Room clearing

[Mrswaggersloth]

first two guys to go into the room are dead, neather one of them had any idea what was to the left, the first guy did what he was asposed to do( he had his "slice of the pie"), however the second guy was compleatly wrong he should have had the left side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!

[1cme1]

@Mrswaggersloth the second guy did have the left side, were you cross eyed watching this video kid?

[genjuroukyo]

first and second man should be near shoulder to shoulder upon entering to enter almost at the same second as the other. it took about a year of army drill 6 for us to get it down almost perfect though, but nothing is perfect. great video.

[OgamiItto70]

Here's some constructive criticism: The first man in (if he survived) should have cleared the last corner--SLOWLY, none of this "onetwothreeGO!" crap--since he is left handed and would therefore present less target to a possible bad guy back there before his muzzle would be covering/shooting said bad guy.

[John234pwns]

That was a pretty clean drill, slow, but clean. Have these guys practiced three and two man clearing drills?

[MrPorteporte]

Only two minors issues. 1- The first could've cheated a bit and slice the door ahead, shoot No1 target, then, instead of taking place 1, take place 4, so basically, clearing the hole room mostly.

So it goes, squeeze, target pak pak, go right target pak pak. If the first target is still up, we'll the 3 other coming in.

Not saying they've done it wrong, just how I would've done it.

[0402gavin]

man the second guy going to the end of the room is terrible. he had the rifle posted on his right shoulder when looking around that wall to the right. christ if you cant shoot with both arms dont use a gun. if you have the rifle posted on your left shoulder you would have a better angle to turn that corner. hope that poor lead man doesnt have you behind him or its a body bag for both of you.

[John234pwns]

@0402gavin People shoot better with their dominant side. And I hope you realize that when you clear a room like this, you're supposed to be in the doorway for the least amount of time possible - pieing off that door doesn't matter, so your shooting side really doesn't matter either.

[0402gavin]

man the second guy going to the end of the room is terrible. he had the rifle posted on his right shoulder when looking around that wall to the right. christ if you cant shoot with both arms dont use a gun. if you have the rifle posted on your left shoulder you would have a better angle to turn that corner. hope that poor lead man doesnt have you behind him or its a body bad for both of you.

[Monseigneurlechat]

haha

I like that target check with the double tap two fingers in the eyes, that's ninja course!

:)

[vuur150]

Cheap targets

[Thanato26]

@vuur150 Fig. 11 is the standard CF Target, its cheap and easy to make and looks like a man.

~Thanato

[vulcanraven224]

that was a fail

[brianobx]

Great vid,, thanks for uploading

[Tino6007]

Overall, the tactics look solid. This is the walk-through/talk-through stage I assume, because at combat speed all the guns would be in at around 2 seconds. My unit does it with 123 at high ready and 4 at low (muzzle aware of course) and the whole team is inside under 3 seconds. The way you guys pie the corners is interesting, worth looking into on my end.

[WarfighterCapable]

@Tino6007 Hmmm... I don't think thats called pieing corners... The U.S. Army calls that the high low, Usually used when about to look down a hallway.

[Soaker1231]

@WarfighterCapable slicing the pie is a different tactic altogether its where you sorta shuffke along looking into a room to pick up threats.

[WarfighterCapable]

@Soaker1231 Yea I know xP, Its what I said I guess I wrote it confusingly..... What they did here is the hi low, but pieing a corner is just as you said, I was replying to a guy who thought this vid was a form of pieing a corner.

[Galeous]

fuck the flash bang as soon as they hear that there friends are going to be on them in a second and the flashbanged dude in the corner is going to be spraying like mad. 1 grenade through that window and they were all DEAD the first dude that walked in DEAD the second man was fighting for his life while the rest of the squad were getting DEMOLISHED by the second. check both sides of the door if it's open. throw one of those doctors cameras on the ground take a few seconds before enetering

[Galeous]

@Galeous you'd be ten times safer with 2 men going through the door with eachothers backs that way every coner can be covered, police work uses pistols, military I'd say 2 uzis obviously an uzi isnt the best wepon, but :P it is cheaper. To use but it's light and one handed 2 men could have cleared that whole room with 2 shots in the corners each. simply you should be predicting where they are before you go in. 1 handed wepons give more flexibility then assault wepons ever could

[williamLongino]

@Galeous ... If you think you should be predicting where they are before you go in. YOU WILL DIE! The only thing you should be focused on is your slice of the pie. So you would rather stack up on a room carrying a pistol as opposed to an M4? Have fun with that!

[AfroKing505]

0:24 should of "sliced the pie" much safer.

[MrgnUTube]

The first and the second man are over immediatly :/

[wilde1]

first guy coming in didnt even check his left, pretty sure he woulda got it tho i know theyre only drilling. control the room right? sucks always to be the first guy in.

[Orthrus]

@wilde1

He's not supposed to check the left, his backup is supposed to. If he goes left, and there's a threat right, he's fucked. And if he's fucked, the guy behind him doesn't get in, and everyone's fucked.

The whole point is that you cover only your own sector, guy behind you will cover your back. They're moving slow to train and practice, when they move fast it all works out.

[Tino6007]

@Orthrus correct, 1 and 2 man clear the FF and focus on their sectors. Usually, Wilde, unless they know you're coming 3 and 4 man get capped. IFF the 1 and 2 [don't] do their jobs right.

[NewChristianSoldiers]

I saw the first three going down dead as a door nail. If the two had survived that cleared that closet, well, the one would have definitely had his right leg blown off!!

It's called "slicing the pie" trying using it, it works! hahahaha

[fwahoovaghad]

@NewChristianSoldiers Yes but on the other hand, that would require them to shoot.

What if there is a civilian in that closet? They have to be careful for stuff like that.

Good idea though! :)

[fwahoovaghad]

@NewChristianSoldiers And yeah, I was being serious. It is a good idea, if you KNOW there isn't a civilian.

[geva90]

bad work, the first get in is dead

[sniperRobert]

the second guy must look only on the left. he should't care about what is straight, because that's not his sector, and now every one in his tem is "dead"

[mullyscans]

# 2 man needs to be much faster,close the gap!

[sgtjoe2008]

vid poster said its their first day at room entry, so understandably a bit slow, but done quicker and they're like all inside at the same time...each man has his own sector of fire like 1st man will clear whats on the right, whats on the left of the door will be 2nd mans job and for straight ahead of the door 3rd and 4th man will clear it...its teamwork and you have to rely on each other, if 1st man will violate his sector and start firing to the left he may accidentally kill 2nd man

[RTQuinn001]

First man through the door is dead for not seeing the enemy standing there.. You can slow it down and make all the excuses you like! His widow will get a flag in a real time enviorment.

[cachorrin123]

POINT MAN IS NEVER WRONG !!!! IF HE GETS SHOT OH WELL !!! THAT IS WHY WE SIGNED UP 4 THE JOB !!! IT SUCKS 2 B THE POINT MAN !!! BUT A LITTLE CRITICISM ... 2ND MAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE FASTER IN THE ENTRANCE COVERING THE POINTMAN'S BACK.

[soldier173rdABN]

1man should have button hooked to his left

[krookedshocker]

They taught us the first man cuts left..... Hmmm Still..... Good training everyone was where they needed to be and executed it.

[jimnumberuno]

its called strong wall FYI, the way the room was cleared

[pdicestunnerz]

that first guy would be dead lol i dont care what people say about armour, if that guy had a shot gun or machine gun he would have been toast lol

[quityourfuckincryin]

Not exactly smooth or fast but at least they suck. Sweet eye poking though.

[benja1709]

omg that was way too slow good it was training

[williamLongino]

There ya go, poke him in the eye's, that'll teach him! Curly couldn't have done it better himself!!!

[2ndSCR]

@williamLongino .Ha Ha thats funny! The three stoodges was the first thing that came to mind when I saw that!

[nogutsnoglory1990]

these guys suck entry slow 1 man was in point of dominance before 2 man even broke the plane of the door 3 man is a dun da da this must have been a basic training outfit.

[supercooldudeism]

@nogutsnoglory1990 , no shit...

[LinkedMooMan117117]

Good job if ur still new to room clearing. A little practice, and speed can get added to it.

[xx117711xx]

airsoft guns

[supercooldudeism]

@xx117711xx , simmunition

[djdevelope32]

point man can go anywhere he wants. point man is never wrong.

[Rifleman452]

right on brother

[CT3i]

Strong wall entry.

-No points of domination.

-No "L-shape"

-Good use of two man team to clear a "red-zone"; but should have gone one-low, one-high.

[swaggerbob5]

the way to stop a rapid entry like that is to have a clamore rigged up behind a wall of thin drywall and set like a 3 second delay on it to opening the door so it will go off once at least four people are in the room.

[supercooldudeism]

@swaggerbob5 , thanks ya fuk! keep that info coming u piece o ...

[TheInfantrygrunt]

statistically speaking, according to the army center for lessons learned, the second man is the most likely to be shot. It is for one simple reason. There is going to be a delayed reaction from the people in the room, and the point man will have gotten out of the "fatal funnel" by the time the enemy is able to take aim, and the second man is still in the funnel

[Rifleman452]

Good point. But if they know people are going to come in, the first person is basically sad to say the " bullet shield" for the rest.

[supercooldudeism]

@Rifleman452 , umm, ANA, ahaha

[mrcheetos]

This is training. probably just getting the motions down before going in super fast.

I would assume the option of clearing a room would be viable if you had the element of surprise already. Yeah, the enemy was to the first guys immediate left, but what if that enemy had been sitting there doing whatever bad guys do in a room? By the time he tries to pull his weapon out to fire, he's either been shot, or apprehended by the second man in.

[crazyaznpower12]

Is it always the first person the one that has the highest percentage of getting shot? Because the ppl inside would be aiming for him first then the second guys

[contractor9009]

perdy much so. also the fact that when he started coming through that door, he was facing the wall, and diddnt even acknowledge the blind spot to his immediate left. He should have just automatically swept to the left considering he could already see the right side wall.

[contractor9009]

in real combat, without the use of a flash bang or a stun grenade, that first man would have PROBABLY been dead. Look where he looked as soon as he entered, then look where the perp was located

[P0rkkana91]

... and the first man is in the room 2 sec before the second man clears his sector...

[P0rkkana91]

If they have the element of suprise this would work, but if the enemy is prepared the first man would be down. The room clearing is very slow, but this is just training.

[fng2089ng]

that man in the corner would have shot up the first two men right off the bat because first off im not sure if they did or not, but if there was no grenade upon entering the room they have already failed room clearing, flashbangs should have been deplyoyed, the man in the corner would have been disabled for the moments notice then they could have gotten the jump on that whole room... in second case the first man would in fact be dead

[Physigines]

aye for sure. I'm not sure why but they also swept the easy corner first. if they had engaged the harder corner (the one where you have to swing a full 180*) they would have been more effective. also, when taking corners they should have led with the other hand instead of exposing their entire bodies. that and his partner should have covered on the other shoulder. and yes... flashbangs flashbangs flashbangs

[contractor9009]

exactly

[keneke45]

wait...isnt first man supposed to take tight corner? the first man get the guy at the entering side, which is left, second gets far wall, and third sweep with the first and second. ive taken cqb training, and thats what they taught us.

[corpsvet71]

call in the corpsman, first man in is down.

[Natthesplatt]

Yeah, P1 always goes the opposite angle of the approach.

'Cause you know. You open that door, and you can see the fucker if he's hiding over there.

[bellamoon0207]

my dad was dave goodrich and was in 3rcr

[tbgallien]

I'm not seeing any high low concept. hence the post before mine. Always take the long wall corner, and the second man must get his rifle in the door.

[sjerseyb856]

finally someone who knows what they are talking about..these airsoft people always thumb me down when i try to tell them the importance of CLEARING THE CORNERS FIRST. clear the corners then sweep middle

[paternos]

the first man is death ahauhua...

[2ndSCR]

Just curious, is it SOP to poke a combatant, or in this case cardboard cutout in the eyeballs to confirm he isn't getting back up??? Do you make noise's like the three stooges afterwards!!! And yes i'm giving you a hardtime!

[B9ckFl1p]

dude....is a fucking training video, give it a break.

[escom669]

7 END 9 SECOND 2 CT DEAD AHAHHAHAAH

[murany06]

These guys suck. I've seen boot as p.o.g.s do far better. they just move unnatural, like their bodies are retarded.

[cuecumber22]

The 1st guy would have died by the tango the 2nd guy shot... I agree with you.

[ben12342666]

in room clearing if you're sectors too the right and your 2nd mans sector is too the left (like in this video) if you see a contact on your left you keep to your sector and leave him your 2nd man will engage him. you have to trust him with your life or else if you go in there and take care of buddys sector your gonna fuck everything up and shoot ur 2nd man.

i havent done my CQC training yet in the CF but im pretty sure thats how it works dude.

[sjerseyb856]

If you havent done your cqb training yet then dont post.. any way it is better to sum it up as first two guys in the room clear their corners, then 3 and 4sweep middle

[RocketRitch88]

Bud, Your making room clearing a little more difficult than it needs to be. The #1 Man is Never Wrong. If it is a Corner Fed Room the #1 Man clears the first point of domination and holds. Center Fed Room the #1 Man clears the first and second points of domination then holds. Stack and Clear, Room to Room, Floor to Floor, Building to Building. Does that make sense?

[WayneP93]

Thats all fucked up from the moment they entered the room

[ReZeN187]

ok for the last time if this were a live OP then any mutherfucking raghead sumbitch in that room wouldnt know up from down until the moment their fucking eyeballs were sprayed out the front of thier face. it would be precise and fast and man 1 and 2 would be the same so to speak, everyone has everyone else covered at all times, its how we work, its why were effective and its why those taliban cocksuckers now live in caves.

[DrSalvador4]

i know this could be there first time good work if it is but was wondering would man 1 be dead because if you look he only clears his right corner and he ignores the left, an enemy would have loads of time to shoot him before man 2 came in, how do you stop this of happening cause iv seen a lot of squads doing this.

[eswidrol]

The idea is that you can't focus everywhere, a choice must be made. So no1 have is own corner and no2 must enter ASAP to save is ass. No1 must completely trust no2 who's glued on back. Like ReZeN187 said, at the end of the training they will enter nearly at the same time.

Also in RL, they could use frags or flashbangs to get the few required seconds...

[ReZeN187]

dont talk shit the CF is as sharps as nails you silly civilians

4th platoon

TOR COY

R REGT C

PTE *****

[zeppelin83]

FLASH BANG, THROUGH THE DOOR.

[expendables45]

agree,flash bang must used first in order to break the door and also flash bang can distract enemy inside.......

[terryktran]

oh i apologize ... man 4 is dead hes right infront of the door

good training tho

practice ... more

maybe different SOP ?

[terryktran]

alrite dis is how i was taught it suppose to be

man 1 had very little space once in the room he could have advanced half the room and cover his sector of fire

man 2. did good

man 3 . should have followed man 1 instead of man 2 . she should stop by the corner of man 1 . also weapon needs to be up as soon as possible you can see there he steps in take a look and then aim his weapon

man 4 . can't say much about man 4 cause its all jacked up with the other person

[5kilz]

well . i must say that first and second man who enter the room is dead... i have expierience.. believe me... just look onw moretime and you will understand what i'am talking about...

[chooch12]

I agree in this situation someone might die, but thats life in a hostile enviroment. 1. they followed the correct way to clear a room, i still think the 4th man in should ALWAYS be the rear guard. if the first man in cleared the left in stead of the right and you there was a man on the right, the same could be said. This is the correct and proper way to clear a room, besides not having a rear guard

[armyinf031]

Even if the guy did get shot in the back we do wear armour you don't go into combat in a t-shirt, so save your insults and remarks for someone else, and try using structured crititism. For all you that actually do understand whats happening, thanks for trying to explain it to those thick individuals.

[pooponhoop]

@armyinf031 ok ur wearing armor but the helment isnt ment to stop rifle bullets jst fragmentation and small arms fire.All i got to say is the 2nd person must be quicker when entering room.

ps not insult just constructive critism

[FuriousPixel]

@armyinf031

cop eatas go through armor

[xCrazyTwitchx]

@armyinf031 Awesome stuff dude!

[420warmage]

@armyinf031 getting hit in the body armor will still do its damage and i know i never want to get hit again but im thankful i had it

[armyinf031]

Ok so sum it up, this is the first stage of room clearings. First stage means slow, some people learn faster then others so ya obviously if we did exactly this in a hostile environment, people would die. But it's not hostile and it was the first day of room clearings. Things speed up over time, and this becomes a huge stategic advantage to whoever is inside the building waiting to die.

[smilie120]

NICE WORK SOAP! Hahaha...

[pcsbyte]

rog that.

[izo902]

i say that was stupid

[hitcho39]

hmmm why didn't the guy that went through the doorway go left instead of right? because one by the layout of the room the left side would hold more of a danger to their team, and two by the time the second man bursts through the hostile would of had time to react to what has just happened leaving the first and second man exposed to opposing fire???

[game1208]

i think they were just going through it slowly

[ospsrt]

Approaching that room from that direction allows for most of the short corner to be "pied off"and almost visually cleared prior to the entry. Therefore the pointman should have buttonhooked to address any threat in the far corner. If the door was closed, the pointman would have to buttonhook anyway to ride the door to the wall.

[intelegens]

Not!You don't see the firelanes that they are

trained on...Plus,the 2nd guy looked into the

room first,and then backed into the wall(mur).

[minari101]

second guy would have shot first guy in ass in real situation. i get fast is slow and slow is accurate but those first mil-seconds is what counts on succeeding or your team mate getting killed, keep up the practice guys and remember use real guns and not airsoft weight is different and you have to get used to the noise and smoke!

[stfuBUDDY]

super gay the first guy died in the begggining

[chulo113]

That was horrible

[aflyinghaggis]

What a pile of shit :)

[airhead187]

pointman is toast, second man came in a quarter of a second late, but then again it only takes 1/10 of a second to sqeeze the trigger. keep practicing guys. once you feel like this shit is getting boring you know your doing something right.

[dtk325]

Garbage.

[Cuthburt1232007]

too bad that first guy would have been toast.

[esters1986]

slicing the pie.

[semiaquaticeel]

potato patato :D

[r4peroconderecho]

good that was a trainig procidure cuz the first guy that wen't in in down cuz the second one took it to long , and the room clearing is RIGHT TO LEFT...

[semiaquaticeel]

Muzzle sweeps are not the end of the world and will happen all the time in combat. That's why you keep your finger off the trigger; an accidental discharge in the foot is a lot better than in the head. I hope you've learned to pie corners and have an over watch while searching by now, and good luck and stay safe doing whatever you do :)

[Polenar]

I totally agree with you. In real room clearing muzzle sweeps can and will happen.

Thats why most of room clearings are done by specialists.

[0n3m4n4rm33]

that looks familiar...

[ravenshield936]

i noticed u guys have ur weapons (m4 it seems like) down, pulled upwards. another video the seals have mp5s pointed upwards, drawn downwards. up to down prevents muzzle sweep into the legs and nontargets,so i think it's better. but i know you guys might have drawn it from below because m4 is longer. but i wonder if that's the case, or is there another reason you guys did it down-to - up motion instead of the other way around.

[pixelLibfront]

LOL  Coy HAHAHA

[Smooth2888]

The first one is entering turning his right...and gets shot in the back.

[armyinf031]

far from it my friend, as i said, we slowed it down for practice.

[Smooth2888]

Beiing that "bad guy" on left i'd shot him for sure. If hes entering room and turning his right not checking whats on his left he gets shot. Space on the right (door to corner) side is shorter than on left, so you can lean and check if is there somebody. So to me smarter is to turn left killing "bad guy" because you can see right corner too turning to left. If soldier is entereing and have to turn his right gets shot.

[TheDog2006]

haha well its no rule u have to go right or left, its whatever side u choose and the next person goes the oposite of u and so does the third person leaving number 4 securing high turnin for the six. in real life this is executed at a speed were theres just split second blind spots for you, while ur going right number 2 guy has the other side so it works pretty good, we get along with it as far as i kno ( us army homie ;) ) its just about speed and practice but it works

[Smooth2888]

Ok, but nometter what side you turn nobody is covering your back.

I saw bonus DVD "Black Hawk Down", where actors were trained the same scheme of clearing the room as shown here.

Firdy guy on the movie here got shot in the back for 100%.

[mastersgta1]

covering your back is the whole point of this method. Each man has his own sector while entering the room. If the sector is not yours you leave it to the next guy. What if there are three guys in all three corners? Nobody can shoot that fast(practically). And by the way... in real life this is MUCH MUCH faster.

[Smooth2888]

Too complicated. :) Wont work.

[armyinf031]

We usually use dd's or flashbangs, so it will mess up who ever is inside that room for a few seconds to say the least, and we also were going slow at first to iron out the edges.

[bloodxbrothers]

wouldnt the first man to enter get shot if during that 1 second time the 2nd man doesnt come in?