became human again, but he then destroyed Encablossa's body and was sucked into the Dark Dimension. He then underwent a mutation and reamerged 150 years later.
CRACKPOTATOE 1 year ago
@CRACKPOTATOE ooooooooooo ok now i remeber everything again exept for the circle of doom what i dont have
luukluuk34 1 year ago
@luukluuk34 no if u play circle of doom and do regneirs story quest at the end he returns to the age of light to bring upon the age of darkness he says something about waiting 40 years so this could be 40 years after i dont know just a statement it makes sence tho
MAIDENrules100 1 year ago
Reigner looks so badass in that pic!
BillyCauseyjr 1 year ago
how i can download it?
VlADUnbA24 1 year ago
pretty sweet video... Regnier will kill all you feeble humans, weak elves, dwarf potato sacks.
Tokasu1 1 year ago
But will you have to pay for the mmo on the xbox 360 that's what i'm asking. Since I already pay for live as well as the internet. I don't want to have to pay a fee to play KUF2 online.
fableofsea 1 year ago
omg omg omg!! Regnier looks so awesome!! he's my favorite character! i wonder how he became immortal after circle of doom? oh well, the game is going to be so fucking cool! and remember people, "patience is a virtue".
TheScourgeable 2 years ago
WHEN IS THIS COMMING OUT???
I realy want this game :D:D:D:D
im wating for a gmae like this since.. forever :P
Fighting a great battle.. youre charcter somwhere between in killing youre neemy.. Nice..
darthkay 2 years ago 2
yo whats the release date of the game, been waiting for a game like this since kingdom under fire crusaders...
akl13320 2 years ago 2
Song Name pls
enzoc2 2 years ago
aww where kendal, he was my fav
ice99999999 2 years ago
Ohmahgawd.
Regnier looks even mre badass...sweet.
xxSMGsoulSMGxx 2 years ago
hahaha are yous dumb? specially people who are saying pc has MMOARTS but no single player.. Wrong, it has both, but for MMOARTS you'll have to pay.
johno121o 2 years ago
actually is for pc an xbox 360 and will be MMOARTS
Sombradelbosque 2 years ago
Funny story i just got game informer it said 360 will have the MMORTS online and it only says its for the 360 not pc?
Krusnik07 2 years ago
Your all wrong! The PC will have the MMORTS Action Gameplay but no Singleplayer.
The 360 Version is getting the Singleplayer and Standard Muliplayer like what we saw in KUF:Heroes.
Yes they will be Skirmish i bet also.
The PS3 Version was Canceled i belive, I dont know why though
BaggysAnime 2 years ago
this is the second game on my list after modern warfare 2 of course
GregRK7 2 years ago
Like I said earlier, they wont only have a online play idiot. They'll have offline campaigns as well as online play. If they don't have offline campaigns for all of the chracters, then they're shitting on the game like they did cod.
fableofsea 2 years ago
Just checked the 360 version will have single player campaigns and well as online play like the other two. But you might have to pay to play it online on the 360, and the computer is going to be straight up mmo. Like i said if they don't include single player campaigns that would crap on alot other people including myself. So many people enjoy the single player campaings so i'm pretty sure they'll put them in as well.
fableofsea 2 years ago
umm i never said one word to you i think you might have the wrong person.
GregRK7 2 years ago
lol. my list is this
1.Modern Warfare 2
2.Assasins creed 2
3.Kingdom underfire 2
4.Mass efect 2
5.Bioshock 2
btw did u notice all the 2's? mostly becuz i have all the 1's lol
barod1 2 years ago
HEY! Where is MAG and Dragon Age:Origins?
samboguitarist 2 years ago
i heard that the game will come late in 2010 am not sure tho and it is said there is a chance of it becoming f2p (free2play) on the pc version but am 100% sure it will be in 2010 that what the developers said. the game is totaly awsome and i loved the new look of regnier :D you guys difinitly need to pay for it incase its p2p (pay2play) i wish it comes out soon
subzero4222 2 years ago
If you pay 60 or 50 dollars for a game you shouldn't have to pay to play it online, that's just a rip off in my book.
fableofsea 2 years ago
regnier looks bad ass in this game
RingingFall 2 years ago 2
i am playing Circle of Doom atm and i wish i wont but i wanna know when KUF2 is out i hear its out lol on last day of this year in stores 1st of jan is that true? or bull msg me please
english3801 2 years ago
ya its coming out jan first
RingingFall 2 years ago
FUCK YESSSS!
I only hope it's more like Crusaders. I didn't really think Heroes was an improvement and Circle of Doom wasn't that great.
ResidentDoom 2 years ago
Crusader and Heroes are both great but Circle of Doom is the worst piece of crap i ever played
Shleague 2 years ago
ITS GLEN ELLEN AND GERALDS SON
bluec5834 2 years ago
omg tell me wen it come out plz 0_0
kmjn12 2 years ago
this song brings back memories, one time a played KUF crusaders for 9 hours, i played it so much that the song was stuck in my head.. LOVE KUF!!
getintoawheelchair 2 years ago
i was thinking if the encablossa come again i wish they come because they are the most powerful force but only 1 problem they will kick my ass like never before
noob5456 2 years ago
is this game in 3rd person view and can you walk around fighting things or is it a pick a move game where its realy boring and you have to do things like punch and things ?
peetahp3 2 years ago
you can walk around things...its pretty cool.... i play the crusaders and it was aweison...you can control your troops and also control the hero and you can walk around and beat the shit out of orcs
mechupanlamonda 2 years ago
If you want to get a little information, check my video
"Kingdom under fire ll test video"
lsw3467 2 years ago
omg mutant regnier and thomas
inquisidor312 2 years ago
YES!!!! another (epic scale warfare) game like kuf:crusaders was, not shitty ol' rpg like circle of doom. plus i hear some of the original music edited...
wonder if the encanblossa will make a reapperance to kick everyone asses....again
killerduck543 2 years ago
it will only be on xbox 360, and pc
ufda94 2 years ago
and ps3
Samstinktnaarkots 2 years ago
wow Regnier wearing full armor?!
Shiratsui 2 years ago
kingdom under fire will never be on ps3 lol
rockleepowerbfme2 2 years ago
mm thats a kind of problem, it will be for PS3 too, and PC....crap (PS3)
tizoooc 2 years ago
they said that circle of doom also would be on pc.. but it never came :(
piewarrior 2 years ago
@tizoooc It wont be on the ps3 only on the computer and xbox 360
fableofsea 1 year ago
when does this game come out?
zoony247 2 years ago
when will this game come out in europe or United states?
salehmaster 2 years ago 2
I like a lot the game's music
YoMerolX 2 years ago
Will this be on PS3 ? i wish :D
johanxfgjohan 2 years ago
I wish not.. hohoho...=)
tizoooc 2 years ago
is it for computer or xbox 360
billybill15 2 years ago
@johanxfgjohan it will be XD
258262 1 year ago
KUF Can't wait this game will be epic just like KUF:Crusaders And Heroes. No doubt about it.
EsfixLock 2 years ago
any1 wanna play KUF heros online with me lol
k2themann 2 years ago
bout time they made this type of game much better than lotr coquest
JOEYJORDISON666MAD 2 years ago 2
try Atlantica Online! best free MMORPG so far ;)
Noisefreaker 2 years ago
I dont understand...
Is this game like age of empires? can you build your defence and create soilders?
fushion999 2 years ago
stop spamming videos with the same fucking shit and play the first two games for the xbox and find out for ur fucking self
TekBubs 2 years ago
why not stfu who pays to find out something you can ask for free.
TheDevi1Child 2 years ago
Like Dynasty warriors size battles but you control many companies.
Demandred02 2 years ago
LookingOutForYou 3 years ago 6
Can you play offline? And play it like a oblivion/dynasty warrior style?
cosmosvision 3 years ago
yes you can its goign to be a massive online game
joelbennett12345 3 years ago
You can play online of offline, usually games that feature this have a crappy offline mode, but the story and gameplay is amazing, so either way if your a lone gamer or a party gamer, you will find somehting. It plays like something i have never played before, a mix of an RTS and Hack And Slash RPG, but it is deffinatley not a button masher at all, its applies various tactics and... well just buy the game when it comes out.
LookingOutForYou 2 years ago
Ya, but the offline single player is only for PC. They'll be primarily focusing on the multiplayer so it's nothing that will affect the core game.
EternalSage07 2 years ago
The offline single player is only for the pc, it will be for the consoles as well. NO one wants a game like this to just only have mutilplayer. So i'm sure they'll have single player campaigns like on the other games. Get your facts stright.
fableofsea 2 years ago
mate its an mmorpg, most peple will be buying it for its online play. just because you wont buy it if it dosnt have a single player campaign that does not mean everyone else will think the same. world of warcraft is entirely online, and it has 12m + subscribers. go figure.
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago
youve played kuf 2?
Cloudfromff7live 3 years ago
Ive had plently of experience with the other KUF games and found vast sources of info to know what to expect :D
LookingOutForYou 2 years ago
I'd really like to find a video with actual gameplay not just trailers does anyone know a video. if so please click on my profile and send me the link
gardengnome41341 3 years ago
the latest kingdom under fire video is real gameplay
SteamC101 3 years ago
When is this comeing out! I MUST GET THIS! ^_^
AnimeFanGod 3 years ago
I remember in custom mode in KUF Heroes u could play as Regnier
Once i made him swing his sword and his robes flew up...HE HAD NO BALLS!
xxXbdogXxx 3 years ago
hahahah i dint see that, I wasn't looking for his balls!
tizoooc 3 years ago
bueno wey, no las baje de ningun lado, ya las grabe
tizoooc 3 years ago
y cuando sale yo tengo el crusaders y el heroes pero cuando sale este
tlalocmex 3 years ago
de donde sacaste la musicaa!!! dimelo porfavor!!
pinguman13 3 years ago
porke deberia decirte =/??? o ke rola me darias tu a cambio de las ke tengo
tizoooc 3 years ago
apoco así de mala ondaa! no seas malo!! dimelo!! porfis
pinguman13 3 years ago
hahaha, tu tienwes??
tizoooc 3 years ago
tienwes?? y eso ke es??
pinguman13 3 years ago
no las baje, las grabe wet
tizoooc 3 years ago
oh! neto! de donde?? del juego mismo del xbox?? o ke??
pinguman13 3 years ago
where did you get that song??
pinguman13 3 years ago
reigner's sword is awsome!
p00nji 3 years ago
When is it coming out?
Lobato1987 3 years ago
OMFG this game is gonna be wicked!!!!!!!!
and btw they melded leinhart with reigner cuz u know leinharts last armor on Circle of doom it looks like reiner's armor a little bit
woren3 3 years ago
OMFG! Reigner is still in this?!?! YES!
robbiestar171717 3 years ago
i beat both KUF for xbox i want KUF2 its gona be good i hated the last one that came out for xbox360 trash : ( my gamer tag cyberthief86
mvpdemi 3 years ago
lol i want the game but i mega fail at kuf i got the crusaders and im stuck on both lucretia and gerald's final missions
billybob78193 3 years ago
the game is an incredibly hard, if you get stuck, I recommend going through it all again and spenind your Exp in a different way =P
I completed Geralds whole Story in less than 24 hours just a couple of days ago, uploaded some of Woodenshade on my channel =P
DWFTW 3 years ago
January 8th I think, or 13th of Jan
Moosixman 3 years ago
where did you get that information??
tizoooc 3 years ago
hey, can you tell me where you got the KUF soundtrack?
Also, THIS GAME WILL BE SO AWESOME!!! [/fanboy]
really, I just cannot wait for this game. KUF Crusaders and Heros are among my favourite games, and this seems like it will be on a whole nother level.
DWFTW 3 years ago
when does this come out??? The graphics look amazing!! ive got both of the KUF and i still play them, once again when does this come out?
AxeBond5 3 years ago 2
whats is this for a game it is realy good an its it just for pc or if it is even for that?=
davidnilsson94 3 years ago
Pc Xbox 360 and ps3 i think
axenbrant 3 years ago
thx
davidnilsson94 3 years ago
hell yeah!!! im horny, i want this game
cybergus18 3 years ago
u should see the gameplay video then
mc5kotjmf 3 years ago
When does it arrive mate?
wepper5 3 years ago
CAN YOU BUILD CASTLES IN THIS GAME?!
skyraptor 3 years ago
is dat on the 360
wrexq 3 years ago
Pc, 360, and i think maybe on PS3, I hope not :)
tizoooc 3 years ago
this one sounds like their re doing it like crusades was, using all the same system of works, i hope they will use the original voices.
rts is supposed to be the aim but with castle sieges, massive siege engines etc. glad the 2 companies have got together to make this next title, cant wait
grysjay 3 years ago
YOu want to I upload the bgm??
tizoooc 3 years ago
Anyone here want to play xbox live with me on normal xbox?? Msg me privately ur name and we hook at at a certain time and play together.
gamevideodood 3 years ago
i cnat wait i had so much fun whit the last two from xbox...not the crappy circle of doom :@.
AnthonyPR1990 3 years ago 4
WAIT WAIT SEE THE COMMENT BELOW ME WELL I FIGURED IT OUT.....THE GUY WITH THE GUN IS....GERALD AS A YOUNG KID....Or maybe its his son Its one of the 2
gamevideodood 3 years ago
i think that maybe, and i say maybe, that guy is walters son, thomas.
tizoooc 3 years ago
Eh i doubt its thomas thats not his hair color. Although it could be kendal young....Ah I still think its Gerald or His Son
gamevideodood 3 years ago
its neither Gerald as a young kid or walters son. its none of the old characters. KUF2 takes place after circle of doom, once regnier takes controll of the encablosian army. the character with the dreads is completly new. only a few of the characters from the origional game remain.
billytalent504 3 years ago
Thats stupid circle of doom is horrible i will NEVER play it. Guess Ill lose out on a lot of info though. O well not into RPGs so if Phantagram wants to put it after circle of doom that just makes me not want to buy it more but i still will. Hopefully some rts will still remain.
gamevideodood 3 years ago
Thoughts about this video:
1: Guy with DreadLocks, Geralds Son
2: Graphics: Beautiful (Go Xbox360!)
3: I would buy an 360 for this (I have 1 tho)
4: Regnier (COOLER THAN EVER!)
5: OMG 3 MORE MONTHS OF LONGIFIED TORTURE OF NOT HAVING IT OMGOMGOMGOMG!
gamevideodood 3 years ago
can someone tell me where i can find the songs for kingdom under fire the crusaders!?
darkalex013 3 years ago
reigners gonna be on KUF2?
jamie9377135 3 years ago
yup, is that horned dud, the same regnier
tizoooc 3 years ago
they should bring back the original heroes curian,keither,moonlight,rick blood,likuku and yea
bloodmage74 3 years ago
I wonder if thomas(walters son) is going to be as playable character.
tomnothingmoreorless 3 years ago
I wonder it Too, it will be really awesome, if this guy is thomas, because maybe, maybe is geralds son. who knows
tizoooc 3 years ago
im pretty sure the main charecter(the one that resembles gerald, but with dreads) IS geralds son, its wjat i've heard atleast, if i find the link of where i read it from il post it up for you
JoshWkendall 3 years ago
the Trailer of KUF2 confirms this too, his name is Glen, which is what Gerald's son is named in KUF: Crusaders.
DWFTW 3 years ago
lol dude ive seen almost all of thouse pixes on google images exsept the first two ones.ehter way i liked it so ill subscrib oh and I was wondering (only if you know) what is the big guy with the horns`s name.
mukrup529 3 years ago
hahahaha obvious is Regnier
tizoooc 3 years ago
this game is gonna be awsome
zop20 3 years ago 2
allso where did u get the music i know its from kuf but where did u download it from pls tell me
zop20 3 years ago
this is the true sequal to kuf the crusaders
mc5kotjmf 3 years ago 2
thats true...this is what we have been REALLY waiting for!!!!
Bladed0edge0razor 3 years ago
Yea. KUF Heroes is kind of a prequel to KUF Crusaders.
Cant wait for number two!
xxXbdogXxx 3 years ago
can't wait, it looks fucking awesome
RavenFilth 3 years ago 2
p.s der vorteil der dadurch ist das man in dieser online spielweise nur den charakter den man durchgespielt hat benutzen kann man weiß das der kampfbruder in meine arme das spiel beherscht. und was vielleicht noch lustig wäre. wenn man im storymodos im spiel waffen oder rüstung in den verschiedene levels versteckt. auf eine weise spielt man storymodos öfters und andere weise in den onlineschlachten kleinen vorteil durch gegenstand rüstung oder schwert plus 5 angriff oder so
sternkampf 3 years ago
ich würde es begrüßen wenn man das spiel gegeneinander spielen könnte wenn man ne 2 konsole anschließt. oder im internet gegeneinander das man sich seine arme aus sucht. und was vielleicht interessant wäre so ne sache. sag ich mal es gibt ja bei kuf armen klassen bogen schwerter äxte etc und ich such mir halt eine klasse aus mit den charakter den ich im story modus durchgespielt habe. und dadurch kommen so welche spiele zustande zwar 2 armen aber 10 spieler gegen 10 andere spieler
sternkampf 3 years ago