These experiments were conducted decades ago... You'd think that with our modern technology we would have made some astounding discoveries involving drugs. But the law prevents this... Crazy fools.
hey i have 2 hits of acid. of course theres no way of knowing how strong they are. assuming they are normal potency. how long do you guys think id trip for? or be unable to talk to parents? cause i need to plan my trip out. as of now, i have like 12 hours, prob a little more. can anyone give me an idea of weither or not that will be enough time for me to come down from my trip enough to converse with adults again?
@dyllpickle94 Usually LSD trips will last for around 8-12 hours in my experience. Personally I find that I can talk to authority figures whilst tripping but I have tripped many many times so I think it comes down to how comfortable you would be in that scenario and what your prior experiences are.
@dyllpickle94 Well I've only ever done LSD twice and both times I took a single dancing bear tab which are supposedly 130mcg. It didn't last more than 12 hours. However, I do use 2C-E regularly and have tripped many times on it, often my 2C-E trips last a very long time even over 16-18 hours. With LSD you should be fine though.
@faridjabba LSD is probably the most safest drug there is, and yes, an LSD trip is the most incredible, amazing, fantastic, beautiful, breathtaking, phenomenal experience a human can have. It is my favourite drug by FAR.
@mdrndrum It depends on the strength of your tabs. I would recommend trying to do a little research on what you get because some tabs are stronger than others. For example, the first time I tried LSD I had a 'Dancing Bear' tab which are supposed to be 130mcg. This was a great dose, and very effective at just one tab. After that I only ever had 'Avatar' tabs which are quite a lot stronger: 180-200mcg. If you are getting standard street tabs in the US you should prob take 2 because they are weaker
@dominiccss LSD is quite safe, though how do you know that you're actually taking LSD? You could be ingesting 25I-NBOMe. DOB. DOI. 5-MeO-AMT. I encourage everyone to get a testing kit before swallowing any paper. Otherwise, stick with mushrooms so you know what you're putting in your body.
@Tengent Because the LSD I was taking was bought from an online seller in the netherlands. Many many people used him, and they all said it was acid. My trips all fit the description of an acid trip. The NBOMe chems can't be taken sublingually if I recall correctly, only buccally. The DOX chemicals have a strong bitter taste and longer come up time. With so many people sampling this acid coming from the same source, many of them long time acid trippers I am very confident it was the real thing.
All of you who bash modern psychiatry are welcome to go down to your local homeless shelter and pluck out a mumbling, confused, disheveled, self medicating human being and take him home to try and help him.
Just make sure you don't give them anything to stop their hallucinations, and don't ask for any financial support - otherwise you become guilty of what you bash psychiatry for.
i think spirit is a bullshit human idea, peoples ego trying to convince themself that "they" somehow escape death at the last minute while their bodies crumple away and they float off up into the air... We dont need spirit, we are a temporary arrangement, a sand castle on the beach. Where was your spirit in the infinite years preceeding your birth? you dont need it. Stop being scared this spirit stuff doesnt make any sense. The idea of completely dropping your identity and becoming all is better
The threshold dose of DMT is 1 milligram, meaning the minimum amount to make you feel it is at 1 miligram. And that is minimal effects.
The threshold dose of LSD is 10-20 micrograms. Imagine taking a milligram of LSD.
Check out thumbprint LSD trips lol, its like a 12 hour DMT trip. People think DMT is stronger because it is easier to reach that level than acid (youd need to eat a lot, and its expensive, and lasts too long for it to be enjoyable at that dose)
@carlosz882 That is actually just a theory. Its is theorized in the book the Spirit Molecule that Dmt is released in the womb, during REM sleep and moments before death. I do believe it is released when we dream, but not when we die. For instance, say your head got blown off by a tank. I guess your spirit doesn't make it to the next realm because the dmt didn't get out in time
I am happy I read his book on LSD psychotherapy a few times before experimenting with acid and mushrooms myself....
I NEVER used LSD 'just for fun' and I really think this man helped me prepare in a good way; mind you -- I had no internet in early 90'ies and I had to rely on library books material solely since acid was extremely hard to come by in Roterdam/ the Netherlands and not may peeps could tell you any usefull about it other than 'you will see leprecauns....'
@TheMrsilence im still learning dutch so will respond in english ;) i think thats pretty much everywhere, people view drugs as a away out, out of consciousness or reality, when definitely psychedelics like LSD or Psylocin are a way IN. :)
So sad he put the whole LSD experience in this insane psychiatric paradigm...Schizophrenia research, right. With that kind of pathetic outlook, just imagine what kind of trip you get...It's obvious to see Grof hasn't stepped out of that paradigm at all.
I find his description of his own "trip" -if we can call it that- not even slightly convincing...
I don't need to read his books: the video and my comment on it speaks for itself. We have all these heroes of this and heroes of that in society that people look up to and Grof is one of them. Yet isn't it obvious he's still in the materialistico authoritarian paradigm of an atomistic, mechanistic universe that can be accurately investigated and described by science bla bla? He didn't even turn his back on psychiatry for Darwin's sake! What does THAT tell ya?
@suddenlyitsobvious REALLY?! Did you actually, really even listen to the whole interview? You obviously didn't GET it.
You clearly have never read any of his literature?
I would highly recommend the exploration of the vast literature that Grof has authored.
Your comment makes you appear very ignorant & misinformed.
One of the defining characteristics of Dr. Grof has been how he has been in an almost continuous state of reinventing & modifying his paradigm- not just once or even several times.
Get it? Get what? That Grof is a scared, controlled pussy who didn't dare to ACTUALLY EXPERIMENT WITH LSD in a SANE setting? It is just MINDBOGGLING to take LSD in a psychiatric, controlled setting. How deluded the man is! (as are you!).
Of course he needs to pretend and claim it "changed his life".
"Your comment makes you appear very ignorant & misinformed"
Oh really? Well, perhaps the problem here is that my discourse doesn't square with authoritative myth & dogma.
You are obviously in denial of how toxic psychiatry is, this outrageous pseudo-science that has harmed millions and continues to do so. You are incredibly oblivious to how very wrong the setting is of the LSD-trip Grof describes, as well as his entire passive attitude, which of course has fully defined his "experience". The actual substance of his "trip" is just PATHETIC.
"One of the defining characteristics of Dr. Grof has been ...
...as stroboscopic lights are being flashed into his eyes?!!
There is so much wrong here I hardly know where to start.
Grof OBVIOUSLY doesn't get LSD, NOR the way it can reveal the human mind, and neither do you.
It is typical of people like you who can't think for themselves & can merely regurgitate that they always use the same terms: "uneducated", "ignorant" and soforth.
Anybody who knows what LSD is & looks at this footage with an open mind knows he FAILED.
I mean can you actually HEAR what he's saying, or does that interfere too much with your made up mind and what you were taught?
"So we had a group of people, about 40 people, that included ourselves, who would come to a research institute always for a day, & on a double-blind basis they would get one of these psychedelics or placebo, & then go through a series of tests, you know, collecting samples of blood every hour on the hour,...
... urine every hour on the hour, psychological tests, electro-physiological tests...A very very, kind of traditional scientific approach."
I mean it's just PATHETIC!!
Then they subjected psychotics & schizophrenics to same treatment, etc etc.
Can you see how the entire approach to mind expansion is being approached from the outset from a medicalizing, pathologising, normative, positivist perspective?
That there is no open-mindedness, heart, warmth, ...
...understanding here WHATSOEVER -which must per definition profoundly affect the experience?
That these "psychedelic experiences" are COMPLETELY RIGGED from the outset, and liable to generate pathetic, pathological states?
That there's a paranoid, normative, DIRECTING & ORCHESTRATING authority with a rigid set of concocted norms of normalcy & "mental health" "guiding" the experiment?
If you cannot see these things, DO NOT EVER, I repeat, DO NOT EVER take entheogens.
@suddenlyitsobvious LSD can also help a lot of mentally sick people to improve their life and Stanislav based his research on this. What's wrong with that?
@suddenlyitsobvious please let's stick to one topic at the time .. you cant mix everything together and demonize everyone who is involved in psychology - why do you think LSD (as a tool or medicine) in psychiatry (more precise, psychoanalytical psychotherapy) should make anyone shudder?
The LSD trip itself opens dimensions and sensitivities that are fundamentally antinomical with science.
This doesn't HAVE so be so, theoretically, if the "scientific method" were truly objective. But if we look at the REALITY of science, especially a "science" like psychiatry, the tripper is actually faced with A MONSTROUS mindset, affecting the trip VERY NEGATIVELY.
LSD can reveal the essence of our minds, of life, or at least a lot more of it.
@SamuelSkelter It's not exactly the same. Not at all... metaphorically they can be the same... Similar realization, yea.. but exactly the same, not even.
The experiments he's talking about were connected to the CIA, containing many criminal aspects, and there are connections with torture programs such as MK ultra.
One of the ABSOLUTE WORST settings for a LSD experience is no doubt a scientific one such as he describes. It's a completely traumatizing and insane setting, and Grof doesn't realize that had he succeeded his trip, he would immediately have turned his back on psychiatry and start a new life. Sad..
Anybody who gets LSD would never take it in the kind of experiments and settings he's talking about. Why would you say he does get it? Perhaps because you bought the official LSD mythology no doubt, of these "rebel pioneers" with a true vision of the human mind, braving the forces of conformity and authoritative control... Leary, Grof, Huxley etc. You really think they're trippers? Then what "mindblowing" in sights did they bring back from their trips? I've heard none. pompidom.
@suddenlyitsobvious From his story, it seems he didn't know what he was getting into since it was his first time, but he got it. The fact that he was in that environment and under going these test during his peek hours and he didn't describe a bad trip... instead He described a very mind blowing insight, you must not have heard it so u must not have experienced what he is describing.. You can't compare grof to Leary, it's apples and oranges
@suddenlyitsobvious this has got nothing to do with CIA .... read his books! the therapeutic use of LSD is very good and the setting in such sessions is beautiful
Hey guys. No point being angry at the "lying government". They just tried to protect us. I don't think there was any malevolent intent. Learn to forgive and move on. Thanks.
@paniq303 That' not why people hate the government. We should be able to put anything we want into our own bodys at a certain age limit! Our society has chose the worst drugs to make legal!! Drugs that narrow your mind and make you go to rehab. Did you know that there are more deaths from pharmaceutical drugs then there are illegal drugs. Get your head in the game! Reprogram your mind with psychedelics! LIVE AND LEARN.
@youdevil6 don't tell me, i know too well. and there's no need to be overly enthusiastic about it, even if you feel like it. we are not going to get this thing on the right track through emotional advertising; only by empathic reasoning and activism.
WOW! An old guy survived the evils of drugs. Take that Status Quo! Fears planted in our brains were worse than the real thing. Reports of suicides, horrors--secrets & lies presented as fact. Army personnel fed LSD without their knowledge. Many good men were driven mad NOT by LSD but by deceit. They didn't know the effects were temporary. They could've been enjoying the HIGH! But no! They faced weird music & whispering voices instead. Scientists drove them mad to prove non-existent dangers.
Excuse me? Have you ever taken LSD before? This is a drug which induces effects that we know very little about - The effects of which can be interpreted differently by different people. The experience on the drug is so fragile and so uncertain that anyone could have a bad trip. The severity of how 'bad' the trip is will depend on whether the person chooses to take their own life. People can become very awakened, but also very confused by LSD. Don't think there are no dangers.
@metaspherz Amen brother! It's called gaslighting and they, (the prohibition zealots) have been gaslighting the entire population. They say drugs lead to insanity but when you look at the institutions that enforce prohibition it is painfully clear who has gone insane and it's not the people taking the drugs. It's the people who dedicate their lives to destroying the lives of people who take drugs in order to full-fill their prophecy. anti-drug zealots == nazis and witch hunters
My 1st trip was a tiny drop on the tongue when I was 20. There were 5 of us off-duty military guys in my apartment on a Friday afternoon with lots of munchees & a TV. I was the only 1st timer of the bunch. I had to be talked into it but I was curious anyway. It hit me quick & lasted about 36 hours. I had a date Sat night but it didn't go well since I had gone without sleep & I was still tripping. It was our 1st & last date btw. She knew something was weird about me--my dilated eyes. Memories...
@metaspherz Are you sure you didn't get a DOB tab instead of LSD, this can often happen and sounds a bit more like what you experienced.
@Atraldreams Chewing salvia works, as far as I know but I'm not sure of the time scale, I would assume it lasts longer but not too sure. Also, it's said to be a smoother trip for most people, most likely because of the slower onset.
@SkyEatsKyle The LSD came in a small glass vial. We dipped pins into it & put a drop, hence the term dropping acid, onto our tongues. The label said Sandoz. In the military one could always get the best drugs. Later on I took orange sunshine, a thin rolled paste in a small waxed paper envelope. I took it all not knowing it was a 5 way hit. That trip was weird but pleasant. Quality suffered once I started college. Various pills & blotter acid was all we could get.
@metaspherz You are a very lucky person! A person could only dream of getting that now without being closely connected to someone manufacturing it or mass selling it. It's an amazing substance though.
@SkyEatsKyle Yes, I was lucky. I didn't know it then. I'd the notion that I'd never be the same again. I'd 'seen things' that most persons wouldn't for fear of losing their sanity. I've always advocated the experience to the brave & curious. Plus, sharing it with others. The new perspective I gleaned in the early '70's, thanks to its recreational & spiritual benefits, allowed me to appreciate the good & to tolerate the bad that came later. It's wonderful to know that the dream lives on.
Daily meditation and related practices such as pranayama aka "holotropic breathwork", blows away all psychedelics (hence Grof's current technique). We just have to practice consistently enough, with the right techniques, to alter our neurochemistry, so that access to all realms becomes permanent. That's why Ram Dass's guru didn't get high from a mega-dose of mega-acid (see the Ram Dass video "Part of LSD History Part 3 of 3). Peace.
@LivingUnbound... Ram Dass guru didnt get high from the mega dose cos he was already there permanently....and psychedelics ARE just as valid as pranyama/yoga practice and meditation ..many western zen monks became monks only after taking their first and only LSD trip....and grofs current technique would not have been developed if it werent for his dabbling with LSD
lol...imagine being in that double-blind study. half the people scratching their heads, "i guess i feel a little different. i dunno.." and the others with a huge grin on their faces goin "ohhh yeaaahhh"
gotta love that 'looking over the edge of the rollercoaster' feeling,
Being part of a laboratory study of psychedelics must have been stressful as well as anticipatory. Desiring the real effects while dealing with the sugar rush must have been a trip unto itself....
ROOFLL me and my friends were alll fryin and i put these blinking rave glasses on my friend, came back 20 minutes later, and he went totally insane hahaa. STAY AWAY FROM BLINKING LIGHTS THEY TAKE YOU TO ANOTHER WORLD HAHAHA
lsd is a growth produced by ergot in very close the absolutely zero degree. its an acid that "spits" on paperwalls. the fascinating thing it needs so many year of chemist education and is made illegal. most cost million million of millions of million dollar to build this kind of thing. real great drug, you can see what you are doing to yourself (others) . thanks
DMT, it's produced when we sleep. Apparently when we're in deep REM sleep our mind produces a shit ton of it and we're going through a huge trip when we fall asleep.
Read books such as "The Doors of Perception/Heaven and Hell", "The Electric Kool-aid Acid Test" and "Acid Dreams: LSD a complete social history".
Failing access to such content search a documentary here on you tube called "The Beyond Within". For if taken in a safe and familiar setting with a sound mind and liver it can open the doors to endless self-discovery.
The LSD experience is about entering a realm that was thought to be only accessible to the so called "spiritually enlightened" (through methods such as fasting and meditation i.e. Buddah) or the mentally insane. It has a great potential to help map the mind although this is not to say it isn't dangerous and my best advice for anyone considering their first LSD experience is to RESEARCH.
LSD? Only if you know how to store it correctly. Long term storage: wrap in foil, in several airtight baggies, place in a amber glass container with alcohol inside, store in freezer. Should be good for a long time.
yes, set and setting are essential, and it should not be a street drug experience. Albert Hofmann called these "sacral" drugs, substances to be used with reverence and caution
So basically he's saying that drugs can alllow us to explore inner space??? How does that help us to understand outer space??? And could we be hurt in the process kind of like how an astronaught can be hurt if they don't have proper protection and training? Could it be that as psychonaughts, not having proper training or protection can be harmfull instead of insightful?
"So basically? he's saying that drugs can alllow us to explore inner space???"
Basically, yes. And this is nothing new. Numerous indigenous cultures have used various psychedelic substances for millenia to explore consciousness and subjectivity e.g., salvia divinorum, marijuana, ayahuasca, peyote, mushrooms, etc.
"How does that help us to understand outer space???"
Entheogens are not only for helping us to understand outer space; we already know a lot about outer space - they're mainly to help us understand inner space / consciousness.. i.e., that "space" about which we know very little.
@mermadeinheaven thats so true!!! i fucked up my life with that lsd! when i took it i started to think about out space...and i get it now!! and its horrible...!! don't do it ever!!!
Yes, which is why technologies can be used to determine subject suitability by eliminating those who show potential for adverse reactions, e.g., biofeedback can be used to test subjects and detect psycho-physiological anomalies (i.e., fear, anxiety, apprehension, etc) which would interfere with the use of certain substances.
"Could it be that as psychonaughts, not having proper training or protection can be harmfull instead of insightful?"
Yes again. In the same way that driving a car can be dangerous for those who demonstrate signs of mental instability or physical disability etc; use of entheogens is not for everyone.
Funny that you mention salvia, apparently it must be getting extremely popular and it would make sense being that it's still mostly legal.
I just recently bought an ounce of Emerald Goddess sub-lingual salvia extract, I've used it only twice and I must say that it works quite well, it's much more pleasant than smoking, because smoking, pretty much every single time, no matter how conscious I am prior, I find myself having NO IDEA whatsoever as to how I ended up there, and that is frustrating
Everything that Stan is saying here and more is contained within his audio documentary "The Transpersonal Vision" which is definitely worth seeking out and using. It has the potential to inspire beneficial changes as well as make a powerful impact on to ones life if used properly, carefully, and diligently. Good luck to everyone on your journeys.
Psilocybin is 4-phosophyrloxy-n-n-di-methyl-tryptamine, it has n-n-dmt in the name but honestly I don't know if I have ever heard anyone making statements about them being the same thing, so I can't comment.
As for learning about psychedelics on youtube comments:
It is a BAD idea, a definite bad idea. I plead with anyone who is interested in learning about psychedelics to do some real research and figure it out for yourself.
Good advice on the youtube "research." Professional research on these subjects has (thankfully) proliferated in recent decades despite popular scorn, unfounded fears, and prejudices thereto. Shouldnt be hard to find for anyone willing to look.
Psilocybin is not "the same thing" as DMT...though the experience is in some ways very similar. DMT is much shorter (5 or 10 minutes) and MUCH more intense.
I awakened and I encounter other universal life forms,blue beings and it was an immediate inner knowing,when one does become enlightened this happens automatically,without LSD Now is the door.
If one is ready LSD can change you forever spirit then becomes your predominant state,immediately you are in touch with the inner universe you are life,and beyond life also.
@134being But how could you prove this, how could you prove that it's something more than just messing with your brains? I've taken lsd a lot of times when I was younger so I've experienced all of that, but I never thought I could achieve any kind of other conscious state with drugs. I mean, it's not theoretically possible. Lately I've started with some serious meditation and I believe things like that can be achieved with self-control... But that has nothing to do with drugs... Or does it?
@nejchij Having taken LSD in my younger years hundreds of times and ayahuasca several times in my senior years, sun danced w/ the Lakota for 20 yrs, meditated, vision quested in a cave for four days and nights, trance danced, done dozens of breathworks, etc. etc, I think it is all about brain chemistry. I have gotten into just as deep of an altered state repleat with visions on the third day of Sun Dance in 100+ degree heat with no food or water (and no peyote). Now they r plant teachers-drugs.
@nejchij Having taken LSD in my younger years hundreds of times and ayahuasca several times in my senior years, sun danced w/ the Lakota for 20 yrs, meditated, vision quested in a cave for four days, trance danced, done dozens of breathworks, etc. I think it is all about brain chemistry and intention. I have gotten into just as deep of an altered state repleat with visions on the third day of Sun Dance in 100+ degree heat with no food or water (and no peyote). I Address them as Plant Teachers
I awakened and I encounter other universal life forms,blue beings and it was an immediate inner knowing,when one does become enlightened this happens automatically,without LSD Now is the door.
I like your video I was a victim of the CIA's MKUltra experiments in montreal it was horrific the Doctor used LSD and LSD mixed with other drugs powerful electric shocks 80 times stronger that what was acceptable and weeksof sleep as a brainwash tape played im telling my story at youkilledyourmother
Before you call me a liar educate yourself on the subject besides my you tube videos you can look under MKUltra or our law suit against the CIA on the net Orlikow v United States
In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing program using LSD Massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep while a brainwashing tape played im telling my story on you tube called youkilledyourmother
Dr. Richards Strassman's book on DMT called THE SPIRIT MOLECULE offers a fascinating insight into the experience of taking DMT and the worlds/realities/dimensions/beings that people seem to encounter in non-ordinary states. Well worth a read.
My friend, PAPAGorgio, works in a lab making LSD and one day, after finishing a batch, he dumped nearly 5 gallons of it into my hair. My face instantly changed and became lizard like. I lashed about in anger, swinging wildy at my friend, who is an asshole cos he permantly ruining my brain. He knew that when he did that, he nearly killed me, and i've never stopped tripping. i'm tripping right now really hard and i'm surprised that i can computer. Fuck PAPAGorgio!!
one time i ate 117 shrooms in some kind of science ritual, it was really amazing, im telling you, it was so deep, and hearth touching, that is impossible to explain, back to the future, above physical plain...
Was the experience similar to what you hear of with DMT? Did you enter another world and encounter beings. I think I've heard that shrooms contain some amount of DMT.
yea, iam from czech republic too, and i have this kind of trip too, thats normal, when you are ready to absorb this knowlidge, and i am sad, that so few people try it, because everybody will be transformed and i think in a good way if only they can have good teache or guide. these trips should be teached on school, for everoby who wants...
I agree, believe it or not I took my first acid age 12 and my younger bro was 10. we took them regular on wednesday and saturday nights - we used to go into school still coming down on thursday mornings!! it was great and we had such fun.
Acid isnt more powerful these days, it's more fucked up. Most of the time it isnt even acid. Acid was at it's peak in the 60's, When Owsley Stanley was creating the best acid
Thumbs up if you got a contact high
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Thank you, thank you, and thank you! Finally real information is coming out after the Government's lies and control!
ariajoel 2 weeks ago
Thank you, thank you, and thank you! Finally real information is coming out after the Governments lies and control@
ariajoel 2 weeks ago
These experiments were conducted decades ago... You'd think that with our modern technology we would have made some astounding discoveries involving drugs. But the law prevents this... Crazy fools.
tikiman99099 1 month ago 4
Your never the same once you've dropped acid.......
goodvibesallround 1 month ago
Trippin' & Strobes!!!
LonePigsyAndCub 1 month ago
"the holotropic mind" is an amazing book and can be read for free online. I strongly encourage everyone to do so
bigsmurf4 3 months ago
He sounds abit like Arnold Schwarzenegger
WeLikeDanceMusic 4 months ago
2:04 scared the shit out of me... But thanks for the video ;P
TranceTechnoSucks 8 months ago 15
drugs can something else than a "bad thing"...
everything can be considered as a drugs. a tea? a coffee?
I tried many and i can tell u some of them are beneficial. now if loose control, it is bad.
try to loose control on chips, fat or hamburger and u will see what we will happen.
I have not time to explain what was good :)
LSD can be very good if u do it the right way.
RationalMysticum33 8 months ago
hey i have 2 hits of acid. of course theres no way of knowing how strong they are. assuming they are normal potency. how long do you guys think id trip for? or be unable to talk to parents? cause i need to plan my trip out. as of now, i have like 12 hours, prob a little more. can anyone give me an idea of weither or not that will be enough time for me to come down from my trip enough to converse with adults again?
dyllpickle94 11 months ago
@dyllpickle94 Usually LSD trips will last for around 8-12 hours in my experience. Personally I find that I can talk to authority figures whilst tripping but I have tripped many many times so I think it comes down to how comfortable you would be in that scenario and what your prior experiences are.
dominiccss 11 months ago
@dominiccss ok thanks man! have you ever tripped unaturally (over 12 hours) long on 2 hits? or is that pretty uncommon for 2 hits?
dyllpickle94 10 months ago
@dyllpickle94 Well I've only ever done LSD twice and both times I took a single dancing bear tab which are supposedly 130mcg. It didn't last more than 12 hours. However, I do use 2C-E regularly and have tripped many times on it, often my 2C-E trips last a very long time even over 16-18 hours. With LSD you should be fine though.
dominiccss 10 months ago
@dominiccss thanks man! it was amazing, and your right, i was deffinetly fine come 12 hours later!
dyllpickle94 10 months ago
@dyllpickle94 Good to hear. I just recently got a hold of 10 high quality dutch tabs, gonna be having a lot of fun in the near future ;)
dominiccss 10 months ago
@dominiccss hahah lucky bastard! have fun man!
dyllpickle94 10 months ago
@dominiccss , how dangerous and good has it been for u?
faridjabba 7 months ago
@faridjabba LSD is probably the most safest drug there is, and yes, an LSD trip is the most incredible, amazing, fantastic, beautiful, breathtaking, phenomenal experience a human can have. It is my favourite drug by FAR.
dominiccss 7 months ago 2
@dominiccss everytime i take lsd, my head starts to hurt, but i have more visuals then other people, i might never do it again cuz of the headache
anmax00 7 months ago
@dominiccss how many hits would you recommend to a first time user?
mdrndrum 5 months ago
@mdrndrum It depends on the strength of your tabs. I would recommend trying to do a little research on what you get because some tabs are stronger than others. For example, the first time I tried LSD I had a 'Dancing Bear' tab which are supposed to be 130mcg. This was a great dose, and very effective at just one tab. After that I only ever had 'Avatar' tabs which are quite a lot stronger: 180-200mcg. If you are getting standard street tabs in the US you should prob take 2 because they are weaker
dominiccss 5 months ago
@mdrndrum Zero !
valarmanwe 2 months ago
@dominiccss LSD is quite safe, though how do you know that you're actually taking LSD? You could be ingesting 25I-NBOMe. DOB. DOI. 5-MeO-AMT. I encourage everyone to get a testing kit before swallowing any paper. Otherwise, stick with mushrooms so you know what you're putting in your body.
Tengent 1 month ago
@Tengent Because the LSD I was taking was bought from an online seller in the netherlands. Many many people used him, and they all said it was acid. My trips all fit the description of an acid trip. The NBOMe chems can't be taken sublingually if I recall correctly, only buccally. The DOX chemicals have a strong bitter taste and longer come up time. With so many people sampling this acid coming from the same source, many of them long time acid trippers I am very confident it was the real thing.
dominiccss 1 month ago
@dominiccss Sorry, I was just trying to increase awareness.
Tengent 1 month ago
All of you who bash modern psychiatry are welcome to go down to your local homeless shelter and pluck out a mumbling, confused, disheveled, self medicating human being and take him home to try and help him.
Just make sure you don't give them anything to stop their hallucinations, and don't ask for any financial support - otherwise you become guilty of what you bash psychiatry for.
Or you could just remain judgmental and ignorant.
kendigjl 11 months ago
2:05 fuck that made me jump. i have headphones on
CORNP00 1 year ago 2
*straight off some...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
i'd take lsd when im old to, so if i die, it wont just be black, i'll be trippin for awhile, hopefully. haha
vaginasweat123 1 year ago
I love lsd
IndigenouzTech 1 year ago
i think spirit is a bullshit human idea, peoples ego trying to convince themself that "they" somehow escape death at the last minute while their bodies crumple away and they float off up into the air... We dont need spirit, we are a temporary arrangement, a sand castle on the beach. Where was your spirit in the infinite years preceeding your birth? you dont need it. Stop being scared this spirit stuff doesnt make any sense. The idea of completely dropping your identity and becoming all is better
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mokilasorki 1 year ago
See hes a fucking doctor this proves that it isnt bad enought to make u fuck up
TheMgmt420 1 year ago
@TheMgmt420 used incorrectly it can be devastating for a short time.
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lazyfreedom98 1 year ago
doesnt lsd release the same chemical in your brain that is released when you have a dream?
bigbadchevy66 1 year ago
@bigbadchevy66 Nah man, that's DMT.
TheGreatStonedOne 1 year ago
@bigbadchevy66 no that is DMT the most powerful physcadelic known to man not lsd, although; lsd is one hell of a physcadelic as well.
ballsinshit 1 year ago
@ballsinshit Its not proven that dmt is released while sleeping, it is only a theory
101011we 1 year ago
@101011we Our bodies produce this chemical, it's a fact, the levels increase during REM sleep and at death, pathological studies prove this.
movadoband 1 year ago
@ballsinshit I beg to differ.
The threshold dose of DMT is 1 milligram, meaning the minimum amount to make you feel it is at 1 miligram. And that is minimal effects.
The threshold dose of LSD is 10-20 micrograms. Imagine taking a milligram of LSD.
Check out thumbprint LSD trips lol, its like a 12 hour DMT trip. People think DMT is stronger because it is easier to reach that level than acid (youd need to eat a lot, and its expensive, and lasts too long for it to be enjoyable at that dose)
benpetrofsky 1 year ago
@bigbadchevy66 thats dmt
carlosz882 1 year ago
@carlosz882 That is actually just a theory. Its is theorized in the book the Spirit Molecule that Dmt is released in the womb, during REM sleep and moments before death. I do believe it is released when we dream, but not when we die. For instance, say your head got blown off by a tank. I guess your spirit doesn't make it to the next realm because the dmt didn't get out in time
101011we 1 year ago
I am happy I read his book on LSD psychotherapy a few times before experimenting with acid and mushrooms myself....
I NEVER used LSD 'just for fun' and I really think this man helped me prepare in a good way; mind you -- I had no internet in early 90'ies and I had to rely on library books material solely since acid was extremely hard to come by in Roterdam/ the Netherlands and not may peeps could tell you any usefull about it other than 'you will see leprecauns....'
marsiozo2 1 year ago 16
@marsiozo2 hahah ja precies, hier in nederland is het moeilijk om mensen te vinden die drugs niet zomaar voor de lol gebruiken ;)
TheMrsilence 9 months ago in playlist LSD
@TheMrsilence im still learning dutch so will respond in english ;) i think thats pretty much everywhere, people view drugs as a away out, out of consciousness or reality, when definitely psychedelics like LSD or Psylocin are a way IN. :)
johnyjohandchipmunks 9 months ago
So sad he put the whole LSD experience in this insane psychiatric paradigm...Schizophrenia research, right. With that kind of pathetic outlook, just imagine what kind of trip you get...It's obvious to see Grof hasn't stepped out of that paradigm at all.
I find his description of his own "trip" -if we can call it that- not even slightly convincing...
Big bang...pulsars...Please.
And where are results? Insights?
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious read his books - the video is very short, there is not enough time to explain everything in detail
rabarbaruso 1 year ago
@rabarbaruso
I don't need to read his books: the video and my comment on it speaks for itself. We have all these heroes of this and heroes of that in society that people look up to and Grof is one of them. Yet isn't it obvious he's still in the materialistico authoritarian paradigm of an atomistic, mechanistic universe that can be accurately investigated and described by science bla bla? He didn't even turn his back on psychiatry for Darwin's sake! What does THAT tell ya?
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious REALLY?! Did you actually, really even listen to the whole interview? You obviously didn't GET it.
You clearly have never read any of his literature?
I would highly recommend the exploration of the vast literature that Grof has authored.
Your comment makes you appear very ignorant & misinformed.
One of the defining characteristics of Dr. Grof has been how he has been in an almost continuous state of reinventing & modifying his paradigm- not just once or even several times.
DJJonPattrsn22 1 year ago
@DJJonPattrsn22
Get it? Get what? That Grof is a scared, controlled pussy who didn't dare to ACTUALLY EXPERIMENT WITH LSD in a SANE setting? It is just MINDBOGGLING to take LSD in a psychiatric, controlled setting. How deluded the man is! (as are you!).
Of course he needs to pretend and claim it "changed his life".
"Your comment makes you appear very ignorant & misinformed"
Oh really? Well, perhaps the problem here is that my discourse doesn't square with authoritative myth & dogma.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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You are obviously in denial of how toxic psychiatry is, this outrageous pseudo-science that has harmed millions and continues to do so. You are incredibly oblivious to how very wrong the setting is of the LSD-trip Grof describes, as well as his entire passive attitude, which of course has fully defined his "experience". The actual substance of his "trip" is just PATHETIC.
"One of the defining characteristics of Dr. Grof has been ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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...how he has been in an almost continuous state of reinventing & modifying his paradigm- not just once or even several times."
Sound like you got this straight of some official fansite.
Why don't you just LISTEN to the raw data of this interview and look at the man, try to hear what he says?
You clearly don't know what a trip is and have never experienced LSD.
A PASSIVE LSD trip, with brainwaves being monitored by electrodes by some psychiatric team, ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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...as stroboscopic lights are being flashed into his eyes?!!
There is so much wrong here I hardly know where to start.
Grof OBVIOUSLY doesn't get LSD, NOR the way it can reveal the human mind, and neither do you.
It is typical of people like you who can't think for themselves & can merely regurgitate that they always use the same terms: "uneducated", "ignorant" and soforth.
Anybody who knows what LSD is & looks at this footage with an open mind knows he FAILED.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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I mean can you actually HEAR what he's saying, or does that interfere too much with your made up mind and what you were taught?
"So we had a group of people, about 40 people, that included ourselves, who would come to a research institute always for a day, & on a double-blind basis they would get one of these psychedelics or placebo, & then go through a series of tests, you know, collecting samples of blood every hour on the hour,...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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... urine every hour on the hour, psychological tests, electro-physiological tests...A very very, kind of traditional scientific approach."
I mean it's just PATHETIC!!
Then they subjected psychotics & schizophrenics to same treatment, etc etc.
Can you see how the entire approach to mind expansion is being approached from the outset from a medicalizing, pathologising, normative, positivist perspective?
That there is no open-mindedness, heart, warmth, ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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...understanding here WHATSOEVER -which must per definition profoundly affect the experience?
That these "psychedelic experiences" are COMPLETELY RIGGED from the outset, and liable to generate pathetic, pathological states?
That there's a paranoid, normative, DIRECTING & ORCHESTRATING authority with a rigid set of concocted norms of normalcy & "mental health" "guiding" the experiment?
If you cannot see these things, DO NOT EVER, I repeat, DO NOT EVER take entheogens.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@rabarbaruso
A psychiatric setting for an LSD trip? I suggest friends, nature, peace and quiet.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious LSD can also help a lot of mentally sick people to improve their life and Stanislav based his research on this. What's wrong with that?
rabarbaruso 1 year ago
@rabarbaruso
Psychiatry, after about 130 years of "studying" schizophrenics (lobotomies and such) and other "mental conditions" has come up with...NOTHING.
Do you really think it has an interest in helping people?
Psychiatry itself is a disease, and it has inflicted INCREDIBLE suffering on countless innocents. It's "results" are mainly "chemical lobotomies".
The link psychiatry-LSD should really make anyone shudder...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious please let's stick to one topic at the time .. you cant mix everything together and demonize everyone who is involved in psychology - why do you think LSD (as a tool or medicine) in psychiatry (more precise, psychoanalytical psychotherapy) should make anyone shudder?
rabarbaruso 1 year ago
@rabarbaruso
The LSD trip itself opens dimensions and sensitivities that are fundamentally antinomical with science.
This doesn't HAVE so be so, theoretically, if the "scientific method" were truly objective. But if we look at the REALITY of science, especially a "science" like psychiatry, the tripper is actually faced with A MONSTROUS mindset, affecting the trip VERY NEGATIVELY.
LSD can reveal the essence of our minds, of life, or at least a lot more of it.
Science got NOWHERE with LSD.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter It's not exactly the same. Not at all... metaphorically they can be the same... Similar realization, yea.. but exactly the same, not even.
ge0metr1x 1 year ago
He obviously doesn't get LSD at all!!
The experiments he's talking about were connected to the CIA, containing many criminal aspects, and there are connections with torture programs such as MK ultra.
One of the ABSOLUTE WORST settings for a LSD experience is no doubt a scientific one such as he describes. It's a completely traumatizing and insane setting, and Grof doesn't realize that had he succeeded his trip, he would immediately have turned his back on psychiatry and start a new life. Sad..
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious He Obviously does get LSD, its the people around him didn't.
ge0metr1x 1 year ago
@ge0metr1x
Anybody who gets LSD would never take it in the kind of experiments and settings he's talking about. Why would you say he does get it? Perhaps because you bought the official LSD mythology no doubt, of these "rebel pioneers" with a true vision of the human mind, braving the forces of conformity and authoritative control... Leary, Grof, Huxley etc. You really think they're trippers? Then what "mindblowing" in sights did they bring back from their trips? I've heard none. pompidom.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious From his story, it seems he didn't know what he was getting into since it was his first time, but he got it. The fact that he was in that environment and under going these test during his peek hours and he didn't describe a bad trip... instead He described a very mind blowing insight, you must not have heard it so u must not have experienced what he is describing.. You can't compare grof to Leary, it's apples and oranges
ge0metr1x 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious this has got nothing to do with CIA .... read his books! the therapeutic use of LSD is very good and the setting in such sessions is beautiful
rabarbaruso 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter yes it is....
skatehard93125 1 year ago
nice man.
bille77 1 year ago
i got them hoffman trip and shiva trips 130 mic.....
harskop 1 year ago
Hey guys. No point being angry at the "lying government". They just tried to protect us. I don't think there was any malevolent intent. Learn to forgive and move on. Thanks.
paniq303 1 year ago
@paniq303 That' not why people hate the government. We should be able to put anything we want into our own bodys at a certain age limit! Our society has chose the worst drugs to make legal!! Drugs that narrow your mind and make you go to rehab. Did you know that there are more deaths from pharmaceutical drugs then there are illegal drugs. Get your head in the game! Reprogram your mind with psychedelics! LIVE AND LEARN.
youdevil6 1 year ago
@youdevil6 don't tell me, i know too well. and there's no need to be overly enthusiastic about it, even if you feel like it. we are not going to get this thing on the right track through emotional advertising; only by empathic reasoning and activism.
paniq303 1 year ago
fantastic, great to come across Stan Grof
ethankegley 1 year ago
I will never understand how LSD got categorized with "drugs." Other than S.O.P. propaganda.
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igogo1974 1 year ago
OMG! Close your eyes an listen to Saruman!
FancoiseT 1 year ago
WOW! An old guy survived the evils of drugs. Take that Status Quo! Fears planted in our brains were worse than the real thing. Reports of suicides, horrors--secrets & lies presented as fact. Army personnel fed LSD without their knowledge. Many good men were driven mad NOT by LSD but by deceit. They didn't know the effects were temporary. They could've been enjoying the HIGH! But no! They faced weird music & whispering voices instead. Scientists drove them mad to prove non-existent dangers.
metaspherz 1 year ago 29
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Excuse me? Have you ever taken LSD before? This is a drug which induces effects that we know very little about - The effects of which can be interpreted differently by different people. The experience on the drug is so fragile and so uncertain that anyone could have a bad trip. The severity of how 'bad' the trip is will depend on whether the person chooses to take their own life. People can become very awakened, but also very confused by LSD. Don't think there are no dangers.
jack40k 1 year ago
@metaspherz
the army wanted to use it as a weapon... of course they tried to scare people... ?
topperspoppers 10 months ago
@topperspoppers Yes they have weaponized hallucinegenics its even in the batman movie
tenthousandyearsgoon 6 months ago
@metaspherz Amen brother! It's called gaslighting and they, (the prohibition zealots) have been gaslighting the entire population. They say drugs lead to insanity but when you look at the institutions that enforce prohibition it is painfully clear who has gone insane and it's not the people taking the drugs. It's the people who dedicate their lives to destroying the lives of people who take drugs in order to full-fill their prophecy. anti-drug zealots == nazis and witch hunters
pfreddyp 10 months ago
My 1st trip was a tiny drop on the tongue when I was 20. There were 5 of us off-duty military guys in my apartment on a Friday afternoon with lots of munchees & a TV. I was the only 1st timer of the bunch. I had to be talked into it but I was curious anyway. It hit me quick & lasted about 36 hours. I had a date Sat night but it didn't go well since I had gone without sleep & I was still tripping. It was our 1st & last date btw. She knew something was weird about me--my dilated eyes. Memories...
metaspherz 1 year ago
@metaspherz Are you sure you didn't get a DOB tab instead of LSD, this can often happen and sounds a bit more like what you experienced.
@Atraldreams Chewing salvia works, as far as I know but I'm not sure of the time scale, I would assume it lasts longer but not too sure. Also, it's said to be a smoother trip for most people, most likely because of the slower onset.
SkyEatsKyle 1 year ago
@SkyEatsKyle The LSD came in a small glass vial. We dipped pins into it & put a drop, hence the term dropping acid, onto our tongues. The label said Sandoz. In the military one could always get the best drugs. Later on I took orange sunshine, a thin rolled paste in a small waxed paper envelope. I took it all not knowing it was a 5 way hit. That trip was weird but pleasant. Quality suffered once I started college. Various pills & blotter acid was all we could get.
metaspherz 1 year ago
@metaspherz You are a very lucky person! A person could only dream of getting that now without being closely connected to someone manufacturing it or mass selling it. It's an amazing substance though.
SkyEatsKyle 1 year ago
@SkyEatsKyle Yes, I was lucky. I didn't know it then. I'd the notion that I'd never be the same again. I'd 'seen things' that most persons wouldn't for fear of losing their sanity. I've always advocated the experience to the brave & curious. Plus, sharing it with others. The new perspective I gleaned in the early '70's, thanks to its recreational & spiritual benefits, allowed me to appreciate the good & to tolerate the bad that came later. It's wonderful to know that the dream lives on.
metaspherz 1 year ago
@metaspherz i had little square pieces of gelatine with lsd on them.. they were good..
trisky1234 1 year ago
Daily meditation and related practices such as pranayama aka "holotropic breathwork", blows away all psychedelics (hence Grof's current technique). We just have to practice consistently enough, with the right techniques, to alter our neurochemistry, so that access to all realms becomes permanent. That's why Ram Dass's guru didn't get high from a mega-dose of mega-acid (see the Ram Dass video "Part of LSD History Part 3 of 3). Peace.
LivingUnbound 2 years ago
i like what im reading here, how can i learn about meditation and holotropic breathwork!?!??!
12connection 2 years ago
@LivingUnbound... Ram Dass guru didnt get high from the mega dose cos he was already there permanently....and psychedelics ARE just as valid as pranyama/yoga practice and meditation ..many western zen monks became monks only after taking their first and only LSD trip....and grofs current technique would not have been developed if it werent for his dabbling with LSD
diesel691 1 year ago
lol...imagine being in that double-blind study. half the people scratching their heads, "i guess i feel a little different. i dunno.." and the others with a huge grin on their faces goin "ohhh yeaaahhh"
gotta love that 'looking over the edge of the rollercoaster' feeling,
zeramski 2 years ago
@zeramski
Being part of a laboratory study of psychedelics must have been stressful as well as anticipatory. Desiring the real effects while dealing with the sugar rush must have been a trip unto itself....
metaspherz 1 year ago
ROOFLL me and my friends were alll fryin and i put these blinking rave glasses on my friend, came back 20 minutes later, and he went totally insane hahaa. STAY AWAY FROM BLINKING LIGHTS THEY TAKE YOU TO ANOTHER WORLD HAHAHA
thewomanjesus 2 years ago
@thewomanjesus
wow pathetic, using psychedelics for recreational usage.
what a waste for those people who are seeking new knowledge of life.
XxdeathraverxX 1 year ago
Doing LSD makes one a big believer in molecules.
SpiritualAtheist 2 years ago 2
lsd is a growth produced by ergot in very close the absolutely zero degree. its an acid that "spits" on paperwalls. the fascinating thing it needs so many year of chemist education and is made illegal. most cost million million of millions of million dollar to build this kind of thing. real great drug, you can see what you are doing to yourself (others) . thanks
giFF123 2 years ago
Czechoslawtcki psychiatra
cantelini 2 years ago
Yeah, make sure its airtight though. Light, air and heat degrade acid.
blackanarchist101 2 years ago
lmfao why would you wanna wait that long
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Bonanzakalli 2 years ago
yes
lsd is chemically made
swEetlOve930528 2 years ago
it's also produced in our own bodies
TuRdSandwitch18 2 years ago 2
arnt talking about dmt?
gusterk 2 years ago
well it's wot i heard and they sed lsd
TuRdSandwitch18 2 years ago
DMT, it's produced when we sleep. Apparently when we're in deep REM sleep our mind produces a shit ton of it and we're going through a huge trip when we fall asleep.
Nobodie92 2 years ago
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what lsd or salvia faggot
tyfjmn 2 years ago
Read books such as "The Doors of Perception/Heaven and Hell", "The Electric Kool-aid Acid Test" and "Acid Dreams: LSD a complete social history".
Failing access to such content search a documentary here on you tube called "The Beyond Within". For if taken in a safe and familiar setting with a sound mind and liver it can open the doors to endless self-discovery.
TheDoktor100 2 years ago
The LSD experience is about entering a realm that was thought to be only accessible to the so called "spiritually enlightened" (through methods such as fasting and meditation i.e. Buddah) or the mentally insane. It has a great potential to help map the mind although this is not to say it isn't dangerous and my best advice for anyone considering their first LSD experience is to RESEARCH.
TheDoktor100 2 years ago 2
LSD? Only if you know how to store it correctly. Long term storage: wrap in foil, in several airtight baggies, place in a amber glass container with alcohol inside, store in freezer. Should be good for a long time.
blackanarchist101 2 years ago
yes, set and setting are essential, and it should not be a street drug experience. Albert Hofmann called these "sacral" drugs, substances to be used with reverence and caution
MindliftTV 2 years ago 15
@MindliftTV
Analogous to someone going base jumping on a whim without any training or preparation, just for kicks or on a dare with fair weather friends...
pgm98387 1 year ago
@MindliftTV how can somone prevent having a bad trip when using psycadelics?
NickSrp1 1 year ago
@NickSrp1 Choose a quiet place whew you feel safe and have a good friend sit with you, I don't see how it could go bad.
movadoband 1 year ago
So basically he's saying that drugs can alllow us to explore inner space??? How does that help us to understand outer space??? And could we be hurt in the process kind of like how an astronaught can be hurt if they don't have proper protection and training? Could it be that as psychonaughts, not having proper training or protection can be harmfull instead of insightful?
gukonni 2 years ago
"So basically? he's saying that drugs can alllow us to explore inner space???"
Basically, yes. And this is nothing new. Numerous indigenous cultures have used various psychedelic substances for millenia to explore consciousness and subjectivity e.g., salvia divinorum, marijuana, ayahuasca, peyote, mushrooms, etc.
mermadeinheaven 2 years ago 2
"How does that help us to understand outer space???"
Entheogens are not only for helping us to understand outer space; we already know a lot about outer space - they're mainly to help us understand inner space / consciousness.. i.e., that "space" about which we know very little.
mermadeinheaven 2 years ago 12
@mermadeinheaven thats so true!!! i fucked up my life with that lsd! when i took it i started to think about out space...and i get it now!! and its horrible...!! don't do it ever!!!
TheMarkec1994 1 year ago
@TheMarkec1994 Drop Acid Not Bombs!
youdevil6 1 year ago
"could we be hurt in the process...?"
Yes, which is why technologies can be used to determine subject suitability by eliminating those who show potential for adverse reactions, e.g., biofeedback can be used to test subjects and detect psycho-physiological anomalies (i.e., fear, anxiety, apprehension, etc) which would interfere with the use of certain substances.
mermadeinheaven 2 years ago 2
"Could it be that as psychonaughts, not having proper training or protection can be harmfull instead of insightful?"
Yes again. In the same way that driving a car can be dangerous for those who demonstrate signs of mental instability or physical disability etc; use of entheogens is not for everyone.
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Guard385 2 years ago
Funny that you mention salvia, apparently it must be getting extremely popular and it would make sense being that it's still mostly legal.
I just recently bought an ounce of Emerald Goddess sub-lingual salvia extract, I've used it only twice and I must say that it works quite well, it's much more pleasant than smoking, because smoking, pretty much every single time, no matter how conscious I am prior, I find myself having NO IDEA whatsoever as to how I ended up there, and that is frustrating
Guard385 2 years ago
yeah, btw i meant 20x not 200 and i know what you mean. soon i am getting a lot of acid and it is gonna be great. im also getting some rolls but eh
-ninja
immasuperninja 2 years ago
Everything that Stan is saying here and more is contained within his audio documentary "The Transpersonal Vision" which is definitely worth seeking out and using. It has the potential to inspire beneficial changes as well as make a powerful impact on to ones life if used properly, carefully, and diligently. Good luck to everyone on your journeys.
Guard385 2 years ago
Psilocybin is 4-phosophyrloxy-n-n-di-methyl-tryptamine, it has n-n-dmt in the name but honestly I don't know if I have ever heard anyone making statements about them being the same thing, so I can't comment.
As for learning about psychedelics on youtube comments:
It is a BAD idea, a definite bad idea. I plead with anyone who is interested in learning about psychedelics to do some real research and figure it out for yourself.
Guard385 2 years ago
Good advice on the youtube "research." Professional research on these subjects has (thankfully) proliferated in recent decades despite popular scorn, unfounded fears, and prejudices thereto. Shouldnt be hard to find for anyone willing to look.
Psilocybin is not "the same thing" as DMT...though the experience is in some ways very similar. DMT is much shorter (5 or 10 minutes) and MUCH more intense.
Gonzo707 2 years ago
If it's bad to learn about it in the comments, then why should I listen to what you say since you said it in a comment?
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I awakened and I encounter other universal life forms,blue beings and it was an immediate inner knowing,when one does become enlightened this happens automatically,without LSD Now is the door.
134being 2 years ago
If one is ready LSD can change you forever spirit then becomes your predominant state,immediately you are in touch with the inner universe you are life,and beyond life also.
134being 2 years ago 13
@134being But how could you prove this, how could you prove that it's something more than just messing with your brains? I've taken lsd a lot of times when I was younger so I've experienced all of that, but I never thought I could achieve any kind of other conscious state with drugs. I mean, it's not theoretically possible. Lately I've started with some serious meditation and I believe things like that can be achieved with self-control... But that has nothing to do with drugs... Or does it?
nejchij 1 year ago
@nejchij Having taken LSD in my younger years hundreds of times and ayahuasca several times in my senior years, sun danced w/ the Lakota for 20 yrs, meditated, vision quested in a cave for four days and nights, trance danced, done dozens of breathworks, etc. etc, I think it is all about brain chemistry. I have gotten into just as deep of an altered state repleat with visions on the third day of Sun Dance in 100+ degree heat with no food or water (and no peyote). Now they r plant teachers-drugs.
treeoflifefoundation 1 year ago
@nejchij Having taken LSD in my younger years hundreds of times and ayahuasca several times in my senior years, sun danced w/ the Lakota for 20 yrs, meditated, vision quested in a cave for four days, trance danced, done dozens of breathworks, etc. I think it is all about brain chemistry and intention. I have gotten into just as deep of an altered state repleat with visions on the third day of Sun Dance in 100+ degree heat with no food or water (and no peyote). I Address them as Plant Teachers
treeoflifefoundation 1 year ago
@134being Couldn't have said it better myself. Well said.
XBudBomberX 1 year ago
I awakened and I encounter other universal life forms,blue beings and it was an immediate inner knowing,when one does become enlightened this happens automatically,without LSD Now is the door.
134being 2 years ago
I like your video I was a victim of the CIA's MKUltra experiments in montreal it was horrific the Doctor used LSD and LSD mixed with other drugs powerful electric shocks 80 times stronger that what was acceptable and weeksof sleep as a brainwash tape played im telling my story at youkilledyourmother
photo986 2 years ago
liar
whichwaynq 2 years ago
Before you call me a liar educate yourself on the subject besides my you tube videos you can look under MKUltra or our law suit against the CIA on the net Orlikow v United States
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In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing program using LSD Massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep while a brainwashing tape played im telling my story on you tube called youkilledyourmother
photo986 2 years ago
Project MK ULTRA?
thefanster87 2 years ago
I took lsd last night 2nd time with weed and still feeling it a little.
mikederda 3 years ago
Dr. Richards Strassman's book on DMT called THE SPIRIT MOLECULE offers a fascinating insight into the experience of taking DMT and the worlds/realities/dimensions/beings that people seem to encounter in non-ordinary states. Well worth a read.
arcticfox1 3 years ago 5
Very good book.
Also, I'd highly recommend "INNER PATHS TO OUTER SPACE," by Rick Strassman, Luis Eduardo Luna, Slawek Wojtowicz, and Ede Frecska.
Extremely interesting...especially for anyone who enjoyed or was intrigued by "DMT: TSM."
Gonzo707 2 years ago
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My friend, PAPAGorgio, works in a lab making LSD and one day, after finishing a batch, he dumped nearly 5 gallons of it into my hair. My face instantly changed and became lizard like. I lashed about in anger, swinging wildy at my friend, who is an asshole cos he permantly ruining my brain. He knew that when he did that, he nearly killed me, and i've never stopped tripping. i'm tripping right now really hard and i'm surprised that i can computer. Fuck PAPAGorgio!!
coo1terkbenson 3 years ago
one time i ate 117 shrooms in some kind of science ritual, it was really amazing, im telling you, it was so deep, and hearth touching, that is impossible to explain, back to the future, above physical plain...
flakyflaky 3 years ago
holy shit thats a lot
lpawl89 3 years ago
Was the experience similar to what you hear of with DMT? Did you enter another world and encounter beings. I think I've heard that shrooms contain some amount of DMT.
angrychannel 3 years ago
DMT is it's own experience. Psychedelic mushrooms do not contain DMT, they contain the chemical Psilocybin.
hateaters 2 years ago
they do in actuality contain N,N-Dimethyltryptamine so yes the do somewhat but they are not full on DMT
immasuperninja 2 years ago
no shit.... well, i guess i learned something new today!
hateaters 2 years ago
isnt that a toxic overshock to the system, sounds like alot
revellanotvanella 2 years ago
yea, iam from czech republic too, and i have this kind of trip too, thats normal, when you are ready to absorb this knowlidge, and i am sad, that so few people try it, because everybody will be transformed and i think in a good way if only they can have good teache or guide. these trips should be teached on school, for everoby who wants...
flakyflaky 3 years ago
I agree, believe it or not I took my first acid age 12 and my younger bro was 10. we took them regular on wednesday and saturday nights - we used to go into school still coming down on thursday mornings!! it was great and we had such fun.
AuldThwaite 3 years ago
Acid isnt more powerful these days, it's more fucked up. Most of the time it isnt even acid. Acid was at it's peak in the 60's, When Owsley Stanley was creating the best acid
Cam6769 3 years ago 5
yea acid nowadays is nowhere in comparison to the good ol' days...
nekobox 3 years ago
i agree i have yet to get a dose.
Scherer321 3 years ago
grof is a visionary. one day humanity will remember him
Lenangreal 3 years ago 2
salvia is really crap and a big waste of time and money - hence it's legality!
AuldThwaite 3 years ago