What are your opinions about say...mother-son or father-daughter relationships? If there is consent on both sides by your standards they should be allowed to have a relationship? Obviously, there needs to be a line. Just because you think nothing is wrong with you doesn't mean you're "normal".
Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "gay" has helped homosexual activists push their dishonest agenda on unsuspecting people.
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
For those that compare homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia, your argument is invalid. Animals and children can't consent. Two adults, regardless of their identification, CAN consent and are capable of loving each other.
"Animals and children can't consent."←Di you mean to say "Animals and children can't GIVE LEGAL INFORMED consent." Or you mean they can0t give normal consent? Because a child can consent or denied consent to get a hug and an animal will easily move away from you if you do something he doesn't consent to be done.
Animals can consent (they can't give legal informed consent) but surely they CONSENT.
PS: Animal consent is enough to avoid harm while having sex with humans or animals.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo yep.. just like they consent to get in cars and drive off w/ strangers for "candy"... Children don't know better, neither do animals... your argument is fucking retarded
Children are different from animals, we use animals all the time to our advantage, we even kill and eat animals, we don't do that to children. There are different rules for what you can and can not do with animals, different rules than the ones you follow with human children.
My argument is not retarded, what is retarded is that you are using human rules on non-humans. Or you seriously believe an animal is a human? Would you accuse people working on a slaughter house of mass genocide?
sexuality is in fact a mainly hard-wired variance in most species, including humans. black republicans are not. Gay is a sexual orientation, not a crime and even if chosen hurts no one. Pedophilia is both a crime and plain wrong, deranged, and moreso a hetero derangement though not exclusively so. Saying why not blah blah blah.. apply same to Jim Crow south in its time and even now as wounds are not healed. There is no wrong to allow all humans to have basic no-harm same rights - civil rights.
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f sexual orientation is a right, than polygamy, beastiality & pedophilia are rights. Ridiculous argument.
Skin color is an inherent characteristic whereas sexuality is not Therefore an analogy of gay marriage to interracial marriage is a rather poor one.
Why not legalize grown men marrying underage girls? Why not? They love each other. Are you a pedophile-a-phobe? There has to be a moral standard & the most healthy natural human relationship is one man & one woman.
@BlackRepublican2010 Teen age girls under 18 aren't adults who can make mature adult decisions in most states. That's why the law says it's illegal, cause they can't make decisions on there own, even if they want to get married. Not the same for two same sex adults who have the maturity to make grown up decisions. Try another angle cause you fail at this one.
@CivilizedJerk What he is practically saying is, when does ball stop rolling? Its in his rhetoric.So i think your the one that missed the point. Sorry bud.
@CivilizedJerk What he is practically saying is, when does ball stop rolling? Its in his rhetoric.So i think your the one that missed the point. Sorry bud.
but what about bestiality? Does the person not have the right to "love" the animal?
O.o although Its more of a subject what what you are used to I suppose. But we should stop calling what people are sexuality interested in not "love" (because love is unconditional to those factors of race,religion,etc...) we should give it a new word- I vote for "lust." We lust- what someone looks like, we do not love if it was true love we would not subject it to this. So Bi- sexuality is the answer! :D
@babydoll12912 no need to curse >:O but love is unconditional regardless of gender,race,religion etc... So even if you are straight you like what you see on the outside. We lust not love so I vote if it was true love we would go both ways no? meh just an opinion
@BlackRepublican2010 Pedophilia is sexual relations with someone who isn't a consenting adult, you're arguement is invalid. Two consenting adults having sexual relations is what we are looking to legalize. The last time I checked, animals don't speak so they can't consent, so bestiality isnt going to be legalized either.
@BlackRepublican2010 Being gay is just as natural as being a person of color, and the oppression that LGBT people face is very much like the oppression that people of color have faced. But I wouldn't expect someone who chooses to be a member of a political party that has gone out of its way to fuck over both people of color and LGBT people, to understand that. Being African American and Republican is suicide.
@BlackRepublican2010 your argument is ridiculous. Who are you to judge gay people? I'm straight, but I respect the right for other people to do what makes them happy, as long as it doesn't hurt others - and homosexuals don't harm straight people. Your "morality" is just a word, born of religion, which is the shackles keeping mankind down.
@BlackRepublican2010 babbles, "polygamy, beastiality & pedophilia are rights. Ridiculous argument."
Yes, your argument is ridiculous. Insane, even. Too bad you embarrassed yourself making it.
"Skin color is an inherent characteristic whereas sexuality is not Therefore an analogy of gay marriage to interracial marriage is a rather poor one."
Educated people know that both skin color & sexual orientation are innate, so a comparison between the two is quite apt.
@GodCreatesGays2 If sexual orientation is innate, why not protect pedophilia and bestiality? It's not their choice to be attracted, they were born that way.
@Siferatu, homosexuality concerns adults in a consensual, mutually-beneficial relationship, just like heterosexuality. Pedophilia is the sexual abuse of children, who can't give adult consent & who are harmed by the abuse. Similarly, animals can't give informed consent, so bestiality falls outside the realm of "consenting partner" relationships. Raping children or animals can't be correlated to any loving adult relationships, str8 or gay. If you are still confused about anything, let me know.
@GodCreatesGays2 But I wasn't talking about the partners was I? I'm talking about the attraction of the individual, the primal urge that says this is who they are sexually.
@Siferatu, you asked if we should "protect" the rights of sexual abusers, like those who want to rape children and assault animals. I explained why we should not: because they abuse and hurt others who are in no position to consent or defend themselves against such unwanted abuse. Such a situation simply has no correlation to consensual, adult relationships, which SHOULD be protected, because they are mutually-beneficial to those involved. There's a difference between love and rape. Understand?.
neither. I'd go straight to the source myself, god. and a medical doctor who can provide me with a list of options and proceedures, even if there still expiremental BY the medical scientist. and I would try ever possible one. it wouldnt hurt, cause come on, you have a brain tumor. and I dont need some priest telling me god wont help me cause Im homosexual. how does he or anyone know that? thats why I'd ask him myself. if he doesnt help, I could argue that Im meant for another purpose.
just like people could argue that he didnt help me because of this one fact about me. nobody will ever know. only he knows. and it's useless to fight over something pointless.
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Faith can heal a brain tumor. However, I do not possess that amount of faith, so I would go to a doctor in conjunction to my prayer. But my question regarding cannabilism was asking if you think it is wrong. Many gay people know what they are doing is wrong but yet they make a conscious decision to continue in practice.
Its not that I know that practiceing homosexuality is wrong. its that I believe that theres.... nothing wrong... with it. its that I have a different belief than you and other people who believe its wrong. so why does my belief mean less?
And many straight people also chose to engage in sexual activities that are not aimed at procreation, even though the bible says they are wrong. Many christians have CHOSEN to interpret the bible in a way that excuses their own sin. If every christian who has recieved or given a blowjob were suddenly killed by godly bolts of lightning there would only be about 8 christians left to oppose homosexuality.
Tisk, tisk. First you make a false statement about the bible and procreation, then you go on to imagine every blowing and blowed christian being struck by lightning and only 8 remaining. I can no longer entertain your absurd comments. I also feel that all these comments that I have left on someone elses video is a bit disrespectful. And finally where we are now, has nothing to do with my initial comment. I'm tired of this. If you are gay, a child molestor, or cannibal, I meant no offense.
Why is it false? Aren't you the one squating on gay related blogs spewing judgements?........who's disrespectful? As far as your gay, child molesting, cannibalism facination......I dunno what to tell you.......those are your issues.
criminals in that group than the average. So you are actually prosecuting people for crimes, that they might commit in the future. If the law would be that way, then we would have to descriminate against very many groups of people, including all men, people who own weapons etc. I guess, you are a man, so according to your argumentation you should be descriminated against.
Although hypocrites, these politicians are doing the right thing. Should a fornicator or pedophile tell everyone its okay since he does it? No, he should still maintain what is right and what is wrong and try to prevent others from partaking in those actions. Nobody should hate the individuals who practice homosexuality, but they should condone that lifestyle.
The particular politician saying he is not gay may well be the truth. If he denies doing something that he did, he IS a liar and should confess to the public which he serves. But gay can go straight just as straight can go gay. It's just harder cuz going gay usually requires sexual pervesion, addiction, and an extreme lack of moral.
Yes straights do enjoy perversion. But a monogomous hetero couple has no need for perversion. Did you know homosexuality roots come from pedophilia? Swingers are also extremely perverted, but Im on a gay page so thats a different topic. And I prefer to keep this discussion modest if you may.
I have plenty of hetro friends......their perversions range from dildo collections, to anal, to bondage. Maybe YOU'RE just laced a lil tight :) Homosexuality from pediphilia? Huh? So.....does pedophilia also come from hetrosexuality......don't forget about the vast majority of straight child molesters.
Historians have found extensive evidence that older men would mentor young men and boys. As part of their bonding, they would engage in sexual relations. Multiple civilizations have done this. Some in Rome felt that sperm held knowledge, in which they could bestow to the young. I think this was an excuse to be prey on young boys. When it was not accepted to mess with boys, older men would resort to slave boys, as they were considered property. And yes there are straight child molesters and pervs
Older men also engage in sex with young girls......older women also engage in sex with young boys....and there is no need to look to ancient Rome....just google it. Whats your point? there are straight pervs and gay ones.....AND?
There are straight people. There are straight pervs. There are gay pervs. You can not be gay without perversion, that is all. I mentioned ancient rome as an example of the origin of gays. Humans weren't always like that, at least from a historical standpoint. But we can debate history, which would neglect all that we know.
What about the Egyptian evidence of homosexuality thousands of years before Roman times? One would almost have to be slightly retarded, or devoutly religous to not realize that homosexuality has been around as long as hetrosexuality.
Laced a lil tight, is that what you call someone who is firm in their beliefs? If gays and abortion why not polygamy? If polygamy, why not bestiality(There are groups pushing for this)? Necrophilia? etc. Gays used to be put to death in America. Now they act happy and play the victim, AND GET AWAY WITH IT. My kids will have it bad. Swingers everywhere. Gays everywhere. Thats why Muslims hate America, cause we are the land of the "Free of Moral"
There is a big difference between firm beliefs and blatent stupidity. Abortion is a hetrosexual female issue.....as I am not a hertosexual female, I am unable to speak on that topic with any credibility. Polygamy is also a hetrosexual issue.....there is no gay lobby for polygamy......so this is also a moot point. Beasts are unable to concent to marriage......relating that to this topic is also a total fail. Muslims enjoy a constitutional protection of religion is this country.
You are rather naive or incompitent regarding this debate. Bestiality/zoophilia has nothing to do with animals marrying people. I never spoke of gay polygomy, theres no such thing. Credibility? Thats good. But insignificant. Attempting to protect another human life doesnt require credibility just morals but ur gay, I understand.But hey, you are right about Muslims having freedom of religion in this country, I'll give you that ONE. Now who's blatently stupid?
All the muslim Americans I know are happy, well adjusted people......How does this relate to the topic? Do you have anything to offer besides silly unrealistic scenarios, and unbased fear mongering?
@scginda803: Drawing comparisons between gays and pedophiles is ignorant at least. Being gay doesn't destroy anyone's lives, being pedophile does. Apart from that you say, that these politicians acted right, but that nobody should hate homosexuals. So what you're actually saying is, that homosexuals should be descriminated against, but not hated. What? Did you really think about what you wrote there? If yes, you should do it again.
AIDS is not destroying your life? Homosexual men molest boys at a rate 4X higher then straight men molest girls. Look at the history of homosexuality and you will see where it started. I think you are the ignorant or naive one hear.
You know what? I guess the rate of child molesters, that were victims of pedophiles in their childhood is ten times higher than those who weren't. So why don't we discriminate against victims of pedophiles? Sounds like a good idea according to your argumentation. A statistical correllation does not justify discrimination of any kind. If this were true all men should be discriminated against.
What are you talking about? I responded to a question you asked. But gays have higher numbers of alcoholics, depression, and suicide. Blame it on the straight people that harass them, yea yea. Black people weren't commiting suicide cause they were taught they werent equal. And jews dont commit suicide. If you are gay, it goes beyond people not accepting you. Something is mentally wrong. Pedophiles, murderers, and thiefs are all discriminated against. Why not gays if you really want to go there?
Well, first of all, I didn't ask you, wether being gay destroyes the lives of others, I stated that it doesn't. Aids destroyes lives and pedophiles destroy lives, but being gay alone doesn't do any harm to anyone. Your argumentation actually is inconsistent in a few points, which should have been clear after my previous post. I will point it out again: You are trying to say, that a group of people (homosexuals) should be descriminated against, because there are statistically more...
I would be depressed if I did the best I could and my child chose to partake in a disgusting, highly immoral lifestyle. That would not destroy, but definately affect my life in a negative manner. Not all assaulted by pedophiles lives are destroyed. It depends how you cope, if you can remember, or if you felt justice was served. Being gay alone doesnt destroy lives, being a pedophile alone, doesnt destroy lives, being a sociopath alone, doesn't destroy lives. But their wrong.
The law is that way. If I associate with Muhammed Al-Jafeer only a weekly basis, I lose my right to privacy.If I did a crime and served the time, I still can't get a gun cause they know statistically I'm more likely to do it again. If Im mentally ill, I cant adopt a child cause of what COULD happen. It's okay, gays won't be alone, they just have to understand why they're being discriminated against.
If I go back and find sources, what will that do for you? It will waste my time. You'll probably still be gay or pro-gay marriage so theres no point. However, you can easily find statistics from recent studies if you want, there all on the internet.
It proves that you are talking out your ass. It proves that your just a babbling idiot. The vast majority of men who molest young boys identify as hetrosexual. Look up your local sex offender site.....you would almost have to be retarded to believe that any subgroup is giving hetrosexual men any competition for the title of "largest demograph of sex offenders". As a straight man....please tell us......why do you and your friends like raping little children, and underage girls?
My friends to my knowledge dont rape little children or underage girls. What you have to see is the big picture my boy.
Being that homosexuals make up 1-2% of the population(according to several sources), the rate of molestation is higher for homosexuals. If straight people(98% of the pop.) molest 90% of the kids, it is still at a lower rate than 2% of the population molesting 10% of the kids. In reality, homosexuals molest at about 30%. 70%/98% is much less than 30%/2%.
Can you please show me where you found Dr.Judith Reisman conducted this study and that she used the same material from Paul Cameron? Please quote your sources. 2nd CDC says that about 2% of the population is homo. Bell-Weinberg, 1970 (~2 percent); Billy-Battelle, 1993 (1.1 percent); Cameron-Ross, 1975-78 (~3 percent); Catania-NABS, 1992 (2 percent); FRI, 1983 (5.4 percent); MacDonald, 1988 (2 percent); NCHS, 1988-91 (3.5 percent); Schmidt, 1987 (0.6 percent); and Trocki, 1988-89 (3 percent)
Just google Dr. Reismans study in the times........100's of referrences come up.The 1993 Janus Report estimated that nine percent of men and five percent of women had more than "occasional" homosexual relationships.
Hmmmm........and the conclusions your quoting from the "Times Study" are all unsubstantiated by any acredited profesional association, and promoted by right wing religous sites.
The American Psychological Association agrees, "Another myth about homosexuality is the mistaken belief that gay men have more of a tendency than heterosexual men to sexually molest children. There is no evidence to suggest that homosexuals molest children."
According to these reputable studies, gay men are actually less likely to molest children.
How does it feel to be a liar.....and more or less a total piece of shit? I wouldn't know.....so maybee you could share?
"There is no evidence to suggest that homosexuals molest children."
Once you read that, you should have dismissed this source immediatly. Every group molest children. Men, women, straight, gay, etc.
Stats say otherwise buddy.
Drs. Freund and Heasman of the Clark Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto reviewed two studies on child molesters and calculated that 34% and 32% of the sex offenders were homosexual. In cases these doctors had handled, 36% of the molesters were homosexuals.
The Los Angeles Times conducted a survey in 1985 of 2,628 adults across the U.S. Of those, 27% of the women and 16% of the men had been sexually molested. Seven percent of the girls and 93% of the men had been molested by adults of the same sex. This means that 40% of child molestations were by homosexuals.
There are also studies that show homosexuals have higher rates of depression, suicides, and other forms of mental disorder.
Not only are you stupid...your wrong. The Los Angeles Times didn't conduct this survey, Dr, Judith Reisman did. Her "so called" study has no factual basis and has been dismissed by the AMA. The Times refers to her as a leading expert, when in fact much of her research is merely recycled conjecture obtained from Paul Cameron. Cameron was dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association in 1984 for ethical violations concerning his biased and fraudulent research.
Google "PROOF OF NEGRO INFERIORITY" and you will find hundreds of pages of supporting documentation. Does this mean its true?.......or does it just mean that fucktards like you know no racial boundaries?
It may be true, what does the evidence say. I'm black, but I'm not going to dismiss the evidence if it has credence. I being an African American might be at a disadvantage to a caucasian in a long distance run because I don't possess as many Type 1 fibers. I may be at a disadvantage also because I possess higher levels of testoterone, which makes me more succeptible to getting angry. Whats your point bro?
My point is obvious......just a few years back the same bigots were using the same tired talking points to make you a second class citizen.......and still are. Hows it feel?
I, knowing the history of bigotry in regards to race am not bothered by the perception of those that hate who I am. It is easy to hate what you dont understand. It is a result of having pride in who you are. Question. Have you seen the commercial where the pig says "I'm just enjoying the taste of a fallen friend"? Is anything wrong with cannabilism in your understanding? If so, why? If not, why?
Under normal circumstances cannabalism is not a very attractive practice. However......if you and I were on a plane that crashed in the Alps and you didn't survive.......I can't promise there wouldn't be a barbecue featuring dark meat :)
Guys stop being so stupid. If you're a homophobe get off this video and go watch one of your gay bashing ones. And FYI, don't speak for the rest of humanity, just because something applies to you, doesn't make it law. Everybody's bi, and some people choose to be gay? And even heterosexual homphobes, if you won't ALLOW my dirty ass to get married, also pass a law for which you don't have to accept my dirty tax money. I feel as though it's every man for himself, we have to be more proactive...
about demanding what's owed to us. We have to wait until we're given permission to get married? Every homophobe word activates a mentality that it's acceptable to pick on LGBT children in schools, it's those same people who are responsible for every hate crime. Why aren't our rights a priority? Don't even say gay marriage spoils the holiness of marriage, you guys are quite content with the idea of divorce because it suits you. Gay rights need to be taught in history. Ok, I've had my rant now : )
I think if you make the law,, you should abide by it. I do not know if I agree with this documentary, but I do believe you can not legislate against yourself or your own life style and be affective.Most of the laws that affect homosexuals attack basic human rights and should be considered inaffective legislature. But who am I to say.. people run on fear, I have no idea how to make that different.
"OUTRAGE" documentary what a fucking stupid fuck, what is really outrages is dehumanizing the human specie, such is unprecedented ignorance in human histry.
Cheap entertainment. Almost all men are physically and sexually attracted to other men, they just CHOOSE to live their lives with women.
And nobody takes rights away from gays. They have all the basic rights every human being has. Getting married is a procedure, not a natural, human individual right, so give me and the rest of the world a break.
Woah woah woah! Hold up. Straight men are *not* attracted to other men. That would make them bisexual. And if bisexual (and gay) men are living in a closet, pretending to be straight while backing anti-gay legislation then they do need to be outed.
As long as a person hates, hides, and is despises something inside of themselves they will project those negative feelings onto others who they feel display that element.
That's what I said - most men and women are bisexual (you don't need to lecture me), some choose to be heterosexual, others choose to be homosexual, i.e. some choose to live their lives with a person of the same sex, others with a person of the other sex. Simple as that.
So not all bisexuals and gays even want to get married. You need to stop thinking ALL gay and bisexual people think the same - we DON'T!
And not supporting gay marriage has NOTHING to do with hating gays.
"And not supporting gay marriage has NOTHING to do with hating gays"
Come on, Lots of people hate homosexuals and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. They just hate them cause they grew up in a culture who hated them.
Republican Governor Charlie Crisp of Florida who is the main hypocrite outed in this documentary just announced he is running for US Senator for the state of Florida. He got married last year to. This man needs to be outed so bad!!
It's Crist, unless you were making a joke so he sounds like Quentin Crisp. I was surprised he got married last year. I thought I could deal with him being closeted, but he went as far as to beard himself, too.
Some people's faces are covered because they are the witnesses to the closeted gay behavior(ie, "I slept with that Senator"). Witnesses often have their face blurred in documentary-style footage, just as sources in newspaper articles are often anonymous. I'm sure they also cover the closeted politicians' faces too because they want to give people an incentive to see the movie to find out exactly who's been outed(assuming some of the faces blurred in the trailer aren't blurred in the full film).
Again, another reason for NETFLIX or BLOCKBUSTER and their streaming abilities.
Or maybe your local library has it in stock.
unkleweaser 2 weeks ago
What are your opinions about say...mother-son or father-daughter relationships? If there is consent on both sides by your standards they should be allowed to have a relationship? Obviously, there needs to be a line. Just because you think nothing is wrong with you doesn't mean you're "normal".
shadowC10ne 3 weeks ago
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Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "gay" has helped homosexual activists push their dishonest agenda on unsuspecting people.
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
lightandbeautiful 2 months ago
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undefinedleftist 2 months ago
For those that compare homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia, your argument is invalid. Animals and children can't consent. Two adults, regardless of their identification, CAN consent and are capable of loving each other.
babydoll12912 1 year ago
@babydoll12912
"Animals and children can't consent."←Di you mean to say "Animals and children can't GIVE LEGAL INFORMED consent." Or you mean they can0t give normal consent? Because a child can consent or denied consent to get a hug and an animal will easily move away from you if you do something he doesn't consent to be done.
Animals can consent (they can't give legal informed consent) but surely they CONSENT.
PS: Animal consent is enough to avoid harm while having sex with humans or animals.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo yep.. just like they consent to get in cars and drive off w/ strangers for "candy"... Children don't know better, neither do animals... your argument is fucking retarded
13igdawg 10 months ago
@13igdawg
Children are different from animals, we use animals all the time to our advantage, we even kill and eat animals, we don't do that to children. There are different rules for what you can and can not do with animals, different rules than the ones you follow with human children.
My argument is not retarded, what is retarded is that you are using human rules on non-humans. Or you seriously believe an animal is a human? Would you accuse people working on a slaughter house of mass genocide?
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 10 months ago
sexuality is in fact a mainly hard-wired variance in most species, including humans. black republicans are not. Gay is a sexual orientation, not a crime and even if chosen hurts no one. Pedophilia is both a crime and plain wrong, deranged, and moreso a hetero derangement though not exclusively so. Saying why not blah blah blah.. apply same to Jim Crow south in its time and even now as wounds are not healed. There is no wrong to allow all humans to have basic no-harm same rights - civil rights.
howlingsandy 1 year ago
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f sexual orientation is a right, than polygamy, beastiality & pedophilia are rights. Ridiculous argument.
Skin color is an inherent characteristic whereas sexuality is not Therefore an analogy of gay marriage to interracial marriage is a rather poor one.
Why not legalize grown men marrying underage girls? Why not? They love each other. Are you a pedophile-a-phobe? There has to be a moral standard & the most healthy natural human relationship is one man & one woman.
BlackRepublican2010 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010 Teen age girls under 18 aren't adults who can make mature adult decisions in most states. That's why the law says it's illegal, cause they can't make decisions on there own, even if they want to get married. Not the same for two same sex adults who have the maturity to make grown up decisions. Try another angle cause you fail at this one.
CivilizedJerk 1 year ago 11
@CivilizedJerk What he is practically saying is, when does ball stop rolling? Its in his rhetoric.So i think your the one that missed the point. Sorry bud.
wushuloveyou 1 year ago
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@CivilizedJerk What he is practically saying is, when does ball stop rolling? Its in his rhetoric.So i think your the one that missed the point. Sorry bud.
wushuloveyou 1 year ago
@CivilizedJerk
wushuloveyou 1 year ago
but what about bestiality? Does the person not have the right to "love" the animal?
O.o although Its more of a subject what what you are used to I suppose. But we should stop calling what people are sexuality interested in not "love" (because love is unconditional to those factors of race,religion,etc...) we should give it a new word- I vote for "lust." We lust- what someone looks like, we do not love if it was true love we would not subject it to this. So Bi- sexuality is the answer! :D
Kgbrybik1 1 year ago
@Kgbrybik1 an animal cannot consent you dumbass
babydoll12912 1 year ago
@babydoll12912 no need to curse >:O but love is unconditional regardless of gender,race,religion etc... So even if you are straight you like what you see on the outside. We lust not love so I vote if it was true love we would go both ways no? meh just an opinion
Kgbrybik1 1 year ago
@Kgbrybik1 but I refuse to say that anyone loves anyone else- rember love is reg
Kgbrybik1 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010 Pedophilia is sexual relations with someone who isn't a consenting adult, you're arguement is invalid. Two consenting adults having sexual relations is what we are looking to legalize. The last time I checked, animals don't speak so they can't consent, so bestiality isnt going to be legalized either.
spartacandream 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010 Being gay is just as natural as being a person of color, and the oppression that LGBT people face is very much like the oppression that people of color have faced. But I wouldn't expect someone who chooses to be a member of a political party that has gone out of its way to fuck over both people of color and LGBT people, to understand that. Being African American and Republican is suicide.
WhiteFlowerLei76 1 year ago 2
@BlackRepublican2010 your argument is ridiculous. Who are you to judge gay people? I'm straight, but I respect the right for other people to do what makes them happy, as long as it doesn't hurt others - and homosexuals don't harm straight people. Your "morality" is just a word, born of religion, which is the shackles keeping mankind down.
m4lic3187 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010
Did you choose to be straight? According to you, sexuality is decided by the person.
So when did you choose to be straight? Tell me, I'm interested in hearing this.
Japantiem 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010 your making yourself sound like an idiot
13igdawg 10 months ago
@BlackRepublican2010 babbles, "polygamy, beastiality & pedophilia are rights. Ridiculous argument."
Yes, your argument is ridiculous. Insane, even. Too bad you embarrassed yourself making it.
"Skin color is an inherent characteristic whereas sexuality is not Therefore an analogy of gay marriage to interracial marriage is a rather poor one."
Educated people know that both skin color & sexual orientation are innate, so a comparison between the two is quite apt.
Think before you write please.
GodCreatesGays2 9 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 If sexual orientation is innate, why not protect pedophilia and bestiality? It's not their choice to be attracted, they were born that way.
Siferatu 7 months ago
@Siferatu, homosexuality concerns adults in a consensual, mutually-beneficial relationship, just like heterosexuality. Pedophilia is the sexual abuse of children, who can't give adult consent & who are harmed by the abuse. Similarly, animals can't give informed consent, so bestiality falls outside the realm of "consenting partner" relationships. Raping children or animals can't be correlated to any loving adult relationships, str8 or gay. If you are still confused about anything, let me know.
GodCreatesGays2 7 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 But I wasn't talking about the partners was I? I'm talking about the attraction of the individual, the primal urge that says this is who they are sexually.
Siferatu 7 months ago
@Siferatu, you asked if we should "protect" the rights of sexual abusers, like those who want to rape children and assault animals. I explained why we should not: because they abuse and hurt others who are in no position to consent or defend themselves against such unwanted abuse. Such a situation simply has no correlation to consensual, adult relationships, which SHOULD be protected, because they are mutually-beneficial to those involved. There's a difference between love and rape. Understand?.
GodCreatesGays2 7 months ago
@Siferatu - Homosexuality is different from pedophilia and bestiality because the premise of consent is stronger.
IHVHandmind 2 months ago
I saw it on HBO. Its a great film, everyone should see it then comment on it.
realmuscle19 1 year ago 2
Outrage is an excellent documentary, one of the best Ive seen this year.
WhiteFlowerLei76 2 years ago 5
Where can I see this?
forestskog 2 years ago
When you have a brain tumor do you visit a priest, or do you visit a medical scientist?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
neither. I'd go straight to the source myself, god. and a medical doctor who can provide me with a list of options and proceedures, even if there still expiremental BY the medical scientist. and I would try ever possible one. it wouldnt hurt, cause come on, you have a brain tumor. and I dont need some priest telling me god wont help me cause Im homosexual. how does he or anyone know that? thats why I'd ask him myself. if he doesnt help, I could argue that Im meant for another purpose.
mike20079 2 years ago
just like people could argue that he didnt help me because of this one fact about me. nobody will ever know. only he knows. and it's useless to fight over something pointless.
mike20079 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Faith can heal a brain tumor. However, I do not possess that amount of faith, so I would go to a doctor in conjunction to my prayer. But my question regarding cannabilism was asking if you think it is wrong. Many gay people know what they are doing is wrong but yet they make a conscious decision to continue in practice.
scginda803 2 years ago
Its not that I know that practiceing homosexuality is wrong. its that I believe that theres.... nothing wrong... with it. its that I have a different belief than you and other people who believe its wrong. so why does my belief mean less?
mike20079 2 years ago 2
And many straight people also chose to engage in sexual activities that are not aimed at procreation, even though the bible says they are wrong. Many christians have CHOSEN to interpret the bible in a way that excuses their own sin. If every christian who has recieved or given a blowjob were suddenly killed by godly bolts of lightning there would only be about 8 christians left to oppose homosexuality.
clubindiana4 2 years ago 2
Tisk, tisk. First you make a false statement about the bible and procreation, then you go on to imagine every blowing and blowed christian being struck by lightning and only 8 remaining. I can no longer entertain your absurd comments. I also feel that all these comments that I have left on someone elses video is a bit disrespectful. And finally where we are now, has nothing to do with my initial comment. I'm tired of this. If you are gay, a child molestor, or cannibal, I meant no offense.
scginda803 2 years ago
Why is it false? Aren't you the one squating on gay related blogs spewing judgements?........who's disrespectful? As far as your gay, child molesting, cannibalism facination......I dunno what to tell you.......those are your issues.
clubindiana4 2 years ago 2
What we are doing isnt wrong and its perfectly natural and we dont care if you have a problem with it.
WhiteFlowerLei76 2 years ago 2
criminals in that group than the average. So you are actually prosecuting people for crimes, that they might commit in the future. If the law would be that way, then we would have to descriminate against very many groups of people, including all men, people who own weapons etc. I guess, you are a man, so according to your argumentation you should be descriminated against.
KroxiGore07 2 years ago
Although hypocrites, these politicians are doing the right thing. Should a fornicator or pedophile tell everyone its okay since he does it? No, he should still maintain what is right and what is wrong and try to prevent others from partaking in those actions. Nobody should hate the individuals who practice homosexuality, but they should condone that lifestyle.
scginda803 2 years ago
Typical christian......promoting a lie is "doing the right thing".
clubindiana4 2 years ago
The particular politician saying he is not gay may well be the truth. If he denies doing something that he did, he IS a liar and should confess to the public which he serves. But gay can go straight just as straight can go gay. It's just harder cuz going gay usually requires sexual pervesion, addiction, and an extreme lack of moral.
scginda803 2 years ago
LOL....don't be ignorant. Straights enjoy perversion just as much as anybody. Maybe thats why your so uptight.....had your salad tossed lately?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
Yes straights do enjoy perversion. But a monogomous hetero couple has no need for perversion. Did you know homosexuality roots come from pedophilia? Swingers are also extremely perverted, but Im on a gay page so thats a different topic. And I prefer to keep this discussion modest if you may.
scginda803 2 years ago
I have plenty of hetro friends......their perversions range from dildo collections, to anal, to bondage. Maybe YOU'RE just laced a lil tight :) Homosexuality from pediphilia? Huh? So.....does pedophilia also come from hetrosexuality......don't forget about the vast majority of straight child molesters.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
Historians have found extensive evidence that older men would mentor young men and boys. As part of their bonding, they would engage in sexual relations. Multiple civilizations have done this. Some in Rome felt that sperm held knowledge, in which they could bestow to the young. I think this was an excuse to be prey on young boys. When it was not accepted to mess with boys, older men would resort to slave boys, as they were considered property. And yes there are straight child molesters and pervs
scginda803 2 years ago
Older men also engage in sex with young girls......older women also engage in sex with young boys....and there is no need to look to ancient Rome....just google it. Whats your point? there are straight pervs and gay ones.....AND?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
There are straight people. There are straight pervs. There are gay pervs. You can not be gay without perversion, that is all. I mentioned ancient rome as an example of the origin of gays. Humans weren't always like that, at least from a historical standpoint. But we can debate history, which would neglect all that we know.
scginda803 2 years ago
What about the Egyptian evidence of homosexuality thousands of years before Roman times? One would almost have to be slightly retarded, or devoutly religous to not realize that homosexuality has been around as long as hetrosexuality.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
Laced a lil tight, is that what you call someone who is firm in their beliefs? If gays and abortion why not polygamy? If polygamy, why not bestiality(There are groups pushing for this)? Necrophilia? etc. Gays used to be put to death in America. Now they act happy and play the victim, AND GET AWAY WITH IT. My kids will have it bad. Swingers everywhere. Gays everywhere. Thats why Muslims hate America, cause we are the land of the "Free of Moral"
scginda803 2 years ago
There is a big difference between firm beliefs and blatent stupidity. Abortion is a hetrosexual female issue.....as I am not a hertosexual female, I am unable to speak on that topic with any credibility. Polygamy is also a hetrosexual issue.....there is no gay lobby for polygamy......so this is also a moot point. Beasts are unable to concent to marriage......relating that to this topic is also a total fail. Muslims enjoy a constitutional protection of religion is this country.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
You are rather naive or incompitent regarding this debate. Bestiality/zoophilia has nothing to do with animals marrying people. I never spoke of gay polygomy, theres no such thing. Credibility? Thats good. But insignificant. Attempting to protect another human life doesnt require credibility just morals but ur gay, I understand.But hey, you are right about Muslims having freedom of religion in this country, I'll give you that ONE. Now who's blatently stupid?
scginda803 2 years ago
All the muslim Americans I know are happy, well adjusted people......How does this relate to the topic? Do you have anything to offer besides silly unrealistic scenarios, and unbased fear mongering?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
@scginda803: Drawing comparisons between gays and pedophiles is ignorant at least. Being gay doesn't destroy anyone's lives, being pedophile does. Apart from that you say, that these politicians acted right, but that nobody should hate homosexuals. So what you're actually saying is, that homosexuals should be descriminated against, but not hated. What? Did you really think about what you wrote there? If yes, you should do it again.
KroxiGore07 2 years ago
AIDS is not destroying your life? Homosexual men molest boys at a rate 4X higher then straight men molest girls. Look at the history of homosexuality and you will see where it started. I think you are the ignorant or naive one hear.
scginda803 2 years ago
there's a difference between pedophilia and androphilia you know
02puravida 2 years ago
You know what? I guess the rate of child molesters, that were victims of pedophiles in their childhood is ten times higher than those who weren't. So why don't we discriminate against victims of pedophiles? Sounds like a good idea according to your argumentation. A statistical correllation does not justify discrimination of any kind. If this were true all men should be discriminated against.
KroxiGore07 2 years ago
What are you talking about? I responded to a question you asked. But gays have higher numbers of alcoholics, depression, and suicide. Blame it on the straight people that harass them, yea yea. Black people weren't commiting suicide cause they were taught they werent equal. And jews dont commit suicide. If you are gay, it goes beyond people not accepting you. Something is mentally wrong. Pedophiles, murderers, and thiefs are all discriminated against. Why not gays if you really want to go there?
scginda803 2 years ago
Well, first of all, I didn't ask you, wether being gay destroyes the lives of others, I stated that it doesn't. Aids destroyes lives and pedophiles destroy lives, but being gay alone doesn't do any harm to anyone. Your argumentation actually is inconsistent in a few points, which should have been clear after my previous post. I will point it out again: You are trying to say, that a group of people (homosexuals) should be descriminated against, because there are statistically more...
KroxiGore07 2 years ago
I would be depressed if I did the best I could and my child chose to partake in a disgusting, highly immoral lifestyle. That would not destroy, but definately affect my life in a negative manner. Not all assaulted by pedophiles lives are destroyed. It depends how you cope, if you can remember, or if you felt justice was served. Being gay alone doesnt destroy lives, being a pedophile alone, doesnt destroy lives, being a sociopath alone, doesn't destroy lives. But their wrong.
scginda803 2 years ago
The law is that way. If I associate with Muhammed Al-Jafeer only a weekly basis, I lose my right to privacy.If I did a crime and served the time, I still can't get a gun cause they know statistically I'm more likely to do it again. If Im mentally ill, I cant adopt a child cause of what COULD happen. It's okay, gays won't be alone, they just have to understand why they're being discriminated against.
scginda803 2 years ago
Quote your source. Where are you getting these figures?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
If I go back and find sources, what will that do for you? It will waste my time. You'll probably still be gay or pro-gay marriage so theres no point. However, you can easily find statistics from recent studies if you want, there all on the internet.
scginda803 2 years ago
It proves that you are talking out your ass. It proves that your just a babbling idiot. The vast majority of men who molest young boys identify as hetrosexual. Look up your local sex offender site.....you would almost have to be retarded to believe that any subgroup is giving hetrosexual men any competition for the title of "largest demograph of sex offenders". As a straight man....please tell us......why do you and your friends like raping little children, and underage girls?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
My friends to my knowledge dont rape little children or underage girls. What you have to see is the big picture my boy.
Being that homosexuals make up 1-2% of the population(according to several sources), the rate of molestation is higher for homosexuals. If straight people(98% of the pop.) molest 90% of the kids, it is still at a lower rate than 2% of the population molesting 10% of the kids. In reality, homosexuals molest at about 30%. 70%/98% is much less than 30%/2%.
scginda803 2 years ago
@scginda803
Once again......what sources? Your silly made up figures are nothing but outright lies. Quote your sources.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
Can you please show me where you found Dr.Judith Reisman conducted this study and that she used the same material from Paul Cameron? Please quote your sources. 2nd CDC says that about 2% of the population is homo. Bell-Weinberg, 1970 (~2 percent); Billy-Battelle, 1993 (1.1 percent); Cameron-Ross, 1975-78 (~3 percent); Catania-NABS, 1992 (2 percent); FRI, 1983 (5.4 percent); MacDonald, 1988 (2 percent); NCHS, 1988-91 (3.5 percent); Schmidt, 1987 (0.6 percent); and Trocki, 1988-89 (3 percent)
scginda803 2 years ago
Just google Dr. Reismans study in the times........100's of referrences come up.The 1993 Janus Report estimated that nine percent of men and five percent of women had more than "occasional" homosexual relationships.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
From a limited group of 125 individuals. Thats not enough to attain a precise conclusion.
scginda803 2 years ago
Hmmmm........and the conclusions your quoting from the "Times Study" are all unsubstantiated by any acredited profesional association, and promoted by right wing religous sites.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
The American Psychological Association agrees, "Another myth about homosexuality is the mistaken belief that gay men have more of a tendency than heterosexual men to sexually molest children. There is no evidence to suggest that homosexuals molest children."
According to these reputable studies, gay men are actually less likely to molest children.
How does it feel to be a liar.....and more or less a total piece of shit? I wouldn't know.....so maybee you could share?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
"There is no evidence to suggest that homosexuals molest children."
Once you read that, you should have dismissed this source immediatly. Every group molest children. Men, women, straight, gay, etc.
Stats say otherwise buddy.
Drs. Freund and Heasman of the Clark Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto reviewed two studies on child molesters and calculated that 34% and 32% of the sex offenders were homosexual. In cases these doctors had handled, 36% of the molesters were homosexuals.
scginda803 2 years ago
The Los Angeles Times conducted a survey in 1985 of 2,628 adults across the U.S. Of those, 27% of the women and 16% of the men had been sexually molested. Seven percent of the girls and 93% of the men had been molested by adults of the same sex. This means that 40% of child molestations were by homosexuals.
There are also studies that show homosexuals have higher rates of depression, suicides, and other forms of mental disorder.
scginda803 2 years ago
@scginda803
Not only are you stupid...your wrong. The Los Angeles Times didn't conduct this survey, Dr, Judith Reisman did. Her "so called" study has no factual basis and has been dismissed by the AMA. The Times refers to her as a leading expert, when in fact much of her research is merely recycled conjecture obtained from Paul Cameron. Cameron was dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association in 1984 for ethical violations concerning his biased and fraudulent research.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
@scginda803
Google "PROOF OF NEGRO INFERIORITY" and you will find hundreds of pages of supporting documentation. Does this mean its true?.......or does it just mean that fucktards like you know no racial boundaries?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
It may be true, what does the evidence say. I'm black, but I'm not going to dismiss the evidence if it has credence. I being an African American might be at a disadvantage to a caucasian in a long distance run because I don't possess as many Type 1 fibers. I may be at a disadvantage also because I possess higher levels of testoterone, which makes me more succeptible to getting angry. Whats your point bro?
scginda803 2 years ago
My point is obvious......just a few years back the same bigots were using the same tired talking points to make you a second class citizen.......and still are. Hows it feel?
clubindiana4 2 years ago
I, knowing the history of bigotry in regards to race am not bothered by the perception of those that hate who I am. It is easy to hate what you dont understand. It is a result of having pride in who you are. Question. Have you seen the commercial where the pig says "I'm just enjoying the taste of a fallen friend"? Is anything wrong with cannabilism in your understanding? If so, why? If not, why?
scginda803 2 years ago
Under normal circumstances cannabalism is not a very attractive practice. However......if you and I were on a plane that crashed in the Alps and you didn't survive.......I can't promise there wouldn't be a barbecue featuring dark meat :)
clubindiana4 2 years ago 2
Watch it on HBO.
jbugko 2 years ago
Guys stop being so stupid. If you're a homophobe get off this video and go watch one of your gay bashing ones. And FYI, don't speak for the rest of humanity, just because something applies to you, doesn't make it law. Everybody's bi, and some people choose to be gay? And even heterosexual homphobes, if you won't ALLOW my dirty ass to get married, also pass a law for which you don't have to accept my dirty tax money. I feel as though it's every man for himself, we have to be more proactive...
navdizzle 2 years ago
about demanding what's owed to us. We have to wait until we're given permission to get married? Every homophobe word activates a mentality that it's acceptable to pick on LGBT children in schools, it's those same people who are responsible for every hate crime. Why aren't our rights a priority? Don't even say gay marriage spoils the holiness of marriage, you guys are quite content with the idea of divorce because it suits you. Gay rights need to be taught in history. Ok, I've had my rant now : )
navdizzle 2 years ago
Just watched the movie. It was very compelling. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
TheRockstarStacy 2 years ago
where can i watch the whole documentary!? help
candieondabch 2 years ago
It's being shown on HBO. If you have "On Demand" you can view it at any time under the HBO documentary section.
jbugko 2 years ago
for anyone wondering what the piano music is at the beginning it's a Chopin Waltz, Op. 64 No. 2.
Ungoliant101 2 years ago
I think if you make the law,, you should abide by it. I do not know if I agree with this documentary, but I do believe you can not legislate against yourself or your own life style and be affective.Most of the laws that affect homosexuals attack basic human rights and should be considered inaffective legislature. But who am I to say.. people run on fear, I have no idea how to make that different.
uhaulhasaflatt 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"OUTRAGE" documentary what a fucking stupid fuck, what is really outrages is dehumanizing the human specie, such is unprecedented ignorance in human histry.
project488 2 years ago
What?
CivilizedJerk 2 years ago
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1hungryghost 2 years ago
Cheap entertainment. Almost all men are physically and sexually attracted to other men, they just CHOOSE to live their lives with women.
And nobody takes rights away from gays. They have all the basic rights every human being has. Getting married is a procedure, not a natural, human individual right, so give me and the rest of the world a break.
xXTheProMeisterXx 2 years ago
Woah woah woah! Hold up. Straight men are *not* attracted to other men. That would make them bisexual. And if bisexual (and gay) men are living in a closet, pretending to be straight while backing anti-gay legislation then they do need to be outed.
As long as a person hates, hides, and is despises something inside of themselves they will project those negative feelings onto others who they feel display that element.
regemo 2 years ago
That's what I said - most men and women are bisexual (you don't need to lecture me), some choose to be heterosexual, others choose to be homosexual, i.e. some choose to live their lives with a person of the same sex, others with a person of the other sex. Simple as that.
So not all bisexuals and gays even want to get married. You need to stop thinking ALL gay and bisexual people think the same - we DON'T!
And not supporting gay marriage has NOTHING to do with hating gays.
xXTheProMeisterXx 2 years ago
"And not supporting gay marriage has NOTHING to do with hating gays"
Come on, Lots of people hate homosexuals and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. They just hate them cause they grew up in a culture who hated them.
CivilizedJerk 2 years ago
it does, because there are benefits for being married that non married people can not get. And
ignigenaquintus 2 years ago
Directed bt Kriby Dick LOL
MrSmiles1994 2 years ago
Republican Governor Charlie Crisp of Florida who is the main hypocrite outed in this documentary just announced he is running for US Senator for the state of Florida. He got married last year to. This man needs to be outed so bad!!
CivilizedJerk 2 years ago
It's Crist, unless you were making a joke so he sounds like Quentin Crisp. I was surprised he got married last year. I thought I could deal with him being closeted, but he went as far as to beard himself, too.
CyborgNinja7 2 years ago
anyone know where you can watch it online for free?
whatAfloozie 2 years ago
It's just hitting the theaters now.
CivilizedJerk 2 years ago
I can't wait to see this...
zizizzi 2 years ago
Wait just a second here!, you mean members of the DC Mafia are hypocrites, bold face liars and frauds? noooooooooo
They F us all like a little boy Page, or alter boy, anyway..
Govtflu 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me whats the name of that piano song? TQ
azzurre13 2 years ago
I can't wait for the fil either. One of the folsk being outed, supposedly, is the governor of my state, Florida.
DivineBear 2 years ago
You didn't know that your Govenor was gay?
zizizzi 2 years ago
Can't wait to see the documentary. Good to see the hypocrites exposed.
Glas45 2 years ago
if the film is out people then why cover their faces
sickntired08 2 years ago
Some people's faces are covered because they are the witnesses to the closeted gay behavior(ie, "I slept with that Senator"). Witnesses often have their face blurred in documentary-style footage, just as sources in newspaper articles are often anonymous. I'm sure they also cover the closeted politicians' faces too because they want to give people an incentive to see the movie to find out exactly who's been outed(assuming some of the faces blurred in the trailer aren't blurred in the full film).
sarah95pekoe 2 years ago