This guy is a cardinal cretin. Life-saving benefits? You can't die from a metaphysical illness. You can want to kill yourself, but the assumption that this metaphysical illness causes people to kill themselves is just a psychiatric belief that has hardened into dogma, and, of course, without an evidence-base. The drugs are generally taking decades off people's lives, and you call them lifesaving!
No amount of saying things like 'factual' and 'very real' Mr Anderson is going to change the fact that you are lying when you cunningly use these words, and a lie can't be concealed forever. Maybe he has been reading too many tendentious APA publications, or been going to Big Pharma sponsored symposia, either way, it is people like he who retard progress on this issue, and for doing this he is worthy only of contempt.
Yet this is not just because of what the longitudinal studies, the cross-cultural studies and cross-era studies have shown us about how poor patients fare in the long-term, but because drugs like the antipsychotics are implicated in an epidemic of neurodegenerative disorders.
The point that Wiseman makes, that some of the drugs in the psychiatric armamentarium cause violence, is probably an example of a cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Nevertheless, the outcomes literature for all psychiatric medications looking at their longitudinal impact on patients, shows that the psychopharmacological revolution is nothing more than an exttraordinarily popular delusion. The psychopharmacological paradigm of 'treatment' has been a disaster.
As for the point about whether it has helped anyone, of course it has, but if a man murders someone, or encroaches upon an individual's rights, this is not extenuated by his having helped other people. It is a fallacy of logic to say so, yet we suspend our critical judgement when discussing the sacred cows of psychiatry. What Anderson Anderson doesn't want us to see is that he considers psychiatry's victims as unpeople.
Yes, scientology is mostly nonsense, but the point is that psychiatrists have always reified their abstract 'diseases', in their pathetic desperation to be taken seriously scientifically and medically. The average scientiologist isn't imbued with the same embarrassing scientific and medical pretensions as the average ghosthunter, I'm sorry, I mean, astrologist, damn, done it again, I mean psychiatrist. Who will psychiatrize the psychiatrist's delusions, eh?
First off, 100,000 people isn't a small number, yet this is not some numerical game, but real lives we are talking about, yet this git trivialises this number. He also smuggles in a delusion as if it was fact, by describing the profession of psychiatry as a 'science', as if this was as apodictic as 2+2=5. Psychiatry is not a science, but a scientism, as any epistemological investigation of its scientifically bankrupt concepts will show.
The $cientology dude can't answer a simple question. We all know shock treatment is somewhat barbaric (on the frontal lobotomy scale) and Big Pharma is pushing drugs on the uninformed, but talk therapy too? Where are the sacred E-Meter tapes? Held in a vault for blackmailing purposes. No confidentiality agreement with Xenu.
Anderson Cooper is completely wrong on this. While I have nothing to do with scientology I do agree that psychiatrist and big pharma is full of crap. Medication is not a last resort in fact it's the first resort. If you go see a psychiatrist 99.99 of the time you will get prescribed with antidepressants.
Boy Anderson Cooper, you are so wrong on this one. You want facts: I'd like to jam a 30-day Haldol shot up your butt, and then hear you talk about facts.
No problem, they will force Haldol on anyone, why not on you?
If you think Psychiatry is so great, try taking 20mg of Haldol, and then let's talk about how your feel!!!
Drug are not last resort. You are always forced on drugs against your will as a first resort. You need to wake up and smell the coffee, Anderson!!!
@q8q007 Haldol, I've taken that pharmacological torture mechanism. One of the worst experiences of my life. It was used in the Soviet Union to torture dissidents, yet when used in our country, we use the euphemism, 'therapy'. Drugs like Haldol and Stelazine are some of the most toxic drugs in the entire pharmacopeia, screwing around with your extrapyramidal system, leading, as is the case with all psychiatric drugs in the longterm, to an iatrogenic illness. This Cooper character is a clown...
@EnturbulationStation CCHR doesn't equal scientology. It was co-founded with a non-scientologist, most of the experts are not scientologists, and many of the volunteers (me included) are not scientologists. The fact is that psychiatry is a hugely damaging pseudoscience, and I'm glad scientology is supporting the force against it.
Oh but CCHR does mean $cientology. Do some research for yourself and you'll find it's just another front group used to further L Ron Hubbard's philosophies about psychiatry and to keep the money flowing to the cult. You want pseudoscience? Then keep your eyes on Hubbard and the cult flim-flam shows like Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. You may not be a $cilon... yet.
"The mechanism of brainwashing which I gave you, with supercold mechanisms and so forth, is very well known, was used very extensively in the Maw Confederation of the Sixty-third Galaxy. They had a total psychiatric control of all of their officers and executives, and when they got tired of them they used this specific method of brainwashing."
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "SAM ZURICK" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
Well, I've just made a simple query in Google and found an article untitled
"Talk Doesn’t Pay, So Psychiatry Turns Instead to Drug Therapy", so it means that at least in the USA is now more profitable for Psychiatrists to prescribe drugs.
Of course there are surely some psychiatrists who still engage in Talk Therapy, but it is not the trend. In a few words most of them are like Big Pharma pushers now.
Very well done by Wiseman. Cooper is a demagogure when talking about talk therapy. It was abandonded for the biopsychiatric theory. Their is rarely a psychiatrist that is not a legal drug dealer of neurotooxins that cause chemical inbalance and brain damage, and child psychiatry is child abuse. Cooper is paid by people who are paid by the pharmaceutical drug cartels. The or no lab tests for mental illnessess so Cooper is a fanatic fundamentalist of mental health spurious paradigms.
Scientology is dangerous. It is all about money, greed and power. The means they use to accomplish their goals are brainwashing, threats and misinformation. I really hope someone intervenes before they get too powerful. Problem is that no journalist or powerful media figure (letterman, king, leno, stern etc.) is willing to go after these guys
Hah?? I had to google to find out what you were talking about! You're pretty involved if you use a term nobody knows except those involved in the cult.
No. Szasz is a real academic; Breggin studied under him at Syracuse University. All critiques of the negative aspects of SSRIs and other behavior/brain-altering prescriptions are not based on Scientology. You'll have to find another way to defend big pharma. See Ron Paul's Parental Consent Act 7563--think HE supports Scientology?...Pls...,
The CCHR is actually a front group for the Church of Scientology, much like The Way to Happiness, Applied Scholastics, Criminon, Narconon, and various other groups. Why are you so convinced the CCHR is not Scientology?
@EngramBT2 This is obviously an area you've done some research on; all I'll say is that my research indicates that Szasz is a legitimate scholar whose position about the catastrophically negative effects of SSRI and Ritalin over-prescription--particularly, to young children--is correct and commendable. Peter Breggin agrees with Szasz' findings, though each concludes slightly differently. Both assert that the use of these psychotropic agents is deeply destructive to the individual and society.
What you said still doesn't demonstrate what you said earlier. I was challenging the statement you made that "Szasz and CCHR are NOT associated with, in support of Scientology". All you've managed to prove is that Szasz is not in support of Scientology. But the CCHR ****IS**** Scientology, 100%. The CCHR is run by Scientologists and exploits psychiatric victims, posing as a human rights group when their purpose is to eradicate psychiatry from the planet as per L. Ron Hubbard.
@EngramBT2 Szasz is a co-founder of CCHR and his professional reputation is above reproach. It seems odd that he would continue to work with a group he co-founded if they were based on an organization (Scientology) that is,overall, FAR MORE detrimental to psychological freedom than the prescription drug process he decries. My focus is on alerting parents and teachers to the dangers of SSRIs, Ritalin, and related psychotropic drugs. Period.
And my focus is exposing Scientology's front groups, including the CCHR. You can say whatever you want about Szasz, but to say CCHR isn't at all affiliated with Scientology is false. Because the CCHR is affiliated with Scientology, they manufacture "evidence" that psychiatry kills, including blaming psychiatry for the Holocaust, World War II, and 9/11. Believe what you want about psychiatry, but don't give in to the lies of the Scientology-affiliated CCHR.
@EngramBT2 CCHR is not owned by the Church of Scientology. It's a Commission to handle the abuses in the field of Mental health co-founded by the Church and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, in 1969. That's irrelevant anyway since it's completely secular. This attempt to "label" CCHR as Scientology is a direct propaganda campaign by Big Pharma. Look up Gwen Stevenson, ex Pharma rep. Saying it's Scientoloyg is like saying that you should ignore Red Cross founded by catholcChurch
If you think the CCHR and the Church of Scientology are separate entities, you are naive.
The Red Cross analogy fails because you don't see the Red Cross distributing Catholic materials.
Jan Eastgate, president of the CCHR in Australia, was arrested for covering up a child molestation case. She advised the victim to lie to the police, and lying is a training routine in Scientology. The CCHR and Scientology are one and the same.
@midrid63 PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO BACK UP SOMETHING THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE THEY THINK IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THEM LIKE BEING SAD THEY NEED A PSYCHIATRIST TO GIVE THEM A MAGIC CURE...
Szasz and CCHR are NOT associated with, in support of Scientology. See the disclaimer at Szasz' site -- szasz dot com. I'm sure the pharma companies love (or foster) the inferred relationship, though. Discredit your critic and the critique is dismantled. Well done, big pharma...
You call this an interview? Anderson Cooper, a shill for the mainstream media that, owned and operated by the Council on Foreign Relations (check the journalism big-wigs in their membership) and the globalist New World Order NEVER lets Mr. Wiseman finish a sentence and repeatedly butts in always to push whatever contradiction and blatant lie he can muster. This is certainly NOT objective journalism. Anderson Cooper has an agenda here to attack and stop any real truth Mr. Wiseman has to offer.
@MrBobodrum So what? Mr. Wiseman was the one doing nothing but spewing out lies in the interview, I applaud Mr. Cooper for exposing the "church" of $cientology for the fraud that it is. The truth is out about your so-called "church", and nothing you MrBob or your OSA buddies can say is gonna change that. If i'm wrong then please go right ahead and tell everyone how the church helped Lisa McPherson. Anyone else reading this just google "Lisa Mcpherson" to see what I mean.
@MrBobodrum just like most scientology interviews (ie. Heber, Miscavige and this one), they don;t back up anything they say, they all say these pre-written answers. watch Jason Beghe's interview to hear his experience with CCHR and how they couldn't answer any of his questions.
Kaja Bordevich Ballo, a Norwegian girl studying in Nice, France, died 28 March 2008, a few hours after taking the worthless “find their ruin” Oxford Capacity Analysis given by the Church of Scientology. She was told it showed she had an inadequate personality. She did not know that this is the standard diagnosis. She was the daughter of Olav Gunnar Ballo, a member of the Norwegian Parliament
John Breedlove was at Flag Land base in the 1970s. He told his mother he had been told by Scientology to commit suicide and that Scientology could get anyone to commit suicide if they wanted. He killed himself after he left Scientology.
Gregory S. Bashaw, 46, a successful journalist and OT7, who committed suicide in his car on 23 June 2001 after 20 years of Scientology courses, auditing and training. He was having a problem with body thetans and could not accept the help of anyone outside Scientology, but Scientology, having got him into a mess, did not want to know anything about him. Greg was a talented, very lovable person who left behind a wife and teenage son. But he died broke
it is true there is no test at all for a chemical imbalance in the brain its just a an opinion that maybe that is the cause if maybe an imbalance is possible, then that would cause this. in reality its just in my opinion 99% of the time emotional and you need to resolve your worries and get a reality check thats all but for ocd for example meds are good for helping or terrets for example.
@imcrazy85 Chemical imbalance is something people say when they try to vaguely tell someone what's going on without giving too much detail. Digging a little deeper, what goes on in the brain is fascinating. If you understand the way the brain works its really clear why drugs to the things they do.
it is not a science but it does help and is needed. is all therapy science? for example having a talk is theraputic. the problem is some evil people with an agenda get into good concepts to use and take advantage of it. there is no exam test to diagnose mental illness unless it has a physical sign but then its more of a nuerological issue not emotional
Wel'p, there's another head in the clouds person who helped push religion away from me, especially when he said "...there is no chemical imbalance". This guy obviously has no clue about depression, schizophrenia, anxiety, bipolar disorder. Oh wait... that's right, it's demons or negative energy waves spilling over into our realm from some other outworldly dimension or planet or something just as equally rediculous
@berner Well I highly doubt it is only chemical imbalances. How irresponsible are you that you consider everything is caused by chemical imbalances. You probably got slightly upset at the comment I just made. If a chemical changed that caused you to be upset than that was the result of something else going on. The same thing could be said of somebody that becomes depressed. Something happened in his life, maybe chemicals changed but that surely wasn't the original problem.
@Cybernerd9000 Well seeing as I'm someone who suffers from anxiety and depression, and taking Celexa for them, I would agree that my psychological illness is caused by not just a chemical imbalance, but also a reaction to similar events in my adult hood that stem from repeated exposure to being bullied. I'd personally put my trust in the scientific method for determining how the brain works as opposed to some creationist trying to determine the will of something that I don't believe exists.
@berner If science really did have it figured out then they would not be creating new labels all the time and coming out with new drugs. The Diagnostics and Statistics Manual has thousands of labels for Mental Disorders. If a woman is upset because her brother just died than that is a form of Bipolar Disorder. So you are telling me it is healthy for a woman to not be upset? It is called being human. All these drugs just dull peoples senses so they don't experience pain. Might as well smoke pot.
this guy is hilarious, omg he sounds like such a fool as much as I dislike AC all i can say is you go boy, why can't this guy say why talk therapy is bad?
amazing how he is critical of what "pretends to be a science'. hubbard made up from his wacky mind EVERYTHING scientology preaches. there was never any 'science' behind scientology practices. how frustrating - now wheres my bottle of niacin!?!
Also, lots of people died in the trials for taking drugs like Risperdal and Zyprexa, something I'm sure Anderson has remained studiously ignorant of.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
This guy is a cardinal cretin. Life-saving benefits? You can't die from a metaphysical illness. You can want to kill yourself, but the assumption that this metaphysical illness causes people to kill themselves is just a psychiatric belief that has hardened into dogma, and, of course, without an evidence-base. The drugs are generally taking decades off people's lives, and you call them lifesaving!
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
No amount of saying things like 'factual' and 'very real' Mr Anderson is going to change the fact that you are lying when you cunningly use these words, and a lie can't be concealed forever. Maybe he has been reading too many tendentious APA publications, or been going to Big Pharma sponsored symposia, either way, it is people like he who retard progress on this issue, and for doing this he is worthy only of contempt.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
Yet this is not just because of what the longitudinal studies, the cross-cultural studies and cross-era studies have shown us about how poor patients fare in the long-term, but because drugs like the antipsychotics are implicated in an epidemic of neurodegenerative disorders.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
The point that Wiseman makes, that some of the drugs in the psychiatric armamentarium cause violence, is probably an example of a cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Nevertheless, the outcomes literature for all psychiatric medications looking at their longitudinal impact on patients, shows that the psychopharmacological revolution is nothing more than an exttraordinarily popular delusion. The psychopharmacological paradigm of 'treatment' has been a disaster.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
As for the point about whether it has helped anyone, of course it has, but if a man murders someone, or encroaches upon an individual's rights, this is not extenuated by his having helped other people. It is a fallacy of logic to say so, yet we suspend our critical judgement when discussing the sacred cows of psychiatry. What Anderson Anderson doesn't want us to see is that he considers psychiatry's victims as unpeople.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
Yes, scientology is mostly nonsense, but the point is that psychiatrists have always reified their abstract 'diseases', in their pathetic desperation to be taken seriously scientifically and medically. The average scientiologist isn't imbued with the same embarrassing scientific and medical pretensions as the average ghosthunter, I'm sorry, I mean, astrologist, damn, done it again, I mean psychiatrist. Who will psychiatrize the psychiatrist's delusions, eh?
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
First off, 100,000 people isn't a small number, yet this is not some numerical game, but real lives we are talking about, yet this git trivialises this number. He also smuggles in a delusion as if it was fact, by describing the profession of psychiatry as a 'science', as if this was as apodictic as 2+2=5. Psychiatry is not a science, but a scientism, as any epistemological investigation of its scientifically bankrupt concepts will show.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
The $cientology dude can't answer a simple question. We all know shock treatment is somewhat barbaric (on the frontal lobotomy scale) and Big Pharma is pushing drugs on the uninformed, but talk therapy too? Where are the sacred E-Meter tapes? Held in a vault for blackmailing purposes. No confidentiality agreement with Xenu.
bumcheek7 2 months ago
If you really listen to Bruce you will than realize that he is making a lot of sense. Psychiatry and big pharma is a total scam and fraud.
tien714 2 months ago
Anderson Cooper is completely wrong on this. While I have nothing to do with scientology I do agree that psychiatrist and big pharma is full of crap. Medication is not a last resort in fact it's the first resort. If you go see a psychiatrist 99.99 of the time you will get prescribed with antidepressants.
tien714 3 months ago
Boy Anderson Cooper, you are so wrong on this one. You want facts: I'd like to jam a 30-day Haldol shot up your butt, and then hear you talk about facts.
No problem, they will force Haldol on anyone, why not on you?
If you think Psychiatry is so great, try taking 20mg of Haldol, and then let's talk about how your feel!!!
Drug are not last resort. You are always forced on drugs against your will as a first resort. You need to wake up and smell the coffee, Anderson!!!
q8q007 3 months ago
@q8q007 Haldol, I've taken that pharmacological torture mechanism. One of the worst experiences of my life. It was used in the Soviet Union to torture dissidents, yet when used in our country, we use the euphemism, 'therapy'. Drugs like Haldol and Stelazine are some of the most toxic drugs in the entire pharmacopeia, screwing around with your extrapyramidal system, leading, as is the case with all psychiatric drugs in the longterm, to an iatrogenic illness. This Cooper character is a clown...
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
@Transmintosity ...only without makeup, but still a clown nevertheless.
Transmintosity 4 weeks ago
Cooper = logic and critical thinking
Wiseman = brainwashed cultie saying the same thing over and over
CCHR = $cientology (that's why Kelly Preston, Michelle Stafford and Kirstie Alley hoof their way around holding the CCHR banners)
EnturbulationStation 3 months ago
@EnturbulationStation CCHR doesn't equal scientology. It was co-founded with a non-scientologist, most of the experts are not scientologists, and many of the volunteers (me included) are not scientologists. The fact is that psychiatry is a hugely damaging pseudoscience, and I'm glad scientology is supporting the force against it.
TMOvids 3 months ago
@TMOvids
Oh but CCHR does mean $cientology. Do some research for yourself and you'll find it's just another front group used to further L Ron Hubbard's philosophies about psychiatry and to keep the money flowing to the cult. You want pseudoscience? Then keep your eyes on Hubbard and the cult flim-flam shows like Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. You may not be a $cilon... yet.
EnturbulationStation 3 months ago
"The mechanism of brainwashing which I gave you, with supercold mechanisms and so forth, is very well known, was used very extensively in the Maw Confederation of the Sixty-third Galaxy. They had a total psychiatric control of all of their officers and executives, and when they got tired of them they used this specific method of brainwashing."
- Ron Hubbard, leader of church of scientology
persianelephant 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "SAM ZURICK" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
peopledick 3 months ago
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pacer91345 3 months ago
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pacer91345 3 months ago
Well, I've just made a simple query in Google and found an article untitled
"Talk Doesn’t Pay, So Psychiatry Turns Instead to Drug Therapy", so it means that at least in the USA is now more profitable for Psychiatrists to prescribe drugs.
Of course there are surely some psychiatrists who still engage in Talk Therapy, but it is not the trend. In a few words most of them are like Big Pharma pushers now.
Elrix75 3 months ago
Very well done by Wiseman. Cooper is a demagogure when talking about talk therapy. It was abandonded for the biopsychiatric theory. Their is rarely a psychiatrist that is not a legal drug dealer of neurotooxins that cause chemical inbalance and brain damage, and child psychiatry is child abuse. Cooper is paid by people who are paid by the pharmaceutical drug cartels. The or no lab tests for mental illnessess so Cooper is a fanatic fundamentalist of mental health spurious paradigms.
jlmelramos 4 months ago
Antidepressants and Psychiatrist are a freaking scam. Suicide rates goes up and homicides goes up.
tien714 4 months ago
Scientology is dangerous. It is all about money, greed and power. The means they use to accomplish their goals are brainwashing, threats and misinformation. I really hope someone intervenes before they get too powerful. Problem is that no journalist or powerful media figure (letterman, king, leno, stern etc.) is willing to go after these guys
TomTrix99 4 months ago
hmmm why does bruce make me think of the old quote from mythbusters "i reject your reality and substitute my own"
np02058 4 months ago
Hah?? I had to google to find out what you were talking about! You're pretty involved if you use a term nobody knows except those involved in the cult.
No. Szasz is a real academic; Breggin studied under him at Syracuse University. All critiques of the negative aspects of SSRIs and other behavior/brain-altering prescriptions are not based on Scientology. You'll have to find another way to defend big pharma. See Ron Paul's Parental Consent Act 7563--think HE supports Scientology?...Pls...,
midrid63 4 months ago
@midrid63
The CCHR is actually a front group for the Church of Scientology, much like The Way to Happiness, Applied Scholastics, Criminon, Narconon, and various other groups. Why are you so convinced the CCHR is not Scientology?
EngramBT2 4 months ago
@EngramBT2 This is obviously an area you've done some research on; all I'll say is that my research indicates that Szasz is a legitimate scholar whose position about the catastrophically negative effects of SSRI and Ritalin over-prescription--particularly, to young children--is correct and commendable. Peter Breggin agrees with Szasz' findings, though each concludes slightly differently. Both assert that the use of these psychotropic agents is deeply destructive to the individual and society.
midrid63 4 months ago
@midrid63
What you said still doesn't demonstrate what you said earlier. I was challenging the statement you made that "Szasz and CCHR are NOT associated with, in support of Scientology". All you've managed to prove is that Szasz is not in support of Scientology. But the CCHR ****IS**** Scientology, 100%. The CCHR is run by Scientologists and exploits psychiatric victims, posing as a human rights group when their purpose is to eradicate psychiatry from the planet as per L. Ron Hubbard.
EngramBT2 4 months ago
@EngramBT2 Szasz is a co-founder of CCHR and his professional reputation is above reproach. It seems odd that he would continue to work with a group he co-founded if they were based on an organization (Scientology) that is,overall, FAR MORE detrimental to psychological freedom than the prescription drug process he decries. My focus is on alerting parents and teachers to the dangers of SSRIs, Ritalin, and related psychotropic drugs. Period.
midrid63 4 months ago
@midrid63
And my focus is exposing Scientology's front groups, including the CCHR. You can say whatever you want about Szasz, but to say CCHR isn't at all affiliated with Scientology is false. Because the CCHR is affiliated with Scientology, they manufacture "evidence" that psychiatry kills, including blaming psychiatry for the Holocaust, World War II, and 9/11. Believe what you want about psychiatry, but don't give in to the lies of the Scientology-affiliated CCHR.
EngramBT2 4 months ago
@EngramBT2 CCHR is not owned by the Church of Scientology. It's a Commission to handle the abuses in the field of Mental health co-founded by the Church and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, in 1969. That's irrelevant anyway since it's completely secular. This attempt to "label" CCHR as Scientology is a direct propaganda campaign by Big Pharma. Look up Gwen Stevenson, ex Pharma rep. Saying it's Scientoloyg is like saying that you should ignore Red Cross founded by catholcChurch
pacer91345 3 months ago
@pacer91345
If you think the CCHR and the Church of Scientology are separate entities, you are naive.
The Red Cross analogy fails because you don't see the Red Cross distributing Catholic materials.
Jan Eastgate, president of the CCHR in Australia, was arrested for covering up a child molestation case. She advised the victim to lie to the police, and lying is a training routine in Scientology. The CCHR and Scientology are one and the same.
EngramBT2 3 months ago 3
@midrid63 PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO BACK UP SOMETHING THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE THEY THINK IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THEM LIKE BEING SAD THEY NEED A PSYCHIATRIST TO GIVE THEM A MAGIC CURE...
pacer91345 3 months ago
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pacer91345 3 months ago
Szasz and CCHR are NOT associated with, in support of Scientology. See the disclaimer at Szasz' site -- szasz dot com. I'm sure the pharma companies love (or foster) the inferred relationship, though. Discredit your critic and the critique is dismantled. Well done, big pharma...
midrid63 4 months ago
@midrid63 yes they are, what re ya, some $cilon shill?
Rockster969 4 months ago
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Acharmye 4 months ago
This guy doesn't know what science is. Period.
194jms 5 months ago
This man doesnt answer AC questions.
416mcp 5 months ago
You call this an interview? Anderson Cooper, a shill for the mainstream media that, owned and operated by the Council on Foreign Relations (check the journalism big-wigs in their membership) and the globalist New World Order NEVER lets Mr. Wiseman finish a sentence and repeatedly butts in always to push whatever contradiction and blatant lie he can muster. This is certainly NOT objective journalism. Anderson Cooper has an agenda here to attack and stop any real truth Mr. Wiseman has to offer.
MrBobodrum 5 months ago
@MrBobodrum So what? Mr. Wiseman was the one doing nothing but spewing out lies in the interview, I applaud Mr. Cooper for exposing the "church" of $cientology for the fraud that it is. The truth is out about your so-called "church", and nothing you MrBob or your OSA buddies can say is gonna change that. If i'm wrong then please go right ahead and tell everyone how the church helped Lisa McPherson. Anyone else reading this just google "Lisa Mcpherson" to see what I mean.
sdsuman1 5 months ago
@MrBobodrum just like most scientology interviews (ie. Heber, Miscavige and this one), they don;t back up anything they say, they all say these pre-written answers. watch Jason Beghe's interview to hear his experience with CCHR and how they couldn't answer any of his questions.
sonoilluminati666 5 months ago
psychiatry has failed always. chemical and physical lobatamies are barbaric.... end of our civilization by psychiatrists?. yup.
SuperDelta000 5 months ago
Anderson Cooper attacks Scientology. Must be an SP. What are his crimes? Probably putting his finger in too many light-sockets. trololol
notasympathist 5 months ago
Um.....this guy isn´t even listening to Cooper!? Must have been reeeeally frustrating for Andersson to interview this guy!
jesperjee 5 months ago
Based on a flasehood......hmm, he oughta know
Resenbrink 5 months ago
Kaja Bordevich Ballo, a Norwegian girl studying in Nice, France, died 28 March 2008, a few hours after taking the worthless “find their ruin” Oxford Capacity Analysis given by the Church of Scientology. She was told it showed she had an inadequate personality. She did not know that this is the standard diagnosis. She was the daughter of Olav Gunnar Ballo, a member of the Norwegian Parliament
jnycnuk 6 months ago 2
John Breedlove was at Flag Land base in the 1970s. He told his mother he had been told by Scientology to commit suicide and that Scientology could get anyone to commit suicide if they wanted. He killed himself after he left Scientology.
jnycnuk 6 months ago 2
Gregory S. Bashaw, 46, a successful journalist and OT7, who committed suicide in his car on 23 June 2001 after 20 years of Scientology courses, auditing and training. He was having a problem with body thetans and could not accept the help of anyone outside Scientology, but Scientology, having got him into a mess, did not want to know anything about him. Greg was a talented, very lovable person who left behind a wife and teenage son. But he died broke
jnycnuk 6 months ago 2
I agree with Bruce Wiseman these medications are harmful however I am not associated with scientology.
tien714 6 months ago
it is true there is no test at all for a chemical imbalance in the brain its just a an opinion that maybe that is the cause if maybe an imbalance is possible, then that would cause this. in reality its just in my opinion 99% of the time emotional and you need to resolve your worries and get a reality check thats all but for ocd for example meds are good for helping or terrets for example.
imcrazy85 7 months ago
@imcrazy85 Chemical imbalance is something people say when they try to vaguely tell someone what's going on without giving too much detail. Digging a little deeper, what goes on in the brain is fascinating. If you understand the way the brain works its really clear why drugs to the things they do.
cdoftx 6 months ago
@cdoftx agreed but emotions trigger chems in the brain that therapy not meds can help with controling that chem by controling the emtion
imcrazy85 6 months ago
@imcrazy85 True
cdoftx 6 months ago
it is not a science but it does help and is needed. is all therapy science? for example having a talk is theraputic. the problem is some evil people with an agenda get into good concepts to use and take advantage of it. there is no exam test to diagnose mental illness unless it has a physical sign but then its more of a nuerological issue not emotional
imcrazy85 7 months ago
Wel'p, there's another head in the clouds person who helped push religion away from me, especially when he said "...there is no chemical imbalance". This guy obviously has no clue about depression, schizophrenia, anxiety, bipolar disorder. Oh wait... that's right, it's demons or negative energy waves spilling over into our realm from some other outworldly dimension or planet or something just as equally rediculous
berner 8 months ago
@berner Well I highly doubt it is only chemical imbalances. How irresponsible are you that you consider everything is caused by chemical imbalances. You probably got slightly upset at the comment I just made. If a chemical changed that caused you to be upset than that was the result of something else going on. The same thing could be said of somebody that becomes depressed. Something happened in his life, maybe chemicals changed but that surely wasn't the original problem.
Cybernerd9000 8 months ago
@Cybernerd9000 Well seeing as I'm someone who suffers from anxiety and depression, and taking Celexa for them, I would agree that my psychological illness is caused by not just a chemical imbalance, but also a reaction to similar events in my adult hood that stem from repeated exposure to being bullied. I'd personally put my trust in the scientific method for determining how the brain works as opposed to some creationist trying to determine the will of something that I don't believe exists.
berner 8 months ago
@berner If science really did have it figured out then they would not be creating new labels all the time and coming out with new drugs. The Diagnostics and Statistics Manual has thousands of labels for Mental Disorders. If a woman is upset because her brother just died than that is a form of Bipolar Disorder. So you are telling me it is healthy for a woman to not be upset? It is called being human. All these drugs just dull peoples senses so they don't experience pain. Might as well smoke pot.
Cybernerd9000 8 months ago
this guy is hilarious, omg he sounds like such a fool as much as I dislike AC all i can say is you go boy, why can't this guy say why talk therapy is bad?
MOSSMAN125 8 months ago
this guy is hilarious, omg he sounds like such a fool as much as I dislike AC all i can say is you go boy
MOSSMAN125 8 months ago
ROFL. One time ... only one time do I want to see a $ciloon giving a straight answer to a question.
mollie2810 8 months ago
this Bruce Wiseman is a complete tool !!!! please don't pay any attention to him !!
fzappa007 9 months ago
$cientology pretends to be a religion, but ITS NOT!! what's your point douche-bag?
fzappa007 9 months ago
''Comminucation is the universal solvent""
That is a statement from L.Ron Hubbard.
Only most scientologists dont communicate to others.
Most of them walk away like cowards when they are confronted.
worshiphim11 9 months ago
amazing how he is critical of what "pretends to be a science'. hubbard made up from his wacky mind EVERYTHING scientology preaches. there was never any 'science' behind scientology practices. how frustrating - now wheres my bottle of niacin!?!
jas22 9 months ago
Suicide? How many $cientologists have committed suicide?
Asshole.
arayalrio 9 months ago