It is assumed that 99.9% of all species are extinct. Not because we have found those fossils but because macro evolution assumes that many missing fossils. And yet upwards of 60-90% of current living animals are represented in the fossil record! A known factor we can check rate of fossilization against. Thus we have EMPIRICAL evidence the fossil record is not 99.9% incomplete based on animals we know exist! Thus we know those needed missing animals never existed. Source (Dr. Michael Denton)
Actually, in May, scientists working with various proteins and amino acids analyzed, deconstruction, and then reconstructed a cell, and as it reproduced, the first artificial life form. Proof that you don't need some all-powerful entity to create life; though you would need billions of years of evolution to get complicated life-forms like we have today.
K i just finished up the last segment of those 3 so go ahead and watch the third one of the ones that I sent you.
I like how how the title was let's talk to an evolutionist and the only people there was the host and a creation scientist who knows nothing about how evolution actually works.
Ah, typical evolutionist. Those scientists use to be evolutionists. They know all about evolution. They studied Darwinism for years. They are just saying the more closer they examine the more they notice that these things are perfectly designed. They are saying these aren't just some blobs, these are extremely complicated things, and they are more complicated than our cars. It's like saying my car evolved. That just seems ridiculous. I'll watch the rest of that series right now.
There's 15 parts in that series. The deal was for you to watch the first 3. Of course if you want to watch them all then go ahead.
Typical theist thinking that life started out complex. Life started off with a simple protein replicator or something. No dna or complexity only chemistry.
@ ilikejpgs I'm going to bed dude. It's 12:30 and i have to be up early. I will come back on this thread and check out the videos you want me to watch. Take care dude.
I am just throwing some more videos out there. This is a 7 part series. Once again, I'm just throwing it out there. I will watch all the videos you throw at me, but I'm not asking you to watch this if you don't want, but it's there if you want to. "Scientists presents Proof of Intelligent Design ! Charles Darwin - Origin of Species - Evolution Disproved" this video is even more credible than the other ones I showed you.
"Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 1 of 3" "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 2 of 3" "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 3 of 3"
FOr everyone one of mine you watch I will watch one of yours. I will start with part one of yours in a minute. I have seen every possible argument in favor of intelligient design. Of course it can't be as bad as the banana man.
Meh. He is right when most Christians do believe in evolution. That was mentioned in the one video I showed you. It's the ones that have the Holy Spirit that can't be fooled like he said. There are too many religious people putting on a show, and not as many people with a true relationship with Jesus. The argument isn't as strong that strong, but he does get his point across.
You have to create a fun atmosphere with out pressuring the kids. There has to be some order in church just like anywhere, but freedom is what God stands for. I can't stand that old fashioned style of church where you and especially your kids sit down and shut up, than they go to the local family restaurant and the kids are running around all over the place. Now how does that set any example of being a christian. The main reason for atheism is Christians.
Us creationists at least don't depend on the peoples money for our research. We support our own beliefs. I can't believe that my money goes toward supporting what I call the enemy. I might as well send money to support the KKK. It actually is going toward the KKK when you get down to it. The KKK believes that blacks and colored people are the inferior species. So my money is supporting their idea. It disgusts me really.
The fact that you still haven't disproved God's existence must mean that He exists. The fact that millions or billions of dollars of our money has to go toward proving God doesn't exists is pathetic. If everyone would just let this evolution thing go that money could go toward much more important things. What a waste of time and money.
Tax payers money doesn't pay for that. If I believe in God I will build a building so we can have a place to gather. Now what's your beef with that. My money is going toward your religion.
To which comment of mine are you asking why to? If it's for evolution then check out how viruses and bactieria become drug resistant. Or how fossils have been found of transitions between current primates and the ancestors.
I know all about that stuff. Have you heard of spraying crops to get rid of the bugs that eat the crops? Did you know that those same bugs have offspring, and those offspring are immune to the spray. This is the same with bacteria and viruses. This is not evolution, this is called immunity.
So my wife came from Peru, she suffered from hypothermia while waiting for a bus it was so cold out. If I was with her at the time beside her I would have not had that same experience. I would have been cold, but my body is more likely to survive the cold because I have been through so many cold days and winters. Is this micro evolution? If this was studied in any way would you call it natural selection?
Possibly I'm not completely sure. But this is why some people who have been in the cold a long time don't mind it. Where as other people who have little or no experience in the cold don't like it at all.
Yes, this is easy to point out. I am saying that my wife was suffering from hypothermia. This means she was close to dying in a sense. Now because I had experienced more cold days than her I would have thought almost nothing of it. In your theory the fact that I was able to survive longer than her says that this is natural selection, and your argument also would claim that I am some super human because I am immune. This is your claim about viruses and super viruses.
This immunity could be a defense mechanism from God so that the species wouldn't die off so easy. Thank God that we develop immunity to things or the human race probably wouldn't last long at all.
No it;s from evolution not god. But if you want to attribute the good things to god then you must attribute the bad things as well. Can't be cherry picking.
What bad things are there from God? I don't like the idea of God being just, but He is a just God. This is why He tells us we need the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the only pure thing available. We can have it if we want to. It's just God can't let us into heaven with our sin filled souls. The Holy Spirit comes inside of us, and than we are considered white as snow meaning were are considered sinless when we leave this world. It's a free gift.
The holy spirit and god are the same thing. The trinity was just made to try and explain away the violent parts of the bible from the calm parts of it.
Great video. Evolution seems pretty much immune to creationists at this point in time. Now abiogenesis needs to be proven as well. In addition to the big bang and that the universe needs no designer.
You guys are still trying to prove that there is no designer? Kind of pathetic. It takes hundreds of years to disprove God's existence and you still can't do it. Still a reward of $250,000 reward for anyone with proof of evolution.
There is a designer. It is natural selection but it is simply a non sentient process. The burden of proof is on theists by the way. When I see people getting cancer and allergies that is all the proof I need for intelligient design. That and every disease on earth.
Did you know that God told us not to be greedy. Now, did you know that your shelf life for bread was only one day. This was until mankind wanted to take all the good things out of bread. Now you have a shelf life of a month or so. Now the bread companies make more money. Did you know that cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and every other kind of disease sky rocketed up 50% higher since they did that? God told us not to be greedy. omeone didn't listen. Now we have all these out of control diseases
This is just one example of many many other examples of how disease is out of control. If we did things right according to the Bible than we wouldn't have diseases like this. The cure for cancer is in apricot seeds by the way. But they won't tell you that. The only way the cyanide gets released is if it is confronted with a mutated cell. When it does this it kills that cell leaving the rest of the healthy cells alone.
If those bugs gave birth to birds, that is evolution. I bet you billions of dollars that no one has or ever will see a virus turn into something other than a virus. No matter how many times that virus changes or mutates it will still be a virus. Living things will give offspring to their kind and no other.
I'd like to see bugs giving birth to birds as well... that'd be a neat trick.
Your wish to see bugs giving birth to birds is NOT evolution. Simply by making this statement you show that you don't have the SLIGHTEST idea what evolution is.
You tell me that I know nothing about evolution, but you don't take the time to tell me the details of what your evolution consists of. That is the problem with evolutionists. There are 6 different types of evolution. Please explain to me how your evolution theory works. Does it not include mutations from one animal to a different animal? If it doesn't consist of that than you are supporting the bible when it says they bring forth their own kind.
So are you saying it didn't all come from one specific living organism? Are you telling me that there were thousands of original species? You lost me. Because in order for a fish to turn in to a human at some point you have to have a transition from different kinds of animals. Like I mentioned before, you evolutionists all have to have some sort of meeting to make sure you are all on the same page because I hear something different from each one of you.
I don't know all the specifics of evolution. I only know it in a nutshell. This is why I tell people to either look it up online or in a library. However it seems like they don't want to know more about it they only want to argue and say that is fake.
Well i know both sides. I had evolution shoved down my throat. I began compromising my Bible after a while because I began thinking it was true. I later got unwashed. I hope that everyone else gets unwashed one day. I have nothing against anyone that believes it because I was one, I have a problem with the fact that even professors believe this princess frog fairy tail.
I feel that same way. Yes, religion is shoved down kids throats, and they grow to resent it in the end a lot of times. There are better ways to influence a child to believe in God rather than shoving religion down their throats. I feel this way about evolution. In school it was shoved down my throat. I hope to God that my daughter grows up to love God. I hope I am doing it right. I don't force her to go to church, I ask her, and she always says yes. She loves it. We have lots of fun at church.
The best way is to wait for them to reach the right age. 12 or 13. Then tell them all the stories and let them choose. Since evolution is science that is why it is taught in school. One teacher I had told the whole class "this is what I am teaching you don't have to believe in it if you don't want to."
Both sides use science. Creationists use it with a bible beside them basically and say. The more they study the details of a cell the more they realize that it is impossible for this thing to be made by chance.
I really want you to watch this one video "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 1" Just one video that's all I ask. I will watch what ever video you want me to watch too.
I have looked up these so called hoaxes many times, and they have nothing. Evolutionists take desperate measures to hide anything of that sort. It's rather pathetic, and I'm sick of these lies being sent out to our kids. Evolution has to be proven first before it can even claim it as a fact. It's horrible!
Evolution has been proven and is fact no matter how blindly you wish to claim it not to be.
Transitional fossils, dormant genes, bones no longer of use to the creatures that possess them, bacteria EVOLVING to survive. One look at the flu virus shows you that it EVOLVES.
Explain a transitional fossil. Is a transitional fossil a human skull and an ape skull side by side? What is it? Are you saying that the missing link is found, how many links are there. And by the way, those bones that you say are no longer in use are still in use. The coccyx was found as a fact to fight infections in the human body. As for the vestigial legs in whales... These so called useless legs help strengthen the reproductive organs. As for your flu virus theory, it is still a virus...
Please point to peer-reviewed and published papers showing the coccyx as fighting infections. I think that they people who have had theirs removed with no problems may have interest in that.
Please show any peer-reviewed, published papers detailing how vestigial leg bones in whales are designed to protect the reproductive organs.
Explain the whales and dolphins that have been born with hind legs.
'Missing Link' - there is no 'missing link'. Evolution is a gradual process, therefore, ALL of the transitional fossils are 'missing links'. They show change over time.
I believe that is enough information for you to look up for now.
You know, it's amazing what a simple education can do for you if you are willing to learn and not take a creationists word as gospel.
If the virus turned itself into a fish, than you could probably call it a real sense of evolution. The kind of evolution that you are trying to prove. All you are seeing is a living organism that produced offspring that developed an immunity. This happens all over the place. Out where we live we have to change up, or make the pesticides two steps stronger because the bugs offspring aren't effected by the pesticides like their parents. This is immunity, not evolution.
They pulled off a layer of the human foot prints and the dinosaur footprints that were side by side so they could hide the fact that this was true. Guess what they found under that layer. More dinosaur and human footprints. Evolutionists ran to the site with crow bars as fast as they could to mutilate the footprints. They took desperate measures to hide any evidence that show humans and dinosaurs lived/live together.
Glen Kuban (the archeologist accused of 'destroying evidence') has gone on record numerous times about this false claim.
The claim has the year of the conference incorrect, they treat his trip as some sort of 'guilt' while he had it planned well before (evidenced by reservation records), photographs reportedly showing before and after are incorrect as weather reports at the time and photos taken by himself and others show.
I am confident in my faith so I find sources against my beliefs and get right in there. If you don't know how to use the internet, than you can't find sources, but if you do know how than you should be able to find sources all on your own. Right now I feel that maybe I should start with a crash course on how to use the internet before I start throwing off sources. Did you look up those subjects that I brought up to you? It's easy to do. Take care, and please research creation, than respond to me
You act as if I am not already familiar with the stories you proposed or that I did not look them up.
First, you did NOT meet the criteria that was specified. Links to sources and scientific peer-reviewed papers were part of the criteria. You did not present either. Also, simply saying 'what about...' does not discredit a proven fact.
I did address your 'what abouts' but you chose to notdo YOUR research and they were easily shown false or have nothing to do with evolution.
Your opening salvo was the paluxy river? Giant skeletons? You obviously haven't the slightest idea what research is as 2 minutes on google will show you these were hoaxes. This is your best shot and you expect people to concern themselves with taking the rest of what you say seriously?
Second, you pompously act as if you are somehow superior with your comments. Let me assure you that you are not. This is evident in you blind acceptance of well known hoaxes as truth. Sad
You honestly believe that giant skeletons posted in actual museums are hoaxes. The only ones who call them hoaxes are evolutionists that never studied them, but found was around the truth to make it seem like they are frauds. Yes I know all about that fraud stuff. You can photoshop pictures, but you can't deny giant bones that are filtered through archeologists and posted in a museum. Giant bones are found all over the place, almost as common as dinosaur bones. Paluxy River was not disproven
Please show one museum that has giant HUMAN skeletons or bones.
Paluxy River has been disproven so many times that the majority of creationists recognize it as a hoax. Not to mention that George Adams' (the man who "discovered" the tracks) family admitted to him CREATING the tracks as a HOAX.
All I'm saying is for years I have found sources all on my own. You can do it too. I can start throwing off sources and you would just go and say that I never did what you asked me to do. Believe me, I know how evolutionists work, and they are predictable, therefor easy to debate against. Seriously, if you are secure in your Darwinian faith you should find sources on your own, and be able to debunk those sources no problem if you are right.
For your own sake, actually take these evidence that don't support evolution, and look into it yourself. That's how I became a creationist, because I found alternative answers on my own. I gave you some sources to look up, now look them up. I looked up evolution for many years. Believe me when I say it's either ignorance, or laziness on your behalf if you can't find sources on your own. I look for sources that go against creation lots, and those sources are easy to debunk.
Anyone can say that the layers came millions of years ago, but no one has seen it happened. What we can see happen is a mixture of water and different types of dirt in the same jar, if you let the dirt settle you can see the layers form. Do you not think that these so called scientists that studied for years should maybe perhaps study these human artifacts, and try to figure out how in the heck did these things get under these million year old layers? Or did they just turn their head away?
First of all I have shown you things and mentioned things that throw evolution way off course. I took your challenge, and showed you things. You have the nerve to say that I never showed you anything? The things that I mentioned to you totally debunk evolution. You requested it, and I gave it. Apparently by the way you respond it seems like I didn't provide anything. Evolutionists are great for that. Prove evolution. Show me documents please. I want proof of evolution! it goes both ways.
Tracks of dinosaurs and human footprints are found all over the earth, ancient pictures and carvings from the days of babylon are etched on tones of walls with dinosaurs and humans together. Some cultures wonder why we teach that these creatures are millions of years old? They go and say, "ah, I have one of those in my back yard." Pygmies in the Kongo (Likouala swamp) see dinosaurs all the time to the day. Now why isn't this stuff publicized about all that much?
If you want me to post actual details on these debunked evolution theories I will. I just seriously want the truth out, and don't want anyone to be deceived by lies in any text book. You seem like a man who actually wants to hear the truth even if it does debunk or derail your belief.
Well, please do post your details that "debunk" evolution. That's what I asked for in the video. Post scientific, peer reviewed sources that show evolution to be false.
To date, no one has EVER disproven evolution. It's stood against scrutiny for 150 years and is known to be fact.
Do your research though... I do check on things and will point out if you are incorrect or the "evidence" you cite has already been disproven.
Human artifacts found underneath these layers and layers that are apparently millions of years old. They find human artifacts all the time under all these layers. It's not a rare occasion. Whale skeletons found straight up in the ground connecting the layers, trees are under the ground connecting the layers, palm trees found in the north and south poles in the ice connecting the ice layers , now a person doesn't even need science to figure out what happened, even though creationists use science.
I'm an extremely imaginative guy, more than your average person. I can easily take the layers on the earth, the bones, and all of this stuff and think up of some ridiculous story of how it came to be. It's so simple. I would especially do this if I didn't want to believe in God. I recognize creative works when I see it. The thing with evolution is that imagination is all I see. I can look at a bird and say it came from a rock or a banana, or I can have common sense and say that God made it.
If you do look at a bird and say it comes from a rock or banana you certainly are being imaginative because that's not at all what evolution says.
This video asks creationists to present this great proof they claim to have that evolution has been disproven (not opinion) and yet no one shows it. So where is this great proof it's been debunked?
Learn about evolution before attempting to say it's made up. You might learn something.
If you haven't heard of The Paluxy River than you haven't been the whole truth like millions of Americans. If you haven't heard of the truth about Neanderthal Man, Lucy, Piltdown Man, recovered giant bones, fossilised cowboy boots, human artifacts under layers that are supposedly millions of years old... (want me to go on?) than you have never heard the truth, and I feel sorry for you, and everyone else falling for this fairy tale.
Ah, the Paluxy River footprints - that were admitted as a hoax by the man who made them.
Neanderthal - what about it?
Lucy - Let me guess, you're going to say she's a hoax or your gonna go with Geerup's assertion that she's "just a monkey"? When you become an expert paleontologist let us know.
Piltdown Man - known for a LONG time to be a hoax
Giant Bones - Hoax. Try reading National Geographic or visit Snopes.
Fossilized Cowboy Boot - Hoax. Even if it weren't it doesn't change evolution.
How can giant bones be a hoax, when you find giant bones you find giant bones. When evolutionists found out about these human and dinosaur tracks they took metal sticks and started deforming the footprints. There is an actual video of an evolutionist standing in front of the footprints, and while he was talking people told him to turn around and look, and he didn't want to see it, so he just avoided the whole idea, and pretended they weren't there. If Lucy wasn't a monkey than what was Lucy?
"I can easily take the layers on the earth, the bones, and all of this stuff and think up of some ridiculous story of how it came to be..." jasonscfr
Do you even realize how many years it takes for trained experts to examine a new specimen before they determine its significance? For you to assert that they just make up stories, when you aren't a working scientist yourself, is just plain ignorant.
Wrong question. The correct question is, "What proof is there that evolution ever existed in a cosmic, chemical or macro level? Shifting the burdon of proof towards disproving evolution is like trying to disprove that watermellons are really blue on the inside until you look at the inside. Really?
The supernatural is not allowed, although the existance of nothing exploding to create everything is science. Use common sense and recognize that it is fantasy and not call it science.
I'm not shifting the burden of proof at all. Creationists like to repeatedly state that evolution is disproven and yet are unable to present this "highly regarded and well known" bit of evidence.
If you actually believe that evolution states "nothing exploding to create everything" you show you have no knowledge of evolution or understanding of scientific theories.
...Brazil nuts? Prickly pears? Maggots are good for us. Termites are good for us. Lots of things are good for us. Of all the millions of species that are good for us, a small few happen to be ergonomic and easy to eat. Chance wins. I'm not compelled.
Evolution can't be true, because we cant just spawn out from rocks!!
Not my argument, but a fundie was very adamant with this argument :P When asked if he really knew what he was talking about, he said that "Yeah, i've spent hours making this video" - no mention of whether he spent hours looking up the theory of evolution :P
These people will reference the bible as if it is the answer to everything without evidence to back it up i could easily reference Hop on Pop, doesnt make it the answer just confounds the person whos making a logical argument and the end result is just a series of insults that stray from the original question. You wont find a logical answer from creationists because they cant disprove evolution in a biblical light. I'm all for people having faith but dont drag it where it doesnt belong.
They don't know anything but Kent Hovind or Ray Comfort or any other shill out there. So, I am not sure you will get much of a good and honest response. hehe You might get lucky though.
It has never been debunked. We have discovered plenty of fossils, we have the genetics, we know the earth is millions of years old, we have embroyology, we have paleontology, we observe rapid evolution. etc.
Evolution is not a version of the truth, it IS the truth.
Good Day. Is your challenge still valid?
bosseproductions 3 months ago
It is assumed that 99.9% of all species are extinct. Not because we have found those fossils but because macro evolution assumes that many missing fossils. And yet upwards of 60-90% of current living animals are represented in the fossil record! A known factor we can check rate of fossilization against. Thus we have EMPIRICAL evidence the fossil record is not 99.9% incomplete based on animals we know exist! Thus we know those needed missing animals never existed. Source (Dr. Michael Denton)
thewordofgod2010 4 months ago
Actually, in May, scientists working with various proteins and amino acids analyzed, deconstruction, and then reconstructed a cell, and as it reproduced, the first artificial life form. Proof that you don't need some all-powerful entity to create life; though you would need billions of years of evolution to get complicated life-forms like we have today.
851852093114208513 1 year ago
wow thats classic! " in order for a scientific Theory (no wait..) FACT.. hahah what a FAIL!!!
cloud144000 2 years ago
K i just finished up the last segment of those 3 so go ahead and watch the third one of the ones that I sent you.
I like how how the title was let's talk to an evolutionist and the only people there was the host and a creation scientist who knows nothing about how evolution actually works.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Ah, typical evolutionist. Those scientists use to be evolutionists. They know all about evolution. They studied Darwinism for years. They are just saying the more closer they examine the more they notice that these things are perfectly designed. They are saying these aren't just some blobs, these are extremely complicated things, and they are more complicated than our cars. It's like saying my car evolved. That just seems ridiculous. I'll watch the rest of that series right now.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
There's 15 parts in that series. The deal was for you to watch the first 3. Of course if you want to watch them all then go ahead.
Typical theist thinking that life started out complex. Life started off with a simple protein replicator or something. No dna or complexity only chemistry.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
@ ilikejpgs I'm going to bed dude. It's 12:30 and i have to be up early. I will come back on this thread and check out the videos you want me to watch. Take care dude.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I am just throwing some more videos out there. This is a 7 part series. Once again, I'm just throwing it out there. I will watch all the videos you throw at me, but I'm not asking you to watch this if you don't want, but it's there if you want to. "Scientists presents Proof of Intelligent Design ! Charles Darwin - Origin of Species - Evolution Disproved" this video is even more credible than the other ones I showed you.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Ah, I have so many videos to show you. I understand if you don't want to watch them. It's all good dude. I'm going to watch the video you send me.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
oh yeah, it's a three part series. I already made my deal I guess. Life goes on haha!
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Well if you want me to watch all 3 then you watch 3 for me.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
will do dude
jasonscfr 2 years ago
um theres different sets of 3, one of them is reaching for the stars please specify
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
"Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 1 of 3" "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 2 of 3" "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 3 of 3"
jasonscfr 2 years ago
FOr everyone one of mine you watch I will watch one of yours. I will start with part one of yours in a minute. I have seen every possible argument in favor of intelligient design. Of course it can't be as bad as the banana man.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
hahaha!
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Ok I watched the first one. Here is the video I want you to watch.
watch?v=9RKQ7ukZKDk
It is part one of 15 but start with the first one.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
ok ill watch that one right now
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Meh. He is right when most Christians do believe in evolution. That was mentioned in the one video I showed you. It's the ones that have the Holy Spirit that can't be fooled like he said. There are too many religious people putting on a show, and not as many people with a true relationship with Jesus. The argument isn't as strong that strong, but he does get his point across.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Go ahead and watch number 2 in that series cuz I just got done watching part 2 of your videos.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
You have to create a fun atmosphere with out pressuring the kids. There has to be some order in church just like anywhere, but freedom is what God stands for. I can't stand that old fashioned style of church where you and especially your kids sit down and shut up, than they go to the local family restaurant and the kids are running around all over the place. Now how does that set any example of being a christian. The main reason for atheism is Christians.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
No the main reason for atheism is people realizing that "god did it" and "be a robot" is a load of made up crap.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Us creationists at least don't depend on the peoples money for our research. We support our own beliefs. I can't believe that my money goes toward supporting what I call the enemy. I might as well send money to support the KKK. It actually is going toward the KKK when you get down to it. The KKK believes that blacks and colored people are the inferior species. So my money is supporting their idea. It disgusts me really.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
What disgusts me is people telling me I am going to go to hell just because I don't believe like they do.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
The fact that you still haven't disproved God's existence must mean that He exists. The fact that millions or billions of dollars of our money has to go toward proving God doesn't exists is pathetic. If everyone would just let this evolution thing go that money could go toward much more important things. What a waste of time and money.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
"what a waste of time and money"
Yes I call that building 7 churches on every street.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Tax payers money doesn't pay for that. If I believe in God I will build a building so we can have a place to gather. Now what's your beef with that. My money is going toward your religion.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I don't have a religion. Evolution is not a religion.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Well you sure put a lot of trust in something that has never or can ever be observed.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Actually yes it can and has been observed and studied in the last few hundred years.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
How?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
To which comment of mine are you asking why to? If it's for evolution then check out how viruses and bactieria become drug resistant. Or how fossils have been found of transitions between current primates and the ancestors.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
I know all about that stuff. Have you heard of spraying crops to get rid of the bugs that eat the crops? Did you know that those same bugs have offspring, and those offspring are immune to the spray. This is the same with bacteria and viruses. This is not evolution, this is called immunity.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Yes that is micro evolution. Natural selection gives the bugs the ability to adapt to a need to survive.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
So my wife came from Peru, she suffered from hypothermia while waiting for a bus it was so cold out. If I was with her at the time beside her I would have not had that same experience. I would have been cold, but my body is more likely to survive the cold because I have been through so many cold days and winters. Is this micro evolution? If this was studied in any way would you call it natural selection?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Possibly I'm not completely sure. But this is why some people who have been in the cold a long time don't mind it. Where as other people who have little or no experience in the cold don't like it at all.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Yes, this is easy to point out. I am saying that my wife was suffering from hypothermia. This means she was close to dying in a sense. Now because I had experienced more cold days than her I would have thought almost nothing of it. In your theory the fact that I was able to survive longer than her says that this is natural selection, and your argument also would claim that I am some super human because I am immune. This is your claim about viruses and super viruses.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Not super at all. Just have an advantage from more cold exposure. Same with viruses. They just become more resistant.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
This immunity could be a defense mechanism from God so that the species wouldn't die off so easy. Thank God that we develop immunity to things or the human race probably wouldn't last long at all.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
No it;s from evolution not god. But if you want to attribute the good things to god then you must attribute the bad things as well. Can't be cherry picking.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
What bad things are there from God? I don't like the idea of God being just, but He is a just God. This is why He tells us we need the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the only pure thing available. We can have it if we want to. It's just God can't let us into heaven with our sin filled souls. The Holy Spirit comes inside of us, and than we are considered white as snow meaning were are considered sinless when we leave this world. It's a free gift.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
The holy spirit and god are the same thing. The trinity was just made to try and explain away the violent parts of the bible from the calm parts of it.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Great video. Evolution seems pretty much immune to creationists at this point in time. Now abiogenesis needs to be proven as well. In addition to the big bang and that the universe needs no designer.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
You guys are still trying to prove that there is no designer? Kind of pathetic. It takes hundreds of years to disprove God's existence and you still can't do it. Still a reward of $250,000 reward for anyone with proof of evolution.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
There is a designer. It is natural selection but it is simply a non sentient process. The burden of proof is on theists by the way. When I see people getting cancer and allergies that is all the proof I need for intelligient design. That and every disease on earth.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Did you know that God told us not to be greedy. Now, did you know that your shelf life for bread was only one day. This was until mankind wanted to take all the good things out of bread. Now you have a shelf life of a month or so. Now the bread companies make more money. Did you know that cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and every other kind of disease sky rocketed up 50% higher since they did that? God told us not to be greedy. omeone didn't listen. Now we have all these out of control diseases
jasonscfr 2 years ago
This is just one example of many many other examples of how disease is out of control. If we did things right according to the Bible than we wouldn't have diseases like this. The cure for cancer is in apricot seeds by the way. But they won't tell you that. The only way the cyanide gets released is if it is confronted with a mutated cell. When it does this it kills that cell leaving the rest of the healthy cells alone.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Yes and dementia is caused by a demon right???? Stupid christian thinking.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
If those bugs gave birth to birds, that is evolution. I bet you billions of dollars that no one has or ever will see a virus turn into something other than a virus. No matter how many times that virus changes or mutates it will still be a virus. Living things will give offspring to their kind and no other.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I'd like to see bugs giving birth to birds as well... that'd be a neat trick.
Your wish to see bugs giving birth to birds is NOT evolution. Simply by making this statement you show that you don't have the SLIGHTEST idea what evolution is.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
You tell me that I know nothing about evolution, but you don't take the time to tell me the details of what your evolution consists of. That is the problem with evolutionists. There are 6 different types of evolution. Please explain to me how your evolution theory works. Does it not include mutations from one animal to a different animal? If it doesn't consist of that than you are supporting the bible when it says they bring forth their own kind.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
The kind that I am talking about are micro and macro. Macro is the same as micro only on a grander scale.
It doesn't change from one animal into another. Rather gradually from one ancestor into a desendent. You must have seen a crocoduck.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
So are you saying it didn't all come from one specific living organism? Are you telling me that there were thousands of original species? You lost me. Because in order for a fish to turn in to a human at some point you have to have a transition from different kinds of animals. Like I mentioned before, you evolutionists all have to have some sort of meeting to make sure you are all on the same page because I hear something different from each one of you.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I don't know all the specifics of evolution. I only know it in a nutshell. This is why I tell people to either look it up online or in a library. However it seems like they don't want to know more about it they only want to argue and say that is fake.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Well i know both sides. I had evolution shoved down my throat. I began compromising my Bible after a while because I began thinking it was true. I later got unwashed. I hope that everyone else gets unwashed one day. I have nothing against anyone that believes it because I was one, I have a problem with the fact that even professors believe this princess frog fairy tail.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Well I have a problem with people who shove crap down my throat. That and shove crap down kids throat.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
I feel that same way. Yes, religion is shoved down kids throats, and they grow to resent it in the end a lot of times. There are better ways to influence a child to believe in God rather than shoving religion down their throats. I feel this way about evolution. In school it was shoved down my throat. I hope to God that my daughter grows up to love God. I hope I am doing it right. I don't force her to go to church, I ask her, and she always says yes. She loves it. We have lots of fun at church.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
The best way is to wait for them to reach the right age. 12 or 13. Then tell them all the stories and let them choose. Since evolution is science that is why it is taught in school. One teacher I had told the whole class "this is what I am teaching you don't have to believe in it if you don't want to."
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Both sides use science. Creationists use it with a bible beside them basically and say. The more they study the details of a cell the more they realize that it is impossible for this thing to be made by chance.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
It hasn't been made by chance it has been made by natural selection. This is the driving force in evolution.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
But it all started by chance right?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
No it started with abiogenesis.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
please explain
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I don't know enough to explain it that well but just look it up online or in a book. I know you can find youtube videos as well.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
I really want you to watch this one video "Creation In The 21st Century - Lets Talk to An Evolutionist About Creation 1" Just one video that's all I ask. I will watch what ever video you want me to watch too.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Alright I'll watch your video but then you watch one for me.
Ilikejpgs 2 years ago
Definitely
jasonscfr 2 years ago
evolution in biology isnt the same as evolution in pokemon
PAKMAN52 2 years ago
I have looked up these so called hoaxes many times, and they have nothing. Evolutionists take desperate measures to hide anything of that sort. It's rather pathetic, and I'm sick of these lies being sent out to our kids. Evolution has to be proven first before it can even claim it as a fact. It's horrible!
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Evolution has been proven and is fact no matter how blindly you wish to claim it not to be.
Transitional fossils, dormant genes, bones no longer of use to the creatures that possess them, bacteria EVOLVING to survive. One look at the flu virus shows you that it EVOLVES.
Do your research.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
Explain a transitional fossil. Is a transitional fossil a human skull and an ape skull side by side? What is it? Are you saying that the missing link is found, how many links are there. And by the way, those bones that you say are no longer in use are still in use. The coccyx was found as a fact to fight infections in the human body. As for the vestigial legs in whales... These so called useless legs help strengthen the reproductive organs. As for your flu virus theory, it is still a virus...
jasonscfr 2 years ago
1.
Please point to peer-reviewed and published papers showing the coccyx as fighting infections. I think that they people who have had theirs removed with no problems may have interest in that.
Please show any peer-reviewed, published papers detailing how vestigial leg bones in whales are designed to protect the reproductive organs.
Explain the whales and dolphins that have been born with hind legs.
Explain human babies born with tails.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
2.
Explain the appendix and how it of no use with patients who have it removed are completely fine.
Explain flightless birds with wings that clearly show a defined use for flying but are too small to use.
Explain blind cave fish and lizards with vestigial eyes just below the surface of their skin.
Explain erector pili and body hair on humans. Erector pili (goose bumps) are used to 'puff up' an animal's hair to appear larger or provide warmth.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
3.
Look up transitional fossils. There are hundreds, if not thousands. If you don't know what a transitional fossil is then read a book.
Just for a few quick examples :
Tiktaalik, Archaeopteryx, Kutchicetus, Mesohippus, etc.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
4.
'Missing Link' - there is no 'missing link'. Evolution is a gradual process, therefore, ALL of the transitional fossils are 'missing links'. They show change over time.
I believe that is enough information for you to look up for now.
You know, it's amazing what a simple education can do for you if you are willing to learn and not take a creationists word as gospel.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
If the virus turned itself into a fish, than you could probably call it a real sense of evolution. The kind of evolution that you are trying to prove. All you are seeing is a living organism that produced offspring that developed an immunity. This happens all over the place. Out where we live we have to change up, or make the pesticides two steps stronger because the bugs offspring aren't effected by the pesticides like their parents. This is immunity, not evolution.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
They pulled off a layer of the human foot prints and the dinosaur footprints that were side by side so they could hide the fact that this was true. Guess what they found under that layer. More dinosaur and human footprints. Evolutionists ran to the site with crow bars as fast as they could to mutilate the footprints. They took desperate measures to hide any evidence that show humans and dinosaurs lived/live together.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Glen Kuban (the archeologist accused of 'destroying evidence') has gone on record numerous times about this false claim.
The claim has the year of the conference incorrect, they treat his trip as some sort of 'guilt' while he had it planned well before (evidenced by reservation records), photographs reportedly showing before and after are incorrect as weather reports at the time and photos taken by himself and others show.
This RUMOR is FALSE.
Do your research.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
I am confident in my faith so I find sources against my beliefs and get right in there. If you don't know how to use the internet, than you can't find sources, but if you do know how than you should be able to find sources all on your own. Right now I feel that maybe I should start with a crash course on how to use the internet before I start throwing off sources. Did you look up those subjects that I brought up to you? It's easy to do. Take care, and please research creation, than respond to me
jasonscfr 2 years ago
You act as if I am not already familiar with the stories you proposed or that I did not look them up.
First, you did NOT meet the criteria that was specified. Links to sources and scientific peer-reviewed papers were part of the criteria. You did not present either. Also, simply saying 'what about...' does not discredit a proven fact.
I did address your 'what abouts' but you chose to notdo YOUR research and they were easily shown false or have nothing to do with evolution.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
Your opening salvo was the paluxy river? Giant skeletons? You obviously haven't the slightest idea what research is as 2 minutes on google will show you these were hoaxes. This is your best shot and you expect people to concern themselves with taking the rest of what you say seriously?
Second, you pompously act as if you are somehow superior with your comments. Let me assure you that you are not. This is evident in you blind acceptance of well known hoaxes as truth. Sad
bloodomencp 2 years ago
You honestly believe that giant skeletons posted in actual museums are hoaxes. The only ones who call them hoaxes are evolutionists that never studied them, but found was around the truth to make it seem like they are frauds. Yes I know all about that fraud stuff. You can photoshop pictures, but you can't deny giant bones that are filtered through archeologists and posted in a museum. Giant bones are found all over the place, almost as common as dinosaur bones. Paluxy River was not disproven
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Please show one museum that has giant HUMAN skeletons or bones.
Paluxy River has been disproven so many times that the majority of creationists recognize it as a hoax. Not to mention that George Adams' (the man who "discovered" the tracks) family admitted to him CREATING the tracks as a HOAX.
Do research.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
All I'm saying is for years I have found sources all on my own. You can do it too. I can start throwing off sources and you would just go and say that I never did what you asked me to do. Believe me, I know how evolutionists work, and they are predictable, therefor easy to debate against. Seriously, if you are secure in your Darwinian faith you should find sources on your own, and be able to debunk those sources no problem if you are right.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
For your own sake, actually take these evidence that don't support evolution, and look into it yourself. That's how I became a creationist, because I found alternative answers on my own. I gave you some sources to look up, now look them up. I looked up evolution for many years. Believe me when I say it's either ignorance, or laziness on your behalf if you can't find sources on your own. I look for sources that go against creation lots, and those sources are easy to debunk.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Anyone can say that the layers came millions of years ago, but no one has seen it happened. What we can see happen is a mixture of water and different types of dirt in the same jar, if you let the dirt settle you can see the layers form. Do you not think that these so called scientists that studied for years should maybe perhaps study these human artifacts, and try to figure out how in the heck did these things get under these million year old layers? Or did they just turn their head away?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Ya know, you still haven't presented any evidence... only rambling.
I was quite clear in what responses were to be. Provide links to scientific, peer-reviewed papers showing that evolution has been disproven.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
First of all I have shown you things and mentioned things that throw evolution way off course. I took your challenge, and showed you things. You have the nerve to say that I never showed you anything? The things that I mentioned to you totally debunk evolution. You requested it, and I gave it. Apparently by the way you respond it seems like I didn't provide anything. Evolutionists are great for that. Prove evolution. Show me documents please. I want proof of evolution! it goes both ways.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Tracks of dinosaurs and human footprints are found all over the earth, ancient pictures and carvings from the days of babylon are etched on tones of walls with dinosaurs and humans together. Some cultures wonder why we teach that these creatures are millions of years old? They go and say, "ah, I have one of those in my back yard." Pygmies in the Kongo (Likouala swamp) see dinosaurs all the time to the day. Now why isn't this stuff publicized about all that much?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
If you want me to post actual details on these debunked evolution theories I will. I just seriously want the truth out, and don't want anyone to be deceived by lies in any text book. You seem like a man who actually wants to hear the truth even if it does debunk or derail your belief.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Well, please do post your details that "debunk" evolution. That's what I asked for in the video. Post scientific, peer reviewed sources that show evolution to be false.
To date, no one has EVER disproven evolution. It's stood against scrutiny for 150 years and is known to be fact.
Do your research though... I do check on things and will point out if you are incorrect or the "evidence" you cite has already been disproven.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
Human artifacts found underneath these layers and layers that are apparently millions of years old. They find human artifacts all the time under all these layers. It's not a rare occasion. Whale skeletons found straight up in the ground connecting the layers, trees are under the ground connecting the layers, palm trees found in the north and south poles in the ice connecting the ice layers , now a person doesn't even need science to figure out what happened, even though creationists use science.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
I'm an extremely imaginative guy, more than your average person. I can easily take the layers on the earth, the bones, and all of this stuff and think up of some ridiculous story of how it came to be. It's so simple. I would especially do this if I didn't want to believe in God. I recognize creative works when I see it. The thing with evolution is that imagination is all I see. I can look at a bird and say it came from a rock or a banana, or I can have common sense and say that God made it.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
If you do look at a bird and say it comes from a rock or banana you certainly are being imaginative because that's not at all what evolution says.
This video asks creationists to present this great proof they claim to have that evolution has been disproven (not opinion) and yet no one shows it. So where is this great proof it's been debunked?
Learn about evolution before attempting to say it's made up. You might learn something.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
If you haven't heard of The Paluxy River than you haven't been the whole truth like millions of Americans. If you haven't heard of the truth about Neanderthal Man, Lucy, Piltdown Man, recovered giant bones, fossilised cowboy boots, human artifacts under layers that are supposedly millions of years old... (want me to go on?) than you have never heard the truth, and I feel sorry for you, and everyone else falling for this fairy tale.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
Ah, the Paluxy River footprints - that were admitted as a hoax by the man who made them.
Neanderthal - what about it?
Lucy - Let me guess, you're going to say she's a hoax or your gonna go with Geerup's assertion that she's "just a monkey"? When you become an expert paleontologist let us know.
Piltdown Man - known for a LONG time to be a hoax
Giant Bones - Hoax. Try reading National Geographic or visit Snopes.
Fossilized Cowboy Boot - Hoax. Even if it weren't it doesn't change evolution.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
How can giant bones be a hoax, when you find giant bones you find giant bones. When evolutionists found out about these human and dinosaur tracks they took metal sticks and started deforming the footprints. There is an actual video of an evolutionist standing in front of the footprints, and while he was talking people told him to turn around and look, and he didn't want to see it, so he just avoided the whole idea, and pretended they weren't there. If Lucy wasn't a monkey than what was Lucy?
jasonscfr 2 years ago
"I can easily take the layers on the earth, the bones, and all of this stuff and think up of some ridiculous story of how it came to be..." jasonscfr
Do you even realize how many years it takes for trained experts to examine a new specimen before they determine its significance? For you to assert that they just make up stories, when you aren't a working scientist yourself, is just plain ignorant.
prschuster 2 years ago
Wrong question. The correct question is, "What proof is there that evolution ever existed in a cosmic, chemical or macro level? Shifting the burdon of proof towards disproving evolution is like trying to disprove that watermellons are really blue on the inside until you look at the inside. Really?
The supernatural is not allowed, although the existance of nothing exploding to create everything is science. Use common sense and recognize that it is fantasy and not call it science.
playmoney69com 2 years ago
I'm not shifting the burden of proof at all. Creationists like to repeatedly state that evolution is disproven and yet are unable to present this "highly regarded and well known" bit of evidence.
If you actually believe that evolution states "nothing exploding to create everything" you show you have no knowledge of evolution or understanding of scientific theories.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
...Brazil nuts? Prickly pears? Maggots are good for us. Termites are good for us. Lots of things are good for us. Of all the millions of species that are good for us, a small few happen to be ergonomic and easy to eat. Chance wins. I'm not compelled.
zachdecou 2 years ago
To suck the humor out of LithodidMan's post and supplant it with my own...
Ray Comfort's banana theory, I'm presuming if i remember correctly, is the theory that states bananas are proof of God's great plan because
1) They fit the human hand in such an ergonomic way
2) They have a convenient "tab" by which the consumer can easily open it
3) The peels fall away such that the pulp is perfectly exposed
4) They contain many nutrients that are good for us...
Care to explain FUCKING COCONUTS?...
zachdecou 2 years ago
I'll give it a shot:
1) Ray Comfort proved the banana is the atheist nightmare
2) Chuck Missner proved that peanut butter disproves evolution
3) Elvis Presley's favorite sandwich was peanut butter and banana
4) Elvis was the King.....
Need I go on?
Epic fail atheist!
LithodidMan 2 years ago
creationists can not disprove something that has never been proven
a01011399 2 years ago
Crickets anyone?
TheAwedCouple 2 years ago
Evolution can't be true, because we cant just spawn out from rocks!!
Not my argument, but a fundie was very adamant with this argument :P When asked if he really knew what he was talking about, he said that "Yeah, i've spent hours making this video" - no mention of whether he spent hours looking up the theory of evolution :P
Qieth 2 years ago
These people will reference the bible as if it is the answer to everything without evidence to back it up i could easily reference Hop on Pop, doesnt make it the answer just confounds the person whos making a logical argument and the end result is just a series of insults that stray from the original question. You wont find a logical answer from creationists because they cant disprove evolution in a biblical light. I'm all for people having faith but dont drag it where it doesnt belong.
psychodeathmonkey 2 years ago
Let me take a shot at it : Evolution has been disproven because it's incompatible with literal interpretation of the holy babble.
slipcurve 2 years ago
Yeah, that about sums it up.
BusterWolf23 2 years ago
Hey! Good luck with getting a response!
lairdofgarscaddon 2 years ago
You're not going to get much.
bdpickett 2 years ago
They don't know anything but Kent Hovind or Ray Comfort or any other shill out there. So, I am not sure you will get much of a good and honest response. hehe You might get lucky though.
good question :)
tattooskin72 2 years ago
The banana fits perfectly in the human hand, among other things... ;)
Killdozer6006 2 years ago
I'm going to be a good boy.
tattooskin72 2 years ago
oh come on... like you could :P
Baronesa1980 2 years ago
shit, i've been so good, i am practically a born again virgin.
tattooskin72 2 years ago
It has never been debunked. We have discovered plenty of fossils, we have the genetics, we know the earth is millions of years old, we have embroyology, we have paleontology, we observe rapid evolution. etc.
Evolution is not a version of the truth, it IS the truth.
Feredir28 2 years ago
Oh we know that but I'm sincerely looking to see what scientific proof theists can present. They make claims but never provide the proof.
bloodomencp 2 years ago
he know's. He's just calling them out on their bull.
bdpickett 2 years ago
Hello?
*tap tap tap*
I don't think there's anybody out there.
WHERE'S THE BEEF!
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago