Read the Bible man thats what its all about, not our story, the evidince is in the education you recieve from the WORD! It is not about PM, I wasted 5 minutes on you you clown, ill never get those 5 minutes back! AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!
AM owns his channel time..He isnt paid to be on some one elses time.. You can't compare him to someone like joel olsteen or joyce meyer is paid to be on tv...AM buys his time...Just sayn..His beliefs are shared by many that have been passed down from generations and many teach as he does around the world. I like AM but I also know no one is 100% corrrect in all there teachings. All people make mistakes as well..his predictions in his early days was his.
@BillLykken I know and that is why i said..'just sayn'......My main point was to say he didnt make this belief up there are many who teach this...and to say AM has made mistakes..he is just a man. Very knowledgeable man though..Like or hate him. I hope my comment that his doctrine wasnt made up by him helps others"question to grow" is all :)
I have watched Arnold Murray for a couple of years. I don't need to know where he went to school or much else about him. I don't agree with everything he teaches but I do agree with a great deal of it. I have learned in life that never to place my faith in things human. People are falible. God isn't. If we can remember to love God and one another it will lead us to where we are supposed to go in this life.
@Oneofthekings86 How can it help me to grow? So that I can better understand the person. I post my Testimony here, people know my past. I posted how I study the Bible, now people know how I do that. I have stated that I have no college edu. People have stoped listening to me on that point alone, and I am OK with that. People should ask questions. It keeps us ALL in check. Think about it!!!
@BillLykken Fair enough I dont see how it would help me grow. He teaches the word of God better than any pastor I have heard so far, therefore knowing his testimony, college background, and why he doesnt have an "email, does not bother me. Being that I will assume and only assume being u recommended ministerfortson, carm, conquer2day,and "google. You believe that he is a false teacher. That is the reason I believe that a person would want all those things. So am I right or not.
"to question is to grow" you won't get any argument about that statement from me.To ask the right QUESTIONS ah now that's the trick.To add the right questions for you my not be the right questions for ether's.My self i have found a lot of the answers "not all" by reading the Bible and yes watching A.M. Is A.M, a prophet my opinion there are no prophets around today.He is an exceptional teacher.But every one has to come to GOD in the way that's best for the individual. With GOD'S help
@MrJohnf5 Have you asked A.M. the questions I have asked in this video? Have you Googled his name like I asked you? There are 3 channels here on YouTube I want you to go to. 1) ministerfortson. He left a comment a few down take a look at his site. 2) CARMVideos they have some videos on A.M. 3) is Conquer2day you will like his videos on A.M.
@BillLykken i did google A.M. no more than name calling and opinions by people with a vested interests and it's Shirley not about saving your soul."$" the first vids same thing if you Liston closely "he consulted with 2 of his colligs" not the book and the serpents seed has nothing at all to do with Ham. and carm videos "DO YOU LISTON TO THIS GUY" the 3rd interesting but READ IT FOR YOUR SELF look up some words with a stongs 1 why is cane not mentioned in Adams blood line? johnf5@sonic.net
@BillLykken i gave you my email not enough space to carry on intelligent debate trust me just watch the first parts like 1- 4 or five of Shepard chapel genesis take a king James & a Strongs concordance READ IT FOR YOUR SELF LOOK THE WORDS UP FOR YOUR SELF then make your own mind up.20 + years of watching A.M. i understand a lot more of it maybe it's right or maybe not but i have to tell you the bible makes a hole lot more sense to me now and the Bible..well it is pretty cool "keep looking"
this is just so sad what is your problem is it that he teaches and doesn't beg for money and maybe is pointing people the right direction like to think, research, and dig into the Bible fore the answers or should people just blindly follow most the ether churches even when they teach contrary to what is in the Bible he seem to be making a lot of churches angry HMMMM. wonder why? my suggestion would be CHECK IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF just a thought.
@MrJohnf5 I have never made a commet on A.M. asking for money. As for digging in to the Bible take a look at my two vidoes called "Bible and Tools" I did check out A.M. Have you???? Google his name and see what you find.
I am just asking Questions.....To Question is to Grow
You can look at the videos I posted and see that the SC cult members never want to use the Bible to back what they say. All they can talk about is the false info that Murray gave them about the Rapture. They are rude and not Christ like at all. They refuse to pick up a Bible and they don't care about teaching others, just defending Satan's servant Murray.
@ministerfortson I agree. I have recived many angry postings on this video. You do great work with your videos, keep up the great work. And remember...
You guys are a trip. I've been with Arnold Murray since day one and I've never heard him teach anything nothing the word of God teaches me not Arnold Murray. We read the bible. Thanks be to our heavenly father for truth and love through his son our Lord and savior. Come on people get with Gods word or be forever cast out!.
@TrinketStarFire I know that I just have DSL I have better things to spend my money on then High Speed Internet. What I have is fine for me. I have asked in my other vidoes if there is a software I can buy to fix that problem.
Get your facts straight BEFORE you go blasting someone for something they did.
Redo your homework. Jim and Tammy Baker ? Dude lolz, your joking right ? There is no comparison. Mr Murray has never duped anyone out of anything, least of all create a building scam/retirement center, or crystal cathedral. Get your facts straight. Hate all you want. Mr Murray lives under the blood. Not just the water.
@TrinketStarFire As for the Jim Bakker thing. I was just pointing out that AFTER Jim got out of jail he (Jim) stated that he (Jim) did not have any Bible education and that he (Jim) was wrong about what he (Jim) said and did on the show. I am just asking what is A.M. education is that is all.
I am amazed at all the man worship there is forMurray! I'm so glad that I came out of that Babylon of deadly poison! Virtually EVERYTHING you see written by a SC student is vile hatred! They are so smart and know everything, not seeing that they are blind, wretched and naked, being taught that knowledge is the key to being pleasing to the Father! Grace is poured out at the WILL of the Father, not because you know who the father of Cain is or what it means to uncover your fathers nakedness!
With some of your phrasing in your questions and your topics, you seem very much to be LDS. Why do you even want questions answered from Arnold Murray? If you dont like him, dont watch him. I personally think he is a very good Bible teacher. He doesnt beg money like other evangelists and you will not find fault in any of his teaching. And as far as his personal life, that really is none of your business.
@jimu57 I have my testimony on my channel, take a look. I dont watch him. I am just trying to ask questions. I asked the same questions to my pastor. The questions are harmless. Have you asked A.M. these questions?
@jimu57 You said "you will not find fault in any of his teaching" I studied with this man for many years. There are MANY faults with his teaching! One example, to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is for one of the "Elect" to refuse to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them when they are delivered up! Oh my goodness there is absolutely not a Shred of biblical evidence for that! For years, he stated that this was his opinion... but for the last many years, he says it like it is a written fact.
@bryanwilliamsjr First off I never make any point of A.M. and 1984. And as for College I never did go to college. BUT I am willing to state that here and now, How about A.M.? I am just asking questions, there is nothing wrong with asking questions.
Can any1 of u cRapture believers tell us y u dont ever read nor quote 2 Thess 2, Matt 24, Lu 21, Mk 13, Ez 13 KJV?!All u do=parrot what sum cRapt THEORIST says ABOUT THE WORD ITSELF,CHANGING IT TO FIT THEIR ERRONEUS "VAIN IMAGINATIONS OF MEN."But they quote 1 Thess 4 all day long when its subj="where the dead r,"NOT that He comes 1st to "fly" us away (end of Ez 13: GOD st8s "I'm against those (false teachers) who teach my ppl to FLY to save their souls!"the NIV has CHANGED WORD "FLY" TO "BIRDS!"
Jesus didn't go to college! He was not ordained by anyone. I have a problem with Arnold Murry because he thinks that we are living in the tribulation period right now.
He believes that the rapture has al ready taken place. How can that be when the church is STILL HERE?
@tonyteb:again,u r false witness/prophet/liar,whether in ignorance,deceit,deliber8,or blinded by God Himself.2 Thess 2=Gods Own Words:"I will send them Strong delusion that they should believe the LIE"),it does not matter.A lie = a lie = a lie.The Word says we gather back to He @ His return ("777") AFT the anti-c coming 1st claiming 2 b christ come to "fly" us all away.THEN AFT the TRUE Christ comes to "DESTROY THE WICKED ONE (& his literal AWA spiritual wicked followers/seed/children)=2 Thess 2
@ballistix01 prove i lie second that fly away stuff dont matter to me because i am a partial preterist and dont belive in the rapture but nice try and mark my words you will be waiting for a "antichrist" for a long time and you will never see him in the way that murray teaches you say i lie thats funny considering you listen to arnold murray the master at taking things out of imediate and historical context ie this generation not when isreal became a nation remeber in matt THE LORD curse the
@ballistix01 never to bear fruit again God says the first man adam he says no it says the one from above is above all but he says you were above too then it seems that argument for Christ is invaild jesus said some of you standing here will not taste death till you see the son of man comming in great power and glory u think there are people 2000 years old walking around
@MonaSallie....wow you obviously haven't watched Pastor Murray, He has NEVER said the rapture has taken place....He don't even teach that ignorant doctrine
@MonaSallie: i agree ur 1st assertion about "doctor8s acclaimed of men."However, u tell a falsehood when u say AM said those things because thats quite simply NOT true.He says [accordg 2 KJV!] we r in the 5th ["555"] leadg up to the 1st trib of 2 ["666"] in KJV, or #1: trib of anti-c come 1st claimg to b Christ to fly his ppl out; THEN the True Christ returns AFT @ 7th ["777"] to "DESTROY THE WICKED ONE BY BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING [2 THESS 2,OR HAVENT U READ IT,LISTENg 2 OTHER "MEN & WOMEN?!"?!
@MonaSallie:PLS stop parroting falsehoods.AM NEVER has st8d ANY of what U said he said!He has st8d we r living in 555 (5th seal,trump,vial)=pre-trib era rapidly approach'g d trib period accordg 2 all d prophecies rapidly being fulfilled in our lifetimes(com'g trib=666=satan coming claimg 2 b Christ come 2 fly u all away!),THEN AFT our True Lord returns 2 us @ 777=last/7th seal,trump,vial 2 destroy the works of devil w/ Brightness of His Coming(KJV 2 Thess 2,Mat 24,Lu 21,etc).Ez13:20 KJV=NO "fly"
@MonaSallie:Also again,AM has NEVER st8d cRapture's already occurred!Where do u get this?!R u listeng 2 other idjits slander AM & thusly Gods own Word as a result?!4 Gods Word=what AM teaches,chptr by chptr,vrs by vrs,precept upon precept,w complete consider'n of orig Hebr word mean'gs,transl8ions,transliter8ions.He RARELY interjects his own opin EXCEPT evry 1ce in blue now/then when he will plainly,openly TELL U its his BIBLICALLY educ8d 1(60+ yrs study).4 most part/99% he sticks 2 accur8 WORD
Im just helping you grow. All you have to do is read a King James Bible . Start from the beginning and continue reading. I live in a spainish speaking country and cant read spainish. I was starving to read english and somebody gave me the Bible in english. First time I read it at 59 years old. It will answer all your Questions Enjoy
@bernie018 First off I have read the Bible from cover to cover over 12 times already. Second I do not have questions about the Bible I have questions for A.M. I am asking question for , at , too, and of A.M.
follow the money who is paying you '? you cant get fruit from a thorn bush. If i read the KJB to my son word by word and explain it to him that GOD wrote the bible . Where does the false teaching come in ? Where do you get your salary?
@bernie018 I am not asking for any money. I do not point out any money that A.M. is making. I am just asking questions that is all, there is nothing wrong with that.
By the way, how is YOUR PAST looking about now? Men are human, they fall, they backslide. I am not saying Murray has, I dont know - dont care. BUT if he has anything offensive in his past, I feel sure he has repented of it. He knows a lot of things. He has either studied on his own, or been schooled. What is your problem?
I believe Pastor Murry was called by God which is better than any seminary or college learning. He, not like most pastors, do not take his living or money, from his church. As the Savior said, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." I went to a church with many false teachings that I didn't know about and through Pastor Murry, God has blessed me with the truth and I know Pastor Murry is a disciple of Christ, by his faith and love for Heavenly Father and the Savior and the Holy Ghost.
In essence,Truth;U do not have ?'s for AM.U question the Word,as written 2 mankind, fr the orig Hebr,chaldean,aramaic(OT)& Septuagint,as well as greek manuscripts(NT covenant fulfillment) fr KJV. U need to purchase a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance & learn to use it (looks hard at first, but isnt, its easy) with a KJV or Companion KJV Bible. Then study along w/ AM, & you'll see he speaks the Word in Truth as Abba Adonai EliYahveh / Yehashuah HaMashiach intended, & not false churchianity folklore
@BillLykken: Well then, what is it you are questioning exactly? Are your questions not for (& of-) the Word?, - & AM simply teaches it as was written. Then what's exactly the problem you have here? The Word is the Word, despite ANY nor ALL men's pasts nor actions, for none of we are perfect. It's THE MESSAGE, NOT THE MESSENGER (except in the case of Christ, for they are one in the same). AM simply teaches the Word in Truth as written w/o deviations, fables/fairy-tales, nor traditions of men.
@ballistix01 nonsence when jesus said this generation why does he say no that generation it was written this generation does he not belive Gods word i guess not cus he changes the historical context to make it the generation of the fig tree wich is also taken out of context luke say fig tree and all the trees in matt jesus curses the fig tree to never bear fruit again and finally isreal is the olive tree
@tonyteb well, we can either take "this generation" literally (and subscribe to preterism) or we can take "this generation" to mean the nation/race of Israel. Far greater men than you and I have been debating this and every other biblical passage for far longer than you or I. Biblical disagreement is the reason we have so many denominations, theories, and teachings. Everybody believes they are right and any other discussion is accused of false teaching. Heard it before.
@Floormat11 though as im sure you know generation can not mean nation or race in context it would make no sence and i think we know why people try to make it other than its clear referance so i do subscribe to a partial preterist interpitation thats not a dividing issue nor is it something i would say someone is a false teacher because of but when a man like murray straight out lies thats a problem i have people in my own family who follow him and think only there going to heaven cuz they
@Floormat11 the key of david cus they know the antichrist comes first and like i told them they will never see the antichrist in the way they describe. because its not biblical i know what an antichrist is because i read the bible 1st jn not someones going beyond what is written. Jesus also said some of you standing here will not taste death till you see the son of man coming with power and his angels a verse used by athiest to show jesus was wrong i dont belive that he was wrong.
@ballistix01 i hate when people put on the same level that when you ? murray your really ? GOD himself and that is just plain stupidity i watched arnold murray for years friend and the gut so plainly takes things out of context so often i find it amazing that anyone with the ability to read can not see he takes no consideration for context i mean i dont understand whats so special about that people think cuz they got a strongs the can read greek hebrew and arimaic context defines words
OF COURSE AM's controversial; because the WORD ITSELF IS controversial; always has been,& is now as wel;& will continue up until the "end: of this earth age; but NOT forever, as God Himself will eventually clear ALL air of doubt & skepticism. Christ's own Word;s cause dissention, as obvious today as it was then, & on back towards "the beginning." Ppls of the world will often hate His Words, unless some perhaps "come around" of own accord or r "Touched" but IN THEIR OWN WALK & TIME/CLOCK-FRAME.
lmho if you want to know get you but up and go ask him then. sound like to me your bored, if you got time on your hands like this you should do more reading of the word and less gum flapping.. you called your self a Christ man but i tell you now it dose not matter if you were a harlot before you started preaching or a murderer such as Moses . once forgiven by God you can do His will. Stop your whining . you big baby
@yhvhshamah I am just asking questions. There is now harm in doing so. I do not watch any TV preacher. I do read the Bible daily, see my other videos. You ask about the past. OK I have posted my Testimony on my channel take a look. And as for "forgivness" A.M. has not hurt me I am just asking questions.
So, you would reject Moses as a leader when you found out he murdered an Egyptian. You would spearhead a movement against the apostle Paul once you discovered he had had Christians killed and then changed his name! *You* could do a lot of damage trying to predict WHICH preacher, according to their backgrounds, MIGHT come to give the church a black eye. God's advice to you is this "By their fruits ye shall know them." Not by their history or their salvation story!
@DeconPossessed NO NO NO I just want to know the Testimony of the people I listen to. And as for their past...PLEASE..... Have you seen my testimony vids? Believe me I have danced with the devil myself. Please take a look at my testimony videos and you will know where I came from. To Question is to Grow! Acts 25:1 - 26:32
every church i have gone to seems to be lacking something, most pastors won't even answer those question, don't want tobe bothered with it.. but then we now have a president that spends millions to hide his so called history.. i'll trust this pastor over the president just on his mirits alone, mirits of the president prove his a lier. that's why i didn't vote for him or j mccain , but wrote in my choice r.paul. because i did look into it. a that's all i can do and make a choice
Thank you for all that but I did not ask about the president or your voting history. Web sites can be any thing they want. Could not any one with a Christian web site post some testimonies. Could not AM do the same? And I do not watch him. Infact I do not watch any TV preacher. I am just asking questions about AM that is all. To Question is to Grow
@BillLykken: How about stop worrying about AM's background, that's the stuff for the devil's doubt playground. It is the WORD you should be concerned with as a Christian. Then, if so, watch & study with AM. It will tell you all you need to know about where he stands in relation to teaching, "rightfully dividing" the Word in Truth, Honesty, & Integrity. The Message, NOT the messenger.
Thank you for all that but I did not ask about the president or your voting history. Web sites can be any thing they want. Could not any one with a Christian web site post some testimonies. Could not AM do the same? And I do not watch him. Infact I do not watch any TV preacher. I am just asking questions about AM that is all. To Question is to Grow
I don't know,man.This stuff seems kinda of trivial to me,but if it means that much to you,my advice is to move on.Don't worry about it.If you don't like the church find another.That's what I'd do.And the e-mail thing,they have stated on the broadcast that they are a small church with a very small staff,and just don't have the staff,or time to take e-mails along with the calls,and letters.The whole 2nd half of the hour is a q/a portion,which is alot more than I can say for others.
listen murray is not on the air to tell his testimony. He is reading God's testimony chapter by chapter verse by verse. focus on God brother. I don't put my faith in murray but he is a true and better teachers than the mainstream because of the simplicity of the way he reads the word
If you go to the web site you can not find any thing about the man or the church. I am just asking questions. There is no harm in asking questions. Do you know any of aswers to my questions I ask about A.M.?
@jlmshane do you think that aprt from murray would you come to the same concluison as him i doubt it im a christian and am willing to speak more on the matter with you God Bless
@tonyteb hey, u know it's up to us to delve into the word. Not everyone has eyes to see and ears to hear. My grandfather believes in the rapture. I have had conversations with him trying to get him to see and hear it form the word. He has listened to one verse revolving revs for so many years, its sad. But that is what the millennium is for. I believe I would have came to the same conclusion if I had not found Murray. I have learned to question everything I hear. would like totalktoutoo
@jlmshane i personally know quite a few murray followers some of wich are in my own family and you all say the same thing and use his exact words thats scarry to me
@tonyteb i said the same thing earlier to some one else on eyes to see and ears to hear, and that's just it. If one believes in Christ, then one must believe the whole word and stay away from the traditions of men. As a child I grew up mostly baptist, but now I am just a Christian. I said to myself, self... God is not catholic, Mormon, baptist, or any denomination so why should I be one of those u know? Christianity is not a religion it's a reality
Im glad to see you are interested in finding the Truth. However looking to Man for answers is our big mistake, mine too.The bible is Gods message to us, and if you would spend time there,with him,you would no longer be concerned with such silly reasoning.There is logical answers to all of your questions, I personally would like to help you. I've spent 15yrs looking for the same questions you ask.They deserve to be answersed and they can.One at a time with the help from our Father.
As far as Cain is concerned, he is not in Adam's geneology, because he is not Adam's son. So, we do know. In the Hebrew it is very clear. You might want to open the Bible and actually read it.
You are out of order, because you haven't taken the time to study for yourself. You listen to others and recite their words.
Cain has his own Geneology Bill. You might want to actually read for once. I can quote all day, but read with understanding. And you can actually teach others
First off Bill you are not Jesus, so please do not say "What does Jesus do...simple quote scriptures, I do know less! "
Jesus doesn't "Quote Scripture" Jesus Fulfilled Scripture and when he speaks, he teaches.He doesn't merely recite lines. He knows what he is saying, unlike you.
You have a lot to say about other peoples teaching. I asked a simple question and you just left a bible verse? I ask you to elaborate and nothing. If you do not know. Fine. I was wondering why Cain is not in Adam's geneology? It's a simple question. I look forward to hearing from you.
You asked why I just gave a Bible verse look at the story in Matt 4:1-11 Here Jesus is Tempted by Satan. What does Jesus do...simple quote scriptures, I do know less!
@lovinglifewillie because the devil had sex with adam and eve right but have you read the bible adam knew his wife and she bare cain not the serpent knew eve and she bare cain i think murray reads to many books outside the bible and trys to make it fit the bible that story is in the book of philip i belive a noninspired book what you belive has more to do with greek mythology than a biblical worldveiw and you only take that position because of murray not from the spirt guiding you im sure
Luke,3:38 - Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God. So where is Cain? My question was quite simple: Why is Cain not listed in Adam's geneology? He is not listed in Luke or Genisis or Mathew. Do you know why?
Not all people are listed in geneologys. No one know why Cain was left out. It is not important. And if you want to talk about geneologys look at 1 Chr 1:28 and 1 Chr 2:2 it is out of order! GOD choose to leave out Cain for some reason we do do not know.
@BillLykken:On the contrary.Knowing y Cayin is NOT in Adam's geneology & the True Garden/Eden story=VERY important.To apathetically dismiss random Scriptural facts displays incredible ignorance as well as danger in your st8ment.All God's Word's are not idle my friend,& the facts r listed 4 specific & very imporatant reasons if we r 2 understand & righfully divide the Word in & of Truth.LLwillie is absolutely correct in his Scriptural assessment.Cayin=satan's literal flesh&spirit son Biblically.
@BillLykken:Cain=left out of Adams geneol cuz he was NOT adams son.Theres NO literal "apple" nor "snake" in the Genesis/Eden account;this=a fairy tale l8r concocted by mens silly little fable-traditions.Its FRUIT as in "fruits of ur labors/hands/works/mind or "know them by their FRUIT" or WHAT THEY SAY & DO.Snake=SERPENT which=NOT lit snake but describes attributes of attitude/personality/spirituality:Satan=a "serpent"... (cont'd)-
@BillLykken:(contd-)Hebr Manuscripts st8 emphatically that satan BEGUILED(WHOLLY SEDUCED)Eve&Adam sexually,enotionally,physically,spiritually; NOT "ate a stupid apple".Y would they cover their PRIVATES (NOT their mouths) w/ FIG leaves if they ate apple & y would loving God punish sum1 4 this?He wouldnt!Cain=satans son,Abel=Adams;Cain murdered (NOT "killed!") Abel cuz he was the unholy no-good genetic seed of devil.C how fables twist Gods Word?Satans MAIN M.O., & as he did 2 Christ in wilderness.
@BillLykken:(contd-)Garden/Eden: (Hebr): TreeOfLife=Christ; TreeOfKnowledgeOfGood&Evil=satan.Heb word 4 "tree" there=as in ur torso="trunk,"arms/legs="limbs" as we say colloquially 2day.We're made in God&Angels image, so "Burning Bush"=God has a torso,limbs,head,hands just like we do altho He is NOT flesh-matter as we but spiritual matter, a "Consuming Fire,"as like the angels our new bodies will be in the millenium.satan seduced eve&adam producing cain/abel fr 2 diff fathers which=medical truth
I can't stand it any longer I will give it a shot! The reason why Cains geneology is not listed in Adams is. Because he was not of the same father! Jesus made quite clearly in the parable of the sower who Cain's father is! . And it was no literal apple that was eaten. But he (that notty serpent) did partake of the fruit! It doesn't take a Kenite to figure out the truth when you study it in it's original language! Can't be done in any bible version but the good Ol'e KJV!!
@utubernaut oh you know origanal hebrew and greek too Πολυμερῶς καὶ πολυτρόπως πάλαι ὁ θεὸς λαλήσας τοῖς πατράσιν ἐν τοῖς προφήταις and second kjv is not the origanal language as im sure you know what about the 1599 geneva bible wich was translated from the textus receptus as the kjv was oh only what arnold says is true version you belive why does he qoute kjv ezikiel 13 vs 24 an 25 read it
@lovinglifewillie i know why hes not and not because hes the devils son wich is idiotic in the highest degree have you ever met a hybryd i mean this is just pure nonsence you cant even answer why jesus said this generation shall not pass away you guys take it so far out of context to more than 2000 years latter the generation of the fig tree wich you think is isreal but in luke it says fig tree and all the trees and in matt jesus curses the fig tree never to bare fruit again murray speaks/mans
We Christians have the right to believe in what ever we wish. I have been born and live in the USA. I have the right of freedom of religian and freedom of speach.
Elmo...do you even know what you are saying? The word moron is Greek meaning: Unable to repent. Although I do see your level of understanding life, I would not call you a moron. At least not at this point.
What seems to be quite trivial, is the fact that all christians say the same thing...the other one is wrong......unfortunatley for all of us... politics destroyed any word of any god before it even past the 3rd century...no one knows and being righteous to others in any way about your faith is silly... if christ (yeshuah) were to see what has become of all his followers....he would hang his head in shame
Murray answer all these questions...maybe u should listen to a lecture or two....or open your bible....hope that helps. AM has helped me profit, due to accurate prophecy! I'm really liking the coming silver market, yea I got a decade head start, but not too late!
Ever heard of LIARS? It doesn't matter what YOU say, i say, or what (you think) Pastor Murray says. Only the humble, who'll do "their own" homework without listening to YOU, ME or some know-it-all will come to understand the truth if their intentions are true.
Everything you claim he, or any other supposed preacher, should offer up is silly and ALWAYS subject to ones ability to get to the truth.. .in todays world is hard. You need to wake up, its not as simple as you simpletons would think.
I didn't say a thing about asking questions...please stick to what i was responding to, the topic, and then you can grow faster rather than ignoring the argument... keep digging, at least you're headed in the right direction, which you're aeon's ahead of the rest.
I am wondering do you listen to Pastor Murray? Do you get your Bible out and your strongs concordance and check out verse by verse-word by word. Why spend this time questioning the word of God?Do you pray about your questions?If you have problems of understanding you should take them to the Lord.Why do you feel it to be your duty to question the word of God and a Man whom teaches the word so truthfully?Who's side are you on?Do you believe in God?
If one's personal history, background, or academic pedigree are the qualifications of a spirtual man or teacher, then placing your faith in these things are most certainly going to bring you disappointment. These are fleshy and earthly (falable) attributes. That's NOT where faith is to be placed, i.e., man!
Christ had no formal teaching; He was poor and His background was unknown. Yet at 12 years old, He preached in the synagogues and amazed the "educated" Priests.
Would you discount Christ because He lacked the education and background you are insisting on? The apostles, as well, were not the type of men that would meet your standards of pedigree. Fortunately, no man's pedigree can ever suffice...lest we be mislead.
Therefore, how do we know who should teach us? Who do we trust? We are constantly warned that MANY false prophets will come in His name. Should we watch their actions; their "miracles"; their charisma? All these things can be deceptive and misleading.
Matt 7:21-23 did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Matt 7:16 "By their fruit you will know them." Fruit? Doesn't that mean good deeds and Christ-like attributes? Not according to Matt 7:21-23!!
There are PLENTY of kind, gently, humble people...Dhali Lama, Popes, Pastors, etc that may "act" Christ-like but can easily mislead. Even Satan himself will perform miracles and signs to mislead.
FRUIT is not the outwardly actions of men. FRUIT is the TRUTH of God. Truth from the Word, verified by the Word.
1 John 4:1-6 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world....This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."
The Spirit of truth is that which is in the heart of a man. Don't confuse the fruit (truth) of the Spirit, with the outwarldy attributes of man. The Spirit is INSIDE the heart...not on the OUTSIDE in the flesh!
@BillLykken: You are absolutely RIGHT!! Follow NO man! Murray, too, says this of himself. But too many people deny finding the truth at the expense of their loyalty to their church or pastor.
Are we fallible? You bet!! But I will say this about Murray...he TEACHES verse by verse. He's not a "motivational preacher" that tries to make you feel good, or increase his donations, or to sell his books.
He ruffles alot feathers. But answers lot of questions we all have.
@tonyteb There are thousands of preachers that have their own style and methods of teaching the Word. I'm less concerned with the method than I am with the MESSAGE. I prefer a person to teach verse by verse. In doing so, the most difficult portions of the bible are discussed. Many churches/pastors dont address the entire bible. They focus on the same regurgitated, topical verses...i.e. tithing, baptism, salvation, rapture, and end times, etc. At least Murray touches on the tough stuff.
@Floormat11 murray is also redudent in all things lead to antichrist kenites and so on he does not touch on thigs of difficulty because he distorts the context to mak a pretext
@tonyteb If you have a problem with Murray, then dont watch him. Can you explain the more difficult verses that seem to go undiscussed by the mainstream churches? All I hear from you is criticism of his methods, context, pretext...etc. If YOU have all the answers, then don your sackcloth and sandals, gird your loins, and preach it brother. I am not going to get into a "my pastor is better than your pastor" argument. If you have the solutions, state them!
@Floormat11 because i have a problem with him means i cant watch him ? you should also be critical of his methods. should you not decern ? i dont have all the answers friend im just a laymen. what difficult verses would you like to discuss mayby we can help eachother and please if you like adress the generation that jesus spoke of
@tonyteb Of course you are free to watch whom ever you want. Are you as critical of all denominations as you are of Murray? Or is YOUR way the only way, truth, and life? I dont defend Murray on every point he makes--nor do I claim to have all the answers. We aren't born or saved with all the answers! We go from baby food to solid food...we spiritually mature. Sometimes a baby Christian will not see things the same as a mature Christian. Does that make one wrong and the other right?
@Floormat11 also i watch him because a couple of people in my family are decived by him they tell me dont wory ill come to the other side of the gulf to save you
@Floormat11:RIGHT U R, BROTHER."But I will say this about Murray...he TEACHES verse by verse. He's not a "motivational preacher" that tries to make you feel good, or increase his donations, or to sell his books.He ruffles alot feathers. But answers lot of questions we all have" CHRIST TOO RUFFLED MANY FEATHERS IN HIS DAY & STILL DOES TO THIS DAY!Christ Himself said in KJV Mat 24,Lu 21 =He returns & gathers we @ 777 (LAST Seal,Trump,Vial) AFT "666" or anti-c come 1st claimg 2 b christ come 2 fly
To judge is foolish! If you dont have a standard by which to judge the truth, YOU ARE A FOOL to do so. You're like a leaf in the wind blowing whichever way the winf blows strongest.
A word to the wise brother. Do more homework and less jawwing until you have a clue what you're talking about. ..
Christianity has nothing to do about following men. Those who are lead by the holy spirit have the gift of discernment. If one cant discern without judgement they are lacking. Honestly I think its a joke when someone says I have a degree in preaching and so on focuss on the word not individuals
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Pastor Murray is not trying to hide anything, you sound just like Matt Slick. You are stuck on trivial issues.
Fullpattern 1 month ago
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Fullpattern 1 month ago
Read the Bible man thats what its all about, not our story, the evidince is in the education you recieve from the WORD! It is not about PM, I wasted 5 minutes on you you clown, ill never get those 5 minutes back! AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!
70CarStall 2 months ago
@70CarStall Please take a look at three other videos of mine to answer your question of me. "Exegesis of the Bible" and Bibles and Tools"
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BillLykken 2 months ago
AM owns his channel time..He isnt paid to be on some one elses time.. You can't compare him to someone like joel olsteen or joyce meyer is paid to be on tv...AM buys his time...Just sayn..His beliefs are shared by many that have been passed down from generations and many teach as he does around the world. I like AM but I also know no one is 100% corrrect in all there teachings. All people make mistakes as well..his predictions in his early days was his.
hawkinsd 3 months ago
@hawkinsd I am just asking questions that is all. And PLEASE note I make no point of money or other people in my video.
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BillLykken 3 months ago
@BillLykken I know and that is why i said..'just sayn'......My main point was to say he didnt make this belief up there are many who teach this...and to say AM has made mistakes..he is just a man. Very knowledgeable man though..Like or hate him. I hope my comment that his doctrine wasnt made up by him helps others"question to grow" is all :)
hawkinsd 3 months ago
I have watched Arnold Murray for a couple of years. I don't need to know where he went to school or much else about him. I don't agree with everything he teaches but I do agree with a great deal of it. I have learned in life that never to place my faith in things human. People are falible. God isn't. If we can remember to love God and one another it will lead us to where we are supposed to go in this life.
cherokid 4 months ago
@cherokid I am simplely asking questions, nothing more. Please take a look at my other vidoes on my channel.
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BillLykken 4 months ago
@BillLykken So if these questions are so relevant to you, then How will they help you to grow?
Oneofthekings86 6 months ago
@Oneofthekings86 How can it help me to grow? So that I can better understand the person. I post my Testimony here, people know my past. I posted how I study the Bible, now people know how I do that. I have stated that I have no college edu. People have stoped listening to me on that point alone, and I am OK with that. People should ask questions. It keeps us ALL in check. Think about it!!!
BillLykken 6 months ago
@BillLykken Fair enough I dont see how it would help me grow. He teaches the word of God better than any pastor I have heard so far, therefore knowing his testimony, college background, and why he doesnt have an "email, does not bother me. Being that I will assume and only assume being u recommended ministerfortson, carm, conquer2day,and "google. You believe that he is a false teacher. That is the reason I believe that a person would want all those things. So am I right or not.
Oneofthekings86 6 months ago
"to question is to grow" you won't get any argument about that statement from me.To ask the right QUESTIONS ah now that's the trick.To add the right questions for you my not be the right questions for ether's.My self i have found a lot of the answers "not all" by reading the Bible and yes watching A.M. Is A.M, a prophet my opinion there are no prophets around today.He is an exceptional teacher.But every one has to come to GOD in the way that's best for the individual. With GOD'S help
MrJohnf5 7 months ago
@MrJohnf5 Have you asked A.M. the questions I have asked in this video? Have you Googled his name like I asked you? There are 3 channels here on YouTube I want you to go to. 1) ministerfortson. He left a comment a few down take a look at his site. 2) CARMVideos they have some videos on A.M. 3) is Conquer2day you will like his videos on A.M.
BillLykken 7 months ago
@BillLykken i did google A.M. no more than name calling and opinions by people with a vested interests and it's Shirley not about saving your soul."$" the first vids same thing if you Liston closely "he consulted with 2 of his colligs" not the book and the serpents seed has nothing at all to do with Ham. and carm videos "DO YOU LISTON TO THIS GUY" the 3rd interesting but READ IT FOR YOUR SELF look up some words with a stongs 1 why is cane not mentioned in Adams blood line? johnf5@sonic.net
MrJohnf5 7 months ago
@BillLykken i gave you my email not enough space to carry on intelligent debate trust me just watch the first parts like 1- 4 or five of Shepard chapel genesis take a king James & a Strongs concordance READ IT FOR YOUR SELF LOOK THE WORDS UP FOR YOUR SELF then make your own mind up.20 + years of watching A.M. i understand a lot more of it maybe it's right or maybe not but i have to tell you the bible makes a hole lot more sense to me now and the Bible..well it is pretty cool "keep looking"
MrJohnf5 7 months ago
this is just so sad what is your problem is it that he teaches and doesn't beg for money and maybe is pointing people the right direction like to think, research, and dig into the Bible fore the answers or should people just blindly follow most the ether churches even when they teach contrary to what is in the Bible he seem to be making a lot of churches angry HMMMM. wonder why? my suggestion would be CHECK IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF just a thought.
MrJohnf5 7 months ago
@MrJohnf5 I have never made a commet on A.M. asking for money. As for digging in to the Bible take a look at my two vidoes called "Bible and Tools" I did check out A.M. Have you???? Google his name and see what you find.
I am just asking Questions.....To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 7 months ago
You can look at the videos I posted and see that the SC cult members never want to use the Bible to back what they say. All they can talk about is the false info that Murray gave them about the Rapture. They are rude and not Christ like at all. They refuse to pick up a Bible and they don't care about teaching others, just defending Satan's servant Murray.
ministerfortson 7 months ago
@ministerfortson I agree. I have recived many angry postings on this video. You do great work with your videos, keep up the great work. And remember...
To Question is to Grow.
BillLykken 7 months ago
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You guys are a trip. I've been with Arnold Murray since day one and I've never heard him teach anything nothing the word of God teaches me not Arnold Murray. We read the bible. Thanks be to our heavenly father for truth and love through his son our Lord and savior. Come on people get with Gods word or be forever cast out!.
TheFarleyGordon 7 months ago
Interesting but it's not where the rubber meets the road. Humans are organic beings. Unfortunately not all people have the same intellect.
"Be the change you want to see in the world." A quote by Gandhi
TheFarleyGordon 7 months ago
@TheFarleyGordon I am just asking questions, nothing more.
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BillLykken 7 months ago
PS lol the way your mouth moves on your video lolz it looks like one of those old bad japanese films lolz
TrinketStarFire 8 months ago
@TrinketStarFire I know that I just have DSL I have better things to spend my money on then High Speed Internet. What I have is fine for me. I have asked in my other vidoes if there is a software I can buy to fix that problem.
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BillLykken 8 months ago
Get your facts straight BEFORE you go blasting someone for something they did.
Redo your homework. Jim and Tammy Baker ? Dude lolz, your joking right ? There is no comparison. Mr Murray has never duped anyone out of anything, least of all create a building scam/retirement center, or crystal cathedral. Get your facts straight. Hate all you want. Mr Murray lives under the blood. Not just the water.
TrinketStarFire 8 months ago
@TrinketStarFire As for the Jim Bakker thing. I was just pointing out that AFTER Jim got out of jail he (Jim) stated that he (Jim) did not have any Bible education and that he (Jim) was wrong about what he (Jim) said and did on the show. I am just asking what is A.M. education is that is all.
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BillLykken 8 months ago
Get your facts straight BEFORE you go blasting someone for something they did.
Redo your homework.
TrinketStarFire 8 months ago
@TrinketStarFire I did my homework. Try to find any info / bio on Arnold Murray, see what you find.
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BillLykken 8 months ago
@jimu57: That's easy. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to tell him he has no email address and to ask him where he went to college.
jvaughn1366 10 months ago
I am amazed at all the man worship there is forMurray! I'm so glad that I came out of that Babylon of deadly poison! Virtually EVERYTHING you see written by a SC student is vile hatred! They are so smart and know everything, not seeing that they are blind, wretched and naked, being taught that knowledge is the key to being pleasing to the Father! Grace is poured out at the WILL of the Father, not because you know who the father of Cain is or what it means to uncover your fathers nakedness!
Lakeside54321 10 months ago
With some of your phrasing in your questions and your topics, you seem very much to be LDS. Why do you even want questions answered from Arnold Murray? If you dont like him, dont watch him. I personally think he is a very good Bible teacher. He doesnt beg money like other evangelists and you will not find fault in any of his teaching. And as far as his personal life, that really is none of your business.
jimu57 10 months ago
@jimu57 I have my testimony on my channel, take a look. I dont watch him. I am just trying to ask questions. I asked the same questions to my pastor. The questions are harmless. Have you asked A.M. these questions?
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BillLykken 10 months ago
@jimu57 You said "you will not find fault in any of his teaching" I studied with this man for many years. There are MANY faults with his teaching! One example, to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is for one of the "Elect" to refuse to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them when they are delivered up! Oh my goodness there is absolutely not a Shred of biblical evidence for that! For years, he stated that this was his opinion... but for the last many years, he says it like it is a written fact.
Lakeside54321 10 months ago
@Lakeside54321 so..... you tell me what blaspheme the holy spirit means.
jimu57 10 months ago
Where did you go to COLLEGE? also please post and proof where you get that Pastor murray said in 1984 the world would end in 1984.
bryanwilliamsjr 11 months ago
@bryanwilliamsjr First off I never make any point of A.M. and 1984. And as for College I never did go to college. BUT I am willing to state that here and now, How about A.M.? I am just asking questions, there is nothing wrong with asking questions.
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BillLykken 11 months ago
If we know the word well enough we should be able to find error within the teaching.
mephibosheth 1 year ago
Can any1 of u cRapture believers tell us y u dont ever read nor quote 2 Thess 2, Matt 24, Lu 21, Mk 13, Ez 13 KJV?!All u do=parrot what sum cRapt THEORIST says ABOUT THE WORD ITSELF,CHANGING IT TO FIT THEIR ERRONEUS "VAIN IMAGINATIONS OF MEN."But they quote 1 Thess 4 all day long when its subj="where the dead r,"NOT that He comes 1st to "fly" us away (end of Ez 13: GOD st8s "I'm against those (false teachers) who teach my ppl to FLY to save their souls!"the NIV has CHANGED WORD "FLY" TO "BIRDS!"
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 In this video I have never mentioned the rapture or any other teachers. I am just asking questions.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
Jesus didn't go to college! He was not ordained by anyone. I have a problem with Arnold Murry because he thinks that we are living in the tribulation period right now.
He believes that the rapture has al ready taken place. How can that be when the church is STILL HERE?
MonaSallie 1 year ago
@MonaSallie Jesus was a Rabbi Mark 9:2-6 Jesus was God John 10:30 Acts 20:28
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BillLykken 1 year ago
@BillLykken murray is way off people think that with him there finding a new truth they never heard he already decived my uncle and aunt
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb:again,u r false witness/prophet/liar,whether in ignorance,deceit,deliber8,or blinded by God Himself.2 Thess 2=Gods Own Words:"I will send them Strong delusion that they should believe the LIE"),it does not matter.A lie = a lie = a lie.The Word says we gather back to He @ His return ("777") AFT the anti-c coming 1st claiming 2 b christ come to "fly" us all away.THEN AFT the TRUE Christ comes to "DESTROY THE WICKED ONE (& his literal AWA spiritual wicked followers/seed/children)=2 Thess 2
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 prove i lie second that fly away stuff dont matter to me because i am a partial preterist and dont belive in the rapture but nice try and mark my words you will be waiting for a "antichrist" for a long time and you will never see him in the way that murray teaches you say i lie thats funny considering you listen to arnold murray the master at taking things out of imediate and historical context ie this generation not when isreal became a nation remeber in matt THE LORD curse the
tonyteb 1 year ago
@ballistix01 never to bear fruit again God says the first man adam he says no it says the one from above is above all but he says you were above too then it seems that argument for Christ is invaild jesus said some of you standing here will not taste death till you see the son of man comming in great power and glory u think there are people 2000 years old walking around
tonyteb 1 year ago
@MonaSallie....wow you obviously haven't watched Pastor Murray, He has NEVER said the rapture has taken place....He don't even teach that ignorant doctrine
cbrick06 1 year ago
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@MonaSallie: i agree ur 1st assertion about "doctor8s acclaimed of men."However, u tell a falsehood when u say AM said those things because thats quite simply NOT true.He says [accordg 2 KJV!] we r in the 5th ["555"] leadg up to the 1st trib of 2 ["666"] in KJV, or #1: trib of anti-c come 1st claimg to b Christ to fly his ppl out; THEN the True Christ returns AFT @ 7th ["777"] to "DESTROY THE WICKED ONE BY BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING [2 THESS 2,OR HAVENT U READ IT,LISTENg 2 OTHER "MEN & WOMEN?!"?!
ballistix01 1 year ago
@MonaSallie:PLS stop parroting falsehoods.AM NEVER has st8d ANY of what U said he said!He has st8d we r living in 555 (5th seal,trump,vial)=pre-trib era rapidly approach'g d trib period accordg 2 all d prophecies rapidly being fulfilled in our lifetimes(com'g trib=666=satan coming claimg 2 b Christ come 2 fly u all away!),THEN AFT our True Lord returns 2 us @ 777=last/7th seal,trump,vial 2 destroy the works of devil w/ Brightness of His Coming(KJV 2 Thess 2,Mat 24,Lu 21,etc).Ez13:20 KJV=NO "fly"
ballistix01 1 year ago
@MonaSallie:Also again,AM has NEVER st8d cRapture's already occurred!Where do u get this?!R u listeng 2 other idjits slander AM & thusly Gods own Word as a result?!4 Gods Word=what AM teaches,chptr by chptr,vrs by vrs,precept upon precept,w complete consider'n of orig Hebr word mean'gs,transl8ions,transliter8ions.He RARELY interjects his own opin EXCEPT evry 1ce in blue now/then when he will plainly,openly TELL U its his BIBLICALLY educ8d 1(60+ yrs study).4 most part/99% he sticks 2 accur8 WORD
ballistix01 1 year ago
Im just helping you grow. All you have to do is read a King James Bible . Start from the beginning and continue reading. I live in a spainish speaking country and cant read spainish. I was starving to read english and somebody gave me the Bible in english. First time I read it at 59 years old. It will answer all your Questions Enjoy
bernie018 1 year ago
@bernie018 First off I have read the Bible from cover to cover over 12 times already. Second I do not have questions about the Bible I have questions for A.M. I am asking question for , at , too, and of A.M.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
follow the money who is paying you '? you cant get fruit from a thorn bush. If i read the KJB to my son word by word and explain it to him that GOD wrote the bible . Where does the false teaching come in ? Where do you get your salary?
bernie018 1 year ago
@bernie018 I am not asking for any money. I do not point out any money that A.M. is making. I am just asking questions that is all, there is nothing wrong with that.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
@bernie018 its easy to take things out of context. as murray does so well
tonyteb 1 year ago
By the way, how is YOUR PAST looking about now? Men are human, they fall, they backslide. I am not saying Murray has, I dont know - dont care. BUT if he has anything offensive in his past, I feel sure he has repented of it. He knows a lot of things. He has either studied on his own, or been schooled. What is your problem?
Tommit9 1 year ago
@Tommit9 I have posted my Testimony on this channel, take a look.
I am just asking questions. There is no harm in doing so.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
Does he HAVE to explain his past? Look at King David......... DUH!
Tommit9 1 year ago
@Tommit9 I am just asking questions nothing more. To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 1 year ago
I believe Pastor Murry was called by God which is better than any seminary or college learning. He, not like most pastors, do not take his living or money, from his church. As the Savior said, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." I went to a church with many false teachings that I didn't know about and through Pastor Murry, God has blessed me with the truth and I know Pastor Murry is a disciple of Christ, by his faith and love for Heavenly Father and the Savior and the Holy Ghost.
msexie 1 year ago
@msexie just cause you belive he was dosent mean he was i dont find anything special that i have not heard before
tonyteb 1 year ago
In essence,Truth;U do not have ?'s for AM.U question the Word,as written 2 mankind, fr the orig Hebr,chaldean,aramaic(OT)& Septuagint,as well as greek manuscripts(NT covenant fulfillment) fr KJV. U need to purchase a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance & learn to use it (looks hard at first, but isnt, its easy) with a KJV or Companion KJV Bible. Then study along w/ AM, & you'll see he speaks the Word in Truth as Abba Adonai EliYahveh / Yehashuah HaMashiach intended, & not false churchianity folklore
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 I have ALL of those things you listed. I ALSO have a Interlinear Bible, I have a Thompson Chain in the 1611 KJV.
I am just asking questions there is not harm in asking questions
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BillLykken 1 year ago
@BillLykken: Well then, what is it you are questioning exactly? Are your questions not for (& of-) the Word?, - & AM simply teaches it as was written. Then what's exactly the problem you have here? The Word is the Word, despite ANY nor ALL men's pasts nor actions, for none of we are perfect. It's THE MESSAGE, NOT THE MESSENGER (except in the case of Christ, for they are one in the same). AM simply teaches the Word in Truth as written w/o deviations, fables/fairy-tales, nor traditions of men.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 nonsence when jesus said this generation why does he say no that generation it was written this generation does he not belive Gods word i guess not cus he changes the historical context to make it the generation of the fig tree wich is also taken out of context luke say fig tree and all the trees in matt jesus curses the fig tree to never bear fruit again and finally isreal is the olive tree
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb well, we can either take "this generation" literally (and subscribe to preterism) or we can take "this generation" to mean the nation/race of Israel. Far greater men than you and I have been debating this and every other biblical passage for far longer than you or I. Biblical disagreement is the reason we have so many denominations, theories, and teachings. Everybody believes they are right and any other discussion is accused of false teaching. Heard it before.
Floormat11 1 year ago
@Floormat11 though as im sure you know generation can not mean nation or race in context it would make no sence and i think we know why people try to make it other than its clear referance so i do subscribe to a partial preterist interpitation thats not a dividing issue nor is it something i would say someone is a false teacher because of but when a man like murray straight out lies thats a problem i have people in my own family who follow him and think only there going to heaven cuz they
tonyteb 1 year ago
@Floormat11 the key of david cus they know the antichrist comes first and like i told them they will never see the antichrist in the way they describe. because its not biblical i know what an antichrist is because i read the bible 1st jn not someones going beyond what is written. Jesus also said some of you standing here will not taste death till you see the son of man coming with power and his angels a verse used by athiest to show jesus was wrong i dont belive that he was wrong.
tonyteb 1 year ago
@ballistix01 i hate when people put on the same level that when you ? murray your really ? GOD himself and that is just plain stupidity i watched arnold murray for years friend and the gut so plainly takes things out of context so often i find it amazing that anyone with the ability to read can not see he takes no consideration for context i mean i dont understand whats so special about that people think cuz they got a strongs the can read greek hebrew and arimaic context defines words
tonyteb 1 year ago
OF COURSE AM's controversial; because the WORD ITSELF IS controversial; always has been,& is now as wel;& will continue up until the "end: of this earth age; but NOT forever, as God Himself will eventually clear ALL air of doubt & skepticism. Christ's own Word;s cause dissention, as obvious today as it was then, & on back towards "the beginning." Ppls of the world will often hate His Words, unless some perhaps "come around" of own accord or r "Touched" but IN THEIR OWN WALK & TIME/CLOCK-FRAME.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 I am not questioning the controvery I am just asking questions. Nothing more. There is no harm in asking question.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
lmho if you want to know get you but up and go ask him then. sound like to me your bored, if you got time on your hands like this you should do more reading of the word and less gum flapping.. you called your self a Christ man but i tell you now it dose not matter if you were a harlot before you started preaching or a murderer such as Moses . once forgiven by God you can do His will. Stop your whining . you big baby
yhvhshamah 1 year ago
@yhvhshamah I am just asking questions. There is now harm in doing so. I do not watch any TV preacher. I do read the Bible daily, see my other videos. You ask about the past. OK I have posted my Testimony on my channel take a look. And as for "forgivness" A.M. has not hurt me I am just asking questions.
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BillLykken 1 year ago
So, you would reject Moses as a leader when you found out he murdered an Egyptian. You would spearhead a movement against the apostle Paul once you discovered he had had Christians killed and then changed his name! *You* could do a lot of damage trying to predict WHICH preacher, according to their backgrounds, MIGHT come to give the church a black eye. God's advice to you is this "By their fruits ye shall know them." Not by their history or their salvation story!
DeconPossessed 1 year ago
@DeconPossessed NO NO NO I just want to know the Testimony of the people I listen to. And as for their past...PLEASE..... Have you seen my testimony vids? Believe me I have danced with the devil myself. Please take a look at my testimony videos and you will know where I came from. To Question is to Grow! Acts 25:1 - 26:32
BillLykken 1 year ago
@BillLykken well, that's fair enough
DeconPossessed 1 year ago
every church i have gone to seems to be lacking something, most pastors won't even answer those question, don't want tobe bothered with it.. but then we now have a president that spends millions to hide his so called history.. i'll trust this pastor over the president just on his mirits alone, mirits of the president prove his a lier. that's why i didn't vote for him or j mccain , but wrote in my choice r.paul. because i did look into it. a that's all i can do and make a choice
banzaimotorcross 1 year ago
@banzaimotorcross
Thank you for all that but I did not ask about the president or your voting history. Web sites can be any thing they want. Could not any one with a Christian web site post some testimonies. Could not AM do the same? And I do not watch him. Infact I do not watch any TV preacher. I am just asking questions about AM that is all. To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 1 year ago
@BillLykken: How about stop worrying about AM's background, that's the stuff for the devil's doubt playground. It is the WORD you should be concerned with as a Christian. Then, if so, watch & study with AM. It will tell you all you need to know about where he stands in relation to teaching, "rightfully dividing" the Word in Truth, Honesty, & Integrity. The Message, NOT the messenger.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@banzaimotorcross
Thank you for all that but I did not ask about the president or your voting history. Web sites can be any thing they want. Could not any one with a Christian web site post some testimonies. Could not AM do the same? And I do not watch him. Infact I do not watch any TV preacher. I am just asking questions about AM that is all. To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 1 year ago
I don't know,man.This stuff seems kinda of trivial to me,but if it means that much to you,my advice is to move on.Don't worry about it.If you don't like the church find another.That's what I'd do.And the e-mail thing,they have stated on the broadcast that they are a small church with a very small staff,and just don't have the staff,or time to take e-mails along with the calls,and letters.The whole 2nd half of the hour is a q/a portion,which is alot more than I can say for others.
dynkblade 1 year ago
His statement of faith is on the church website.
dynkblade 1 year ago
@dynkblade
Thank you yes I know. That is NOT in question. I make that point in my video. I ask other questions that I what to know.
And once again I say "To Question is to Grow"
BillLykken 1 year ago
Great vid
BloodStainedLamb 1 year ago
listen murray is not on the air to tell his testimony. He is reading God's testimony chapter by chapter verse by verse. focus on God brother. I don't put my faith in murray but he is a true and better teachers than the mainstream because of the simplicity of the way he reads the word
jlmshane 1 year ago 5
@jlmshane
If you go to the web site you can not find any thing about the man or the church. I am just asking questions. There is no harm in asking questions. Do you know any of aswers to my questions I ask about A.M.?
To Question is to Grow!
BillLykken 1 year ago
@jlmshane do you think that aprt from murray would you come to the same concluison as him i doubt it im a christian and am willing to speak more on the matter with you God Bless
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb hey, u know it's up to us to delve into the word. Not everyone has eyes to see and ears to hear. My grandfather believes in the rapture. I have had conversations with him trying to get him to see and hear it form the word. He has listened to one verse revolving revs for so many years, its sad. But that is what the millennium is for. I believe I would have came to the same conclusion if I had not found Murray. I have learned to question everything I hear. would like totalktoutoo
jlmshane 5 months ago
@jlmshane i personally know quite a few murray followers some of wich are in my own family and you all say the same thing and use his exact words thats scarry to me
tonyteb 5 months ago
@tonyteb what words????
jlmshane 5 months ago
@tonyteb i must assume you don't mean God's words
jlmshane 5 months ago
@jlmshane revolving revs not everyone has eyes to see and ears to hear not Gods word
tonyteb 5 months ago
@tonyteb i said the same thing earlier to some one else on eyes to see and ears to hear, and that's just it. If one believes in Christ, then one must believe the whole word and stay away from the traditions of men. As a child I grew up mostly baptist, but now I am just a Christian. I said to myself, self... God is not catholic, Mormon, baptist, or any denomination so why should I be one of those u know? Christianity is not a religion it's a reality
jlmshane 5 months ago
@jlmshane i listen to murray for a long time i know the lingo he uses like the last words of your last post thats what he says
tonyteb 5 months ago
have you tried to call the toll free hotline and ask any of these questions? maybe get an email address from them?
8InsaneOnes 1 year ago
@8InsaneOnes
Yes I have all they do is tell you that we will write down the question and give it to A.M. He dose screen his letter. But then all TV personally do.
And remember To Question is to Grow.
BillLykken 1 year ago
@JewCommunist
To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 1 year ago
you make a good point; it's easy to find that information on Joel Osteen and aside from his obviously distorted message, we can see why it is so.
utfsal 2 years ago
And that is my over all point.
To Question is to Grow!
BillLykken 2 years ago
Im glad to see you are interested in finding the Truth. However looking to Man for answers is our big mistake, mine too.The bible is Gods message to us, and if you would spend time there,with him,you would no longer be concerned with such silly reasoning.There is logical answers to all of your questions, I personally would like to help you. I've spent 15yrs looking for the same questions you ask.They deserve to be answersed and they can.One at a time with the help from our Father.
misfitfirdis 2 years ago
Yawn.
BuddyTommo 2 years ago
I'm the real megaman2169!!! Get a life!!!
megaman2169 2 years ago
@megaman2169 no you are not this is a imposter profile
kingofkings681 2 years ago
Don't waste your time with this guy, he's one of those new world religion nuts. No knowledge,just repeating the lies thier told.
megaman2169 2 years ago
why are you persecuting megaman2160?
benalchemist74 2 years ago
As far as Cain is concerned, he is not in Adam's geneology, because he is not Adam's son. So, we do know. In the Hebrew it is very clear. You might want to open the Bible and actually read it.
You are out of order, because you haven't taken the time to study for yourself. You listen to others and recite their words.
Cain has his own Geneology Bill. You might want to actually read for once. I can quote all day, but read with understanding. And you can actually teach others
lovinglifewillie 2 years ago
Gen 4:1 Gen 4:9
BillLykken 2 years ago
Megaman2169 is a imposter profile. please remove his comment. he is impersonating me
megaman2160 2 years ago
@lovinglifewillie as you reiterate murrays so well
tonyteb 1 year ago
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First off Bill you are not Jesus, so please do not say "What does Jesus do...simple quote scriptures, I do know less! "
Jesus doesn't "Quote Scripture" Jesus Fulfilled Scripture and when he speaks, he teaches.He doesn't merely recite lines. He knows what he is saying, unlike you.
lovinglifewillie 2 years ago
You have a lot to say about other peoples teaching. I asked a simple question and you just left a bible verse? I ask you to elaborate and nothing. If you do not know. Fine. I was wondering why Cain is not in Adam's geneology? It's a simple question. I look forward to hearing from you.
lovinglifewillie 2 years ago
You asked why I just gave a Bible verse look at the story in Matt 4:1-11 Here Jesus is Tempted by Satan. What does Jesus do...simple quote scriptures, I do know less!
BillLykken 2 years ago
@lovinglifewillie because the devil had sex with adam and eve right but have you read the bible adam knew his wife and she bare cain not the serpent knew eve and she bare cain i think murray reads to many books outside the bible and trys to make it fit the bible that story is in the book of philip i belive a noninspired book what you belive has more to do with greek mythology than a biblical worldveiw and you only take that position because of murray not from the spirt guiding you im sure
tonyteb 1 year ago
Luke,3:38 - Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God. So where is Cain? My question was quite simple: Why is Cain not listed in Adam's geneology? He is not listed in Luke or Genisis or Mathew. Do you know why?
lovinglifewillie 2 years ago
Not all people are listed in geneologys. No one know why Cain was left out. It is not important. And if you want to talk about geneologys look at 1 Chr 1:28 and 1 Chr 2:2 it is out of order! GOD choose to leave out Cain for some reason we do do not know.
BillLykken 2 years ago
@BillLykken:On the contrary.Knowing y Cayin is NOT in Adam's geneology & the True Garden/Eden story=VERY important.To apathetically dismiss random Scriptural facts displays incredible ignorance as well as danger in your st8ment.All God's Word's are not idle my friend,& the facts r listed 4 specific & very imporatant reasons if we r 2 understand & righfully divide the Word in & of Truth.LLwillie is absolutely correct in his Scriptural assessment.Cayin=satan's literal flesh&spirit son Biblically.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@BillLykken:Cain=left out of Adams geneol cuz he was NOT adams son.Theres NO literal "apple" nor "snake" in the Genesis/Eden account;this=a fairy tale l8r concocted by mens silly little fable-traditions.Its FRUIT as in "fruits of ur labors/hands/works/mind or "know them by their FRUIT" or WHAT THEY SAY & DO.Snake=SERPENT which=NOT lit snake but describes attributes of attitude/personality/spirituality:Satan=a "serpent"... (cont'd)-
ballistix01 1 year ago
@BillLykken:(contd-)Hebr Manuscripts st8 emphatically that satan BEGUILED(WHOLLY SEDUCED)Eve&Adam sexually,enotionally,physically,spiritually; NOT "ate a stupid apple".Y would they cover their PRIVATES (NOT their mouths) w/ FIG leaves if they ate apple & y would loving God punish sum1 4 this?He wouldnt!Cain=satans son,Abel=Adams;Cain murdered (NOT "killed!") Abel cuz he was the unholy no-good genetic seed of devil.C how fables twist Gods Word?Satans MAIN M.O., & as he did 2 Christ in wilderness.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@BillLykken:(contd-)Garden/Eden: (Hebr): TreeOfLife=Christ; TreeOfKnowledgeOfGood&Evil=satan.Heb word 4 "tree" there=as in ur torso="trunk,"arms/legs="limbs" as we say colloquially 2day.We're made in God&Angels image, so "Burning Bush"=God has a torso,limbs,head,hands just like we do altho He is NOT flesh-matter as we but spiritual matter, a "Consuming Fire,"as like the angels our new bodies will be in the millenium.satan seduced eve&adam producing cain/abel fr 2 diff fathers which=medical truth
ballistix01 1 year ago
@BillLykken .. Cain was excluded from Adams lineage because Adam was not his father. Satan was.
jimu57 10 months ago
@jimu57 wisdom how rare
theelectkickenass 10 months ago
You seem to have all the answers. Why is Cain not listed in Adam's geneology?
lovinglifewillie 2 years ago
Luke 3:38
BillLykken 2 years ago
I can't stand it any longer I will give it a shot! The reason why Cains geneology is not listed in Adams is. Because he was not of the same father! Jesus made quite clearly in the parable of the sower who Cain's father is! . And it was no literal apple that was eaten. But he (that notty serpent) did partake of the fruit! It doesn't take a Kenite to figure out the truth when you study it in it's original language! Can't be done in any bible version but the good Ol'e KJV!!
utubernaut 1 year ago
@utubernaut oh you know origanal hebrew and greek too Πολυμερῶς καὶ πολυτρόπως πάλαι ὁ θεὸς λαλήσας τοῖς πατράσιν ἐν τοῖς προφήταις and second kjv is not the origanal language as im sure you know what about the 1599 geneva bible wich was translated from the textus receptus as the kjv was oh only what arnold says is true version you belive why does he qoute kjv ezikiel 13 vs 24 an 25 read it
tonyteb 1 year ago
@lovinglifewillie i know why hes not and not because hes the devils son wich is idiotic in the highest degree have you ever met a hybryd i mean this is just pure nonsence you cant even answer why jesus said this generation shall not pass away you guys take it so far out of context to more than 2000 years latter the generation of the fig tree wich you think is isreal but in luke it says fig tree and all the trees and in matt jesus curses the fig tree never to bare fruit again murray speaks/mans
tonyteb 1 year ago
christianity is for idiots and morons and superstitious fools, intellligent folks realize its literature, and boring literature at that.
ElmoLewiss 2 years ago
We Christians have the right to believe in what ever we wish. I have been born and live in the USA. I have the right of freedom of religian and freedom of speach.
You have a nice day.
BillLykken 2 years ago
correct, but you dont have the right to pass your superstitions off as fact and pass public policy based on jewish mythology.
ElmoLewiss 2 years ago
Elmo...do you even know what you are saying? The word moron is Greek meaning: Unable to repent. Although I do see your level of understanding life, I would not call you a moron. At least not at this point.
Hebrewtranz 2 years ago
Please no swaring on this channel
BillLykken 2 years ago
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xrv037 2 years ago
What seems to be quite trivial, is the fact that all christians say the same thing...the other one is wrong......unfortunatley for all of us... politics destroyed any word of any god before it even past the 3rd century...no one knows and being righteous to others in any way about your faith is silly... if christ (yeshuah) were to see what has become of all his followers....he would hang his head in shame
TheOriginofStorms 2 years ago
Murray answer all these questions...maybe u should listen to a lecture or two....or open your bible....hope that helps. AM has helped me profit, due to accurate prophecy! I'm really liking the coming silver market, yea I got a decade head start, but not too late!
ronpauleducates 2 years ago
Ever heard of LIARS? It doesn't matter what YOU say, i say, or what (you think) Pastor Murray says. Only the humble, who'll do "their own" homework without listening to YOU, ME or some know-it-all will come to understand the truth if their intentions are true.
Everything you claim he, or any other supposed preacher, should offer up is silly and ALWAYS subject to ones ability to get to the truth.. .in todays world is hard. You need to wake up, its not as simple as you simpletons would think.
blttomato 2 years ago
I am just asking questions that is all
To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 2 years ago
I didn't say a thing about asking questions...please stick to what i was responding to, the topic, and then you can grow faster rather than ignoring the argument... keep digging, at least you're headed in the right direction, which you're aeon's ahead of the rest.
blttomato 2 years ago
Pastor Murray will never write a book called " I was wrong " purhaps you may.
audrey5904 2 years ago
I am wondering do you listen to Pastor Murray? Do you get your Bible out and your strongs concordance and check out verse by verse-word by word. Why spend this time questioning the word of God?Do you pray about your questions?If you have problems of understanding you should take them to the Lord.Why do you feel it to be your duty to question the word of God and a Man whom teaches the word so truthfully?Who's side are you on?Do you believe in God?
audrey5904 2 years ago
If one's personal history, background, or academic pedigree are the qualifications of a spirtual man or teacher, then placing your faith in these things are most certainly going to bring you disappointment. These are fleshy and earthly (falable) attributes. That's NOT where faith is to be placed, i.e., man!
Floormat11 2 years ago
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Christ had no formal teaching; He was poor and His background was unknown. Yet at 12 years old, He preached in the synagogues and amazed the "educated" Priests.
Would you discount Christ because He lacked the education and background you are insisting on? The apostles, as well, were not the type of men that would meet your standards of pedigree. Fortunately, no man's pedigree can ever suffice...lest we be mislead.
Floormat11 2 years ago
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Therefore, how do we know who should teach us? Who do we trust? We are constantly warned that MANY false prophets will come in His name. Should we watch their actions; their "miracles"; their charisma? All these things can be deceptive and misleading.
Matt 7:21-23 did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
So how then, do we discern?
Floormat11 2 years ago
Matt 7:16 "By their fruit you will know them." Fruit? Doesn't that mean good deeds and Christ-like attributes? Not according to Matt 7:21-23!!
There are PLENTY of kind, gently, humble people...Dhali Lama, Popes, Pastors, etc that may "act" Christ-like but can easily mislead. Even Satan himself will perform miracles and signs to mislead.
FRUIT is not the outwardly actions of men. FRUIT is the TRUTH of God. Truth from the Word, verified by the Word.
That's how you'll know.
Floormat11 2 years ago
1 John 4:1-6 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world....This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."
The Spirit of truth is that which is in the heart of a man. Don't confuse the fruit (truth) of the Spirit, with the outwarldy attributes of man. The Spirit is INSIDE the heart...not on the OUTSIDE in the flesh!
Floormat11 2 years ago
@Floormat11 my friend he was THE LORD thats a bad example
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb I have no idea what you are referring to.
Floormat11 1 year ago
@Floormat11 your comment a few up
tonyteb 1 year ago
IN this day and age it is good to know who you are listening too
To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 2 years ago
@BillLykken: You are absolutely RIGHT!! Follow NO man! Murray, too, says this of himself. But too many people deny finding the truth at the expense of their loyalty to their church or pastor.
Are we fallible? You bet!! But I will say this about Murray...he TEACHES verse by verse. He's not a "motivational preacher" that tries to make you feel good, or increase his donations, or to sell his books.
He ruffles alot feathers. But answers lot of questions we all have.
Floormat11 2 years ago 4
@Floormat11 he answers ?really bad the guy is infomus on taking things out of context known fact i listen to him manny times the guy is way off
tonyteb 1 year ago
@Floormat11 most false teachers procaim listen to no man even me common now really
tonyteb 1 year ago
@Floormat11 hes not the only one who teaches ch an vs by vs
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb There are thousands of preachers that have their own style and methods of teaching the Word. I'm less concerned with the method than I am with the MESSAGE. I prefer a person to teach verse by verse. In doing so, the most difficult portions of the bible are discussed. Many churches/pastors dont address the entire bible. They focus on the same regurgitated, topical verses...i.e. tithing, baptism, salvation, rapture, and end times, etc. At least Murray touches on the tough stuff.
Floormat11 1 year ago
@Floormat11 murray is also redudent in all things lead to antichrist kenites and so on he does not touch on thigs of difficulty because he distorts the context to mak a pretext
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb If you have a problem with Murray, then dont watch him. Can you explain the more difficult verses that seem to go undiscussed by the mainstream churches? All I hear from you is criticism of his methods, context, pretext...etc. If YOU have all the answers, then don your sackcloth and sandals, gird your loins, and preach it brother. I am not going to get into a "my pastor is better than your pastor" argument. If you have the solutions, state them!
Floormat11 1 year ago
@Floormat11 because i have a problem with him means i cant watch him ? you should also be critical of his methods. should you not decern ? i dont have all the answers friend im just a laymen. what difficult verses would you like to discuss mayby we can help eachother and please if you like adress the generation that jesus spoke of
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb Of course you are free to watch whom ever you want. Are you as critical of all denominations as you are of Murray? Or is YOUR way the only way, truth, and life? I dont defend Murray on every point he makes--nor do I claim to have all the answers. We aren't born or saved with all the answers! We go from baby food to solid food...we spiritually mature. Sometimes a baby Christian will not see things the same as a mature Christian. Does that make one wrong and the other right?
Floormat11 1 year ago
@Floormat11 also i watch him because a couple of people in my family are decived by him they tell me dont wory ill come to the other side of the gulf to save you
tonyteb 1 year ago
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@Floormat11:RIGHT U R, BROTHER."But I will say this about Murray...he TEACHES verse by verse. He's not a "motivational preacher" that tries to make you feel good, or increase his donations, or to sell his books.He ruffles alot feathers. But answers lot of questions we all have" CHRIST TOO RUFFLED MANY FEATHERS IN HIS DAY & STILL DOES TO THIS DAY!Christ Himself said in KJV Mat 24,Lu 21 =He returns & gathers we @ 777 (LAST Seal,Trump,Vial) AFT "666" or anti-c come 1st claimg 2 b christ come 2 fly
ballistix01 1 year ago
Please take a look at my video Answer 2009
To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 2 years ago
To judge is foolish! If you dont have a standard by which to judge the truth, YOU ARE A FOOL to do so. You're like a leaf in the wind blowing whichever way the winf blows strongest.
A word to the wise brother. Do more homework and less jawwing until you have a clue what you're talking about. ..
You're blessings depend upon it!
blttomato 2 years ago
Christianity has nothing to do about following men. Those who are lead by the holy spirit have the gift of discernment. If one cant discern without judgement they are lacking. Honestly I think its a joke when someone says I have a degree in preaching and so on focuss on the word not individuals
KRU78 2 years ago
It is NOT if A.M. has a degree or not all I am asking is something about his background. I am just asking questions
To Question is to Grow
BillLykken 2 years ago
Finally, we should take more notice as to what is being preached than a person's personal history. NC in IL
Hebrewtranz 2 years ago