Spurs v Man Utd (1965)

[u2mixer]

It's ALWAYS good to watch Utd get beat as I'm a LIverpool fan BUT Jimmy Greaves and Bobby Charlton have to be 2 of the greatest players of all time.

I tilt my hat to both of them.

[sahir33]

hey where is giggs?haha

[MrRepublikOfMancunia]

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[0586730O2]

look at the formations at the beginning looks like 2-3-5!! how would a modern side nowadays do playing this formation!!

[DJDbaseball]

rv2006ly it's hotspur not hotspurs

[Samuelity1]

They dont make em like Greaves anymore

[daveibukun]

Wow! Awesome goal by jimmy greaves.

[dekekyo]

even the mud was authentic back then!

[bengusandlex]

Fantastic stuff, really enjoyed watching this.

[derekrooney100]

Mackay was the greatest footballer of all time

[luca99513]

spurs used to be soooooooo good

[jaromino]

all the goals are awesome

[MyFootballFacts]

The actual formation back then was...

GK

RB - CH - LB

RH - LH

IR - IL

RW - CF - LW

In modern notation, that would be 3-2-2-3

[whiteman703]

A reflection of how good Spurs were in that era-8 of the opposition played in the 1968 European Cup winning side-only Sadler,Stepney and Kidd were missing-and most of their fans call this their best ever team! Greaves was so far ahead of any other player who ever called themselves a goalscorer!!!

[jayme2626]

Gilzean...so underrated, great foil for Greaves

[lost4amoment]

Greaves......... 100 goals before he was 21. What a player.

[maiden3453]

2:01 see hes not like c.ronaldo who stays down.

[infrasleep]

Back in the days when football was a competitive sport at the top level!! What have we got now? Nothing more than an expensive imitation of the 1970's American Soccer Leagues. Anyone who pays the £40+ to watch a Pemier game is nuts-but the bigger mugs and idiots are those who pay £20 a year to be 'members' on the off chance they may get a fvacant £90 seat for a game. The PL has killed the game at the top.

[drains24]

some lovely goals

[drains24]

some lovely goals

[loobymufc]

My great uncle :D

[PiirkkA]

Savner 2-3-5 formasjonene ;)

[chancesareshewears]

Messi, Maradonna, Pele, Ronaldo..watch this Greaves goal and bow down.

[chrishove123]

And we're starting to play like this again. UP THE YIDS C'MON YOU SPURS

[ewanthug]

thats why I love spurs

[epaqlove]

Love watching these vids, just ordinary guys doing what they love. This is what you'd call charming, not a lot of £20+k/w divers skipping around.

[TheCityman69]

Greaves has to be my all time favourite player...

[eggflipsupreme]

Greaves could not only score goals for fun, he could bodyswerve past players in a similar vein to George Best.

A total genius........

[TheWhitehall]

Great Play....Great Players. All true Brits!

[1970sman]

THFC......no football club in the world has more class than Tottenham Hotspur.

Jimmy....... you are the greatest.

COYS

[kenthewedge]

Home grown talent and a joy to watch.

[sagahammer]

Yes but not grown at Tottenham's home.

[0586730O2]

some absolute rocket shots in this game and a gem from greaves, great stuff

[Hicksie52]

Now that was why it used to be called 'the beautiful game'...

[whiteman703]

THE GREATEST goal scorer ever !!

[MrSayitagain]

if england have greaves now, the likes of defoe, carlton cole, heskey wouldnt even make it to the bench

[SKATEorDIE987654321]

Yeah Forev7 I am and this is my kid's username and if I did what he does on his skateboardy with my bleedin' back I would be dead! Incidentally my brain isn't totally dead 'cos if I remember Man U smacked Spurs by the same score at OT.

Any old crusty Spurs fan verify that? I moved as a kid to support a real team. WFC x 2

[olympics76]

yes you are correct I was at white hart lane as a 14 year old andI still remember greaves goal, my uncle lives in manchester and utd beat spurs 5-1 later on that seasonn at o/t

[fitzmo66]

3-0

[SKATEorDIE987654321]

I arrived too late to get in to see this game. It was a lock out. My first Spurs game and I couldn't get in! Think the gate was about 57,000 Gutted though I remember seeing Jimmy's goal on tv.later that day.

[Forev7]

You'd have to be in your 50's to have a memory like that... Skate or die? More like skate AND die.

[DonLoganUK]

you dont see the old 2-3-5 formation anymore

[Forev7]

4-1-3-2 is todays equivalent.

[FUDCHOPS]

looked a peach of a game...some cracking goals too.

[eggflipsupreme]

...I was there!

Greaves was a total genius, along with Best....

[blackbill2]

As a kid I saw Best, Law, Charlton, Greaves, Gilzean etc all play live as my dad took me to games. In those days foreign teams used to come to London, see the sights, do a bit of shopping, go to the game at Wembley, get beat and then go home lol!

Best was the best player I ever saw. Charlton was the best English player I ever saw. Greaves was best 12 yard box goal sniffer I saw.

[TheLegendfamily]

I used to see quite a few matches live in those days as well, but I was in my 20s & 30s. Best & Charlton were simply football gods; there's really no other way to put it. Greaves was quite the goal sniffer, but he could fire bullets from 20 yds. out as well. Roger Hunt & Johnny Haynes were 2 other greats from that era who are sort of swept under the carpet these days, IMO.

[PenylanHill]

and goalies never wore gloves back then...only when the pitch was muddy. you'd be laughed at for wearing gloves in good weather lol

[BillDFC]

The great Alan Gilzean....King of Dens Park.

[HitMeQuick]

let's play that formation every week. 2-3-5!

[kisbie]

@HitMeQuick They didn't actually line up like that. 2-3-5 dropped out of fashion back in the 20s. But for some reason it wasn't until the 70s that TV and newspapers stopped using it as the 'default' formation for their graphics.

[HitMeQuick]

@kisbie It did seem odd although of course Ardiles tried something similar with 5 up front when Kilnsmann was with Spurs. I wonder how they chose to show Ramsey's wingless wonders on the TV then. Maybe you know...

[kisbie]

@HitMeQuick From the footage, it looks like it might actually have been the 1966 World Cup where the BBC began displaying accurate formations. After that, I think they mostly just showed the players listed from 1-11 - until the early 90s - and the commentator went through the list. But I have seen newspaper cuttings from the 70s where 2-3-5 is still being displayed for all sides, despite it having been outmoded by the W-M (3-2-2-3) decades earlier. (Which itself was out of date by the 50s!)

[kisbie]

@HitMeQuick In the case of this clip, you can see that the attacking players' positions as given are not far removed from the truth, but Bobby Charlton is actually a lot deeper than a real centre forward would be. Going by the names on the teamsheet, United are probably using W-W (3-2-3-2), which was pretty popular until 4-4-2 came along.

[monomon909]

rv2006ly - great footage!

So good to see the legends of the playing and not for 20 sec on some shitty grainy replay - this is clear and (realtively) smooth.

Greavsie the best english striker ever? without a doubt.

[britmike84]

Greaves's goal was great, but why is it everytime I see a Bobby Charlton goal it's a 30-yard screamer? Kind of like Steven Gerrard, only better. By the way, gotta love those formations!

[VentilatorBlues1]

It really is a shame that we don't have more footage from this era. As a Chelsea fan (and son of one) I was always told that Greaves was in a different class but all I've got is his stats to look at. He still holds our record for most league hattricks in a season (6). Whoever wrote that Sky have distorted football is right. I mean beating a Man U team 5-1 with Best Charlton and Law in it ain't too shabby.

[HenryHallsGuestNight]

Toilet rolls on the pitch? Jumpers for goalposts? Strong men shaking hands? Isn't that what football's all about? Eh? Isn't it?

[ManUtdAllgames]

haha hilarious man! I watch fast show my dad has dvd :-D

[spurs5gooners1]

greaves one of the best finishers of all-time but relatively unknown today due to the dominance of the "sky 4". Also, how impressing is the finishing on display here?? I know the 60s were the glory days of football and that these were two of the best teams on show but i didn't realise the standard was this high. incredible...

[MCBhangramuffin]

Too true, also don't forget players like Greavsie had to finish on awful muddy pitches going past defenders who had licence to break their leg. One of the greats and a truly brave man for beating his drink problem too. A real legend!

[TheLegendfamily]

Yeah, as long as a defender even LOOKED like he was trying to play the ball; you could snap a forward's leg sideways and the ref wouldn't even blink. I appreciate the skill & purity of modern football, but the 1st Div. was a MAN'S game back in them days.

[seanreillyireland]

I agree with you my friend up to a point. But I like I'm sure you have, played the game, and if you're being kicked and poked all the way through, some nonce trodding on your heels at every turn and getting away with it, and you can't turn around in turn and just give him a fight with your fists then its not on. And bastards like this, all the provocation, especially spitting... that's not a mans game. Just my opinion as someone who didn't care about hard tackles as long as they were fair.

[TheLegendfamily]

Yeah, some players went over the line, but most of the blokes then were tough but fair. Of course, it's difficult to really compare the two eras in that area because the refereeing standards are just entirely different. & I admit that it might be just a WEE bit of nostalgia on my part, but I do try to set that aside as much as I can.

[seanreillyireland]

Yeah, the last thing I meant was to be sanctamonius... amongst honest men we love a hard and fair game.

But unfortunately in football, as in life, how few they are!

[TheLegendfamily]

I didn't take it that way in the slightest, seanreilly. "No harm, no foul-" as the Americans say. ;D

[gre812u]

Great times

Sometimes its easy to forget what a special club we are!

Infact the historical head to head up until 1996 was Spurs 45 wins / Manu 48 wins

Unfortunately, since 1996 its been a different story with a count of only 3 Wins against 24 and knocking us out the cup on several occassions

Would'nt it be great if we could turn back the clock in next Sundays CC final and get one over them for a change

COYS

[phil5125]

jimmy greaves=MAGICIAN

[0586730O2]

jimmy greaves was a LEGEND!! on the field

[666eggsiseggs]

As Sean says, Bobby had a kick like a mule in either foot!

The jaundice which sidelined Jim for months in '65 robbed him of some pace, just when he was the best striker in Britain.

[delldave5]

what a player greaves was...both teams were great as well no diving etc

[comeonyouspurs111]

Jimmy Greaves, A true yid!

[kingelnino9]

Jimmy Greaves is one of the greatest players of all time, way better than the over-rated George Best

[Samuelity1]

Jimmy greaves, one of the most gifted finishers ever imo

[Davecw1953]

Jimmy Greaves MY Hero (simply the Best !!!!)

i dont think Jimmy was ever the same after not being picked for the 66 World Cup Final

[666eggsiseggs]

Jim is naturally left handed as well, watching him as I did (from about '63 on) it was clear he was left footed, he would take corners from the right wing too, swinging in left footed, scored direct from a corner v Liverpool in'67!

[seanreillyireland]

Just to clarify something someone says here, and hello to 666eggsiseggs at the same time, who has been so kind as to educate us younger ones about Greavesie.... I think I am right in saying Bobby Charlton's shot is with his left, which was his natural foot... what that means takes nothing from the man, because it means the glorious shot against Mexico was actually with his swinger, so to speak!

[BERBKILLZ]

was jimmy greaves left or right footed?

[666eggsiseggs]

Jimmy was naturally left footed,but scored plenty with the right,I attended his talk show last week,still as quick witted as ever,a wonderful character.

[BERBKILLZ]

thanks m8

[BERBKILLZ]

how do u no?

[smudger1979football]

I'm a Spurs nut but look at Charlton's goal. What England or PREM player could score a goal like that with their 'weaker' foot..?

Good job they get shit money ;-)

[Krzyszczynski]

@smudger1979football : in them days strikers didn't HAVE a weaker foot - they trained and trained to bring the non-dominant one up to scratch. Nat Lofthouse (another great goal-hanger from a slightly earlier era than Greaves) used to play training games with an old carpet slipper on his right foot, simply so's he'd have to use the left to have any chance of scoring.

[sebastiansap2003]

@Krzyszczynski Yes Bobby Charlton hit that with his left foot. Players now earn £100,000 a week and can only use one foot

[seanreillyireland]

Maybe someone WHO REGULARLY SAW BOTH PLAY in the 60's could give an appraisal of Law and Greaves for me? Both were represented in footballing literature as being akin to Rush and Lineker in the 80's, yet there had to be more to them... Greave's dribbling here is something neither of them could ever do, and as for Law, he was actually Greave's favourite player. Could Law dribble like Greaves, I know he was a better tackler, arguably quicker, and a better headerer. Am I right? Thanks

[666eggsiseggs]

Sean,Jim and Denis were SO VERY quick with fantastic close control,Denis better in the air,both lethal if given a half chance in the box,they were streets ahead of Rushie and Gary.Jim the ultimate striker for me!

hth,Paul

[BERBKILLZ]

jimmy greaves is amazing best striker ever. could score any goal and this particualar goal is the best any player has ever scoredin a tottenham shirt

[FuriousFister]

I was at this game. I had my dick out in the front row and came to every goal, happy days. Definately the creme de la creme of footballing....

[leoseries]

Why aren't the goalscorers pulling off their shirts, diving headlong on the ground, kissing badges, rocking imaginary babies etc?

And why aren't Man Utd protesting over every goal?

[oneforme2]

i was at this match,remember it well,paid 40p,hot times have changed

[arbutus27]

I'll take issue with you mate. 40p? What are you on? It was well pre-decimal, and in 1965 you'd get behind the goal for about 4 bob (20p), possibly 3 and a kick (3/6 or 17.5p)

[159121921]

hi started supporting spurs on this day i was 14 happy days

[WELLBRAN]

Football then was slower and players had more time, but who cares it was more entertaining, and they were not just doing it for the money, and not trying to get a free kick.

[123Scears123]

The A to Z corresponded to other matches on the day, printed in the match day programme eg. A = Arsenal v. Chelsea. The half time scores of these games were then posted next to the letters by means of small number signs.

[jdgolfer18247]

Thanks so much! I appreciate it. Talk about a vintage way to keep score. Way before the days of elaborate scoreboards.

[jdgolfer18247]

What do the letters A-Z mean on the side line?

[jdgolfer18247]

None of the boys playing today would even survive five minutes with these guys, especially Stiles. He'd have carved their legs up by then, if not sooner! THIS, my friends, is when MEN were MEN!

[gre812u]

fully agree with you.

it was the golden age of football

[MacavitysCat]

Proper football played by proper men, with proper supporters! Fantastic goal by Jimmy Greaves!

[grobmark]

where's gazza?

[jdgolfer18247]

Gazza's brain couldn't function as fast as these guys played. Like George Best asked him, "What's your IQ?" Gazza says, "What's an IQ?"

[jdgolfer18247]

Actually, Best said, Gazza's IQ was less than his shirt number and he asked me: "What's an IQ?"

[tartanboy30s]

gazzas response was yes my iqs the same as my shirt no.8 and your iq is the same as your shirt no. george best 7

[jmdebaun]

Cool! I never heard Gazza's response. But, Besty would have had him spinning in circles trying to catch the great man. Not to mention, Besty would drink Gazza under the table and steal all his women!

[Buggsy61]

Difficult to say but I saw both play and Gazza was something special. Nutty as a fruit cake but he had so much talent it was frightening.

[yidostan]

A superb video great to see us beating the Manc's 5-1 Greavsie's goal is just pure magic, without a doubt Tottenham's greatest ever striker.A true legend.Hopefully someday we can find another pair of strikers as good as Greaves and Gilzean.

[Sheldo022]

Keane and Berbatov anyone?

[samothraki1]

From a time when we had British players playing in the First(premiership) division.

[spadge321]

it would have helped if someone would have tackled that lanky bastard Gilzeen !

[chrissyboy2401]

Well they didn't and you got thrashed...end of

[DavesOnDrums]

Great upload mate