Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir Screener

[fietsvriend]

Were S d B. and J P S. twin flames?

[claudiobenassi85]

Read books and organize underage prostitution, that must have been a blast really.

[CocteauDalighari]

Sartre left most of the existentialist stuff behind w/ his later writing: Marxism was for him a philosophy; not an economic, political, or gov. theory. Then Sartre explained why Marx's theory of "class" was false, so Marxism was left in the dust too. This was 'round 1960. Sartre was more of a genuine anarchist; & Marx thought anarchists were fools.

[Dullence92]

Sartre is a moron

[x3Rinachanx3]

@Dullence92 Who are you to say this. You don't even know the beauty of his sayings. You are the moron here.

[maxbheath]

"I think therefore i am. . . a moustache!"

[caesiume]

Stupid slut.

[mrfreudable]

I will read it again for sure. These types of novels are very few. I love the genre, if one may call it a genre.

By the way, "No Exit" by Sartre is a very good play.

[buildingm]

Yes, it is the same. Camus purposely wrote the book in a very dry, short prose...

I would say revisit it... It's a marquee existential piece. The passive, estranged narration is critical—i.e., no emotion and only description—and the monotony is deliberate and quite significant from an existential perspective... I understand how it could be boring, but read it actively, as something wrong than a bone dry narrative, and I think you will be pleased.

[mrfreudable]

I''ve never seen the human condition conveyed better than Sartre in his novel Nausea. If anyone knows any other novels that deal affectingly with this isssue please let me know -thanks. By the way, Kafka is my other favourite writer.

[buildingm]

@mrfreudable

I'm assuming you've read Camus... If not, his novels The Stranger and The Fall are must takes, and his essay The Myth of Sisyphus as well.

However, in my opinion, planet earth has not seen a greater writer than Dostoevsky. And if you like Sartre, then you will love Russia's honorary existentialist, Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Crime and Punishment and Notes from Underground are my personal favorites.

Enjoy!

[mrfreudable]

@buildingm Hi, i've read The Outsider. Is that the same novel as 'the stranger'? Anyway I wasn't that impressed. Maybe I need to read it again. I thought it was good but such a quiet novel - the protagonist is almost passive. Maybe that's the point.

Thanks for the Dostoevsky tip. Ive read some of C and P and was impressed somewhat - i will read it all one day. Notes form the underground sounds like a must read and to be honest it's been in my mind as a deffo future read -thanks! ;-)

[Viperplayer187]

was J P S really under 5'0 tall?

[ZerstorenAH]

@Viperplayer187 Allegedly yes. He certainly appeard relatively short when in company.

[ramalekshmans]

Only Sartre had the talented eyes to see right and left at a time.

[igowithyou]

Tuck , where are you?

[chachokeva]

Not sure I agree with you're POV. Neither will I dismiss it. Im a 50 year old male. As of late, Ive arrived at that point of life where one begins to analyze and scrutinize one's life's work, failures and accomplishments. Without a doubt I can state that the essence of my being is directly proportional to the total sum of choices I've made throughout my life. Were I to couple this with the conscious choice of doing what is responsible, there is no denying the premise of Existentialism.

[infrasleep]

@chachokeva Again I would say right only up to a point. How many choices aren't decided by our free will ? An existentialist would have to maintain that the 9/11 victims died because of their concious choice to go to work that day;or that African famine victims died as they chose to stay where there was no food, This is where existentialism falls apart-one of many areas, and i agree with critics that Sartres great theory is pure casuistry and only casuists debate it now

[RuudvdMe]

@infrasleep A comprehensive reading of EN [Being & Nothingness] shows that the fact that you are responsible [sic] for your world doesn't necessarily mean that you are free to do whatever you like. Like you write 'The idea that each individuals will creates existence ignores too many other factors to be a sound idea.' Sartre dinstinguishes both facticity and transcendence in EN for man's possible authenticity. His framework is the idea of man transcending himself towards a possible future.

[RuudvdMe]

@RuudvdMe Which means that you should never conceive yourself like an essence (i.e.: 'I'm a depressed person'). You should always remember that you're - in a way - free to alter yourself from this facticity, although you might never do so. Without considering myself an existentialist, it's quite another thing to call it casuistry. As Gilles Deleuze said: (..) Fortunately there was Sartre. Sartre was our Outside, he was really the breath of fresh air from the backyard.

[infrasleep]

@RuudvdMe But transcendence means going beyond the normal range of human experience- usually achieved by drugs or religious manias and serve only to give us the illusion of being more than human. Eastern philosophers pre date Sartre by 3000 years exploring the role of free will in mans actions way above Sartres level and with relevence to the human condition. Man has deluded himself -eg with monks/shamen etc that we have some extra gift-take away the luxuries of technology & we're animal again

[RuudvdMe]

@infrasleep IF Sartre was all about transcendence, yes, but again: he is not. Sartre [read: part 1, chapter 2 B&N] is about facticity as well, which he knows full well that you sometimes cannot transcend. It has nothing to do with 'buddhist monks', he formulates freedom in a 'negative sense' like Kant. We cannot conceive ourselves as mere 'cogs in a machine' which is why we have the (illusory) feeling of being free.

[RuudvdMe]

@RuudvdMe This necessary illusion is what he ,quite brilliantly, examines in his play Dirty Hands. I just felt like responding because there's so much bullcrap about Sartre out in the open. Read Sartre like an atheistic Kant and he might have something in store for you as well. He is not an idiot that was outdated 3000 years ago; people in the '50's and '60's actually were not complete retards...

[infrasleep]

@RuudvdMe Intelectuals are actually bigoted fools! So suggests Saul Bellow and Alan Bloom, as they spend their whole being on a certain ideology and refuse to see the flaws in the glass-Marxists/communiists are the obvious (Sartre was an avid Marxist) An eg-Paul Foot, a campaigning reporter spent half his life 'proving' the hanged murderer Hanraty was innocent. When Henratty was dug up for DNA tests it proved 100% that he was guilty, but Foot could just not accept this;his life work wasted

[infrasleep]

@RuudvdMe It seems he tries to cover too many bases and ends-as all intellectual philosophers do-in a paradox. Theres something in what he says but Sartre falls into the trap of trying to create a philosophy for everything. He has just produced a theory for something. I loved Sartre's 'Roads to Freedom' trilogy;thats him at his zenith. For me-of modernists-Gide.Yukio Mishima (Sea of Fertility) and Patrick White are far more satisfying than Sartre on the topic of being/nature.

[RuudvdMe]

My last reply out of a 2009 book on B&N by Sartre-scholar 'Sebastian Gardner':

Facticity is our fysical, spatio-temporal being in the world and all social, cultural, institutional, political and historical bonds in which we find ourselves.

Facticity is everywhere. Sartre was the philosopher of authenticity, not of freedom.

[infrasleep]

@RuudvdMe Just out of interedt; Gide in 'The Immoralist' outlines that freedom-man's eternal goal-is an impossibility. In order for me (or you or anyone else) to achieve freedom we have to impinge or deny other peoples freedom.(I may want to make love with a girl and demand the freedom to do it;but what of her rights and freedom?)Gide summed this up in a short novel;Sartre just seems to annex this and spend a million more words to arrive at the same house. Is this just cricicism of Sartre?

[igowithyou]

Tuck, Where are you?

[mangerlentement]

poorly translated.

[louiecostello]

sartre was an ugly bastard huh. no wonder he was so intent on convincing everyone nothing it existed. or something like that

[therookie93]

@louiecostello no actually that's the opposite. you're thinking of nihlism.

[louiecostello]

@therookie93 haha oh. well, maybe he should have tried to convince everyone of that

[ajsparks87]

Interesting to see how he holds his pen. A literary existence for sure.

[aura113]

whats the song at the beginning?

[Bananaskunk]

the translation is balls

[qualityfruits]

this is brilliant!

thank you so much for uploading this

[fourclaws]

i love youtube

brilliant, thank you for uploading, goes on my to-buy list straight away

[flimpkin4]

Nice to see the human side of two intellectual giants.

[scotty123123]

de Beauvoir was a paedophile

[S2Cents]

@scotty123123 That's hot.

[scotty123123]

de Beauvoir was paedophile

Sartre was quite a good philosopher and writer, but not a great philosopher

[infrasleep]

@scotty123123 Sartre was a pseud, 'Existentialism' is a hopelessly flawed 'philosophy' all the debates on it lead down meaningless cul de sacs. The idea that each individuals will creates existence ignores too many other factors to be a sound idea. The fact that nothing today is discussed from 'The existential viewpoint' shows how naff it was. His 'Roads to Freedom' trilogy are superb, however.

[Supernovae04]

Sartre was a dick and an idiot. We're not as free as he'd like us to be.

[shady4life1991]

@Supernovae04 Oh and how aren't we? We're completely free to think and act until these rights are impinged upon by others who don't realise that their own freedom is subject to the freedom of all others. With complete freedom comes complete responsiblity for your actions and that is what you fear. Sartre was more intelligent than you could ever dream of being.

[silpaton]

Una pareja irrecuperable. ¡Dos filósofos juntos!

[ToTheLighthouseAgain]

thanks...this is a great 'inside' into privacy of two very influential thinkers....

[TheBraveryGirl]

Thank you for posting

[lussam]

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[Camilopeter]

excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!....en verdad me quedo sin palabras..es un tetimonio filmico de primeria linea......talvez no exista otro en donde se vean esos planos de la vida y figura de Sartre ..