"No man can wish more ardently than I do that all our public offices may be filled by men who fear God and hate wickedness;" - T. Parsons, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Massachusetts
I wonder how the mobbed up dummycratic teachers union would feel about that one? Yea, lets get all the libertarded teachers and their brainwashed idiot students to give up their Christmas break. LMAO! Yup, that'll go over as well as another Barry Hosedbama teleprompter reading.
WoW! It is so easy to just destroy and completely deconstruct libertarded bullshit point by point. Deconstructing libertarded lies is getting to be too easy. LMAO!
@biggingeryeti Just as I thought, another libertard who just can't stand the fact that someone is capable of formulating and coherently presenting facts that are different from your bullshit.
I'm sorry, but I'm the idiot? Yet, you can't even explain what it is that you disagree with me about. That pretty much is the definition of an idiot. If I'm so wrong, on what I have no idea because you have yet to share that with us, please explain where it is that I am wrong.
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Not at all difficult. I could into a long explanation of where and why you are wrong but you are not interested in debate. Not all opinions have equal value and yours is worthless.
A "long explanation" is not necessary. One quick bullet point on where I am wrong would be fine, but you obviously can't do that. Idiots like you don't like what I post, but you hate even more that I am right.
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Fine. The fact that you call Obama 'Barry Hosedbama'. That is enough to confirm you as an idiot. Also, despite the very first line of the very first amendment you think that celebrating Christmas means religion and state are intwined, despite Christmas not being a national holiday until 1870, long after the Founding Fathers had died.
@biggingeryeti You just made my point regarding Christmas. It is a religious holiday that does not even go back to our founding. So why not just abolish it and then your side can tell the libertarded mobbed up teachers unions that they will be required to go to work on what was once Christmas Day. What did people do before Grant signed the act making Christmas a national holiday. And while we are at it, perhaps we need to abolish a national holiday for a certain religious leader. Right?
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 From my point of view, Christmas is a traditonal holiday rather than a religious one. It's not even a Christian one, it was celebrated by Pagans as the Winter Solstice. My point is that the Founding Fathers did not insist on it being a holiday because it was religious. The constitution allows people to worship as they wish but the government has no religious leaning or bias and it is that stance that allows everyone to worship as they wish.
@biggingeryeti The last time I checked, CHRISTmas, as in Jesus Christ, is a religious holiday. If it is not a religious holiday, then why not abolish it and rename the holiday, the winter solstice? Move the holiday to December 21st which is the first day of winter.
I would strongly suggest you start reading, not only our FOUNDING DOCUMENT and our GOVERNING DOCUMENT, but accompanying materials which clearly spell out the importance and influence of religion on our FOUNDERS and our NATION.
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 You do know that the church of your mythical hero tried to get Jesus' birthday established at Easter but it didn't take so they adjusted it to the Solstice which was already an established celebration? The reason it won't be changed is because it would be political suicide because there are too many bible thumping idiots like yourself who would cry culture wars. I bet you don't accept evolution either.
@biggingeryeti Ah yes, there we have it. The libertard will always fall back on the "bible thumping idiot" talking point sprinkled with the old "evolution is my religion" bullshit. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science created by some guy who married his 1st cousin. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science that can explain exactly where we all come from, but can't explain why there aren't any half man/half apes walking around. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science that can't tell me when evolution began...
@biggingeryeti You keep clinging to your "seperation of church and state" bullshit which was put forth by that dummycratic appointed racist KKK member Hugo Black. It fits in well with the history of racism which still exists in the dummycratic party. Only now, dummycratic racism is called liberalism.
Whether you want to accept it or not this is a nation that was FOUNDED upon Judeo-Christain principles. If that offends some, too bad. You need look no further than the D-O-I or the Constitution.
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Where is that written? You claim it is founded on Judean-Christian values, why is that not mentioned? State where in either document that the U.S. constitution or Decleration of Independence that they are based on Judean-Christian values? The Treaty of Tripoli has it 'As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion'. The rest of what you said is just pure nonsense and just comfirms your idiocy.
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Yeah actually the term separation of church and state was coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. So Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and John Adams all disagree with you about church and state and whether the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Or are their own words not a good enough authority for you?
@biggingeryeti ...and when and why it ended. Evolution! The religion of the libertard, but wait, you only buy part of it, right? Oh yea, Darwin had the other idea too. Something about survival of the fittest or ion the case of the libertard it's now survival of the dumbest through government handouts. Yea, you buy Darwin's bullshit, but only part of it right. LMAO!
As for TJ's letter, why is it that you libertards never post the entire quote, it paints a bit of a different picture......
@biggingeryeti Hey, it's not my fault the libertard is a hypocrite. Oh and you are gutless too. All you libertards think Christmas should be abolished but haven't the guts to stand up for what you believe in because you know the American people will reject you for the Stalin-like Commies you all are. HHHMMM, funny how psychopathic dictators hate religion too. Something about religion making it difficult to CONTROL the people. Yea, Stalin "liked" religion too, didn't he?
@biggingeryeti Your kind can deny all you want, but the fact is this nation was founded by those who believed in Judeo-Christain principles. Please name the Muslims who were present during the debates over the D-O-I or the Constitution. Your idiotic idea that I am a religious person is yet another uneducated GUESS by a libertard who is desperate to get others to buy your bullshit. You, like all libertarded big government morons, are threatened by people with faith because it undercuts your......
@biggingeryeti ....already shaky authority. I don't care if you're an evolutionist and pick and choose what you believe in.
The point is, the leftist bullshit that there is a "seperation of church and state" is just that bullshit. Whether it comes in a "letter" with no legal standing or from a racist KKK member Supreme Court Justice who was an anti-catholic bigot. I noticed you can't address Hugo Black. LMAO! Leave it to the libertard to be a coward. LMAO!
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Shh, just go back to your trailer, keep fucking your sister and when you abuse your kids just tell them it's gods will. They'll believe it. Just like you did with your dad.
@biggingeryeti Ah and now the desperation of the old "you live in a trailer, fuck your sister and abuse your kids" bullshit from the libertard. You libertards always get desperate and then fall back on your own bullshit. Well, I don't live in a trailer, I have a house. But I notice the "tolerant" libertard likes to make fun of people who live in trailers. Why is that? I don't have any sisters. So how is it that I might be able to fuck my sister? We are getting rather desperate aren't we? LMAO!
@biggingeryeti That is what is so easy about the libertard. You have your bullet talking points, but beyond what you pick up on MSLSD, you have nothing to add because you lack the knowledge. You think TJ's letter proves your point, but now you're panicked over what the rest of the letter reads. LMAO! Well go google it and find out, moron. LMAO! Come on fool, what no jokes about my job flipping burgers? Funny, but do you laugh at minorities who make an honest wage flipping burgers? Hypocrite. :)
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 NO ONE should be able to pick and choose anything they should only believe what Trolls Like LiberRStupid wants you to believe or he will call you an old gay porn watcher.. What a little turd you are LibStupid! So who's your candidate choice? Let me guess Palin or Bachmann because you love the granny type. GROSS!
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 That's right Libstupid thinks anyone with any education past the first grade is some kind of "tard" . I guess it takes a tard to know one.
Why does the Constitution read "...do ORDAIN and establish.."? Why not just write establish? Does anyone know what the word ORDAIN means?
Libertards are such lying hypocrites. They cut up quotes and text to try and prove a lie. If Libertards are so against the "FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION" and against any state involvement in the "ESTABLISHMENT of a RELIGION" then why do we celebrate Christmas? Perhaps we should abolish that as a national holiday and make teachers go to work on 12/25. HHHMMMM?
I challenge any libertard out there to demonstrate where in the Constitution of the United States "the seperation of church and state" is written.
I challenge any libertard out there to finish the "establishment of religion" amendment that Keith Overbite so conveniently cut off. What is the rest of that amendment?
If TJ was so anti-religion then why does the D-O-I read "...and endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable rights..."???? Why doesn't it read endowed by Congress???????
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Your smarter than that man. It makes much more sense when you understand that jefferson chose the word creator to appeal less to him and more to the norm back in 1776, which was predominantly christian. Even if 95% of our citizens are christian, the constitution still prohibits religion and government from mixing as this is the only way to guarantee true freedom for all because if america did become a christian theocracy, which percentage of that 95% is: baptist, protestant,etc
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 1: I wouldn't change it to anything, the document doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a nostalgic symbol. 2: Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The first dam line man: freedom of religion is protected as long as no laws are enacted to elevate said religion above any other. 3:No, just reinforcing the facade that we live in one, which is sadly what most voters want, hence the usage of the phrase.
@guyverman 1)The Founding Document of the greatest nation in the history of this planet "doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a nostalgic symbol"???? WoW! That certainly explains a lot! If that is the case, then exactly where do our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come from?
2)There is a difference between religion being involved in our daily political activities and the "establishment of a state religion". The prohibition on religion and government "mixing" or as....
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Those rights are outlined in the DOI, but they are not guaranteed by law without the bill of rights. 2. The second that a law is enacted in the name of any religion is the same second that we establish a state religion. If god is involved in government at all, god is the government because god trumps man a million times over and therefore is slipperiest slope of all.
@guyverman Actually the D-O-I guarantees that our unalienable rights come from our creator and not from any man, president, congress, state etc. What you fail to understand is the slippery slope comes when we decide that our rights do not come from a creator but from a Congress who can then decide to take those rights away. This is what Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Mao, Guevara, Jim Jones, Daniel Ortega and the rest of the socialists do to the unalienable rights of people. Is that what you want?
@guyverman The unalienable rights that are outlined in the D-O-I do NOT have to be guaranteed by any law written by any man. They are unalienable and the truths are self-evident so they do not need to be passed by Congress. The rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness only come from God and therefore can't be taken away by a Stalin or a Hitler. That is the beauty of this great nation and it is what makes us so hated by the psychopathic dictators around the world. Can't you see that?
@LIBBlowerSrSTUPIDmofo1 They don't need to be passed by congress? And I suppose as you Teatards like Palin and Bachmann rewrite history, that congress didn't vote on Declaration of Independence to make it law? I just got here, and you're stupid already? You're a disgrace to stupid people! I'd like to leave you with one thought, but I don't know where to put it.
So whats next blow queen...Founding fathers freed the slaves and Paul Revere warned the British? heh heh
BAd: DOI wasn't voted into law. Voted yes, but it isn't a law, its a letter to the King of England sayign Screw you, we're outta here, and this is why.
Good: Libb is full of crap on the "only come from God" part. the terms Self-Evident mean that these rights are obvious, not that they are devinely inspired. A large number of the founding fathers were ANITreligion, Including Jefferson who wrote the DOI
@whiteowl1415 I was just seeing if you we're on your toes. Still, even though slightly ignored, as we we're fighting Revolutionary War, and I guess they we're all sort of buzy. But you are correctamundo.
'We hold these truths' may not be law, but many have and I guess many will die for those words.
And yes....most of main 7 framers we''re not religious. But don't tell that to Teatards, they need all the moral support that can get. Good stuff
even a guy that died 200 years ago and never even met Palin hates her. America's loss of intelligence has caused us to consider Sarah as a serious candidate
@tonyteb no, i don't dispute that. i am infering that palin has a general lack of history. i think i stated that clearly. if i have to explain the the joke to you, would you like me to use more hand gestures and a few illustrations.
@MrZeroTerrorRide Jefferson is not taught in a lot of American schools due to campaigns by christians to remove mentions of Jefferson and Paine who were critical of their cult. The christian hijacking of the USA is accelerating.
Take back our economy. Let's stop paying interest for the creation of our money. It sites in the constitution that the congress shall make our currency from gold and silver at NO INTEREST to our nation. Yet we print trillions in an ever plummeting fiat currency. We continue to pay 40 cents on every dollar... Spending is not our problem so much as how our money is created in the first place.
I think we need to find a way to expel these 'religious revisionists' out of office...seriously...and establish a new amendment - you are inelligible to run for office if you are a religious fundamentalist/extremist...
Wow...she wants to return to 1775, like...when African Americans were still slaves and women's rights were oppressed. Nice...hey, Palin, you can go ahead and surrender your rights right now if you want to - just shred your social security card, birth certificate and State ID. Voila! You'll have no rights in the United States! You'll have exactly what you want, lass! Go for it! You got my support entirely! XD
I would be on ron pauls side. I'm an atheist. But Christians are equaly valuable and accepted in a common goal to destroy the filthy money system started by super rich criminal bankers. Would think that muslims and everyone should unite in this commonn goal that enslaves everyone.
@dmnemaine There is no substance behind any of the accusations on racism and such for ron Paul. It's an attack from Mainstream media that is largly founded by big cooperations that want status que in society. Please examine what Ron Paul is speaking about and what he is all about instead of believing the smear campains by mainstream media. Ron Paul is for liberty for all. Limited goverment and immidiate withdrawal of the troops in Iraq.
Does "liberty for all" include the right of women to choose abortion? Does "liberty for all" include the right of legally recognized marriage for same sex couples? Does "liberty for all" include universal health care? Deos "liberty for all" include the rights of those U.S. citizens born to "illegal immigrants"?
@dmnemaine you obviously love all those things you metioned. I'd love to answer one subject at the time for you. But you can examine him yourself and try to understnad the reasons. I'd tell you right now that universal health care is not healty for us. I live in Norway and it's supposed to be the richest country on earh. We have universal healt care. But a woman had ro wait 2 months to get very imortant treatment that threaned her life. Also health care for all benifits the drug industry.
@dmnemaine Actualy lots of natural medecine helps much better than the drugs. But it's cooperate interest that are in the health care industry also. It's not that hard to keep healty in most western world. It's absolutly not worth giving more tax money for health care. You're gonna pay much more for health care than you'd receive anyways because of burocracy.
You should be able to get health care the way you want, even if it means smoking pot for you.
@dmnemaine well i would say that you havn't realy thought about things. Liberty for the elite is about having a central banks print our money and decide when to have inflation. LIberty for teh elite is when police is enfoced TO ARREST YOU IF YOU SMOKE MARIHUANA AND NOT THE DRUGS THE DRUGS COMPANIES WANT YOU TO HAVE THROUGH HEALTH CAER. LIberty for the rich is whe the media is owned by one small groupe of people.
I would suppose most serious freedome people dont' care about these matters. Most care to end the FED! All these small issues means nothing. And i realy doubt that it will split any people.
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3rd year of presidency with a Kenyan birth certificate... Barak Obama's election into office should be null and void with this fact alone. Why? "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..." - United States Constitution, Article ii, Section 1, paragraph six. Just thought I'd share that.
@donfolstar What are you going on about? Take a look at the provided Kenyan birth certificate and listen to people like Keith Olbermann refer to it nonchalantly in conversation as if it were no big deal? By the way, you might try approaching people like an adult rather than rather than going at them like a twelve year old with abusive ad hominems; you might earn some respect (not that it matters much here.)
all because of the word "jurisdiction" in a 1937 piece of legislation.
-This clause in the constitution is horribly archaic and has no place in a modern democracy. Yes, it is there and we have to live with it- but that does not mean we cannot acknowledge how dated and wrong thinking it is.
I will start treating people like adults when their brains start functioning on an adult level.
By the way, you should probably look up the definition of "ad hominems".
@donfolstar An ad hominem is an attack on an individual's motives or character rather than their policy or position. While you're right about McCain (born in Panama?) I never mentioned him so I don't know why you brought that up. There were more than two candidates after all. Now, are you assuming that my brain doesn't function as an adult's because I believe that my home should not be controlled by someone born outside its borders?
@donfolstar I just wanted to add one last note: I honestly don't think it matters who is in office because I feel that politics in general is far too inept at solving problems and far too dangerous in its current state and direction. That's not to say that I don't care who's signing my name on documents to be passed into law --national or otherwise.
And its interesting to wonder that if the framers of the Constitution were the devout Christians that Palin and other others claim they were then why did they not mention the name of Jesus, Christianity, or the bible in the Declaration of Independence? According to their bible dissemination of the Christian belief system is compulsory yet these men distanced themselves from Christianity rather than embrace it and the DI is proof of this.
@Marsman315 In an "officially accepted" way you're right. In an interpretive way, you're wrong. Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party died off and was succeeded by Jackson's Democrats and the National Republican and Whigs (forerunners of "Lincoln's" Republican Party).
However, the ideology of Jefferson himself is much more aligned with the ideologies of today's Republican Party than the Democratic Party.
@JesusWasAnAsshole LOL yeah her running for prez would be a joke, no dobut about that one! what most people seem to forget religon was the political tool of the day , in ancient times that is , but these ass backwards pundits like Palin still use it becaue they haven't the intellect to run a campagin on real issues, just religous influenced cluture wars and rather dumb analogies to their knowlege and qualifications LMAO !.....
If anyone is down with watching Palin get degraded (in the most literal sense), there is an entire slew of Palin porn readily available. Google it, bitches
This dumb bitch apparently does not realize that women had essentially ZERO rights in 1775.
Why do political fucktards such as Palin always assume that the forefathers of America were christians? If they were, that whole 'separation of church and state thing' would never have been posited to begin with. The logic is so obvious that it's painful. Dumb dumb dumb niggardly niggers
to her credit, neither could you. And for that matter, people in general are MUCH less intelligent than those who lived centuries before us. Look at the field of philosophy, for example. We go from Plato, to Aristotle, to Descartes, to Hume, to Kant, to Searle, to Nietzsche to the existentialists (Kierkegaard, Sartre, Camus, etc.) and where the fuck are we now? Philosophy was once a respected science/art...when is the last time you've heard anyone attempt to further knowledge?
@redryan20000 I know. The last great political philosophers we had were Webster, Calhoun, and Clay before the Civil War. No wonder the country's going down the drain.
even though there is no god, I sometimes wish that there was so that I might have somebody to thank for the small amount of reasonable people left on this planet
As if the Democrate Republicans even have a clue what it use to be like - and if it was they would be trialed and hung for treason way before the tea party even came about. End the FED and their Games will end with this Democratic Govern - MENTAL propaganda channel
@whythehell I can't speak for him personally but the democratic party is not the same as 30 years ago, maybe in 1980 or so he may have sided with dems. But I don't believe there should be only dems vs reps in the first place.
This was the best smack down ever. One needs only this to decide NOT to take her seriously or vote for the crazy bitch. She just wants to IGNORE the facts proving her ignorance. Willful ignorance.
Ron paul is not a republican, he is a man without a party, he runs on the republican ticket because there is no possible way a third party candidate can be elected in this duopoly bullshit the system has instituted.
@Megadeth324657 I think it's safe to say that Ron Paul identifies with Republicans much more than with Democrats. Why does he always run on the Republican ticket then? Why doesn't he run on the Democratic ticket? You think the Dems would have refused to let Ron Paul participate in that one debate like the Repubs did? But yet Paul continues to run as Republican. What a dope. Serves him right.
Ron Paul is not a republican, he is man without a party, he runs on the republican ticket because there is no way a third party candidate could be elected in this duopoly bullshit the system has instituted.
@SniPerAMeRIcan91 Yes, yet another typical mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging redneck Republican. You want to fight because I corrected you on RINO vs. RHINO?
@SniPerAMeRIcan91 You're a joke, Ron Paul supports the CONSTITUTION, and not only when it sounds good to do so, but always. Even when it comes to exercising your RIGHT TO OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY, and build whatever you want on it, even if it's a mosque close to ground zero, now that's principle.
She wants to go back to pre-revolution which is 1775, not 1875. But maybe she has a point... Go back to being colonies for Britain would definitely get rid of our government. Only one question: do you think Britain will take us back? Haha I love Palin. Always good for a laugh, and the snl skits were awesome. I could definitely put up with her for a while longer just to see Tina Fey impersonate her haha.
Is this woman crazy? Return to the way things were in 1875? Does she not understand she would be barefoot and pregnant in 1875 and heaven forbid she speak out and voice an opinion. Women didn't have the right to vote or own property back then. What an idiot.
The U.S. is not a Christian nation. Yes, I'm talking to you, Ann Coulter.
CuriousGeorgeMonkey9 2 months ago 2
Thomas Jefferson is, in my opinion, the greatest American politician who ever lived.
CuriousGeorgeMonkey9 2 months ago
jefferson was agnostic....
llamascanplaynitendo 2 months ago
lol they sound like libertarians I like it.
taxidrivernwo 3 months ago
Many of the founding fathers believed in God, but not necessarily in Christianity.
k0smon 3 months ago
Hypocritical of a statist like Olbermann to even mention the founders, but Jefferson hit the nail on the head when it came to religious mysticism.
ShrugMeSilly245 4 months ago
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"No man can wish more ardently than I do that all our public offices may be filled by men who fear God and hate wickedness;" - T. Parsons, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Massachusetts
ReaganGoldwaterBuckl 4 months ago
lol jefferson is kicking her ass from 200 years ago. xD
iPriestHolmes 4 months ago 6
I wonder how the mobbed up dummycratic teachers union would feel about that one? Yea, lets get all the libertarded teachers and their brainwashed idiot students to give up their Christmas break. LMAO! Yup, that'll go over as well as another Barry Hosedbama teleprompter reading.
WoW! It is so easy to just destroy and completely deconstruct libertarded bullshit point by point. Deconstructing libertarded lies is getting to be too easy. LMAO!
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Can't tell if trolling or just really stupid.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Based upon what? What is it that you disagree with? Are you even capable of formulating a coherent thought and presenting it?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Really stupid it is.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Just as I thought, another libertard who just can't stand the fact that someone is capable of formulating and coherently presenting facts that are different from your bullshit.
I'm sorry, but I'm the idiot? Yet, you can't even explain what it is that you disagree with me about. That pretty much is the definition of an idiot. If I'm so wrong, on what I have no idea because you have yet to share that with us, please explain where it is that I am wrong.
Is that so difficult?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Not at all difficult. I could into a long explanation of where and why you are wrong but you are not interested in debate. Not all opinions have equal value and yours is worthless.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti
Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda.
A "long explanation" is not necessary. One quick bullet point on where I am wrong would be fine, but you obviously can't do that. Idiots like you don't like what I post, but you hate even more that I am right.
Coward.
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Fine. The fact that you call Obama 'Barry Hosedbama'. That is enough to confirm you as an idiot. Also, despite the very first line of the very first amendment you think that celebrating Christmas means religion and state are intwined, despite Christmas not being a national holiday until 1870, long after the Founding Fathers had died.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti You just made my point regarding Christmas. It is a religious holiday that does not even go back to our founding. So why not just abolish it and then your side can tell the libertarded mobbed up teachers unions that they will be required to go to work on what was once Christmas Day. What did people do before Grant signed the act making Christmas a national holiday. And while we are at it, perhaps we need to abolish a national holiday for a certain religious leader. Right?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 From my point of view, Christmas is a traditonal holiday rather than a religious one. It's not even a Christian one, it was celebrated by Pagans as the Winter Solstice. My point is that the Founding Fathers did not insist on it being a holiday because it was religious. The constitution allows people to worship as they wish but the government has no religious leaning or bias and it is that stance that allows everyone to worship as they wish.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti The last time I checked, CHRISTmas, as in Jesus Christ, is a religious holiday. If it is not a religious holiday, then why not abolish it and rename the holiday, the winter solstice? Move the holiday to December 21st which is the first day of winter.
I would strongly suggest you start reading, not only our FOUNDING DOCUMENT and our GOVERNING DOCUMENT, but accompanying materials which clearly spell out the importance and influence of religion on our FOUNDERS and our NATION.
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 You do know that the church of your mythical hero tried to get Jesus' birthday established at Easter but it didn't take so they adjusted it to the Solstice which was already an established celebration? The reason it won't be changed is because it would be political suicide because there are too many bible thumping idiots like yourself who would cry culture wars. I bet you don't accept evolution either.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Ah yes, there we have it. The libertard will always fall back on the "bible thumping idiot" talking point sprinkled with the old "evolution is my religion" bullshit. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science created by some guy who married his 1st cousin. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science that can explain exactly where we all come from, but can't explain why there aren't any half man/half apes walking around. LMAO! Evolution! The exact science that can't tell me when evolution began...
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti You keep clinging to your "seperation of church and state" bullshit which was put forth by that dummycratic appointed racist KKK member Hugo Black. It fits in well with the history of racism which still exists in the dummycratic party. Only now, dummycratic racism is called liberalism.
Whether you want to accept it or not this is a nation that was FOUNDED upon Judeo-Christain principles. If that offends some, too bad. You need look no further than the D-O-I or the Constitution.
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Where is that written? You claim it is founded on Judean-Christian values, why is that not mentioned? State where in either document that the U.S. constitution or Decleration of Independence that they are based on Judean-Christian values? The Treaty of Tripoli has it 'As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion'. The rest of what you said is just pure nonsense and just comfirms your idiocy.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Yeah actually the term separation of church and state was coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. So Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and John Adams all disagree with you about church and state and whether the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Or are their own words not a good enough authority for you?
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti ...and when and why it ended. Evolution! The religion of the libertard, but wait, you only buy part of it, right? Oh yea, Darwin had the other idea too. Something about survival of the fittest or ion the case of the libertard it's now survival of the dumbest through government handouts. Yea, you buy Darwin's bullshit, but only part of it right. LMAO!
As for TJ's letter, why is it that you libertards never post the entire quote, it paints a bit of a different picture......
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Yep. You're an idiot.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Hey, it's not my fault the libertard is a hypocrite. Oh and you are gutless too. All you libertards think Christmas should be abolished but haven't the guts to stand up for what you believe in because you know the American people will reject you for the Stalin-like Commies you all are. HHHMMM, funny how psychopathic dictators hate religion too. Something about religion making it difficult to CONTROL the people. Yea, Stalin "liked" religion too, didn't he?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Your kind can deny all you want, but the fact is this nation was founded by those who believed in Judeo-Christain principles. Please name the Muslims who were present during the debates over the D-O-I or the Constitution. Your idiotic idea that I am a religious person is yet another uneducated GUESS by a libertard who is desperate to get others to buy your bullshit. You, like all libertarded big government morons, are threatened by people with faith because it undercuts your......
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti ....already shaky authority. I don't care if you're an evolutionist and pick and choose what you believe in.
The point is, the leftist bullshit that there is a "seperation of church and state" is just that bullshit. Whether it comes in a "letter" with no legal standing or from a racist KKK member Supreme Court Justice who was an anti-catholic bigot. I noticed you can't address Hugo Black. LMAO! Leave it to the libertard to be a coward. LMAO!
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Shh, just go back to your trailer, keep fucking your sister and when you abuse your kids just tell them it's gods will. They'll believe it. Just like you did with your dad.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti Ah and now the desperation of the old "you live in a trailer, fuck your sister and abuse your kids" bullshit from the libertard. You libertards always get desperate and then fall back on your own bullshit. Well, I don't live in a trailer, I have a house. But I notice the "tolerant" libertard likes to make fun of people who live in trailers. Why is that? I don't have any sisters. So how is it that I might be able to fuck my sister? We are getting rather desperate aren't we? LMAO!
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@biggingeryeti That is what is so easy about the libertard. You have your bullet talking points, but beyond what you pick up on MSLSD, you have nothing to add because you lack the knowledge. You think TJ's letter proves your point, but now you're panicked over what the rest of the letter reads. LMAO! Well go google it and find out, moron. LMAO! Come on fool, what no jokes about my job flipping burgers? Funny, but do you laugh at minorities who make an honest wage flipping burgers? Hypocrite. :)
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Shh, troll.
biggingeryeti 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 NO ONE should be able to pick and choose anything they should only believe what Trolls Like LiberRStupid wants you to believe or he will call you an old gay porn watcher.. What a little turd you are LibStupid! So who's your candidate choice? Let me guess Palin or Bachmann because you love the granny type. GROSS!
OurAmericaLost 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 That's right Libstupid thinks anyone with any education past the first grade is some kind of "tard" . I guess it takes a tard to know one.
OurAmericaLost 5 months ago
Why does the Constitution read "...do ORDAIN and establish.."? Why not just write establish? Does anyone know what the word ORDAIN means?
Libertards are such lying hypocrites. They cut up quotes and text to try and prove a lie. If Libertards are so against the "FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION" and against any state involvement in the "ESTABLISHMENT of a RELIGION" then why do we celebrate Christmas? Perhaps we should abolish that as a national holiday and make teachers go to work on 12/25. HHHMMMM?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
I challenge any libertard out there to demonstrate where in the Constitution of the United States "the seperation of church and state" is written.
I challenge any libertard out there to finish the "establishment of religion" amendment that Keith Overbite so conveniently cut off. What is the rest of that amendment?
If TJ was so anti-religion then why does the D-O-I read "...and endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable rights..."???? Why doesn't it read endowed by Congress???????
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Your smarter than that man. It makes much more sense when you understand that jefferson chose the word creator to appeal less to him and more to the norm back in 1776, which was predominantly christian. Even if 95% of our citizens are christian, the constitution still prohibits religion and government from mixing as this is the only way to guarantee true freedom for all because if america did become a christian theocracy, which percentage of that 95% is: baptist, protestant,etc
guyverman 5 months ago
@guyverman
1) OK? I guess? So today you would suggest changing the word 'creator" to what?
2) Exactly where in the Constitution is there a prohibition on government and religion from "mixing"?
3) When a politician says "...and God Bless the United States of America", is that somehow creating a Christian theocracy?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 1: I wouldn't change it to anything, the document doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a nostalgic symbol. 2: Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The first dam line man: freedom of religion is protected as long as no laws are enacted to elevate said religion above any other. 3:No, just reinforcing the facade that we live in one, which is sadly what most voters want, hence the usage of the phrase.
guyverman 5 months ago
@guyverman 1)The Founding Document of the greatest nation in the history of this planet "doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a nostalgic symbol"???? WoW! That certainly explains a lot! If that is the case, then exactly where do our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come from?
2)There is a difference between religion being involved in our daily political activities and the "establishment of a state religion". The prohibition on religion and government "mixing" or as....
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 Those rights are outlined in the DOI, but they are not guaranteed by law without the bill of rights. 2. The second that a law is enacted in the name of any religion is the same second that we establish a state religion. If god is involved in government at all, god is the government because god trumps man a million times over and therefore is slipperiest slope of all.
guyverman 5 months ago
@guyverman Actually the D-O-I guarantees that our unalienable rights come from our creator and not from any man, president, congress, state etc. What you fail to understand is the slippery slope comes when we decide that our rights do not come from a creator but from a Congress who can then decide to take those rights away. This is what Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Mao, Guevara, Jim Jones, Daniel Ortega and the rest of the socialists do to the unalienable rights of people. Is that what you want?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@guyverman The unalienable rights that are outlined in the D-O-I do NOT have to be guaranteed by any law written by any man. They are unalienable and the truths are self-evident so they do not need to be passed by Congress. The rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness only come from God and therefore can't be taken away by a Stalin or a Hitler. That is the beauty of this great nation and it is what makes us so hated by the psychopathic dictators around the world. Can't you see that?
LIBERALSrSTUPID1 5 months ago
@LIBERALSrSTUPID1 thanks for proving my point.
guyverman 5 months ago
@LIBBlowerSrSTUPIDmofo1 They don't need to be passed by congress? And I suppose as you Teatards like Palin and Bachmann rewrite history, that congress didn't vote on Declaration of Independence to make it law? I just got here, and you're stupid already? You're a disgrace to stupid people! I'd like to leave you with one thought, but I don't know where to put it.
So whats next blow queen...Founding fathers freed the slaves and Paul Revere warned the British? heh heh
MrClaydough 5 months ago
@MrClaydough Good and Bad..
BAd: DOI wasn't voted into law. Voted yes, but it isn't a law, its a letter to the King of England sayign Screw you, we're outta here, and this is why.
Good: Libb is full of crap on the "only come from God" part. the terms Self-Evident mean that these rights are obvious, not that they are devinely inspired. A large number of the founding fathers were ANITreligion, Including Jefferson who wrote the DOI
whiteowl1415 5 months ago
@whiteowl1415 I was just seeing if you we're on your toes. Still, even though slightly ignored, as we we're fighting Revolutionary War, and I guess they we're all sort of buzy. But you are correctamundo.
'We hold these truths' may not be law, but many have and I guess many will die for those words.
And yes....most of main 7 framers we''re not religious. But don't tell that to Teatards, they need all the moral support that can get. Good stuff
MrClaydough 5 months ago
@MrClaydough
'We hold these truths' may not be law, but many have and I guess many will die for those words.-
Indeed, as an exSoldier Im one of them.
Its part of why I don't say the pledge, its a blind promise of loyalty to a Government built on the right to overthrow an unjust government.
I instead face the flag and repeat my Oath form when I was a soldier...
"I swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against all threats BOTH foreign and domestic"
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@MrClaydough Sorry, phrased that last one badly, Im obviously not one of the ones that died, but I am one of the ones that was willing to.
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@whiteowl1415 Thats okay...it was a given. And very well said. 'Frame it on a wall' friend.
MrClaydough 4 months ago
even a guy that died 200 years ago and never even met Palin hates her. America's loss of intelligence has caused us to consider Sarah as a serious candidate
kerpal3 5 months ago
WOW HE FUCKS HER SO HARD!
Palin better get checked whether she is pregnant.
Even through time Jefferson shows Dooshbags his swinging clout
Dgoosh1000 6 months ago
america is not a christian nation or a muslim nation or a jewish nation.we consider ourselves the nation of citizens-BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
kshhashim 6 months ago
I SWARE TO "GOD" these christians are going to put slavery on the ballet!!!
PimpMyParadigm 6 months ago
The United States which were founded by such great men how did it come to this, thomas jefferson would be embaressed by Sarah Palin
unfad1ng 7 months ago 2
I love how the quotes keep switching from Sarah Palin's modern idiosynrasy and "plain talk" to Jefferson pure eloquence, which completely dominates.
coconutgrove8 7 months ago 14
sarah palin doesn't know who john adams and thomas jefferson were!
MrZeroTerrorRide 7 months ago 12
@MrZeroTerrorRide they both belived in God do you dispute that
tonyteb 5 months ago
@tonyteb no, i don't dispute that. i am infering that palin has a general lack of history. i think i stated that clearly. if i have to explain the the joke to you, would you like me to use more hand gestures and a few illustrations.
MrZeroTerrorRide 5 months ago
@MrZeroTerrorRide I AGREE SHES A MORON RON PAUL FOR ME AND WOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER ANYONE ELSE
tonyteb 5 months ago
@MrZeroTerrorRide Jefferson is not taught in a lot of American schools due to campaigns by christians to remove mentions of Jefferson and Paine who were critical of their cult. The christian hijacking of the USA is accelerating.
asdasdasdfdfd333 2 months ago
Take back our economy. Let's stop paying interest for the creation of our money. It sites in the constitution that the congress shall make our currency from gold and silver at NO INTEREST to our nation. Yet we print trillions in an ever plummeting fiat currency. We continue to pay 40 cents on every dollar... Spending is not our problem so much as how our money is created in the first place.
RON PAUL 2012
2eelShmeal 7 months ago 2
@alyomaya I am a right winger,and I agree with you 100%. It is also very embarrassing.
Cogitatio023 7 months ago 2
This is brilliant.
ThePositiveAussie 7 months ago
I <3 TJ
lilswifty10 7 months ago
I think we need to find a way to expel these 'religious revisionists' out of office...seriously...and establish a new amendment - you are inelligible to run for office if you are a religious fundamentalist/extremist...
mdlittle5466 7 months ago
Wow...she wants to return to 1775, like...when African Americans were still slaves and women's rights were oppressed. Nice...hey, Palin, you can go ahead and surrender your rights right now if you want to - just shred your social security card, birth certificate and State ID. Voila! You'll have no rights in the United States! You'll have exactly what you want, lass! Go for it! You got my support entirely! XD
mdlittle5466 7 months ago
@alyomaya Yeah and here's another thing. If they truly saw the founders as for what they were. They would not like them.
Trickishismael360 7 months ago
Palin is not even a christian! they just know that they would get voted if they say they're "christians"
fuckfreshmen 7 months ago
-____- i have to watch this for an online class. OMFG they want to turn us into liberals
araque202 7 months ago
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
Huesos138 8 months ago
Jefferson is such a badass.
furtim1 8 months ago
But this kind of media form is like a circus. Like a kindergarden IQ level of 5 tears olda.
I hope the american pupblic is smart enough to see that this is totaly irrelevant to the big picture.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
I would be on ron pauls side. I'm an atheist. But Christians are equaly valuable and accepted in a common goal to destroy the filthy money system started by super rich criminal bankers. Would think that muslims and everyone should unite in this commonn goal that enslaves everyone.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@turbofritz2,
What are Ron Paul's views on non-Christian, non-white, non-heterosexul, non-male civil rights?
dmnemaine 8 months ago
@dmnemaine Ehhh the excaly the same as for any other groupes..
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@dmnemaine There is no substance behind any of the accusations on racism and such for ron Paul. It's an attack from Mainstream media that is largly founded by big cooperations that want status que in society. Please examine what Ron Paul is speaking about and what he is all about instead of believing the smear campains by mainstream media. Ron Paul is for liberty for all. Limited goverment and immidiate withdrawal of the troops in Iraq.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@turbofritz2,
Does "liberty for all" include the right of women to choose abortion? Does "liberty for all" include the right of legally recognized marriage for same sex couples? Does "liberty for all" include universal health care? Deos "liberty for all" include the rights of those U.S. citizens born to "illegal immigrants"?
dmnemaine 8 months ago
@dmnemaine you obviously love all those things you metioned. I'd love to answer one subject at the time for you. But you can examine him yourself and try to understnad the reasons. I'd tell you right now that universal health care is not healty for us. I live in Norway and it's supposed to be the richest country on earh. We have universal healt care. But a woman had ro wait 2 months to get very imortant treatment that threaned her life. Also health care for all benifits the drug industry.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@dmnemaine Actualy lots of natural medecine helps much better than the drugs. But it's cooperate interest that are in the health care industry also. It's not that hard to keep healty in most western world. It's absolutly not worth giving more tax money for health care. You're gonna pay much more for health care than you'd receive anyways because of burocracy.
You should be able to get health care the way you want, even if it means smoking pot for you.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@dmnemaine well i would say that you havn't realy thought about things. Liberty for the elite is about having a central banks print our money and decide when to have inflation. LIberty for teh elite is when police is enfoced TO ARREST YOU IF YOU SMOKE MARIHUANA AND NOT THE DRUGS THE DRUGS COMPANIES WANT YOU TO HAVE THROUGH HEALTH CAER. LIberty for the rich is whe the media is owned by one small groupe of people.
turbofritz2 8 months ago 2
@turbofritz2 Excuse me but Ron Paul is FUNDED BY BIG CORPORATIONS!! Check it for yourself.
seekertrth 8 months ago
@seekertrth I'm not convinced.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@dmnemaine Do you feel it's important that politicians involve themselfs in your life in order for you to feel good?
turbofritz2 8 months ago
@turbofritz2,
Thank you very much. You answered my question. "Liberty for all" is only for the elite. Gotcha.
dmnemaine 8 months ago
I would suppose most serious freedome people dont' care about these matters. Most care to end the FED! All these small issues means nothing. And i realy doubt that it will split any people.
turbofritz2 8 months ago
Very amusing.
kailabreece 8 months ago
go ahead and let palin run for president. obama can bring these quotes from her out of the dust, debate her on them, and the election will be over
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
no1 can put words in our founders mouths esp. bitch like palin
23mbtx23 9 months ago
TJ is da man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xMorphling 9 months ago
Sarah Palin is retarded. There, I said it.
Hornadayfan 9 months ago
If you don't have the exact same values as Sarah Palin, then you are a bad person.
These people that want to enforce the law have no respect for the Founders or their beliefs or their work.
1776bricks 9 months ago
Haha, what a ignorant dyke
SupaSubs 9 months ago
Has this lady ever picked up a book?She is proving ignorance is dangerous!!!
charich1 9 months ago
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3rd year of presidency with a Kenyan birth certificate... Barak Obama's election into office should be null and void with this fact alone. Why? "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..." - United States Constitution, Article ii, Section 1, paragraph six. Just thought I'd share that.
roadkillrabbit69 11 months ago
@roadkillrabbit69
I am confused. Are you sharing that you can copy and paste lines from the Constitution or that you are an idiot who horribly misspells Hawaiian?
It is difficult to move ahead to real issues when dangerously stupid people are still ranting and raving about completely disproved non-issues.
donfolstar 10 months ago
@donfolstar What are you going on about? Take a look at the provided Kenyan birth certificate and listen to people like Keith Olbermann refer to it nonchalantly in conversation as if it were no big deal? By the way, you might try approaching people like an adult rather than rather than going at them like a twelve year old with abusive ad hominems; you might earn some respect (not that it matters much here.)
roadkillrabbit69 10 months ago
@roadkillrabbit69
Real issues are hard to discuss when dangerously stupid people* are still ranting and raving about completely disproved** non-issues***.
*People who push unintelligible propositions
**A forged document from an anonymous source versus a Hawaiian Certificate of Birth and newspaper announcement and you are still uncertain?
***This is a non-issue for numerous reasons.
-Technically (and I stress "technically", as it is silly to me) John McCain was not a natural born citizen...
donfolstar 10 months ago
@roadkillrabbit69
all because of the word "jurisdiction" in a 1937 piece of legislation.
-This clause in the constitution is horribly archaic and has no place in a modern democracy. Yes, it is there and we have to live with it- but that does not mean we cannot acknowledge how dated and wrong thinking it is.
I will start treating people like adults when their brains start functioning on an adult level.
By the way, you should probably look up the definition of "ad hominems".
donfolstar 10 months ago
@donfolstar An ad hominem is an attack on an individual's motives or character rather than their policy or position. While you're right about McCain (born in Panama?) I never mentioned him so I don't know why you brought that up. There were more than two candidates after all. Now, are you assuming that my brain doesn't function as an adult's because I believe that my home should not be controlled by someone born outside its borders?
roadkillrabbit69 10 months ago
@donfolstar I just wanted to add one last note: I honestly don't think it matters who is in office because I feel that politics in general is far too inept at solving problems and far too dangerous in its current state and direction. That's not to say that I don't care who's signing my name on documents to be passed into law --national or otherwise.
roadkillrabbit69 10 months ago
LOL...that Palin sure is an idiot!
And its interesting to wonder that if the framers of the Constitution were the devout Christians that Palin and other others claim they were then why did they not mention the name of Jesus, Christianity, or the bible in the Declaration of Independence? According to their bible dissemination of the Christian belief system is compulsory yet these men distanced themselves from Christianity rather than embrace it and the DI is proof of this.
nosajj12345 11 months ago
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nosajj12345 11 months ago
its not a democracy, its a republic
daobagua 11 months ago
lol, Thomas Jefferson was cold son
my favorite politician
s0beit 11 months ago
Jefferson's beliefs and philosophies are the cornerstone of the Republican Party.
Thanks for giving him a moment to shine Olbermann.
antipryzm 1 year ago
@antipryzm The Republican Party that developed into todays Democratic party.
Marsman315 11 months ago
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@Marsman315 In an "officially accepted" way you're right. In an interpretive way, you're wrong. Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party died off and was succeeded by Jackson's Democrats and the National Republican and Whigs (forerunners of "Lincoln's" Republican Party).
However, the ideology of Jefferson himself is much more aligned with the ideologies of today's Republican Party than the Democratic Party.
antipryzm 11 months ago
Sarah Palin is so ignorant.
woodXstocksXhoe 1 year ago
Religion is the worst thing that exists in this world. It figures that this quack thinks religion should be the backbone of our country.
This isn't the Medieval Age Palin. Although, a presidential race with her would be very very entertaining.
JesusWasAnAsshole 1 year ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole LOL yeah her running for prez would be a joke, no dobut about that one! what most people seem to forget religon was the political tool of the day , in ancient times that is , but these ass backwards pundits like Palin still use it becaue they haven't the intellect to run a campagin on real issues, just religous influenced cluture wars and rather dumb analogies to their knowlege and qualifications LMAO !.....
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
Like Keith Olbermann believes in the Constitution right? What a joke!
mm123 1 year ago
P.S.
If anyone is down with watching Palin get degraded (in the most literal sense), there is an entire slew of Palin porn readily available. Google it, bitches
ThatNigga649 1 year ago
This dumb bitch apparently does not realize that women had essentially ZERO rights in 1775.
Why do political fucktards such as Palin always assume that the forefathers of America were christians? If they were, that whole 'separation of church and state thing' would never have been posited to begin with. The logic is so obvious that it's painful. Dumb dumb dumb niggardly niggers
ThatNigga649 1 year ago
Heh, Palin can't even beat a dude who's been dead almost 200 years
flapjackboy 1 year ago 2
@flapjackboy
to her credit, neither could you. And for that matter, people in general are MUCH less intelligent than those who lived centuries before us. Look at the field of philosophy, for example. We go from Plato, to Aristotle, to Descartes, to Hume, to Kant, to Searle, to Nietzsche to the existentialists (Kierkegaard, Sartre, Camus, etc.) and where the fuck are we now? Philosophy was once a respected science/art...when is the last time you've heard anyone attempt to further knowledge?
ThatNigga649 1 year ago
@flapjackboy Sad but true! :) Jefferson 2012!
SuperKaruna108 1 year ago
ron paul is the shit ron paul 2012 all the way
utube2344 1 year ago
Thomas Jefferson 2012! Long live the Ron Paul Revolution!
DanielDamascusKimery 1 year ago
Guys who have been dead for a few hundred years pawned Sarah Palin. Just...awesome.
gamingsoul11 1 year ago
just watching jefferson owning people hundreds of years later shows how few strong philosophers the US has in politics
redryan20000 1 year ago 45
@redryan20000
Do you notice the underlying truth? Even with today's education, our politicians lost a debate against a dead guy.
Suzaku000 11 months ago
@redryan20000 yea we used up all our great political philosophers pretty early lol.
hailmary7283 11 months ago
@redryan20000 I know. The last great political philosophers we had were Webster, Calhoun, and Clay before the Civil War. No wonder the country's going down the drain.
downedcoyote1 9 months ago
Why do Americans have to be so retarded? Have any of you heard Sarah Palin speak? Shes dumb as fuck!
questionauthoritah 1 year ago
@questionauthoritah so where do all the smart people live?
drvn8 1 year ago
@drvn8 Well not in the ghetto thats for sure.
questionauthoritah 1 year ago
@questionauthoritah so now all of america is "the ghetto"?
drvn8 1 year ago
@drvn8 I dont know who fucking cares.
questionauthoritah 1 year ago
@questionauthoritah you call everyone from america stupid... oh how smart you sound hahahaha
drvn8 1 year ago
@chasxyz1234 haha i somehow doubt that either of the two care to hear my thanks, maybe that's a good thing
MuLLenTaLitY 1 year ago
even though there is no god, I sometimes wish that there was so that I might have somebody to thank for the small amount of reasonable people left on this planet
MuLLenTaLitY 1 year ago
@MuLLenTaLitY You can always thank Mother Nature (you know, the one in the old magarine commercials) or the power of Genetic Mutations.
chasxyz1234 1 year ago
i still am having a hard time believing sarah palin has got as far as she has
hmt227 1 year ago
@hmt227
you do realize she has a phenomenal set of tits, right?
ThatNigga649 1 year ago
As if the Democrate Republicans even have a clue what it use to be like - and if it was they would be trialed and hung for treason way before the tea party even came about. End the FED and their Games will end with this Democratic Govern - MENTAL propaganda channel
Allamericom 1 year ago
@Allamericom WTF are you talking about?
SgtDICTION 1 year ago
republicans are so idiotic they dont know what they say !!!
GenGeogeSPatton 1 year ago
I like how jefferson is constantly used as a reference for an argument. Last time I checked you don't need to combat bat-shit insanity with quotes.
catbuffalo 1 year ago 2
Good video. I wish Olbermann would also read Jefferson's view on limited government and Amendement X.
CrimsonFlameRTR 1 year ago
@CrimsonFlameRTR
Limited governement? Louisiana Purchase? The embargo act??
catbuffalo 1 year ago
Also, the process includes initiation by the party itself, do you really think Ron Paul would be accepted by the dems?
Megadeth324657 1 year ago
@whythehell I can't speak for him personally but the democratic party is not the same as 30 years ago, maybe in 1980 or so he may have sided with dems. But I don't believe there should be only dems vs reps in the first place.
Megadeth324657 1 year ago
This was the best smack down ever. One needs only this to decide NOT to take her seriously or vote for the crazy bitch. She just wants to IGNORE the facts proving her ignorance. Willful ignorance.
eqsmooth 1 year ago
What the fuck? it posted twice
Megadeth324657 1 year ago
Ron paul is not a republican, he is a man without a party, he runs on the republican ticket because there is no possible way a third party candidate can be elected in this duopoly bullshit the system has instituted.
Megadeth324657 1 year ago
@Megadeth324657 I think it's safe to say that Ron Paul identifies with Republicans much more than with Democrats. Why does he always run on the Republican ticket then? Why doesn't he run on the Democratic ticket? You think the Dems would have refused to let Ron Paul participate in that one debate like the Repubs did? But yet Paul continues to run as Republican. What a dope. Serves him right.
whythehell99 1 year ago
Ron Paul is not a republican, he is man without a party, he runs on the republican ticket because there is no way a third party candidate could be elected in this duopoly bullshit the system has instituted.
Megadeth324657 1 year ago
I'm a Ron Paul supporter.. I would never ever in a million fucking years vote for necon palin.
jmfigone209 1 year ago
Palin knows she can get away with all of these inaccuracies because her supporters are not too bright themselves.
Luckily for her, all of them watch Fox "News" so they will never be burdened with facts.
TheSnoopy1750 1 year ago 2
One may ask, how could an intelligible man like John McCain pick an idiot as his running mate? Two words: BLOW and JOB
nybombs 1 year ago
Founding fathers spoke out against Islam lots of times in a very harsh manner so this material isn't entirely true.
GompCelticPL 1 year ago
@GompCelticPL
they spoke out against religion in general. Although i wouldn't doubt they specifically spoke out against islam.
lildread1 1 year ago
Founding Fathers FTW
lexcage 1 year ago
Palin should just step out of the 2012 election and endorse Ron Paul, then he might have a chance on winning
Berrarumpwrangler 1 year ago
@Berrarumpwrangler ron paul is a RHINO. supporting a terrorist mosque and shit.. he is no better than obama
SniPerAMeRIcan91 1 year ago
@SniPerAMeRIcan91 Another stupid republican - it's RINO moron (republican in name only).
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
Sinclair Lewis
TheSnoopy1750 1 year ago
@TheSnoopy1750 lets meet id kick your ass
SniPerAMeRIcan91 1 year ago
@SniPerAMeRIcan91 Yes, yet another typical mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging redneck Republican. You want to fight because I corrected you on RINO vs. RHINO?
Kind of proves my point.
TheSnoopy1750 1 year ago
@SniPerAMeRIcan91
i guess you never learned that we cant see your ego from here.
lildread1 1 year ago
@SniPerAMeRIcan91 You're a joke, Ron Paul supports the CONSTITUTION, and not only when it sounds good to do so, but always. Even when it comes to exercising your RIGHT TO OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY, and build whatever you want on it, even if it's a mosque close to ground zero, now that's principle.
Palin is a joke and you know it.
Berrarumpwrangler 1 year ago 3
She wants to go back to pre-revolution which is 1775, not 1875. But maybe she has a point... Go back to being colonies for Britain would definitely get rid of our government. Only one question: do you think Britain will take us back? Haha I love Palin. Always good for a laugh, and the snl skits were awesome. I could definitely put up with her for a while longer just to see Tina Fey impersonate her haha.
shaneriggs1 1 year ago
Is this woman crazy? Return to the way things were in 1875? Does she not understand she would be barefoot and pregnant in 1875 and heaven forbid she speak out and voice an opinion. Women didn't have the right to vote or own property back then. What an idiot.
corrigansue 1 year ago 33
@corrigansue , That is a nice thought though.
JesusWasAnAsshole 1 year ago
@corrigansue Wow! Context reallly must not matter whit you huh?
voted4bush 1 year ago