you talk of ethics, which is fair enough. I dont agree with religion, but why should it be outlawed because of my opinions/ethics? what if stem cells had the chance to give a semi paralysed child their full ability like the rest of us? If that child was denied stem cell implants that they wanted, wouldnt there be a much more serious ethical issue? What if the mother of that child was willing to donate an embryo?
So clearly no one would seriously advocate that women proceeding through their normal menstrual cycles are doing anything wrong even though there are embryos being destroyed all the time, the point is that noting this fact should help us reconsider whether it is best to consider an embryo as having the same moral weight as something more like us, for example something that has implanted and viably developed in the womb for a while. Thanks for the dialogue and noting an ambiguity in my delivery.
"...The total rate of natural loss of human embryos increases to at least 80 percent if one counts from the moment of conception. About half of the embryos lost are abnormal, but half are not, and had they implanted they would probably have developed into healthy babies."
The women and their husbands or partners never even know that conception has taken place; the embryos disappear from their wombs in their menstrual flows. In fact, according to Opitz, embryologists estimate that the rate of natural loss for embryos that have developed for seven days or more is 60 percent..."
Here is an excerpt from a 2004 article on this topic from Reason Magazine, hope it helps: "Opitz, a professor of pediatrics, human genetics, and obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Utah, testified before the President's Council on Bioethics that between 60 and 80 percent of all naturally conceived embryos are simply flushed out in women's normal menstrual flows unnoticed. This is not miscarriage we're talking about..."
Thanks for your comment Andy, I hope this will help to clarify my jest: for every embryo that eventually becomes a baby, many, many more are produced and naturally do not become a baby (i.e. fail to implant in the uterine wall, etc.). So if one believes embryos are persons, then millions of "persons" are regularly "killed" through a woman's normal cycles in which she is sexually active.
@omarsultanhaque So why blame the woman? It's not done on purpose. Please use your brain! And if embryos aren't precursors to people, what is??? You're a joke.
Are you are out of your mind Dr. Haque? Women should be convicted for having their monthly cycles?? What are you talking about? They pass unfertilized eggs with every cycle, not embryos. And for your information, embryos DO turn into human beings. That's where you came from and so did everyone else. Please get your facts correct before talking such utter bullshit. It's the misinformed, ignorants like you that the scientific community and rationalists very correctly laugh at.
After 6 months of offering stem cell therapy in combination with the venous angioplasty liberation procedure, patients of CCSVI Clinic have reported excellent health outcomes. Ms. Kasma Gianopoulos of Athens Greece, who was diagnosed with the Relapsing/Remitting form of MS in 1997 called the combination of treatments a “cure”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
“I feel I am completely cured” says Ms. Gianopoulos, “my symptoms have disappeared and I have a recovery of many functions, notably my balance and my muscle strength is all coming (back). Even after six months, I feel like there are good changes happening almost every day. Before, my biggest fear was that the changes wouldn’t (hold). I don’t even worry about having a relapse anymore”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
A group of Canadian patients just back from Noble have reported similar results. “I can actually see what I thought were long-dead muscles forming in my feet” said Larry Vermeersch of Kenora, Ontario. “My balance is back and I’m walking without a cane. I’m a pretty hard guy to convince, but getting these two procedures together has made me a believer. I’m looking forward to the physio ahead because I can feel everything coming back.” Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
A universal benefit reported by every patient has been the recovery of bladder control. Most MS patients have various bladder control symptoms that include urinary urgency, incontinence, nocturia, or urinary hesitancy as a result of the disruption of electrical impulses from the brain to the nerves and muscles that are involved in emptying the bladder (pudenal nerve, urethral sphincter, detrusor muscle). Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
Other recent MS patients who have had Autologous Stem Cell Transplantation (ASCT), or stem cell therapy have posted videos and comments on YouTube v=jFQr2eqm3Cg. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
Dr.Avneesh Gupte, the Neurosurgeon at Noble Hospital performing the procedure has been encouraged by results in Cerebral Palsy patients as well. “We are fortunate to be able to offer the treatment because not every hospital is able to perform these types of transplants.You must have the specialized medical equipment and specially trained doctors and nurses”. Log on to ccsviclinic.ca for more information.
With regard to MS patients, “We are cautious, but nevertheless excited by what patients are telling us. Suffice to say that the few patients who have had the therapy through us are noticing recovery of neuro deficits beyond what the venous angioplasty alone should account for”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
Dr. Hemangi of Noble continues: “These are early days and certainly all evidence that the combination of liberation and stem cell therapies working together at this point is anecdotal. However I am not aware of other medical facilities in the world that offer the synthesis of both to MS patients on an approved basis and it is indeed a rare opportunity for MS patients to take advantage of a treatment that is quite possibly unique in the world”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
Autologous stem cell transplantation is a procedure by which blood-forming stem cells are removed, and later injected back into the patient. All stem cells are taken from the patient themselves and cultured for later injection. In the case of a bone marrow transplant, the HSC are typically removed from the Pelvis through a large needle that can reach into the bone. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
The technique is referred to as a bone marrow harvest and is performed under a general anesthesia. The incidence of patients experiencing rejection is rare due to the donor and recipient being the same individual. This remains the only approved method of the SCT therapy. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
you talk of ethics, which is fair enough. I dont agree with religion, but why should it be outlawed because of my opinions/ethics? what if stem cells had the chance to give a semi paralysed child their full ability like the rest of us? If that child was denied stem cell implants that they wanted, wouldnt there be a much more serious ethical issue? What if the mother of that child was willing to donate an embryo?
jimmyhoffa9 1 month ago
So clearly no one would seriously advocate that women proceeding through their normal menstrual cycles are doing anything wrong even though there are embryos being destroyed all the time, the point is that noting this fact should help us reconsider whether it is best to consider an embryo as having the same moral weight as something more like us, for example something that has implanted and viably developed in the womb for a while. Thanks for the dialogue and noting an ambiguity in my delivery.
omarsultanhaque 2 months ago
@omarsultanhaque
discarded eggs during a menstrual cycle are:
#1: not embryos
#2: not a voluntary decision
fryroadnursery 1 week ago
"...The total rate of natural loss of human embryos increases to at least 80 percent if one counts from the moment of conception. About half of the embryos lost are abnormal, but half are not, and had they implanted they would probably have developed into healthy babies."
omarsultanhaque 2 months ago
The women and their husbands or partners never even know that conception has taken place; the embryos disappear from their wombs in their menstrual flows. In fact, according to Opitz, embryologists estimate that the rate of natural loss for embryos that have developed for seven days or more is 60 percent..."
omarsultanhaque 2 months ago
Here is an excerpt from a 2004 article on this topic from Reason Magazine, hope it helps: "Opitz, a professor of pediatrics, human genetics, and obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Utah, testified before the President's Council on Bioethics that between 60 and 80 percent of all naturally conceived embryos are simply flushed out in women's normal menstrual flows unnoticed. This is not miscarriage we're talking about..."
omarsultanhaque 2 months ago
Thanks for your comment Andy, I hope this will help to clarify my jest: for every embryo that eventually becomes a baby, many, many more are produced and naturally do not become a baby (i.e. fail to implant in the uterine wall, etc.). So if one believes embryos are persons, then millions of "persons" are regularly "killed" through a woman's normal cycles in which she is sexually active.
omarsultanhaque 2 months ago
@omarsultanhaque So why blame the woman? It's not done on purpose. Please use your brain! And if embryos aren't precursors to people, what is??? You're a joke.
andysonline 2 months ago
@omarsultanhaque And you know what, don't bother to explain your point of view. You guys are way too brainswashed by religion to make any sense.
andysonline 2 months ago
Are you are out of your mind Dr. Haque? Women should be convicted for having their monthly cycles?? What are you talking about? They pass unfertilized eggs with every cycle, not embryos. And for your information, embryos DO turn into human beings. That's where you came from and so did everyone else. Please get your facts correct before talking such utter bullshit. It's the misinformed, ignorants like you that the scientific community and rationalists very correctly laugh at.
andysonline 2 months ago
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After 6 months of offering stem cell therapy in combination with the venous angioplasty liberation procedure, patients of CCSVI Clinic have reported excellent health outcomes. Ms. Kasma Gianopoulos of Athens Greece, who was diagnosed with the Relapsing/Remitting form of MS in 1997 called the combination of treatments a “cure”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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“I feel I am completely cured” says Ms. Gianopoulos, “my symptoms have disappeared and I have a recovery of many functions, notably my balance and my muscle strength is all coming (back). Even after six months, I feel like there are good changes happening almost every day. Before, my biggest fear was that the changes wouldn’t (hold). I don’t even worry about having a relapse anymore”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
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A group of Canadian patients just back from Noble have reported similar results. “I can actually see what I thought were long-dead muscles forming in my feet” said Larry Vermeersch of Kenora, Ontario. “My balance is back and I’m walking without a cane. I’m a pretty hard guy to convince, but getting these two procedures together has made me a believer. I’m looking forward to the physio ahead because I can feel everything coming back.” Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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A universal benefit reported by every patient has been the recovery of bladder control. Most MS patients have various bladder control symptoms that include urinary urgency, incontinence, nocturia, or urinary hesitancy as a result of the disruption of electrical impulses from the brain to the nerves and muscles that are involved in emptying the bladder (pudenal nerve, urethral sphincter, detrusor muscle). Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
Other recent MS patients who have had Autologous Stem Cell Transplantation (ASCT), or stem cell therapy have posted videos and comments on YouTube v=jFQr2eqm3Cg. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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Dr.Avneesh Gupte, the Neurosurgeon at Noble Hospital performing the procedure has been encouraged by results in Cerebral Palsy patients as well. “We are fortunate to be able to offer the treatment because not every hospital is able to perform these types of transplants.You must have the specialized medical equipment and specially trained doctors and nurses”. Log on to ccsviclinic.ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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With regard to MS patients, “We are cautious, but nevertheless excited by what patients are telling us. Suffice to say that the few patients who have had the therapy through us are noticing recovery of neuro deficits beyond what the venous angioplasty alone should account for”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
Dr. Hemangi of Noble continues: “These are early days and certainly all evidence that the combination of liberation and stem cell therapies working together at this point is anecdotal. However I am not aware of other medical facilities in the world that offer the synthesis of both to MS patients on an approved basis and it is indeed a rare opportunity for MS patients to take advantage of a treatment that is quite possibly unique in the world”. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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Autologous stem cell transplantation is a procedure by which blood-forming stem cells are removed, and later injected back into the patient. All stem cells are taken from the patient themselves and cultured for later injection. In the case of a bone marrow transplant, the HSC are typically removed from the Pelvis through a large needle that can reach into the bone. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago
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The technique is referred to as a bone marrow harvest and is performed under a general anesthesia. The incidence of patients experiencing rejection is rare due to the donor and recipient being the same individual. This remains the only approved method of the SCT therapy. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information.
robert80taylor 8 months ago