Once, in my neighborhood, there was a cerfew for what time you had to be in your house and turn off your yard lights. My family ans I are night owls. We are outside and walking around every night. ONce, they caught my dad taking a walk and arrested him. (neighborhood clubhouse= jail) we had to pay a fine and we were suspended from sports clubs in our neighborhood for 2 years. That causes conflict and we and many others move baecause of this. I don't know what happened to that rule.
Wow thats early...in England, well..where I live in Blackpool some of our clubs are open till 6am but most are open till 4am and we can come and go freely with a stamp from the club..and there is rarely mass violence, and occasional individual violence but is quickly settled down because of the amount of police and bouncers around the town..We did have lots of drink related crimes before the extra late licence was enforced and now they seem to have decreased in number.
All I can say is thank god that I dont live in Australia. While it sounds good, other then the bush fires, here in America we do have legislation, maybe it is only my state, but all the bars and clubs close at 3am. No exceptions. Last call is about 2:50 or 2:45am. Historically when laws are passed to quail something like this the result is never good. Politicians dont learn very quickly at all anywhere.
It's simple, the decisions are made due to individual's unwillingness to take responsible for themselves and drink responsibly. The legal drinking age was designed so that people would be mature enough to make intelligent drinking decisions for themselves. When that fails, people blame the bars. When bars fail to be good Nannies, the government is forced to play the role of babysitter for stupid adults.
Where i live a similar operation was applied, but for drug control. In either case, the ones who suffer the most are the business owners and eventually the general public, because of the lack of business.
If the bar doesn't sell drinks, the liquor store doesn't sell booze as it did and in both cases people get fired.
Instead of bullying barowners to comply, it would be better for the bars to take some responsibility in how much their clients drink, 4 beers is enough 12 is too much.
Rob...New Subscriber(also from Central USA), been to Sydney and Melbourne(April 2006) GR8 experience. You make a good points on crowd control(gay bashing, other violence) on Lockout policy! Thanks for sharing and YOU are very well spoken! Your a KEWL Dude, ROB!
So i have mixed feelings, I love drinking and I dont drive so wish there were no restrictions on time to drink, however the restrition allows me alone time with my favorite bartenders and friends in empty bars in the early morning, not to mention has probably saved me from complete poverty and liver failure.
I tend bar in San Francisco. our bar time is 2 AM, so at 1:45 I have to toss everyone out of my bar or I could lose my job and cost the bar it's liquor liscense. the only ones that stay after 2 are "co-workers" to help clean up.
Any serious drinker or bar-worker can always find a place where "speakeasy hours" can be enjoyed with fellow barworkers.
They have tried this in the US in various ways and they always fail. Restricting freedom does not make for safer enviroments. Just look at prison communities. Did they think about having more police patrols to curb incidents or don't they stay up that late? Good luck.
All through out Queensland there is a 3am lock out, which is around the time all the fights break out. I went to Melbourne earlier this year before the lock out trial went into effect and I never felt safer.
It comes down to the venues staff to curb violence, there have been a few nights, maybe more, where I could hardly stand up and still been served alcohol. Security staff need to have more co-operation with the police to move trouble makers on.
Labour is gone!! Rees is a joke! People won't stand for extreme government intervention. I know that on the Gold Coast at 3am people spill out onto the streets and start biffs. Mind you the police presence in Surfers makes it slightly safer. And the cab situation is a joke cos everyone wants to go home once the clubs shut. I once had to hitch a ride from Surfers Paradise all the way to the Northern End of the coast. Alcohol makes for poor choices.... I know all too well.
We (UK) changed about 2 years ago from no alcohol sales after 11pm, to pubs and clubs being able to apply for licences for any time in the day or night.
Hasn't made a lot of difference to us, but then we have trouble with a binge-drinking culture, where it's seen to be cool to get so drunk you don't remember anything the next day (which I've never understood.)
first off.. like the hair today... secondly... sounds like they are making more problems... errr. In oklahoma, drinking clubs close at 2am, Hugs and Kisses, Ryan
it's so stupid especially when Melbourne had just gotten results saying it didn't work. And I've had that pain with taxi's, end up walking half the way home, which felt a lot less safe.
I think some parts of Europe people go out much *later* not earlier, something a Spanish friend was saying comes to mind.
america alcohol sales are cut off at 2 am bars close shortly there after they call last call at like 130 and expect people to be out by 2 ive never experianced a fight but ive been drunkenly bumped into ..as fir your cute dance i think you should do the robot :) smooches chadchavez
I canada alcohol sales are cut off at 2am, and most bars close around 2:30-3:00 am, however "afterhours" bars do exist but do not serve alcohol. But because most bars close shortly after the cut off (the non-afterhours), they refuse entry after 2 am, and once you leave you can't get back in.
Here in manhattan you can pretty much get a drink any time of day or night. I think if bars just stay open it would help defuse things instead of everyone trying to get loaded by a certain hour and then all leaving at the same time. We don't seem to have that problem here. I wonder what the difference is? I haven't heard of any violence at the gay clubs or bars here. I feel safe walking home at any hour.
What are the zoning laws like there? Are clubs free to open up in more safe parts of town? It seems like the government should be trying to figure out a way to make the streets/clubs safe instead just making everyone go home. This must be terrible for commerce.
That is quite an interesting issue, my question is where is the opposition to the "lockout". It seems nonexistent. I live in the States and most bars/clubs stop serving alcohol at 2am but some can stay open for longer periods depending on the venue. So can't really say I've experienced anything like that.
I hope I got this: After 2am you're not allowed to be on the street? Plus that the bars stop serving alcohol? Or just the alcohol thing?
Because if it is just the alcohol serving that stops, I think that's quite smart. In Norway the alcohol serving stops around 2 or 3 in the morning (I couldn't find the exact hour). I don't see a point in drinking 'till 5am. But if you can't be on the street after 2am... Where's the point? People isn't necessary wasted at 2am just because they're outside...
well i am in the united states, and we have all our bars close at 2am, there are other clubs that stay open, but they do not sell alcohol after 2 but really by 2am we are usually ready to go home.... maybe we are used to going out earlier??? hope all is well in your part of the world!!
I've been to a couple of places that had strictly enforced curfews put in place by the government. Out in the street after a certain hour and you risk arrest or worse. All government restrictions on individual liberty stink but so does having your mates skull smashed with a beer bottle.
Why do people really need to be drinking at 2 am? I understand that you consider this to be dangerous with hooligans on the street, but quite frankly, at 2 am, people shouldn't be drinking. Yes, go out earlier. Order your drinks and finish them before 2 am.
I don't understand why governments feel the need to make decisions just to make the headlines. It doesn't help that they're using 2-year old data to make decisions. Luckily we don't have anything like that in the States. There are enough problems with the government and people following the laws that are set out as it is, we don't need anything to further the troubles.
Once, in my neighborhood, there was a cerfew for what time you had to be in your house and turn off your yard lights. My family ans I are night owls. We are outside and walking around every night. ONce, they caught my dad taking a walk and arrested him. (neighborhood clubhouse= jail) we had to pay a fine and we were suspended from sports clubs in our neighborhood for 2 years. That causes conflict and we and many others move baecause of this. I don't know what happened to that rule.
carsonmaier14 2 years ago
Wow thats early...in England, well..where I live in Blackpool some of our clubs are open till 6am but most are open till 4am and we can come and go freely with a stamp from the club..and there is rarely mass violence, and occasional individual violence but is quickly settled down because of the amount of police and bouncers around the town..We did have lots of drink related crimes before the extra late licence was enforced and now they seem to have decreased in number.
tubetricky88 2 years ago
All I can say is thank god that I dont live in Australia. While it sounds good, other then the bush fires, here in America we do have legislation, maybe it is only my state, but all the bars and clubs close at 3am. No exceptions. Last call is about 2:50 or 2:45am. Historically when laws are passed to quail something like this the result is never good. Politicians dont learn very quickly at all anywhere.
countsoss 2 years ago
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dhempton 3 years ago
It's simple, the decisions are made due to individual's unwillingness to take responsible for themselves and drink responsibly. The legal drinking age was designed so that people would be mature enough to make intelligent drinking decisions for themselves. When that fails, people blame the bars. When bars fail to be good Nannies, the government is forced to play the role of babysitter for stupid adults.
Praxxus55712 3 years ago
Where i live a similar operation was applied, but for drug control. In either case, the ones who suffer the most are the business owners and eventually the general public, because of the lack of business.
If the bar doesn't sell drinks, the liquor store doesn't sell booze as it did and in both cases people get fired.
Instead of bullying barowners to comply, it would be better for the bars to take some responsibility in how much their clients drink, 4 beers is enough 12 is too much.
whambamram 3 years ago
Rob...New Subscriber(also from Central USA), been to Sydney and Melbourne(April 2006) GR8 experience. You make a good points on crowd control(gay bashing, other violence) on Lockout policy! Thanks for sharing and YOU are very well spoken! Your a KEWL Dude, ROB!
Peace!
Topgun4UKC 3 years ago
I am new to your videos. (from the center of the U.S.) wanted to say I enjoy what you post. You are very well spoken. Keep up the great work.
kntrldkaos72 3 years ago
love the hair robbie. well the bar tiem here is 3a so they toss them out at 2:45A
rawbearar 3 years ago
So i have mixed feelings, I love drinking and I dont drive so wish there were no restrictions on time to drink, however the restrition allows me alone time with my favorite bartenders and friends in empty bars in the early morning, not to mention has probably saved me from complete poverty and liver failure.
vanness5 3 years ago
I tend bar in San Francisco. our bar time is 2 AM, so at 1:45 I have to toss everyone out of my bar or I could lose my job and cost the bar it's liquor liscense. the only ones that stay after 2 are "co-workers" to help clean up.
Any serious drinker or bar-worker can always find a place where "speakeasy hours" can be enjoyed with fellow barworkers.
vanness5 3 years ago
OMG!!!! Robbie? The hair?
What happened? *cries*
Your hair looks so good in the intro.
Also I love you to death but don't get too serious. Just relax.
I had to learn that on here and still fall into old habits sometimes.
Donnie2020 3 years ago
I think the new heaircut looks good, it suits you.
vanness5 3 years ago
They have tried this in the US in various ways and they always fail. Restricting freedom does not make for safer enviroments. Just look at prison communities. Did they think about having more police patrols to curb incidents or don't they stay up that late? Good luck.
Flanole 3 years ago
All through out Queensland there is a 3am lock out, which is around the time all the fights break out. I went to Melbourne earlier this year before the lock out trial went into effect and I never felt safer.
It comes down to the venues staff to curb violence, there have been a few nights, maybe more, where I could hardly stand up and still been served alcohol. Security staff need to have more co-operation with the police to move trouble makers on.
BrightsideO5 3 years ago
Brilliant video. A very badly though out policy and can cause more problems than it supposedly is supposed to solve.
kensington25 3 years ago
bad laws generate more problems than they solve
AECSRQ 3 years ago
Labour is gone!! Rees is a joke! People won't stand for extreme government intervention. I know that on the Gold Coast at 3am people spill out onto the streets and start biffs. Mind you the police presence in Surfers makes it slightly safer. And the cab situation is a joke cos everyone wants to go home once the clubs shut. I once had to hitch a ride from Surfers Paradise all the way to the Northern End of the coast. Alcohol makes for poor choices.... I know all too well.
ash23au 3 years ago
My observation would be to stop straight people drinking altogether, as they are clearly never happy when they are drunk
coollikeyodais 3 years ago
We (UK) changed about 2 years ago from no alcohol sales after 11pm, to pubs and clubs being able to apply for licences for any time in the day or night.
Hasn't made a lot of difference to us, but then we have trouble with a binge-drinking culture, where it's seen to be cool to get so drunk you don't remember anything the next day (which I've never understood.)
Thisisace 3 years ago
P.S. Don't panic. I'm just about to record my dancing clip in a moment.
Thisisace 3 years ago
first off.. like the hair today... secondly... sounds like they are making more problems... errr. In oklahoma, drinking clubs close at 2am, Hugs and Kisses, Ryan
QueerAsFaith 3 years ago
it's so stupid especially when Melbourne had just gotten results saying it didn't work. And I've had that pain with taxi's, end up walking half the way home, which felt a lot less safe.
I think some parts of Europe people go out much *later* not earlier, something a Spanish friend was saying comes to mind.
Liking the new hair too
therata 3 years ago
america alcohol sales are cut off at 2 am bars close shortly there after they call last call at like 130 and expect people to be out by 2 ive never experianced a fight but ive been drunkenly bumped into ..as fir your cute dance i think you should do the robot :) smooches chadchavez
chadchavez 3 years ago
I canada alcohol sales are cut off at 2am, and most bars close around 2:30-3:00 am, however "afterhours" bars do exist but do not serve alcohol. But because most bars close shortly after the cut off (the non-afterhours), they refuse entry after 2 am, and once you leave you can't get back in.
cizmoe 3 years ago
Here in manhattan you can pretty much get a drink any time of day or night. I think if bars just stay open it would help defuse things instead of everyone trying to get loaded by a certain hour and then all leaving at the same time. We don't seem to have that problem here. I wonder what the difference is? I haven't heard of any violence at the gay clubs or bars here. I feel safe walking home at any hour.
natureboywonder 3 years ago
What are the zoning laws like there? Are clubs free to open up in more safe parts of town? It seems like the government should be trying to figure out a way to make the streets/clubs safe instead just making everyone go home. This must be terrible for commerce.
natureboywonder 3 years ago
Come to Las Vegas 24 hours a day open...
fozzybear702 3 years ago
That is quite an interesting issue, my question is where is the opposition to the "lockout". It seems nonexistent. I live in the States and most bars/clubs stop serving alcohol at 2am but some can stay open for longer periods depending on the venue. So can't really say I've experienced anything like that.
g0LdBiZzLe 3 years ago
I hope I got this: After 2am you're not allowed to be on the street? Plus that the bars stop serving alcohol? Or just the alcohol thing?
Because if it is just the alcohol serving that stops, I think that's quite smart. In Norway the alcohol serving stops around 2 or 3 in the morning (I couldn't find the exact hour). I don't see a point in drinking 'till 5am. But if you can't be on the street after 2am... Where's the point? People isn't necessary wasted at 2am just because they're outside...
HMSunnyMH 3 years ago
well i am in the united states, and we have all our bars close at 2am, there are other clubs that stay open, but they do not sell alcohol after 2 but really by 2am we are usually ready to go home.... maybe we are used to going out earlier??? hope all is well in your part of the world!!
LivingOutinOKC 3 years ago
I've been to a couple of places that had strictly enforced curfews put in place by the government. Out in the street after a certain hour and you risk arrest or worse. All government restrictions on individual liberty stink but so does having your mates skull smashed with a beer bottle.
alloutacash 3 years ago
Why do people really need to be drinking at 2 am? I understand that you consider this to be dangerous with hooligans on the street, but quite frankly, at 2 am, people shouldn't be drinking. Yes, go out earlier. Order your drinks and finish them before 2 am.
nexttsar 3 years ago
I don't understand why governments feel the need to make decisions just to make the headlines. It doesn't help that they're using 2-year old data to make decisions. Luckily we don't have anything like that in the States. There are enough problems with the government and people following the laws that are set out as it is, we don't need anything to further the troubles.
GGahm 3 years ago