Mitt "Corporations Are People" Romney should listen to this song. Although, I seriously doubt he would care about its message. Working people of America stand up and stand strong!
Pete Seeger will be sung in Time Square.,St Pauls Cathedral, all over the Earth. But Which Side Are you on. I know where I am. I am one of the 99per cent
As the cops are shooting into the occupy crowds, sending a Marine into the hospital, it becomes obvious that once again the jack boot thugs are defending their corporate masters instead of the people. The top 1% has always used the police to protect their private property and to break unions, etc. I am the 99% and so are the cops but they don't seem to all get it.
@belindaesq Carnegie used National Guard Troops to shoot steel workers in Pittsburg area and in Matewan, WV company thugs shot and killed many miners. Hence development of the term redneck due to scarfs to identify themselves. We need creative freedom to produce great new products but we also need basic freedom for workers and reduction in control by the 1%. I think both parties are obligated to them to a major extent.
Ironic that people are arguing for a flat tax, which will give a huge tax cut to the rich and a huge tax increase to working people, in the comments section of this song. Talk about not getting it.
@tixmastr Unfortunately, the truth that the income tax is increasingly decimating the working middle class hurts not only you but virtually all Americans.
@AllBobsAllTheTime I think passion and protest are part of the human spirit, and when something's wrong, you call people out on it. Like my new hero, Shamar Thomas.
Big corporations have had tax breaks for years and excessive tax breaks since George Bush in 2001, for over 10 years. If giving breaks to the rich creates jobs, then where are these jobs? Remove all tax breaks for the rich. Tax the shit out of them and reward them a little for each job that they create or bring back from outsourcing! That's the side that I'm on. Unions forever! Yes, all human organizations have flaws. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater!
I have always had mixed feelings about unions. The purpose for their existence is a benevolent one. However, both of my Northern great-grandfathers worked under them. On my father's side, they beat him nearly to death for not agreeing with union leadership. On my mother's side, they collected his due money and did nothing to help his widowed family when he died of black lung. I'm an anarchist, truly, but is it so wrong that I'm wary of unions just as much as I am of governments?
@DissidentDescendant No human organization is immune from exploitation and a leadership of scoundrels. Unions, for doing a lot of good, aren't immune to that, either. Besides your personal anecdotes, we have to remember that Teamsters supported Reagan during the 90s to provide such examples.
@DissidentDescendant No human organization is immune from exploitation and a leadership of scoundrels. Unions, for doing a lot of good, aren't immune to that, either. Besides your personal anecdotes, we have to remember that Teamsters supported Reagan during the 90s to provide such examples.
@DissidentDescendant To make a correction, I meant "80s," not "90s," in my previous reply. I also wanted to add that I am pro-union, but our "pro" stance should never deter us from criticism or from striving to better ourselves. So, no, your position being "war" isn't wrong at all. We should always be wary and to always question.
People look at teachers and firemen and say "Why dont they have shitty pentions like me?" When they should be be saying "Why dont i have a good pention like them?"
I'm on the side of peaceful cooperation. A union may or may not be bad for a company, but violence should be dealt with as criminal activity and separate from union negotiations. Unfortunately legislation often enshrines violence on one side or the other. You have a right to negotiate for better benefits or quit. You have no right to prevent others from peacefully arriving at mutually beneficial work arrangements. Likewise no corp has any right to use threat of violence as intimidation.
@MegaAstrodude This is the exact opposite of what Unions do.....Please educate yourself on how Unions really work before you spread misinformation. That attitude is why unemployment is over 9% for more than 2 years with 0 job growth and big corporations are raking in trillions of $ while the middle class becomes extinct.
@towner406 Yes, I am sure that extremely low tax rates for the richest Americans and the disappearance of the manufacturing industry in American has NOTHING to do with the extinction of the middle class...
Strawman. He never said those things (which, I need to add, are things unions are strongly (and I thought obviously) AGAINST) had nothing to do with the dying middle-class. Perhaps you need to take his advice and educate yourself. :)
Why? Because I don't think it should be illegal to work for 15 dollars an hour because you can't find a job that pays 20 dollars an hour? The workers have rights and the unions were blocking those rights by making the workers starve. If a union wants to strike because its members want higher wages, then strike by all means, but don't physically attack workers needing jobs.
Besides, Seeger has never apologized for his support of Joseph Stalin, who killed millions.
@MegaAstrodude please do your research before making such sweeping statements! Seeger said he left the Communist Party around 1950 and apologized years ago for not recognizing that Josef Stalin was a "very cruel misleader." But he told The Associated Press on Friday that the song he finally finished this year ("The Big Joe Blues") is a first for him, despite three visits to the Soviet Union beginning in the '60s.
I love Pete Seeger. An example of a man who could find common ground with everyone. He has done amazing things in his life - and in the face of all the nay-sayers (No, you can't stop the war, No you can't clean the Hudson etc etc etc).
Les luttes au Quebec au debut des annees 70 ' etaient d 'une ferocite remarquables . Prise de controle par les travailleurs de leurs lieux de travail, solidarite des travailleurs du secteur prive envers les grevistes du public. but even if the government at the time acted like in Wisconson today... it was worth it. solidarite mes freres.
Market economy has become an 'holy cow' which cannot be even discussed, but the market should be at the service of human beings and not the contrary as it is happening now....
To all you pro capitalist bloggers. if you did not already know...Capitalism is on welfare right now. We have bailed it out a few times now. Rosevelts new deal, this last deal. Had it not been for "government interference" it may have failed all together! We will have to bail out again too. Please quit acting like capitalism is the best system ever! This is the USA if we wanted to be socialist who says we cant do it better then China and all these stupid other nations?
@jerkappy capitalism cannot be on welfare - then it would cease to be capitalism you fucking dipshit. Its a totally different thing when you change it around like that. It no longer meets the definition of capitalism
@jerkappy I'm not going to point out all the stuff the other guy said. part of the problem is you 2 are polar opposites. you both have slight inaccuracies. but one thing you said really irks me. CHINA ISN'T ACTUALLY SOCIALIST- it's a dictatorship or oligarchy. As was the USSR. As is North Korea. So yeah, we actually can't do the modern form of socialism under current USA government as democracy can only work intrinsically with a primarily capitalist society; (cont.)
That is crap and cheap propaganda. Compare Russia in 1900 with Russia in 1950. I do not approve the methods and ideology of Stalin in any way, but it is silly to claim, that they did not build up an enormous industry.
You only know the western system and claim it is the only working one, but look for instance at German fascism and its economic policies. They were evil racists, but their economic system was at least as successful as western individualism, capitalism, democracy.
@ChineseAtheist You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Starting from 1890s and all they way thru Stolypin's reforms Industry and Economy of Imperial Russia was growing FASTER than anytime under Communist Rule. By 1913 Russia SURPASSED USA in oil production, railroad construction and became #1 exporter of food products in the world.
Wow, you are so clueless. Of course there was a lot of oil and need for railroads, but Russia basically was a poor, primitive peasant state, which depended heavily on crop exports to buy even simple machines and was ruled by an aristocracy, that did not care about the future. There was no industrial base. In 1940 Russia was the second biggest economy only second to the USA and managed to build tanks, planes, rockets. Due to the Cold war, western people did not really study the Russian success
Being born in Russia and having betrayed your country does not make you an expert in any way. Let me repeat the "discussion" I said that there are still Kolkhoz/socialist cooperatives in China. You said, that there cooperatives in capitalist countries too. Well, are there kolkhozy in the USA? No, there aren't.
So please, stop being so silly and get some basic education.
@ChineseAtheist In USA you are perfectly free to run YOUR business any way you want. Even to have Kolkhoz/socialist cooperatives if you so desire. But if you can not survive economically, it is YOUR PROBLEM!
Not US government or anybody else.
And what exactly that makes YOU and expert on ANYTHING?
You are just a silly Russian fool. A Kolkhoz is not run by the owners, but the workers. Are there important cooperatives in the US? I don't know any. Mondragon seems to be the most important western cooperative, but it is very capitalist. Don't get on my nerves. I only said that there are some socialist cooperatives in China and you bitch around because you want to have a communism vs. capitalism debate.
I have studied European history and economics and I certainly earn more money than you do.
@ChineseAtheist Brainless Idiot! Co-op means workers ARE the owners. Have you ever seen real live Kolkhoz? I've been to many. Nothing was going there according to your theoretical studies.
Just look for "workplace democracy" or "Workers' self-management" on wikipedia.
Btw. even if you little head does not manage to understand such informations: I am a capitalist and support capitalist reforms and have even worked at a (real) socialist cooperative that was changed into a modern capitalist company.
You are so stupid. You cannot differ between western, capitalist co-ops and socialist cooperations? Then don't waste my time. You are a very stupid person and should read more.
Why do I need to "look up" anything in wiki? I've seen "Workers' self-management" in REAL LIFE, not in your theoretical fantasies. Every freshman student in USSR was sent to some agricultural establishment (Kolkhoz or Sovkhoz) to help with the harvest in the fall time. It was mandatory. And from your senseless blabbing i can see that you don't have a slightest clue how they work in real life. Neither you have a clue about history of Russia.
@ChineseAtheist Is that because of great "Russian success" USSR had to lock up all it's borders to prevent millions of people from fleeing the country? Or even shoot people trying to escape?
@ssmusic214 Technically no one ever was socialist because, while it might look good to some on paper, it fails in its true form. (Also a government can't exist if a society is truly socialist)
We still have some "communist companies", which are organised by the workers/farmers themselves. They lack innovation and within the context of capitalist competition such communist structures lose market shares.
The current system of China may not be socialist, but the goal is to build up the means of production, so that maybe socialism can be achieved in a few centuries.
However, many western people think that capitalism + western democracy are the only possible system. That is nonsense
@ChineseAtheist Nonsense! Industrial, agricultural and other cooperatives always existed in many capitalist countries for centuries. They have NOTHING to do with Communism. Free enterprise system means: you run your business any way you want.
A socialist cooperative is the opposite of a free enterprise system and means that the workers rule and not the owners. In capitalist countries, they do not exist, apart from strange exceptions like some kibbuzim or Mondragon cooperation.
@ChineseAtheist Nonsense! All those exist under free enterprise system. Where every entrepreneur is free to run his business the way he sees fit. Wich Would be absolutely impossible in any communist ruled country.
@jerkappy otherwise you'd get an unfair taxation of those who work in traditionally higher paying industries like medicine and technology. This would lead to unfair representation as those of lower income would use their majority to continually raise taxes on the richer as it has no negative impact on them. Therefore that type of system would be unconstitutional as it would infringe on the implied right to prosperity which was also unofficially guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence
do not tax those whose that are fat and rich because they are job creators. Besides , what do you minimum wage workers know anyway. Except the total unfair nes of wealth distribution not only in the US but about in most of the capitalist country s
@holyrthanu capitalism makes TV's, cars, cheap heating fuels, food, ACs, the internet and cell phones accessible for the poor. The poor in the US are better off than the middle class in many countries w/o capitalism.
Pete Seeger is great and I love a lot of what he has to say. I am not anti-union, as people should be free to organize if they wish. However, when they use the law, as they do today, to violate people's rights, I must protest them. They FORCE people to join as a condition of employment. They destroy property or lock down plants (not theirs to take or break). They have used violence extensively in their history making them no better than the robber barons. Unions killed manufacturing in the US.
@Fuerzatriplea "placing jobs on the worst possible place " Yeah, learn English, you retard. Capitalism is what created those jobs in the first place. Before that, there was serfdom or slavery. Learn, son, learn.
@12345678tube Like wise Muppet. Capitalism took skill out of honest labor turned it in to chap mass labor and crewed the worker. big gap between the serfdom and the beginning of capitalism !
@dobw2401 took skill out and made cheap mass labor? Well it also made cheap mass production. The consumer became richer because he could buy more for his family. No cars, no computers, no airplanes, no MRI machines would have come out of communism - these were products of capitalist systems.
@12345678tube Please, first, definitions; what do you call capitalism and when does it begin? So that we can point and laugh when you show yourself to be inevitably wrong.
@wnsiculi Do I need to teach you? Educate yourself.
Communism has failed every time it has been tried - each and every time in every place under every set of circumstances it has FAILED. But You are probably so smart that you've figured it out. Thank the lord, our savior is here.
The Great Milton Friedman one said that Capitalism is a necessary condition for freedom, but not a sufficient one. In other words, without capitalism, you do not have freedom.
@12345678tube Wonderful, wonderful freedom! Is that the freedom that capitalism has brought to the two-thirds of the world that live on a dollar a day? Why are the only capitalist countries that get to enjoy all that freedom the same ones that have all the big guns? Why isn't capitalism working in Hati or Kenya? Are they doing it wrong? Most of the world lives in abject poverty. Poverty that has been directly created by capitalism. Is this a great acheivment to you?
@platypusmessiah the world was poor serfs before capitalism. Most of the world is not capitalist - there is a central planning agency for economies. Please get your facts straight before giving your opinion.
@12345678tube because milton friedman said it? ahahah
communism has not been tried anywhere... Socialism has, read something before you talk about it like you know something...
Capitalism, also failed in its starts, so has all the systems... They fail in the beggining, experience is gained and then they succeed... Socialism has made its first great footsteps in CCCP and a lot of great experience is gathered as to how to not fail next time...
@johnfoxstacy Great footsteps? 60 000 000 dead is a great step? Youre a fucking idiot and a psychopath. Socialism was a form of communism, a path to the final workers paradise, as described by marx. Of course, he was full of shit. Hopefully there is no next time for the sick fucks like Mao and Stalin. Capitalism failed by making the US a super power as the Soviet union collapsed with breadlines, and piles of sick, cold and hungry people who died in the streets. Yeah, real failure.
@theshadowavatar If you think the US is truly capitalist you are ignorant of the world around you. You want MORE central planning? More bureaucracy? More government? Those are precisely the things that have brought America to it's knees.
"If one rejects laissez faire on account of man’s fallibility and
moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every
@12345678tube How many times have " free societies" failed? They have ALL FAILED! All societies will fail, does not mater what kind they are. You might want to look and see just how long China has been soverign. Milton Friedman huh? Not good enough man. Dude your precious capitalism is on government welfare bro! Welfare...a socalist program! LOL Twice we have bailed out capitalism because of greed. Rosevelts new deal(socailist program) and this new deal(welfare check)
@jerkappy That is not capitalism. That is corporatism, which is another form of big government. The economy crashed due to government intervention. The new deal fucked up things worse than ever. We didnt recover until 1946. The depression started in 1929. The new deal was useless (in fact, harmful). The depression of 1920 was way worse but the government stayed out and we recovered in 18 MONTHS! Goddamn you armchair historians and economists - you dont know shit.
Silly it says "Unknown Venue" when 6/18/11 obviously means The Rainbow Stage at the most recent edition of The Clearwater Great Hudson River Revival, which will again feature Pete (this time with daughter Tao) this year. It should feature Pete, since he started the Clearwater campaign to clean up the Hudson in the first place. (I will be there, as I have been since 2007, as one of the many performers. Not on the Rainbow Stage, however.)
Rich or Poor? Which side are you on? It's just that simple. Will you give your life to the rich or to the poor? Just ask yourself, have I lead a good life?
Most of the corporate elite and their political mostly republican minions ,are crooks stealing and destroying our labor and our resources . history is repeating itself only they're more informed and very well organized. this is a huge war on this country by a few hundred corporate terrorists. don't let them buy your soul.
@jjjackieeee youre wrong when you say its mostly republicans its all politicians the 2 party system is just a way of electing a different facist every 4-8 years what we need is more populists ready to fight
@seymour442 true, most people dont get it, unions need to be cleaned of corruption, a worker is treated and paid better in the union, im in the international laborers union
@jjjackieeee unions need to cleaned of corruption and the UMWA shouldnt support anti coal democrats, the democratic party in my state has been fucking my state for years
@Russianppshfun You have a pretty misguided view of what anarchism is. First, there are variations of anarchism. Second, those violent movements you are refering to are not representative of the 'society' anarchism aims to create. While many of those folks identify as anarchists, anarchist thought is not about black bloc tactics and violence, but solidarity. However, if you are abandoning any sense of revolutionary anti-capitalism, you are just part of the problem within the union movement.
@kathades I'm on the side of the middle class, which means we don't let the rich destroy the working class. Because if they do, then they start to oppress us. Its about keeping a balance and about keeping the 'middle way'. Its not the working class fighting against the middle, its the working class ensuring they aren't slaves making the rich richer. The rich have enough power without getting the middle class to fight their battles for them. Its the working class which need our help.
@chickinchainmail The working class and the middle class are about the same thing, in my opinion. There is a common 95% at the bottom. We should all stand together and demand more equity.
@kathades I think your being generous at putting the rich at 5%, but I agree, the rest of us are all being screwed. I think i understnd in a way, the rich are trying to turn us all into their cashcows without providing fair return. Unfirtunatkey we live in wolrd of the media now, and their propaganda is ttoo powerful. Its circuses without the bread.
@kathades That of working people, because there is no middle class anymore. Taking the lead from the likes of Ayn Rand and Grover Norquist, Ronald Reagan and his political ilk saw to that.
@odinfromcentr2 Agreed. It disappears a little each day. Before long we'll be back to the good ol' days of pre-FDR working conditions. Ayn Rand suggests the rich go on strike; I think I support that.
I was on the 26th March in London. 500,000 marching for public services. Previously NALGO, now UNISON. Which side are you on - the union side and supporting those in need.
i'm a kentuckian. we fought in harlan county for our rights to work in decent conditions as well as be paid a fair wage. they called it bloody harlan county for a reason. j h blaire brought in rilfes, pisotls, even a machine gun, no joke. the miners did the same. taking away union rights won't solve shit. it will make it worse. screw tea party rallies, i'd rather they call me a union thug than take away my right to unionize
DEFEAT WALKER - Retake Wisconsin!
CIRMCPIM 1 hour ago
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Mitt "Corporations Are People" Romney should listen to this song. Although, I seriously doubt he would care about its message. Working people of America stand up and stand strong!
TurnersTwoCents 1 day ago
the union. the only party that can force the goverment
JosephZist 4 days ago
What is this song about? Side as in Union or Confederate?
nebraskabaseball 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@nebraskabaseball Look up the trailer for the documentary "Harlan County USA" on Youtube. That pretty much explains it all.
JoeRailfan 6 days ago
@JoeRailfan That was a great video, I've never heard anything about that stuff.
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@JoeRailfan That was a great video, I've never heard anything about that stuff.
nebraskabaseball 4 days ago
@nebraskabaseball Not everything can be defined. Search your heart not google.
robcas631 6 days ago
@nebraskabaseball Side as in Workers (Union) or Employers (patronal).
TheCynicalDude 5 days ago
Our Union Forever!!!!
PennilessProfits 1 week ago
They say in Indiana
No neutrals will you see
You'll either be a union man
Or a thug for the G.O.P!
Which side are you on, boys?
Which side are you on?
JoeRailfan 1 week ago
Stand tall Indiana! Defeat RTW!
teresaannsalyer 2 weeks ago
RECALL WALKER
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Moments from the class struggle in Greece 2009-2011 and the role of the KKE (Communist Party of Greece).
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Moments from the class struggle in Greece 2009-2011 and the role of the KKE. Click the video with that title.
Solidarity with the struggle of the Greek people and the Greek Communists!
katithaginei 3 weeks ago
We're going to defeat union busting all over this great nation!
teresaannsalyer 3 weeks ago
We are going to defeat this, just wait and see!
teresaannsalyer 3 weeks ago
Vote down right to work in Indiana!
PackingPadre 3 weeks ago
RECALL WALKER
CIRMCPIM 1 month ago
FUCK YOUTUBE ADS good bye
Googlypap 1 month ago
I know this guy! Leonard we love you!
myteam2nv 1 month ago in playlist Union Songs
Thank you legend...great song
TheDavor77 1 month ago
My granny was a teacher and I'm a Wisconsin fireman's son.
I'll be with you fellow workers, until this battle's won!
RECALL WALKER
CIRMCPIM 1 month ago
RECALL WALKER
CIRMCPIM 1 month ago
Will you be scab for Scott Walk-er, or will you be a man?
CIRMCPIM 2 months ago
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RECALL WALKER
CIRMCPIM 2 months ago
a very inspiring song at all times. the 99% wont forget you pete seeger. long live the workers!
artcristales 2 months ago
Woo_ is a cunt!!1111one
padraigomuireagain 2 months ago
@padraigomuireagain is gayer than justin beibr
THUMBS UP IF SIKIPEDIA BOUGHT U HEAR.
westendlad 2 months ago
One of the best!
KALLEMA123 2 months ago
They say in Wisconsin, there are no neutrals there;
you'll either be a union man or a thug for Scott Walker
My Mother is a teacher, and I'm a teacher's son;
She'll be with you fellow workers until this battle's done
alexbrower 2 months ago
RECALL WALKER
CIRMCPIM 2 months ago
Pete Seeger will be sung in Time Square.,St Pauls Cathedral, all over the Earth. But Which Side Are you on. I know where I am. I am one of the 99per cent
gazrobbo53 2 months ago
Occupy toilets!
dembaba99 2 months ago
what side are you on??????? Stop watching fix news and open your brain!!!! Power to the people!!! They have woken a gaint! We are here to stay:)
MsHappygirl23 2 months ago
OCCUPY EVERYTHING
arspaulina 2 months ago
Solidarity. IBEW Local 80, Norfolk VA.
OhmsLaw76 2 months ago
Stop occupying random bullshit, occupy the means of production!
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cambocan 3 months ago
occupy congress
1942LG2 3 months ago
As the cops are shooting into the occupy crowds, sending a Marine into the hospital, it becomes obvious that once again the jack boot thugs are defending their corporate masters instead of the people. The top 1% has always used the police to protect their private property and to break unions, etc. I am the 99% and so are the cops but they don't seem to all get it.
belindaesq 3 months ago
@belindaesq Carnegie used National Guard Troops to shoot steel workers in Pittsburg area and in Matewan, WV company thugs shot and killed many miners. Hence development of the term redneck due to scarfs to identify themselves. We need creative freedom to produce great new products but we also need basic freedom for workers and reduction in control by the 1%. I think both parties are obligated to them to a major extent.
foxvienna1 3 months ago
All Power To The Working Class!
PetrSilie 3 months ago
Ironic that people are arguing for a flat tax, which will give a huge tax cut to the rich and a huge tax increase to working people, in the comments section of this song. Talk about not getting it.
tixmastr 3 months ago
@tixmastr Damn straight - the obscene unfair income tax must be eliminated entirely beginning with the repeal of the 16th Amendment !!!
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
@AllBobsAllTheTime You're a moron.
tixmastr 3 months ago
@tixmastr You're the moron and a stupid can't-think-for-yourself sell-out sob as well.
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
@AllBobsAllTheTime I see the truth hurts.
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@tixmastr Unfortunately, the truth that the income tax is increasingly decimating the working middle class hurts not only you but virtually all Americans.
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
Republicans and organizations like CF & P want to eliminate minimum wage laws.
My Editorial: To live a peaceful and positive life, instead of holding grudges
Disassociate from people who are apathetic and indifferent.
Associate with those who care for the well being of humanity and other beings.
lamourlupus 3 months ago
@cutandshoottx I don't understand your sentence.
MrAaronrankin 3 months ago
Occupy Wall Street and Occupy the World.
MrAaronrankin 3 months ago
@MrAaronrankin ppl on Occupy Wall Street are way we don t us a lot of coal
cutandshoottx 3 months ago
@MrAaronrankin Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue !!!
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
God bless the brothers and sisters in Boston.
ronelvis 3 months ago
These calls for divisiveness make for great music but don't work all that well in real life ..
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
@AllBobsAllTheTime I think passion and protest are part of the human spirit, and when something's wrong, you call people out on it. Like my new hero, Shamar Thomas.
peacewillhappen 3 months ago
Big corporations have had tax breaks for years and excessive tax breaks since George Bush in 2001, for over 10 years. If giving breaks to the rich creates jobs, then where are these jobs? Remove all tax breaks for the rich. Tax the shit out of them and reward them a little for each job that they create or bring back from outsourcing! That's the side that I'm on. Unions forever! Yes, all human organizations have flaws. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater!
hairymelen 4 months ago
@hairymelen The time has come to eliminate this obscene outmoded and unfair income tax entirely.
AllBobsAllTheTime 3 months ago
@AllBobsAllTheTime And replace it with a flat-tax model?
shaynegryn 3 months ago
@shaynegryn We really need a repeal of the 16th Amemdment and disassociate taxes from income entirely.
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I have always had mixed feelings about unions. The purpose for their existence is a benevolent one. However, both of my Northern great-grandfathers worked under them. On my father's side, they beat him nearly to death for not agreeing with union leadership. On my mother's side, they collected his due money and did nothing to help his widowed family when he died of black lung. I'm an anarchist, truly, but is it so wrong that I'm wary of unions just as much as I am of governments?
DissidentDescendant 4 months ago
@DissidentDescendant No human organization is immune from exploitation and a leadership of scoundrels. Unions, for doing a lot of good, aren't immune to that, either. Besides your personal anecdotes, we have to remember that Teamsters supported Reagan during the 90s to provide such examples.
Baculus 3 months ago
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@DissidentDescendant No human organization is immune from exploitation and a leadership of scoundrels. Unions, for doing a lot of good, aren't immune to that, either. Besides your personal anecdotes, we have to remember that Teamsters supported Reagan during the 90s to provide such examples.
Baculus 3 months ago
@DissidentDescendant To make a correction, I meant "80s," not "90s," in my previous reply. I also wanted to add that I am pro-union, but our "pro" stance should never deter us from criticism or from striving to better ourselves. So, no, your position being "war" isn't wrong at all. We should always be wary and to always question.
Baculus 3 months ago
@DissidentDescendant BTW, I meant "80s" in my last response, RE: the Teamsters.
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@DissidentDescendant BTW, I meant "80s" in my last response, RE: the Teamsters.
Baculus 3 months ago
People look at teachers and firemen and say "Why dont they have shitty pentions like me?" When they should be be saying "Why dont i have a good pention like them?"
a1stooge 4 months ago
Great song, about great ppl.
STOPG20 5 months ago
I'm on the side of peaceful cooperation. A union may or may not be bad for a company, but violence should be dealt with as criminal activity and separate from union negotiations. Unfortunately legislation often enshrines violence on one side or the other. You have a right to negotiate for better benefits or quit. You have no right to prevent others from peacefully arriving at mutually beneficial work arrangements. Likewise no corp has any right to use threat of violence as intimidation.
superhoga 5 months ago
Typo, first word - Unions.
2000biteme 5 months ago
MegaAs,
Unons have fought for the workers' rights and benefits that we have today.
Your scabs would not even apply for these jobs without the rights and benefits that the unions have negotiated for.
You are a hypocrite.
2000biteme 5 months ago
I'm on the side of the scabs because the unions blocked unemployed people from getting jobs and took away people's right to negotiate freely.
MegaAstrodude 5 months ago
@MegaAstrodude This is the exact opposite of what Unions do.....Please educate yourself on how Unions really work before you spread misinformation. That attitude is why unemployment is over 9% for more than 2 years with 0 job growth and big corporations are raking in trillions of $ while the middle class becomes extinct.
towner406 4 months ago
@towner406 Yes, I am sure that extremely low tax rates for the richest Americans and the disappearance of the manufacturing industry in American has NOTHING to do with the extinction of the middle class...
DasBoogaloo 4 months ago
@DasBoogaloo
Strawman. He never said those things (which, I need to add, are things unions are strongly (and I thought obviously) AGAINST) had nothing to do with the dying middle-class. Perhaps you need to take his advice and educate yourself. :)
SgtSanchez 4 months ago
@MegaAstrodude You should be ashamed of yourself.
grandadspike 4 months ago
@grandadspike,
Why? Because I don't think it should be illegal to work for 15 dollars an hour because you can't find a job that pays 20 dollars an hour? The workers have rights and the unions were blocking those rights by making the workers starve. If a union wants to strike because its members want higher wages, then strike by all means, but don't physically attack workers needing jobs.
Besides, Seeger has never apologized for his support of Joseph Stalin, who killed millions.
MegaAstrodude 4 months ago
@MegaAstrodude please do your research before making such sweeping statements! Seeger said he left the Communist Party around 1950 and apologized years ago for not recognizing that Josef Stalin was a "very cruel misleader." But he told The Associated Press on Friday that the song he finally finished this year ("The Big Joe Blues") is a first for him, despite three visits to the Soviet Union beginning in the '60s.
timgws 4 months ago
@timgws,
Thanks for the info. I apologize for my above statement.
MegaAstrodude 4 months ago
The original and ultimate humanitarian
gorillashop 5 months ago
@gorillashop Not the first.
FriedEggsWithChips 4 months ago
I love Pete Seeger. An example of a man who could find common ground with everyone. He has done amazing things in his life - and in the face of all the nay-sayers (No, you can't stop the war, No you can't clean the Hudson etc etc etc).
patfromlogan 5 months ago
Les luttes au Quebec au debut des annees 70 ' etaient d 'une ferocite remarquables . Prise de controle par les travailleurs de leurs lieux de travail, solidarite des travailleurs du secteur prive envers les grevistes du public. but even if the government at the time acted like in Wisconson today... it was worth it. solidarite mes freres.
nitropost 6 months ago
Market economy has become an 'holy cow' which cannot be even discussed, but the market should be at the service of human beings and not the contrary as it is happening now....
bingoling 6 months ago
To all you pro capitalist bloggers. if you did not already know...Capitalism is on welfare right now. We have bailed it out a few times now. Rosevelts new deal, this last deal. Had it not been for "government interference" it may have failed all together! We will have to bail out again too. Please quit acting like capitalism is the best system ever! This is the USA if we wanted to be socialist who says we cant do it better then China and all these stupid other nations?
jerkappy 6 months ago
@jerkappy capitalism cannot be on welfare - then it would cease to be capitalism you fucking dipshit. Its a totally different thing when you change it around like that. It no longer meets the definition of capitalism
12345678tube 6 months ago
@jerkappy I'm not going to point out all the stuff the other guy said. part of the problem is you 2 are polar opposites. you both have slight inaccuracies. but one thing you said really irks me. CHINA ISN'T ACTUALLY SOCIALIST- it's a dictatorship or oligarchy. As was the USSR. As is North Korea. So yeah, we actually can't do the modern form of socialism under current USA government as democracy can only work intrinsically with a primarily capitalist society; (cont.)
Wingblade924 6 months ago
@Wingblade924 Than who is or ever was Socialist?
No socialist economy in history ever survived economically without healthy free enterprise sector to parasite on.
ssmusic214 6 months ago
That is crap and cheap propaganda. Compare Russia in 1900 with Russia in 1950. I do not approve the methods and ideology of Stalin in any way, but it is silly to claim, that they did not build up an enormous industry.
You only know the western system and claim it is the only working one, but look for instance at German fascism and its economic policies. They were evil racists, but their economic system was at least as successful as western individualism, capitalism, democracy.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Starting from 1890s and all they way thru Stolypin's reforms Industry and Economy of Imperial Russia was growing FASTER than anytime under Communist Rule. By 1913 Russia SURPASSED USA in oil production, railroad construction and became #1 exporter of food products in the world.
ssmusic214 5 months ago
Wow, you are so clueless. Of course there was a lot of oil and need for railroads, but Russia basically was a poor, primitive peasant state, which depended heavily on crop exports to buy even simple machines and was ruled by an aristocracy, that did not care about the future. There was no industrial base. In 1940 Russia was the second biggest economy only second to the USA and managed to build tanks, planes, rockets. Due to the Cold war, western people did not really study the Russian success
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist LOL!!! And US didn't need railroads and oil? Or food products? That's a good laugh.
Dumb moron! I don't need to "study the Russian success"! I was born in Moscow USSR and lived there for 30 years.
And you don't know what kind of idiot you're making of yourself trying to lecture me on that matter.
ssmusic214 5 months ago
Being born in Russia and having betrayed your country does not make you an expert in any way. Let me repeat the "discussion" I said that there are still Kolkhoz/socialist cooperatives in China. You said, that there cooperatives in capitalist countries too. Well, are there kolkhozy in the USA? No, there aren't.
So please, stop being so silly and get some basic education.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist In USA you are perfectly free to run YOUR business any way you want. Even to have Kolkhoz/socialist cooperatives if you so desire. But if you can not survive economically, it is YOUR PROBLEM!
Not US government or anybody else.
And what exactly that makes YOU and expert on ANYTHING?
Reading propaganda pamphlets?
What is your experience? Education? Work history?
ssmusic214 5 months ago
You are just a silly Russian fool. A Kolkhoz is not run by the owners, but the workers. Are there important cooperatives in the US? I don't know any. Mondragon seems to be the most important western cooperative, but it is very capitalist. Don't get on my nerves. I only said that there are some socialist cooperatives in China and you bitch around because you want to have a communism vs. capitalism debate.
I have studied European history and economics and I certainly earn more money than you do.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist Brainless Idiot! Co-op means workers ARE the owners. Have you ever seen real live Kolkhoz? I've been to many. Nothing was going there according to your theoretical studies.
Dumb moron!
ssmusic214 5 months ago
Just look for "workplace democracy" or "Workers' self-management" on wikipedia.
Btw. even if you little head does not manage to understand such informations: I am a capitalist and support capitalist reforms and have even worked at a (real) socialist cooperative that was changed into a modern capitalist company.
You are so stupid. You cannot differ between western, capitalist co-ops and socialist cooperations? Then don't waste my time. You are a very stupid person and should read more.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist Dumb Idiot!
Why do I need to "look up" anything in wiki? I've seen "Workers' self-management" in REAL LIFE, not in your theoretical fantasies. Every freshman student in USSR was sent to some agricultural establishment (Kolkhoz or Sovkhoz) to help with the harvest in the fall time. It was mandatory. And from your senseless blabbing i can see that you don't have a slightest clue how they work in real life. Neither you have a clue about history of Russia.
ssmusic214 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist Is that because of great "Russian success" USSR had to lock up all it's borders to prevent millions of people from fleeing the country? Or even shoot people trying to escape?
ssmusic214 5 months ago
I was not talking about humanitarian issues, but industrialisation itself. You can change the topic if you want, but do not twist my words.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ssmusic214 Technically no one ever was socialist because, while it might look good to some on paper, it fails in its true form. (Also a government can't exist if a society is truly socialist)
Wingblade924 5 months ago
We still have some "communist companies", which are organised by the workers/farmers themselves. They lack innovation and within the context of capitalist competition such communist structures lose market shares.
The current system of China may not be socialist, but the goal is to build up the means of production, so that maybe socialism can be achieved in a few centuries.
However, many western people think that capitalism + western democracy are the only possible system. That is nonsense
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist Nonsense! Industrial, agricultural and other cooperatives always existed in many capitalist countries for centuries. They have NOTHING to do with Communism. Free enterprise system means: you run your business any way you want.
ssmusic214 5 months ago
A socialist cooperative is the opposite of a free enterprise system and means that the workers rule and not the owners. In capitalist countries, they do not exist, apart from strange exceptions like some kibbuzim or Mondragon cooperation.
ChineseAtheist 5 months ago
@ChineseAtheist Nonsense! All those exist under free enterprise system. Where every entrepreneur is free to run his business the way he sees fit. Wich Would be absolutely impossible in any communist ruled country.
ssmusic214 5 months ago
@jerkappy otherwise you'd get an unfair taxation of those who work in traditionally higher paying industries like medicine and technology. This would lead to unfair representation as those of lower income would use their majority to continually raise taxes on the richer as it has no negative impact on them. Therefore that type of system would be unconstitutional as it would infringe on the implied right to prosperity which was also unofficially guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence
Wingblade924 6 months ago
LOL=KKK
M3x1c4nJSN 6 months ago
do not tax those whose that are fat and rich because they are job creators. Besides , what do you minimum wage workers know anyway. Except the total unfair nes of wealth distribution not only in the US but about in most of the capitalist country s
nitropost 6 months ago
Capitalism works well for Capitalists, it does not trickle down to the poor.
The Capitalist uses fear and social/religious values to get votes. Then have their way with you and your little bit of money.
Which side are you on?
Thanks for posting
holyrthanu 6 months ago
@holyrthanu capitalism makes TV's, cars, cheap heating fuels, food, ACs, the internet and cell phones accessible for the poor. The poor in the US are better off than the middle class in many countries w/o capitalism.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube
capitalism doesn't make that stuff. workers make it.
the only thing that capitalists make is profit from other people's work.
tickleperson2 6 months ago
GREAT SONG EVER !
STOPG20 6 months ago
This is such an inspiring song.
BadmouseBoy 6 months ago
unions stand in the way of capital who would take away employees rights and they are the only means to a living wage.
celestemekent 6 months ago
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unitedwebargin 7 months ago
unions stand in the way of progress
MrOhhellyeah 7 months ago in playlist music
@MrOhhellyeah
"Progress" stands in the way of workers interest. There's a lot more workers than bosses.
NorCalFolkSinger 7 months ago
@MrOhhellyeah Corrupted unions are what I think you mean. Unions of early 20th century were pretty damn important.
Forgeable 7 months ago
This is a song that all workers should listen to.
Remember there is power in a union.
If there were no unions ask yourself ; " what would my pay and conditions be like ?"
You may not like the answer.
ElyDeadpool2010 7 months ago
YO PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF LIL WAYNE?!!!
The321takeoff 7 months ago
Pete Seeger is great and I love a lot of what he has to say. I am not anti-union, as people should be free to organize if they wish. However, when they use the law, as they do today, to violate people's rights, I must protest them. They FORCE people to join as a condition of employment. They destroy property or lock down plants (not theirs to take or break). They have used violence extensively in their history making them no better than the robber barons. Unions killed manufacturing in the US.
12345678tube 7 months ago
@12345678tube
Though not in Germany...wow that's odd! Hmm.
longlivetheregime 7 months ago
@12345678tube Capitalism is what is killing the working class and placing jobs on the worst possible place you fucking retard.
Fuerzatriplea 6 months ago
@Fuerzatriplea "placing jobs on the worst possible place " Yeah, learn English, you retard. Capitalism is what created those jobs in the first place. Before that, there was serfdom or slavery. Learn, son, learn.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube Like wise Muppet. Capitalism took skill out of honest labor turned it in to chap mass labor and crewed the worker. big gap between the serfdom and the beginning of capitalism !
dobw2401 6 months ago
@dobw2401 took skill out and made cheap mass labor? Well it also made cheap mass production. The consumer became richer because he could buy more for his family. No cars, no computers, no airplanes, no MRI machines would have come out of communism - these were products of capitalist systems.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube I lolled at this one. You never heard of Tupolev and GAZ, I guess.
wnsiculi 6 months ago
@12345678tube someone doesn't know as much history as they think thy do.
tickleperson2 6 months ago
@tickleperson2 Please, preach on brother. What do you have to add besides your opinion about me?
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube Please, first, definitions; what do you call capitalism and when does it begin? So that we can point and laugh when you show yourself to be inevitably wrong.
wnsiculi 6 months ago
@wnsiculi Do I need to teach you? Educate yourself.
Communism has failed every time it has been tried - each and every time in every place under every set of circumstances it has FAILED. But You are probably so smart that you've figured it out. Thank the lord, our savior is here.
The Great Milton Friedman one said that Capitalism is a necessary condition for freedom, but not a sufficient one. In other words, without capitalism, you do not have freedom.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube Wonderful, wonderful freedom! Is that the freedom that capitalism has brought to the two-thirds of the world that live on a dollar a day? Why are the only capitalist countries that get to enjoy all that freedom the same ones that have all the big guns? Why isn't capitalism working in Hati or Kenya? Are they doing it wrong? Most of the world lives in abject poverty. Poverty that has been directly created by capitalism. Is this a great acheivment to you?
platypusmessiah 6 months ago
@platypusmessiah the world was poor serfs before capitalism. Most of the world is not capitalist - there is a central planning agency for economies. Please get your facts straight before giving your opinion.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube because milton friedman said it? ahahah
communism has not been tried anywhere... Socialism has, read something before you talk about it like you know something...
Capitalism, also failed in its starts, so has all the systems... They fail in the beggining, experience is gained and then they succeed... Socialism has made its first great footsteps in CCCP and a lot of great experience is gathered as to how to not fail next time...
johnfoxstacy 6 months ago
@johnfoxstacy Great footsteps? 60 000 000 dead is a great step? Youre a fucking idiot and a psychopath. Socialism was a form of communism, a path to the final workers paradise, as described by marx. Of course, he was full of shit. Hopefully there is no next time for the sick fucks like Mao and Stalin. Capitalism failed by making the US a super power as the Soviet union collapsed with breadlines, and piles of sick, cold and hungry people who died in the streets. Yeah, real failure.
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube If you think Capitalism is doing the US any favors right now you are truly ignorant of the world around you.
theshadowavatar 6 months ago
@theshadowavatar If you think the US is truly capitalist you are ignorant of the world around you. You want MORE central planning? More bureaucracy? More government? Those are precisely the things that have brought America to it's knees.
"If one rejects laissez faire on account of man’s fallibility and
moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every
kind of government action." - Ludvig Von Mises
12345678tube 6 months ago
@12345678tube 60 mill? Thats what they tell you? ahahahah... No need to answer, kisses super power.
johnfoxstacy 6 months ago
@12345678tube How many times have " free societies" failed? They have ALL FAILED! All societies will fail, does not mater what kind they are. You might want to look and see just how long China has been soverign. Milton Friedman huh? Not good enough man. Dude your precious capitalism is on government welfare bro! Welfare...a socalist program! LOL Twice we have bailed out capitalism because of greed. Rosevelts new deal(socailist program) and this new deal(welfare check)
jerkappy 6 months ago
@jerkappy That is not capitalism. That is corporatism, which is another form of big government. The economy crashed due to government intervention. The new deal fucked up things worse than ever. We didnt recover until 1946. The depression started in 1929. The new deal was useless (in fact, harmful). The depression of 1920 was way worse but the government stayed out and we recovered in 18 MONTHS! Goddamn you armchair historians and economists - you dont know shit.
12345678tube 6 months ago
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sanyalindrajit 7 months ago
LOW is the worker's right!
stamnion 7 months ago
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TheMakemFolksinger 7 months ago
Oops, I should have said...his SON Tao...:D (No offense meant!)
amerikanprincess 7 months ago
Silly it says "Unknown Venue" when 6/18/11 obviously means The Rainbow Stage at the most recent edition of The Clearwater Great Hudson River Revival, which will again feature Pete (this time with daughter Tao) this year. It should feature Pete, since he started the Clearwater campaign to clean up the Hudson in the first place. (I will be there, as I have been since 2007, as one of the many performers. Not on the Rainbow Stage, however.)
amerikanprincess 7 months ago
Rich or Poor? Which side are you on? It's just that simple. Will you give your life to the rich or to the poor? Just ask yourself, have I lead a good life?
holyrthanu 7 months ago
Most of the corporate elite and their political mostly republican minions ,are crooks stealing and destroying our labor and our resources . history is repeating itself only they're more informed and very well organized. this is a huge war on this country by a few hundred corporate terrorists. don't let them buy your soul.
jjjackieeee 8 months ago
@jjjackieeee youre wrong when you say its mostly republicans its all politicians the 2 party system is just a way of electing a different facist every 4-8 years what we need is more populists ready to fight
seymour442 7 months ago
@seymour442 true, most people dont get it, unions need to be cleaned of corruption, a worker is treated and paid better in the union, im in the international laborers union
WVliberty 7 months ago
@jjjackieeee unions need to cleaned of corruption and the UMWA shouldnt support anti coal democrats, the democratic party in my state has been fucking my state for years
WVliberty 7 months ago
@WVliberty yeah WV is one of the richest states if not the most, but you'd never know driving through it.
cypressride 7 months ago
@cypressride true, coal/oil/natural gas/wind power/coal power-largest exporter of power in the US , we are the most exploited people in The US
WVliberty 7 months ago
follow me no sides no sides xx
SidJames901 8 months ago
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Russianppshfun 8 months ago
@Russianppshfun You have a pretty misguided view of what anarchism is. First, there are variations of anarchism. Second, those violent movements you are refering to are not representative of the 'society' anarchism aims to create. While many of those folks identify as anarchists, anarchist thought is not about black bloc tactics and violence, but solidarity. However, if you are abandoning any sense of revolutionary anti-capitalism, you are just part of the problem within the union movement.
bloodstalker420 8 months ago
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gazrobbo53 8 months ago
I'm on the side of peaceful voluntary cooperation.
superhoga 9 months ago
They're trying to destroy the middle class as we speak. Which side are you on?
kathades 9 months ago
@kathades I'm on the side of the middle class, which means we don't let the rich destroy the working class. Because if they do, then they start to oppress us. Its about keeping a balance and about keeping the 'middle way'. Its not the working class fighting against the middle, its the working class ensuring they aren't slaves making the rich richer. The rich have enough power without getting the middle class to fight their battles for them. Its the working class which need our help.
chickinchainmail 8 months ago
@chickinchainmail The working class and the middle class are about the same thing, in my opinion. There is a common 95% at the bottom. We should all stand together and demand more equity.
kathades 8 months ago
@kathades I think your being generous at putting the rich at 5%, but I agree, the rest of us are all being screwed. I think i understnd in a way, the rich are trying to turn us all into their cashcows without providing fair return. Unfirtunatkey we live in wolrd of the media now, and their propaganda is ttoo powerful. Its circuses without the bread.
chickinchainmail 8 months ago
@kathades That of working people, because there is no middle class anymore. Taking the lead from the likes of Ayn Rand and Grover Norquist, Ronald Reagan and his political ilk saw to that.
odinfromcentr2 8 months ago
@odinfromcentr2 Agreed. It disappears a little each day. Before long we'll be back to the good ol' days of pre-FDR working conditions. Ayn Rand suggests the rich go on strike; I think I support that.
kathades 8 months ago
Happy birthday Pete!
jgrannell1 9 months ago
Amazing.
halation777 9 months ago
You won't keep anything good unless you appreciate it and keep on fighting for it!
Dlanorepmart 9 months ago
these days most people are all on the same side, greed
byebyebirdie2 9 months ago
@byebyebirdie2 Amen
LoveThinkLaugh 9 months ago
I was on the 26th March in London. 500,000 marching for public services. Previously NALGO, now UNISON. Which side are you on - the union side and supporting those in need.
pdavis500 9 months ago
I know which side I'm on. The union now. The union forever.
RobertIngersoll 9 months ago
i'm a kentuckian. we fought in harlan county for our rights to work in decent conditions as well as be paid a fair wage. they called it bloody harlan county for a reason. j h blaire brought in rilfes, pisotls, even a machine gun, no joke. the miners did the same. taking away union rights won't solve shit. it will make it worse. screw tea party rallies, i'd rather they call me a union thug than take away my right to unionize
MultiGeekmaster 9 months ago
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