99 Civic Stage 2 Cam, Hondata Tuned, Apexi WS2 clip

[woostercarguy]

was this ever dynoed or ran on the quarter mile? i have a y8 just like urs with everything but the head work, hondata, and suspension... got a few videos on my channel lol... but i need numbers to see if the headwork is worth the money lol any response is appreciated... nice sounding idle btw

[pkev715]

how much is the car lowered

?

[cvcrcr99]

@pkev715 - This video, the car is about 2.5" lower than stock

[cermakattack]

@cvcrcr99 my bad, good job on taking a complement...

[cermakattack]

@cvcrcr99 just looking out man, I drive a 98. Sick ass em1 btw man!

[cvcrcr99]

@cermakattack - It is not an EM1. This is an EJ8

[cermakattack]

Blur out your plates... come on man..

[cvcrcr99]

@cermakattack - Relax. Plates are old and are no longer used.

[fleetfeet2004]

your confused... lol xD. Where's the turbo??? cam's move the powerband up, lol you need some help down low what were you thinking hahaha. Leave the cam for the v8's they have enough torque to handle the losses of a cam, but the i4... imo.

[cvcrcr99]

@fleetfeet2004 - Look at my other videos. The car was supercharged prior to pulling the y8 out. The car is being swapped to a H22 at this time.

[diggydog56]

whats launch control set at?

[civicman62]

I have a bisimoto stage 2 on my ej8 and it has been running untuned on the stock ecu since october,2010. runs fine no problems with it. im just probably not getting all the power i could out of it. I'm going to get an aem ems soon though

[texas817847]

After all of that money and time, you're still pushing under (190ish?). When I saved up 6k, I was thinking of dumping it in the good ol' EM2, but I bought a LS1 240 and kept the civic as a daily. Best decision ever.

[cvcrcr99]

@texas817847 - The car has been modified much more. EM2's are a waste of time unless you K swap. I woulf prefer not to have a v8. But thanks.

[xYOURxNOTxALONEx]

stupid question but would u still it vtec wit cams???

[cvcrcr99]

@xYOURxNOTxALONEx - I guess you are trying to say "do still hit vtec with a cam"? Umm yes. lol

[mudpuppy4life]

damn dude your car sounds like a ryobi weed eater lol....but that weedeater sure has a lopey ass cam for a 2-stroke...wait what am i sayin? other words that little civic sounds bad ass bro keep it loping!

[zepplin922]

thanks man ur car sounds sick btw



[woostercarguy]

did you get your hondata before or after the cam cus i've got an ex just wondering how good the gains are gonna be on mine once i get the hondata s100 if you answer thanks...

[cvcrcr99]

@woostercarguy - you need a tune when you install a cam. It will not run correctly on the OEM ECU.

[kevinhayes656]

@cvcrcr99

got my titanium valve springs and crower stage 2 in the other day

its more powerful already but it doesnt idle when the engine is hot though

any sugestions or should i just get a tune right away

[cvcrcr99]

@kevinhayes656

I would suggest getting a tune as soon as possible. Maybe disable the IAC, or change the duty cycle of it if you are able to change any of those parameters for the time being.

[1995camry1]

Sound is awesome and Ur car is nice as well..I'm tryin to get this cam for my civic too lol

One day haha..

[6Luucas]

LMAO @ the weed whacker during a civic video

[tchanthakho91]

did u have to get it timed after u put in the stage 2 cams?

[cvcrcr99]

@tchanthakho91 - Just one cam :) And yes, timing must be set at TDC prior to removing everything, and timing must be checked with a timing gun once everything is installed.

[tchanthakho91]

@cvcrcr99 damn i dont think mine are timed. if i dont keep my foot on the gas pedal it will shut off . but the guy that put them in said i just need to get it tuned he timed the cam gears though

[Eksirrob]

i hear a cam lol

[cvcrcr99]

@Eksirrob - lol, really? haha

[act440]

what hp you lookin at?

[cvcrcr99]

@act440 - No idea. Never got on a dyno yet

[PrettyC10241209]

i say fuck the haters. everyone has there own preference on motors and wat they can do. but this is a nice sohc. i think it would sound better with a test pipe or high flow cat tho. my opinion.

[cvcrcr99]

@PrettyC10241209 - Yea, a test pipe/hi flow cat would probably sound better... However, I believe it is a Federal offense for removing the cat from a vehicle. I don't think it is a good idea telling everyone you removed the cat from the vehicle and producing additional emissions. ;)

[Humility2011]

@cvcrcr99 The on/off sound while you step on the gas reminds me of the same problem i had with my very same 99civic. It has idle air control valve problem that's common to civic. It cost a fortune to fix it. :))

[albdesi]

SOUND AMAZING BRO!....i got a question did you have to get your head machined or did you jus put everything in no problems?? and did u change valves to??i got a y8 head im thinking about building, and this video just makes me want to do it MORE!

[cvcrcr99]

@albdesi - Stock everything other than what is listed in the description. Installed parts and tuned, that's it.

[MrSilvUr]

i had a b20b integra and i respect a built d series

[TheOombop]

dont waste any more money on a d sereis. just save up and go b or maybe k

[cvcrcr99]

@TheOombop - I have been walking by N/a B series daily. With the money for a N/a B series swap, I have done this to my D series. Which is something not everyone else does. Let's stay away from negativity here. The car is nowhere near complete of course.

[MdayGuitarist]

@cvcrcr99 Agreed. I've been working with my d16z6 and it's been my pride and joy. Only reason I'm moving to B series is I found a cheap gsr and all it needs is some block work. Nice setup btw.

[d15bvtec98]

@TheOombop the K series is a money pit when you swap..and B series is done all the time..the D series is an under estimated motor that actually has potential

[civicman62]

I have a 2000 civic ex with a d16y8 I have a megan 4-2-1 header, aem cai, bisimoto stage 2 cam and valve springs, and aem trutime cam gear, with magnaflow exhaust. I havent swapped back to 0bd1 yet but im going to put a p28 in it and get it chipped and tuned. my question is how big a difference hp wise does a tuned ecu do compared to the stock ecu?

[cvcrcr99]

@civicman62 -  I have no idea since I never dyno'd before and after, nor did I get a professional tune.

[chillincruisin]

how far is that lowered? looks nice.

[cvcrcr99]

@chillincruisin - At the time, I think it was about 2.5" lower in the front; 2.25" lower in the back. I have raised it up a little since then though.

[delluser121]

how did u get it to do that at 1:22 ?? would love to make my ep2 do that. is it the stock rev limiter or a variation of things that cause it to do that?

[cvcrcr99]

@delluser121 - It is called a Launch Control. It is embedded in the Hondata, or K-pro for the K series etc. You can also just buy a launch control/2-step controller, but I don't have any info on them since I have only used launch control thru the ECU.

[robh23a1]

@cvcrcr99 is the blox camber kit good since you lower your car. Do you set cambe wear on the tires.Thanks

[cvcrcr99]

@robh23a1 - Yea, it hasn't given me any problems. The Blox Rear LCAs are junk though. The bushings ripped and broke into pieces within 8 months.

[AmacSTO92337]

@delluser121 let the rpm go to 8000 and it will bounce back and forth nd make dat sound

[23kingme]

im running wid stage 2 blox cams..and skunk 2 intake manifolds..aem cold air..after market headers...street tuned p28..redline 8500...i smoke h22 accords and gsr and LS and b16 in eg or em1 all day...

[JUDGEMENTMUSIC]

You have ah leak by the header but nice

[RainingSushi]

Those cams sound crazy. The exhaust is great eventhough its seems a cold start.

[23kingme]

have u try running any gsr or basic bolts on LS...

[cvcrcr99]

@23kingme - I am not sure why people keep posting in this video thread. The car is now supercharged with no upgraded internals (yet). Check out my other video if you are interested.

A D16 with a camshaft/bolt ons and mild tuning will have not chance against a GSR and might keep up with a B18b.

Supercharged, I walk away from B18b's, but have yet to race someone with the GSR motor.

[geiner66]

give me a part number for that camshaft if you can

[cvcrcr99]

@geiner66 - I no longer have the camshaft. I don't know the part number. It was a y8 Stage 2 N/A cam. I don't Crower made too many variations of the cam to be honest. Finding it should be pretty easy.

[cvcrcr99]

What's wrong with you people? If you don't like the video, don't post. Don't waste your time posting something negative. As soon as I get the E-mail, I will just delete it.

BTW, the car is no longer N/A. That crower camshaft is no longer installed as well.

Thanks.

[geiner66]

@cvcrcr99 what camshaft specs and brand  is it crower can i have specs?

[Chevyy91]

hey im pickin up a 97 ex monday..bout how much hp u pushin with the chip and cam?

[cvcrcr99]

@Chevyy91

No idea, the car was never dyno'd. I know it wasn't that much of a difference. The car is completely different now.

[abzdefg321123]

I'm pretty sure that was a chainsaw.. just sayin lol..

[jayguy173]

so what is your duration and lift at 50

[nickyvodka]

What is your launch control set at? Sounds pretty high.

[cvcrcr99]

@nickyvodka: It's noted in the video description. "** Please note** Launch control is set at 5k"

The launch control is now set at around 3-3.5k

[cvcrcr99]

@nickyvodka - Read the video description.

[ceelow010]

single cam y8's are the shit!

[juanox10]

is this the original piping size that came with the exhaust? 60mm right? because im looking to build my integra with same cams and ecu and i want a quiet exhaust like a tanabe smh or ws2... do you think a n/a build like yours needs bigger piping than 60mm to perform at its fullest or is this piping big enough?

[cvcrcr99]

Yes, original piping (60mm).

I am no longer N/A. However, the 60mm exhaust is fine. I would not go any bigger than 2.5 inches (63.5mm) for the exhaust piping.

[jayguy173]

@juanox10 you can get a good exhaust thats quiet it doesnt have to be loud, the best exhaust are tuned to your application

[juanox10]

@jayguy173 thank you, i have decided what im going to get, Tanabe Super Medalion Hyper

[Adio611]

whoop! just pick up the same car, same color, hopefully mine will be that slammed later this week. im liken it on them hubcaps i gotta say. i might keep mine on for a bit

[cvcrcr99]

Hubcaps look better than steelies w/o them IMO.

The camshaft is actually being taken out and sold within the next month if anyone is interested.

[bassturd666]

That's so sweet. Haha, never heard a cammed civic before. Sounds awesome.

[cvcrcr99]

Thanks. The car is now supercharged. Check out my other vid!

[thek20coupe99]

sounds savage,sounds more like a doch than soch

[JaedmCIVIC]

@thek20coupe99 true but still not as fast as one

[jmorgan118]

sounds good.

[jdmcivic817]

i like your civic, it has a good sound , i've reading all these comments about b16s and d series and well i agree with you d16's engines are good if you use all the right parts , i had a d16y8 with turbo and it runs very good , made about 220hp with stock internals 8psi , now im going with a b16 engine that i haven't finished yet , srp pistons eagle rods . and well more and more i can't remember all the stuff but i hope i can make good hp at the dyno.. nice video

[cvcrcr99]

All I'm going to say is, if you have a negative comment, just hit the back button...it will be removed. If you are a American Muscle fan, or just hate on imports/Hondas in general, why the hell did you click the link to bring you here?

[bp1800]

is it possible to buy just a lauch control system...cause i got apexi power fc for my type R and i want launch control

[cvcrcr99]

I would assume you can still get launch control. Although, I have no clue what a power fc is. I think the term used for launch control would be 2-step. I bet if you searched around, you could find a 2-step/launch control set-up for your car.

[jvofromthetb]

@bp1800 If you have a TYPE R? Why would you need a launch control? Your car should have LSD? If you want that sound like his exhaust go get a tune with a Hondata s200 or s300. No point of a tune, if your not gonna make more power with parts.

[ej1forLife]

very clean, tastefully done.

[eazyeb]

sounds beautiful. you should get the vibrant exhaust itl make it sound alot nicer

[cvcrcr99]

I am a huge fan of the Apex-i WS2. I'll check out the vibrant exhaust you are talking about. The Skunk2 IM is now gone (sold it), along with some other things I had laying around.

I spent all the money I earned from selling stuff on a full jrsc kit. I will definitely post up more videos once that has been installed.

[eazyeb]

yea deff check em out there is no regrets i had to get my exhaust and no matter what engine you get it sounds beautiful on all of em

how much you pay for valve springs? and then get them installed

[cvcrcr99]

I think I ended up paying something like $250 for the valve springs and retainers. Everything on the car was installed by me and a friend.

[eazyeb]

thats straight. was it easy? cuz if it was then id just do it my self

[cvcrcr99]

Wasn't too hard. You just need a valve spring compressor and an extra set of hands.

[eazyeb]

ight thanks man

[frostydrasher]

how do you get the car to make that pop pop pop when you give it alot of gas?

[cvcrcr99]

It's the launch control. In the video it is set at 5,000 rpms, but I have messed around with it and I like it at 4,500 rpms or so.

[100burnout]

sounds funny first

[DAVORZZZ]

i heard blow sux for suspension, hows yours so far

[cvcrcr99]

No problems at all.

[DAVORZZZ]

sick honda bro

[TheBarrbby]

Dam that sounds badass man good job>

[cvcrcr99]

Thanks man. I appreciate it.

[cvcrcr99]

Not quick enough? Yea, I guess you could say that.

[jrock162000]

word d-series just not put out enough power? my buddy spencer has a ek with y8 and crower stage 2 cam intake header exhaust puts out bout 125 wheel still not quick enough i guess!

[jrock162000]

lol back to stck for what? tired of the honda game

[cvcrcr99]

Yup, WS2 is where it is at. Almost any oval/bigger muffler exhausts will tend to be quieter, while the coffee can look-a-likes will be that raspy, ear-piercing noise.

[johntran]

thats why i love my ws2!

[Gtype]

Wait, that's a WS2? Actually sounds pretty good. I thought for a while about getting a WS2 for the modest look. But because of the typical high pitch I hear from it, and quietness, I decided against it. Sounds pretty modest on this for some reason. Still way too quiet for my taste though.

[shiftyVL]

did you feel a big power increase in it beacuse i was thinking about doing a cam job on my D16Y1 ?

[cvcrcr99]

Well, before tuning, no, there wasn't a huge gain that I could feel. However, I bet a dyno would have shown at least 8-9 hp more. Now tuned, I would make a low guess and say everything added 15 hp, high guess would be about 25 hp. I just don't that kind of money right now to dyno it to get the exact number

But remember, a camshaft will also shift your powerband up into the higher RPMs. I don't "feel" extra power until after 4k and I am basically at WOT.

[dannythebiker]

so how much horse power are u running

[cvcrcr99]

No idea.  Never dyno'd or taken to the track. Thinking about returning it to stock actually.

[Jonsie420]

bout time I find a video that someone states they have cam and you can actually tell

[russd210]

jchatchsi you will need to upgrade your valve srpings and retainers suggest supertech titanium its the shizzle

[russd210]

i have a thermal reaserch and devolpment full 3inch turbo back and it sounds freaking sweet no load bullshit can straight beefy sound

[DMdrumma138]

nice,i got the ws2 on my hatch,i love it.

[jchatchsi]

yo i need some help. if i install a stage 2 cam on my d16y8, will i need to add any other aftermarket parts inside the engine? i been told that i can mess up my internals adding only a stage 2 cam?????

[cvcrcr99]

You can physically install a stg 2 camshaft w/o anything else, however, you run the risk of damaging internals. It is recommended that you at least get upgraded valve springs and retainers. I am running Supertech Valve Springs and Titanium retainers. Also, I have heard it is recommended to replace titanium retainers every 15,000 miles or so.

[sean55719]

man all them mods come on u cant leave us hangin with out some launch vids or something ;)

[RAF92Warhawk]

hmm man, I kind of want this exhaust but my only worry is that it might be too soft. I hate raspy exhausts but I want it to have some tone to it also. have you tried any other exhausts that had a nice smooth tone that you liked?

[cvcrcr99]

I absolutely love this exhaust. The only other exhausts I have had experience with is the Megan racing cat back (kinda has a slight slant at the end), and an Ebay cat-back. The Megan racing exhaust sounded nice at first, but within about 6 months, it really started to sound like crap. The eBay exhaust was junk right from the start.

I would suggest to check out a Greddy Sp2, or the Apex-i Noir (although this is for hatchbacks only I believe) if the WS2 is too soft

[cvcrcr99]

Thanks for the feedback! I had a coffee can exhaust on a previous car... when I was younger. Now, I can't stand that noise.

[69FordPickup]

Sounds good.....I like the quite exhaust instead of the loud ass coffee can exhaust that sounds like a large bumble bee coming down the road!

[benciviclg]

sounds like a chainsaw in the background to me...

[SkankMastaPimp]

A friend of mine has a lot of the parts you described on the d16, just not installed yet. He wants to know what kind of times (1/4 mile) can be expected. What are you running?

[cvcrcr99]

Haven't taken it to a track or dyno'd it yet. I need a new clutch and an A/F gauge+wideband set up. Re-tune and then off to the track!

[danknugzz420]

sweet civic man. looks like u put a lot of work into it. ha thats funny, an actual weedwacker in the background