Bill Gates on the Potential of New Nuclear Technology

[creedstat]

What a f'ing douchebag gates is.. Comparing the Fukushima disaster as minimal because it only happens once every 25 years ....he fails to mention that once a core melts down the toxic plumes disperse all over the earth and contaminates everything and everyone for thousands if not millions of year

[39randomguy39]

doing my chem hw on youtube ftw

[MewCat100]

There was an assload of cost cutting and rule-breaking in the building of that plant in Japan. The accident would never have been an issue if they had followed the rules. Damage from nuclear is always the result of HUMAN error and laziness. Humans suck, not nuclear power.

[JOSH3SiX]

@MewCat100 so you think its fine if you get blown up for cutting cost and rule breaking?

[MewCat100]

@JOSH3SiX What is your point Josh? Your post makes no sense. I was making the point that the reactor never would have had a meltdown if it had been built properly. Nuclear reactors are actually safer than many other energy production technologies when produced properly. What was your point?

Nuclear reactors cannot explode like atomic weapons. There will be no A-bomb nuclear reactor accident. Explosions that can occur in nuclear facilities are the same that can occur anywhere.

[JOSH3SiX]

@MewCat100 never mind i misread your comment, my bad

[vorjay]

@withholeyshoes a reactor that the designers said should never have been put in service because of the flaws is your example.

[TheGamingFroob]

If you look throught hisglasses you see the future.

[beetocks]

In the USA, all nuclear waste is currently stored on-site. This is because the states are not comfortable allowing it to be moved across their land to long-term storage in Nevada. It is a policy problem, not a physics problem. Storing the waste on-site is not a significant risk.. it only becomes a problem if there is a disaster, and in that case, the disaster itself is a far greater concern than the stored waste.

[fingerboy18]

@beetocks It's extremely difficult to transport the spent fuel as well. I visited a plant and they had a literal tank that moved it at about 2mph.

[7mitchello]

more nukes for newt 2012

[CitizenJoe216]

When you can write a software program that can simulate the actions of human greed, incompetance and political corruption, you might be able to create a simulation that can accurately simulate the issues with running a nuclear power facility. The human factor is the greatest unknown in any simulation you can care to create and it cannot be removed.

[ZombieLincoln666]

@CitizenJoe216

What you say is true, human factors are difficult to model.

However, reactor engineers recognize this, and so the latest generation of nuclear reactor designs rely on passive safety features (reactors can regulate themselves using basic physical properties - doppler resonance broadening, natural coolant circulation, etc).

So the best way to avoid human incompetence, is to reduce the reliance of power plants on humans.. and they are doing exactly that.

[exocat]

let´s ask to Gates if in case a NPP has problem, is enough to reboot the system...

[zioband]

who is without sin cast the first stone.

now you will see if in addition to many political promises, we'll see if interesting defend the rights of a simple working of the Sofitel, or if it will be business as usual insabbiato.ora we will see if these politicians as well as smart bombs and not being exported, will be able to bring some 'of morality in other free and democratic countries.

[jorgecalivalle]

Is Bill Gates supposed to know about nuclear power and nuclear technology just because he's well known in the computers industry ?

[vorjay]

@jorgecalivalle maybe because he partly owns a company called TerraPower which has nuclear engineers working for it and advising him.

"The TerraPower team includes[3] scientists and engineers from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Fast Flux Test Facility, Microsoft, and various universities as well as management with experience at Siemens A.G., Areva NP, the ITER project, and the U.S. Department of Energy."

[manfromregina]

I get his point.,No human workers at power plants once they are built.

Mechanized nuke plants that will be human error free..except for the program commands.

[huckfinn22]

I guess on paper, there would be no power outages that make man-free operation a problem. The bottom line which Gates and other pro-nuclear geniuses seem to miss is that, sure, every 10 or twenty years a nuclear accident kills a few folks, less than other fossil fuel energy sources, but those accidents also render large areas of land unhabitable for lifetimes. If Japan had two or three more accidents in the next 100 years, that's a BIG land problem.

[liquidminds]

@huckfinn22 and what the nuclear-enemies don't see is that power-corporations pull out 1mio$ of earnings every day for each nuclear plant. ALL accidents, were caused by human error, irresponsible saving at security, but never when the safetymechanisms were all working in optimum range.

If they wouldn't use nuclear power to speculate for personal gain, nuclear power would be the safest there is so far.

the only real problem is the waste, but solutions will be found there too.

[huckfinn22]

@liquidminds As someone else points out below, even in an industry with such potential hazards, corporate interests have always shown the tendency to err on the side of caution-be-damned. Whatever corners can be cut to up a profit, well, Fukishima is a great example. And as long as those profits can be siphoned to elect and re-elect enough support in government, industry oversight will be a myth. Thanks for the reply.

[shintsu01]

if this design is really going to work we can use it to clean up our nuclear whaste.

[MrJohn1966elliott]

NO way, No more new nuclear , Too dangerous, not safe. I wants to finish about nuclear, anymore finished That's it. Bill Gate go to hell !

[michalchik]

Also another significant factor is not just deaths but the fact that nuclear meltdowns destroy prime habitable land pretty much permanently. There are about 2800 square kilometers of prime European land that are now uninhabitable thanks to Chernobyl.

[emperorkang]

Bill Gates the science guy. :-P

[VonManavis]

To all you environmental pinheads,apart from nuclear fission, there's also nuclear FUSION.

[michalchik]

@VonManavis Not yet. At least not controlled nuclear fusion and there have been some pretty good articles in scientific American that advocate the idea that the route to nuclear fusion we are trying to pure is a dead end. There is no stable magnetic bottle at fusion temperatures and it will be impossible to sustain the fuel cycle by producing tritium from deuterium and neutrons captured from the core. Especially while maintaining the thermal cycle to generate energy.

[Crissix100]

@VonManavis which doesn't generate any energy =/

[michalchik]

@Cartman86 I am really suspicious of those estimates. I have heard death tolls from Chernobyl that ranged from dozens up to a half million, depending in whose counting. The low estimates of deaths from nuclear energy don't include any attempt to quantify the cost in life from mining contamination to waste disposal. How many will still be lost in the future as millenia have to pass before the waste becomes harmless. I am not saying I am sure he is wrong, but i am far from convinced.

[VonManavis]

@michalchik

Trial and error pal, sorry.

[michalchik]

Simulations are only as good as the assumptions we put into them and the degree to which we follow them. Can safe clean nuclear reactors be built. Probably. Will they be built by people with a profit motive. LOL. Why were they using reactors that have to be actively cooled AFTER shut down? Why did they protect the diesel generators with just a 10 foot wall? Why was the spent fuel pool on the second story so it containment could leak? Money. It is too dangerous a technology to trust to industry.

[NobbyKNobbs]

The problem with nuclear energy has always been the cost to actually get a nuclear power plant up. It's in the billions of dollars and the nuclear industry knows the only way to fund the billions needed is by making the citizens pay for it. Then there's the fact that no nuclear plant has ever been built on time and the cost delays run up additional billions.

[MaxBlight]

whether you like it or not, nuclear power is the best source that can powered everything, the only bad this is disposal. Its hard to find a good space to dump the waste.

[Soundtrack1000]

vision man

[glennd7962]

One question, Bill - what do we do with the waste from nuclear plants?

[Sardonac]

@glennd7962 Use it to power other kinds of plants. He spoke about these alternatives at a TED conference, I believe, and they could probably be found online.

[Visfen]

@Cartman86 Exactly. The reason so many people are against nuclear energy is because it's science-fiction scary. People dying in floods, falling of a roof laying solar panels or at a coal power plant is all according to plan.

[Aliksmyth]

@Visfen Nice one, Joker ;)

[Visfen]

@Aliksmyth Hehe, didn't even notice.

But it's so true isn't it. People don't give a shit if people are starving in africa, but if a plane goes down or there is a terrorist atatck then everyone panics.

[noisyimp]

@Visfen cos it's all part of the plan

[2012forlove]

yeah that's right ... there is no body in their right fxxxxing mind wants to use nuclear something that is not safe ... so is it the question of monies again is it ? bring out the clean free energy that we have ... free energy that people can generate themselves without paying to those power hungry, greedy ...that;'s right using foundations to cover up the sinister activities behind closed doors bills ? wonder how many lives times are you preparing to come back to existence with your stored $

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@2012forlove So what are these "free energies" supposed to be?

[SirFakeName]

@SeltsamerAttraktor Google it.

[TheCasanovvaa]

@SeltsamerAttraktor His name is 2012forlove, I can only assume he is some sort of hippie conspiracy theorist so basically hes talking out of his ass on lsd.

[2012forlove]

@SeltsamerAttraktor try video oR7_NH0cZe4

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@2012forlove Oh my gosh,... and you seriously believe that shit?

[lovebeyondnow]

@SeltsamerAttraktor . google it more dear... there are lots of safer alternatives, lots of people die because of their genius free or close to free technology ... google it if you have an open mindedness ... no free energy, governments and elite are in control, no energy we cannot do anything and have to pay taxes ... Earth is rich, abundant with everything we have .. so why we have to slave ourselves to live a mere existence while others just throw monies away ? is that a fair system ?

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@lovebeyondnow You know what the problem with this kind of thinking is? Once you've fallen for it, there is no way out. Everything is just a mere confirmation of your premise. And if something seems to contradict it, it can be easily explained away with phrases like "You are brainwashed/one of them/need an open mind" etc. Conspiracy theories damage your mind. And every crank idea needs its conspiracy. Why else wouldn't everybody else be using it? Why aren't real scientists researching it?

[lovebeyondnow]

@SeltsamerAttraktor ..... you asked my questions ... :D ask your governments, ask the scientists youselves ... really ? using some risky for commercial gains ? so somebody could cause trouble for the world again and take scapegoat ? .. open your minds, do your own research, i think you are on the same boat, i read, watch everything ... even i am still here on this video even i do not the subject ? but this solution has shown its damage ? you know Chernobyl incident ? the Turks still pay for it

[670Kiester]

seriously, screw you bill you pos

[BillyB0bD0le]

piece of shit

[Oblivionsurveyor]

what about nuclear waste you retard bill gates. The cost of storage and transportation of said waste is phenomenal. Burying it under a mountain certainly seems plausible but not at all cost effective, Its funny how you compare this to coal power, even though coal is bad... It doesn't make me lose sleep at night, like a cloud of plutonium and uranium floating over my city. Something that will effect generations... our children's children. "EARTH THE EXPERIMENT."

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor If the cost of waste storage is so high, why is nuclear power as a whole one of the most cost effective forms of power generation? Coal doesn't make you lose sleep at night? What about the thousands of people who die from coal mine and other accidents in the industry? What about all of the natural radiation that is emitted from a coal power plant?

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Its profitable because they have spent exactly 0$ dollars on the storage of nuclear waste. All spent fuel is stored on site because it is cost effective. All this despite the fact we are all taxed on nuclear power for the soul purpose of storing nuclear waste. 200 billion dollars has been collected roughly, and not one cent has been spent on storing nuclear waste. Spent Fuel rods are filling up on Nuclear sites and they have no clue what to do with it!!!

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor I know that at many plants, spent rods are kept on-site under water for at least one year because they still give off quite a heat.

They have no clue what to do with it??? The disposal of nuclear waste is pretty much agreed to be a minor issue. It is quite stable and as long as it is encased, and requires no maintenance or ongoing costs. All it needs is a place to put it. Are you saying that nobody is using deep burial disposal? Its not perfect, but the less of many evils.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 yes that's exactly what I am saying, In America anyway. All nuclear waste produced stays on site, They planned to put in in yaka Mountian, after spending millions on research and construction, not one ounce of nuclear waste has been stored there. They have a few Dry cask storage sites that are already full of nuclear waste and there are no plans in the future to construct more. The Nuclear Tax i mentioned is being spent on other projects then it was intended for..

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor If you are talking about America (I am not American and America makes up only one part of worldwide nuclear power), then you are spot on. But surely that is a policy problem and not a problem with the physics of nuclear power? Compared with the environmental damage caused by other forms of energy (coal, hydro), spent nuclear fuel is insignificant.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Its not just a American problem, The Japanese have the same problem, Fukushima Contained 30 years of spent fuel rods. Not one rod was taken off site.  These fuel rods happened to be stored directly above the reactors themselves. Guess where the explosions were? 30 years of nuclear waste including plutonium, blown 2000 feet into the atmosphere.

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor This is factually incorrect. "Hot" spend fuel rods were temporarily stored near the reactors for a little over a year before being moved to a central storage area that was not damaged at all.

Do you have any references that show that 30 years worth was in the temporary pools? Do you have any evidence that the hydrogen explosions even breached the storage pools (including reactor 4)? The main problem with the pools was no water circulation from damaged pumps.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Everything i have stated is Factual. What they did not store in the pool's the rest was still stored On Site. Reactor No. 1: 50 tons of nuclear fuel

• Reactor No. 2: 81 tons

• Reactor No. 3: 88 tons

• Reactor No. 4: 135 tons

• Reactor No. 5: 142 tons

• Reactor No. 6: 151 tons

• Also, a separate ground-level fuel pool contains 1,097 tons of fuel; and some 70 tons of nuclear materials are kept on the grounds in dry storage.

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor This is getting way off topic but let me restate the problems I have with your statement.

I was not talking about the mas off the rods, just the time they were stored there. All sources point to rods being in temporary pools for around 18 months. I can't find any sources that say that the hydrogen explosions caused the pools to be compromised, yet alone "30 years of nuclear waste including plutonium, blown 2000 feet into the atmosphere.". Please enlighten me.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 As for evidence Japenese video shows the fuel racks Completely destroyed.I'll link you to two videos showing the fuel racks and how the initial explosions destroyed the racks in unit 3 and a 2nd video on what caused the explosions and fire in units 1, 2, 3 and 4. watch?v=l0T1-WHbUds and video 2 watch?v=uC0t4BBNOTg

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor I'm sorry but you are deluding yourself. The videos are from an anti nuclear campaigner who specializes in litigation again nuclear power companies. Video1: He looks at explosion footage and speculates. Video2: Does some experiment in his back yard. They now have DIRECT FOOTAGE of inside the pools that show although there was some damage and melting, the rods are basically intact! So much for his theory!

Can you please address my initial issue about 30 years worth of rods?

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 I apologize the first link i showed you didn't show you the damage to the racks... So many videos out there. That might explain why you still don't believe me ahaha. Here is the video i meant to show you. watch?v=rmgGdi4kx3A

Also your so called experiment in his backyard, was merely showing you how the zirconium metal incasing the spent fuel rods reacts to extreme heat. Burn's hot enough to create a Hydrogen explosion.

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor The only reason I engaged you is that I found two things you said that sounded ridiculous. 1. You said that 30 years worth of rods were stored above the reactor.

2. You said that they were blown 2000 feet into the air.

I have no wish to debate you about anything. I just want to know if these are really true. I don't have time if you can't show me how you came to these conclusions and continue to go off on tangents.

His videos still show the rods damaged and melted but intact.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Ok since there are only two fuel pools in question ill break it down. 88 tons blew into the atmosphere in reactor 3. 135 tons was on fire in unit 4. so the ammount released in reactor 4 is a unknown.

Facts- roughly 88 tons airborne, 360 tons of plutonium and uranium are molten globs on the concrete floor of the reactor buildings.

Considering it only takes a bucket of plutonium to destroy all life on the planet, these figure are pretty scary.

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor Yes it is very scary. But no matter how much you go on about the dangers, it still doesn't answer my question about the two issues I have with your initial statement!

This is getting tiring... Show me where you got the amazing knowledge that

1. 30 years worth of rods were stored above the reactor.

2. They were blown 2000 feet into the air.

This is a huge statement to make.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 You dont give up do you.... ok I'll admit I'm only 50% correct. Meaning 1107 out of 2274 tons are stored in the reactor buildings including the reactors. That means 50% of 30 years of spent fuel AKA 15 years.... of nuclear waste. The other 50% is still stored on site in another reactor pool. None of it is taken off site. Anyway you look at it, its not good....So that's potentially 2204 tons that could go up in flames!!! 2204 tons are in fuel pools, 70 tons dry cask You happy now?? lol

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Germany stores them in costly casks, for example, while China sends them to a desert storage compound in the western province of Gansu. But Japan, like the United States, has kept ever-larger numbers of spent fuel rods in temporary storage pools at the power plants, where they can be guarded with the same security provided for the plants. Figures provided by Tepco show that most of the dangerous uranium at the plant is actually in the spent fuel rods, not the reactor cores themselves

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Plus the roughly 100 tons contained inside the reactors themselves. You do the math, I,ve done the research. Sound like you should do the same and stop asking others to do it for you.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 This is where the reactor spent pool numbers were obtained----

The spent fuel pools are of significant concern, Marvin Resnikoff, a radioactive waste management consultant, said in a Wednesday press briefing organized by the nonprofit organization Physicians for Social Responsibility. Resnikoff noted that the pools at each reactor are thought to have contained the following amounts of spent fuel, according to The Mainichi Daily News: --see previous post---

[blabby102]

@Oblivionsurveyor Yet again, I am not saying that these number are off. You only talk about the mass but are yet to explain how you get your extraordinary figure of "30 years worth". You say that by looking at a video of the explosion, you can see racks? You must have pretty good vision. However, I prefer to look at REAL footage of inside the storage pools that show the rods intact, albeit damaged.

Or I suppose you think this footage is a conspiracy theory made by the government to control us?

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@blabby102 Excuse me, pieces of fuel rods were found 2 miles away. not 1 mile. So that will give you an idea of how powerful the blast that occurred inside of the fuel pool of reactor unit 3.

[ItsAComment]

@Oblivionsurveyor

Bill Gates has invested in a company that can utilise current nuclear waste to generate power.

[migkillertwo]

@Oblivionsurveyor

I dont like the TWR all that much, but the TWR is a "fast reactor". It produces less than 5% the waste that a conventional reactor produces per gigawatt hour. The waste produced by conventional reactors can be burned in a fast reactor. The TWR produces very little waste. Most of the long lived waste are actinides, but these are useable fuel in a fast reactor.

[Oblivionsurveyor]

@migkillertwo Fast breeder Reactor? You do realize Fast breeder Reactors Produce Large Amounts of Plutonium? I believe we almost lost Seattle because of a Fast breeder reactor. They are believed to be the most dangerous kind of reactor in existence, The only reason we Even operate them is to create Weapons grade plutonium for weapons and other military purposes. The Japanese Monshu Nuclear plant has been operating for 20+ years and has only produced 1 hour of power for nearby city's.

[zassounotsukushi]

I was impressed with his handling of the facts here. Bill Gates really gets it and let me tell you why.

He doesn't wave off of the impact or deny negligence like many in the nuclear industry seem to do. He also talks about WHY this happened and why at THIS plant. He also gets to the core issues of nuclear safety. Nuclear has the blessing that its impact comes in large bursts that can be identified and dealt with, but dealing with major harry real-world events is the crux of the issue.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Give Gates a shovel and send him straight into the japanese radioactive disaster zone to repair and clean up. And make a law that mandates seal teams to capture other nuclear industry shills, CEOs and corrupt politicians that rave about nuclear and parachute drop them in the next disaster zone with rubber gloves and toothbrush and shoot them if they exit the radioactive site before its all clean. :D

[miskee11]

Bill Gates is a cyborg created by the Japanese government to acquire power and money to boost his status in positions of great importance. When you follow the money you know who is behind everything, and obviously all the money went from Microsoft went to Japanese businessmen. The Fukushima incident was planned and the money from Microsoft was used for it (and the cover-ups)

[miskee11]

@miskee11 The Japanese government is planning to depopulate certain areas in Japan so that rich American moguls can exploit the resources in these areas. The Americans who are "cleaning" or "helping" in the affected areas are, in fact, setting up oil drills and mines there. By the time the problems are solved the Americans have left the place with everything valuable as if nothing but good was being done by the people in the area.

[beetocks]

@miskee11 Pure genius!

[Ramsez]

lol

[Lextjaefvel]

Mr Gates! Ever heard of the israeli STUXNET VIRUS???

[Truthiness231]

@Lextjaefvel *sighs* First, Bill doesn't even work there anymore (any contact he has with his former company would be business related; he's a bit too rich to be a software engineer XD). Second, Stuxnet was a highly sophisticated attack pulled off by a country or other large body, something one man (richest or not) can't do a whole lot about.

[Ramsez]

wtf was this shit why not a word about fusion? that's new

[Truthiness231]

@Ramsez Because fusion is beyond our current tech? For the same reason we don't talk about matter transporters and time machines in an economic way just yet? I'm saying it's because we don't need to talk about it for decades if not centuries; it really is that far away =/

[aido92]

Nuclear is not CO2 free! It takes a lot of CO2 to mine, process and transport the uranium. There is a heavy CO2 load embodied in the construction of the stations and storage facitities too. Uranium, in economically viable ore sources, is a finite resource. Were all the world to adopt nuclear fission as the primary energy source, then we would quickly exhaust the viable ore. This is yesterdays technology. Either develop nuclear fusion, or get serious about renewables.

[scorpio21x]

way to go Fora! when times get tough, bring out the major propaganda.

[wateryskipper]

is this gates guy have his marbles integrated?

[antiochus66]

bill...

reactor 1 is now finally a full meltdown...probably leading to another 3 meltdowns,one being a mox reactor.

maybe we should see if we survive this shit before scumbag billion dollar hoodlums talk about building new ones.

[Truthiness231]

@antiochus66 Yeah, oil and coal never killed anyone... oh wait

And we can already switch over to pure renewable energy to run the entire planet... oh yeah that's not true either...

Honestly, the only good way to run this planet is to make use of a variety of sources, both renewable and nonrenewable, until fusion is possible, which is what the planet currently does.

[vivaloriflamme]

Any ideas for what to do with all the radioactive pollution circling the globe right now, Bill? It's falling on your children, too.

[TNM001]

Its very simple: can nuclear power fail? Yes, as we know everything CAN fail. What is the price of failure? Are we willing to pay for it? Cleaning an area of 30km² would cost hunderets of billions, and it will cost lives aswell. Raise your hand if you are willing to do that, then we can go on this path.

Nah, better put your money in fusion, no fallout possible there.

[LibertyDownUnder]

I wish nuclear plants would just completley be stopped.

With all the volatility in the world, we don't need more of this stuff getting into the wrong hands. Be it terrorists, sloppy engineers, politicians, or even natural dissasters.

Burning coal DOES kill more people, but at least it can be containted more easily and can the collateral damage is tiny in comparison.

[cockandballs83]

Mr Gates...you can't even be accountable for the "VISTA" DISASTER you created or the internet explorer 9 garbage program?...why would we ever trust you on NUCLEAR power???

[noodlesmealey]

Bill! did you mean the propane factory in toronto?? - they built one in vancouver ,right? (they should combine all the sulfur mountain storage facilities run a strip from the parliament to E-Hastinks)

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

"Software simulation changes the game" Bill Gates

Yeah, and >90% of the 500 fastest supercomputers in the world run Linux. Ohhh the irony.

[99minerkc]

@SeltsamerAttraktor And Bill Gates is the richest man in the USA(50+ BILLION dollars). Ohhh the irony.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@99minerkc And now some fun fact: he won't get any money from me - I use Linux! Ohhh the irony ;)

[99minerkc]

@SeltsamerAttraktor Oh please don't do that. Without all of your money Bill might go broke, ROFL

[1RadicalOne]

That is because Windows is designed for convenience, not maximal speed. Of course using resources to run the windows system will slow your machine. Linux may have the potential to be faster, but it is much more difficult to use, especially when doing things designed for windows. Most users are not adept enough to work with shells and platform emulation environments.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@1RadicalOne There is a HPC version of Windows, so pretty much tuned to this usage, as good as Microsoft could do. The reason why they don't get any foothold into the HPC market is that it still doesn't perform and scale as good as Linux does, it isn't opensource and a too different mindset from a classical Unix system. I don't get why you talk about the PC market.

[1RadicalOne]

I explained at the outset of my last comment why that is the case. Any attempt to make a comprehensive GUI that is simultaneously fast is doomed to fail without extravagantly powerful hardware.

[Sardonac]

@SeltsamerAttraktor How is it ironic?

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@Sardonac The personification of Microsoft himself has recognized the world changing importance of simulation, yet this multi trillion cooperation is not able to get any foothold into that market, no matter how hard they try.

[Sardonac]

@SeltsamerAttraktor It's not the primary aim of Microsoft to make super-computer level operating systems. They do most of their R&D in home software. Linux, on the other hand, is designed for exteme compatibility and manipulability. It seems obvious to me that Linux would be used in super-computers.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@Sardonac It may not be their primary market, but they do develop HPC operating systems. en.wikipedia. org / wiki / Windows_HPC_Server_2008

[Meowbay]

@SeltsamerAttraktor But still, the only usable linux desktop system is a 100% rip-off from stuff first done in MicroSoft Windows. The funniest thing is how Mac users claim to be first with all sorts of GUI eyecandy, while I've been using LiteStep in Windows with widgets since 1998, ages before they even started using similar things in linux or Mac OSX. Try to be fair here. I agree that some company decisions at MS are silly, but they did make the PC A LOT MORE usable than the others ever could.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@Meowbay 1of2 There are 3 main branches of complete desktop environments on Linux (one of which is now branching into two more). Two of them look nothing like Windows, only one of them does. All can be configured to look the way you want, what ever that may be. Historically there has been many more approaches in Linux land, many of which diverged heavily from the Windows way. Of course quite a few imitate its basic look, but for a reason: it's ubiquity and thus its familiarity for many.

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@Meowbay 2of2 And if you look in the cooperate world, you will see that there too are many that have done it better and earlier than Microsoft. Amiga, OS/2, NEXTSTEP, BeOS etc. The first attempt of Microsoft to create a GUI was an utter failure. Windows was nothing more than a bad ripoff of already existing GUIs at the time: Xerox Alto, the first (1973!), Xerox Star (1981), Apple (1983), Atari (1985), Amiga (1985). MS has done nothing that others haven't, so no reason to be grateful.

[innocent1252]

@SeltsamerAttraktor I wonder what they'll be running when we're using quantum computers. Oh well, it's not like Bill Gates cares, it's not like he's poor and he's at a point where he chose to give most of it away anyway.

[vorjay]

@SeltsamerAttraktor ...and before Linux they were using a UNIX brew...what does that have to do with Microsoft?

[y0urbr3akfast]

@SeltsamerAttraktor Bill Gates himself uses Linux.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Gates is the man! The last thing you want if you want to gaug, profiteer and squeeze money out of people is for them to own their own solar panels and pay nothing for ambient light, what you want is a toll booth like nuclear or oil, billions of profits staight out of their pockets

Dont watch this

watch?v=HYsRl9Mh6yE

[migkillertwo]

TerraPower's design is the "traveling wave" reactor. Interesting, but really it's a terrible design that is much more dangerous than "conventional" PWR reactors, and sodium-cooled FBRs. Also it's large size requires the plant to be permanently entombed after decommissioning. Yeah that's a great plan, tell locals that they'll have cheap power, but it'll be a permanent yucca mountain.

Here's hoping that some rich benefactor like Bill Gates can get behind a serious design, like LiFTR

[TinYtheMartiaN]

So big oil or coal power plants have blown up in the past...and they might have in total killed more people than nuclear power plants, but nuclear disasters make the entire area inhabitable for years and years...and what reason is ''nuclear energy is safer than other major energy producing units" if there is the option of COMPLETELY safe and non waste producing power sources like the sun, geothermal energy, wind...waves.....just because its cheaper FOR NOW? ........

[99minerkc]

@TinYtheMartiaN you said, "but nuclear disasters make the entire area inhabitable for years and years" So, what's the problem then? If you were to have said "un"inhabitable that would be different, but you didn't say that.

[SwindleUK]

Why doesn't Bill just run for US President. or at least become some sort of advisor to the president. he is actually forward thinking, and wants the best for the future, wouldn't be corrupted by greed for oil companies money either.

[Babaldira]

What a lot of crap...

[UnforgivingCookie]

@Babaldira What about this is crap?

[danrayson]

if u wotch foratv u cleva.

[Royflame203]

Type MYPRIZE instead of YOU in youtube and hit enter

[raguila11]

Bill Gates' dad is on the board of Planned Parenthood (the Margaret Sanger eugenics-loving, pro-Nazi "non-profit").

[ProveItBro]

@raguila11 ...how is that relevant to nuclear power?

._.

[SwindleUK]

@raguila11 How does that effect his opionions on nuclear fuel again? and wouldn't his dad be in his nineties by now? so what is a past generation had views, uncompatible with our own.

[Phelan666]

He's also completely ignoring the radioactive waste created by these plants. In the US, these biproducts are usually just thrown in a hole and left to seep into the groundwater and contaminate the ecosystems of whole states at a time.

[drche420]

@Phelan666

You're ignoring how new nuclear plants can actually use the "old spent rods" as fuel. You're also ignoring how regulations prevent these "holes" from leaking contaminates into the ecosystem. You're also ignoring common fucking sense. Instead of swallowing the tree hugging bullshit whole, think for yourself and do your own research. That way you won't be another sheep.

[Phelan666]

@drche420 Oh look, someone from the internet is here to call me childish names, all the while claiming to be intellectually superior. How adorable.

I'm not going to begin to converse without until you learn to behave like an adult.

[drche420]

@Phelan666

1) You're offended by being called a sheep?

2) Never claimed to be an intellectual

3) Seeing that you didn't address any of my points, I'm going to assume you have no argument

[AgrivatedKillah]

@drche420 The guy obviously isn't a sheep.

Stop calling him a sheep.

[drche420]

@AgrivatedKillah

First of all, I never called him a sheep. I told him how to prevent from becomming a sheep. If he "obviously" wasn't a sheep, then I would not have mentioned it.

Also, why can't he address my points?

[SwindleUK]

@Phelan666 but they don't dump them in any old holes you know. they place them in storage in chalk underground i believe. it prevents them from causing any harm to anything, that includes the water table. smart hydroligists and geologists have figured all this out. Should a use be found for the spent fuel rods, they can be retrieved and put to use.

[Phelan666]

Bill gates is mostly full of shit and has done more to hinder human progress than anything else by buying the patents of any technology that could compete with his and shelving the product. This includes quantum computers.

[DeusMalleus]

Hey Bill! Wanna help stimulate the US Economy and Restore American Industry?

BUY ME A MACHINE SHOP

[55539brian]

bill gates is a new world order scum bag