U.S. Soccer Referee Position Paper: May 21, 2007

[LeeBeez6]

I was directed to this video from discussion at asktheref Question 25706, you can read what experienced refs are saying about it. Note the difference between FIFA and USSF interpretations and that this is a U.S. position paper!

[kokteilista]

jesus, there's only one man in whole america who knows the rules? :-DD (respect to Sc00le)

most of the answerts are totally ridiculous.. so let's get to the explanation

defender doesn't need to intend to pass the ball to goalkeeper. goalkeeper should know from whom it was played and if it was a pass not a deflection or defending touch, it must be INDIRECT FREE KICK. no way direct

[ANESTORLAK]

Penalty...goalie cant pick it up when passed back by a team mate.. we all know that!!

[glaschris08]

thats a passback all day long fellas. 100% an indirect freekick in the box.

some of you guys need to get a hold of a rulebook

[ToMii23q]

when yu watch this you can see that the ball wasnt suposed to go to the keeper, it was meant for the defender but he let it go.

[machquec698]

Read the paper on this video.

• The ball is kicked (played with the foot) by a teammate of the goalkeeper,

• This action is deemed to be deliberate rather than a deflection, and

• The goalkeeper handles the ball directly (no intervening touch of play of

the ball by anyone else)

When, in the opinion of the referee, these three conditions are met, the violation has

occurred..... and it is not necessary for the deliberate play by the teammate to be "to" the

goalkeeper.

[abrahamlandrix]

@machquec698

Very interesting point that you mentioned. It depends how the referee interprets the play but you're right about the "delibarate" part.

[ExRhody]

The most important thing here is "In the opinion of the referee". The ball has to be passed deliberately to the goalkeeper for an Indirect Free Kick to be awarded. This is a very close video but i doubt i would award it unless i felt the players were doing this to circumvent the laws. one more thing you cant have a DFK from this as any DFK in the penalty area is a, you guessed it, penalty

[trevorrappleye]

indirect free... kick...

[Staffdog360]

Gettin a bit tech on me eh

[Sc00le]

This is how I see the video clip: The opposing Gkeeper punts rthe ball. There is a scuffle around mid field. The red player gets the ball and kicks it toward his team mate, who instead of playing the ball, allows it to roll past him and on to the gial keeper. That red player was not even impeeding because he was within playing the ball distance.

[mig027]

Did the referee call the foul? And did he award an indirect free kick or a PK?

[libertysoccer25]

unfortunately, no.

[CTKerrs]

yea definitely an indirect, it was a non-contact foul. It would have just been inside the box.

[Sc00le]

This is not a foul. FYI a fouls is committed between opponents, during play, while on the pitch. If it doesn't have all 3, its not a fouil. It can me misconduct or an infrantion.

Gee whizz fellers, aren't there any soccer referees here?

[xizzlex]

Thats right. IFK is for technical offences (offside, playing in a dangerous manner ect.), while DFK is for penal offences (Pushing, Holding, Striking, Deliberate Handball, Kicking, Tripping, Jumping, Tackling, Charging and Spitting).

[taysmithhh]

pass delibertly passed back and picked up by goal keeper is direct kick

[Sc00le]

not from what I understand. Please see Law 12 regarding Fouls & Misconduct. An IFK is awarded when the GK picks up the ball with his hands after a pass to him by a team mate. Not a DFK offense for the GK to use his hands after a pass to him by a team mate.

[Staffdog360]

Thats a direct fk, and a yellow card

[Sc00le]

show me the USSF or FIFA law backing up your position (on the dfk for GK using his hands

from a pass to him by a team mate). Iam happy to learn something but I respectfully disagree with your answer as of now.

[Sc00le]

Law 12, regarding IFK for for offensices committed by the goal keeper. It says (in part) A goal keeper is not allowed to use his hands in the following 3 times: 1) He handles the ball a 2nd time after releasing it but before another player has touched it, 2) He touched the ball with his hands after the ball was deliberately kicked (passed) to him by a team mate 3) He touches the ball with his hands by a team mate's throw in. RESTARE is an IFK from the position where the offense occured. Sc00le

[btgoodlin]

I didn't even know what I was looking for! The video is of such poor quality and there was no setup or description under the video. So, this was about a kick-back to the keeper?

[westmilan1]

Our fellow ref should have gotten this right, if he was in better position closer to 18yd line

[preeyuuhxdance]

no it would of been a direct kick

[MisterWilson]

No, tubetone64 was correct. If a goalkeeper handles a ball, in his penalty area, that is deliberately kicked by his teammate, the restart is an indirect free kick.

[tubetone64]

Would have been an indirect kick anyway

[mateosaul20]

Yeah, that play could have decided the whole game if we would have got that foul.

GO CREW!

[darkgate314]

hard to really tell cause the vid is blurry